Hoffa Before Obama at Detroit Labor Day Rally: 'Let’s Take These Son of a B*tches Out!'
That civility thing which Democrats and the Left thought to be all-important earlier this year is sooooo January. Unless it changes its stripes overnight, the incivility and hostility on display today in Detroit, which hasn't been seen much in establishment press reports to this point, won't appear on the Big 3 Networks' morning shows tomorrow. The American people really need to see what has become of the labor movement, and the type of behavior its head cheerleader in the White House condones.
Before President Obama spoke in the parking lot of a General/Government Motors plant in Detroit this afternoon, Teamsters President James Hoffa Jr. warmed up the crowd, as transcribed below (video at Right Scoop; HT Temple of Mut via Instapundit):
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Hoffa: We've got to keep an eye on the battle that we face, a war on workers. And you see it everywhere. It is the Tea Party. And y'know there's only one way to beat and win that war.
The one thing about working people is, we like a good fight. And you know what? They got a war, they got a war with us, and there's only gonna be one winner, it's going to be the workers of uh Michigan and America! We're gonna win that war!
-- (snip) --
President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong. Thank you very much. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
As of 6:30 p.m., mentions in the establishment press of Hoffa's hostility are light.
Associated Press coverage by Darlene Superville (AP headline, "Obama says GOP must back US first, create jobs"; as carried at the New York Times, "Obama Challenges Congress in Labor Day Speech") doesn't mention Obama's warm-up acts. A search on Hoffa's last name at the AP's main site returns an early-a.m. story with this Sunday quote from Hoffa:
"I think the president should challenge the patriotism of these American corporations that are sitting on the sidelines," Hoffa said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
He added, "We've got to turn this around and say, 'Hey, we are an American company. We owe an obligation to America. Let's put America back to work.'"
The Times has no separate story of its own
The Washington Post's David Nakamura quoted Hoffa, but "somehow" missed the declaration of war:
Obama will need a strong turnout from labor supporters to help him win reelection in 2012, and Teamsters President James P. Hoffa urged the crowd to turn out at the polls in force.
“There is a war on workers and you see it everywhere,” Hoffa said. “You see it in unemployment, you see it in the tea party, in people who fight what we believe in. President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march and, President Obama, we want one thing: jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.”
UPI.com's coverage of the event doesn't mention Hoffa.
In Detroit, a search on Hoffa's last name at Freep.com (the Detroit Free Press) returns nothing relating to the event. A review of the paper's story on Obama's speech has no mention of what Hoffa said. At the Detroit News, Hoffa's name is not in its event story, and a search on Hoffa's last name for event-relevant info returns only a couple of Readers' Forum posts.
There was mention of Hoffa's statement in a CNN wire story (the network cut ties with AP in June 2010). But the story made Hoffa's remarks about Republicans and not the Tea Party:
Before Obama spoke, James Hoffa, president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, blasted congressional Republicans and urged the crowd to mobilize and help defeat the GOP at the polls in 2012.
"Everybody here has a vote," Hoffa said. "Keep the eye on the prize. Let's take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong."
Generalizing Hoffa's remarks to the GOP alone as CNN did may be erroneous, depending on whether he kept his criticism to the Tea Party or moved on to Republicans in between the segments of the video transcribed above. A 2010 poll showed that "The national breakdown of the Tea Party composition is 57 percent Republican, 28 percent Independent and 13 percent Democratic." That's a 40%-plus non-Republican plurality.
At the Los Angeles Times, Christi Parsons did flag Hoffa's comment, but made sure readers knew that Obama couldn't pooooooossibly know what was said:
The assembly also cheered wildly when Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa Jr., during a pre-Obama warm-up act, urged activists to oppose Obama’s critics by taking “these sons of bitches out.” Obama was not present for that comment.
More generally, a Google News search on "Hoffa bitches" (not in quotes) returns 16 items (it appears to be 38, but it's really 16). Only items at an ABC News blog and a CNN blog can be considered American-based "mainstream media" outlets.
In an overseas item at the UK Daily Mail, Toby Harnden headlines a particularly pertinent question: "Will Barack Obama condemn Joe Biden and Jimmy Hoffa for calling Republicans 'barbarians' and 'son of a bitches'?" I'd suggest not staying by the computer waiting for it, because first, someone in the press has to be willing to ask.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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send in the clowns
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:37pm.
The Labor movement was born with the use of goons and thugs swinging clubs and they haven't progressed much beyond that.
Sounds just like
Submitted by Bodini on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:52pm.
the Chicago Marxist Democrat machine, the congressional black caucus, NBC, NYTs, MSNBC et. al.! Peas in a pod?
city of Big Shoulders
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 9:03pm.
In Chicago you have the politicians, the unions and da 'boys'. You mess with one you mess with all.
Reposting this 'shop here
Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:38pm.
since it was this story that was the inspiration.
As I said on another thread- Obama's failure to repudiate this comment is a tacit endorsement. Biden called us barbarians today. Apparently war on the barbarians is the democratic re-election strategy.
And in Cincinnati, VP Biteme said...
Submitted by kch50428 on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:38pm.
“This is a different kind of fight. This is a fight for the heart and soul of the labor movement. This is a fight for the existence of organized labor. You are the only ones who can stop the barbarians at the gate! That’s why they want you so bad. ”
So - if we oppose organized labor, we're barbarians... I get all warm & fuzzy thinking about all the complements I've been paid this weekend... first, I'm a SOB... then a barbarian. How nice of them.
Just read this on Drudge
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:41pm.
These cretins are going to get folks killed. Then this pathetic media will blame us, you watch.
I for one exercise
Submitted by Bodini on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:56pm.
my 2nd amendment rights. The Viet Nam era dope smoking leftists won't stand a chance. "Bible thumpin, gun totin ...!"
These comments are not surprising, at all.
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:47pm.
Not coming from the son of the most corrupt union leader in the history of Michigan, if not the U.S. And, there are signs that things haven't changed much since Jimmy Hoffa took an unscheduled trip to New Jersey.
I wonder why the Central States, Southeast, Southwest Areas Pension Fund of the Teamster's Union was called the "the mob's bank,"?
Even the NYT has noticed the stench associated with the Teamster's Union and their pension funds.
and as this great man understood from experience
Submitted by russedav on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:52pm.
only the Church, not man or the state, has the power to oppose this manifestly diabolical terror, as America's Founders sternly warned us that rejecting God would certainly be fatal. The great Solzhenitsyn experienced this first hand.
Be careful what you wish for, comrade Hoffa...
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:56pm.
...beacause you and your fellow communist goonion members, who are too unitelligent to even qualify as white trash, are just liable to march face-first right into the 2nd Amendment.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Our government can't or won't
Submitted by russedav on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:48pm.
so as our Founders understood and provided for in the Second Amendment, ordinary American citizens are going to have to "keep and bear arms" to take back our country from both subnazi filth like Hoffa and our government. It would be a good suggestion to have a bullet to his brain cure the problem of his kind except that that would be impossible since there would be none to find, as with the vacuum-headed loons in DC.
I am sure that the quote will
Submitted by gopsteve on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:52pm.
I am sure that the quotes will be on all the morning shows and the hosts will be calling for Obama to denounce them...of course we may get a blizzard tomorrow too,,,
Since the collective
Submitted by LighthouseJ on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:52pm.
Since the collective bargaining rights were revoked in Wisconsin set upon a backdrop of a heavily pro-labor president, the pro-union guys have come out of the woodwork. Just today I talked to a member of a teamsters union on the internet. After jogging him through the requisite talking points, I asked him in the history of the unions, just how helpful have the unions actually been to enhance the quality of life for its members. I don't know if he got a call and had to go to rally, but it's a question I ask to union members.
I don't know which I would've been frustrated with more: the other participant not acknowledging the question or more talking points.
I also ask a variation of that question to minorities in democratic city strongholds.
In both cases, I say:
Sure times are hard, but is your union/political party doing anything to help?
Maybe it's time you helped yourself.
Welcome to the Libertarian/Tea Party
"an America where we belong."
Submitted by Dan Diego on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 7:58pm.
Uh, that would be Venezuela, South America with your buddy Hugo, please be more precise when speechifying James.
Based on their anti-jobs
Submitted by ant on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 8:13pm.
Based on their anti-jobs actions and treasonous lending and coddling of foreign labor, Obama and the dems have NO right to talk about American jobs. NONE!
As far as the Union slugs go, I say bring it on. All of ya, ya do a lot of talking and a lot of us are still waitin', so bring it. That goes for the Illegal,LaRaza pr-cks, the Black Panther scum and their Islamic black retard pals, and the pony-tailed socialist 'revolutionaries' too.
I'm getting real tired of being threatened and could use a release of aggravation, so LET"S GO ALREADY.
NYT finally posts something about it.
Submitted by Denny Crane on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 9:12pm.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/09/05/us/politics/AP-US-Teamsters-T...
We Are The 53%
That's the AP item ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 9:40pm.
... which, now that a Tea Party person has called for a rebuke and an apology, is calling the situation a "flap" instead describing Hoffa's statement the "public threat" that it is.
I just saw an article on
Submitted by ant on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 10:35pm.
I just saw an article on gatewaypundit. Apparently, Joe Biden, in a speech to the AFL-CIO, told them they were the only ones 'defending the gates from the barbarians.'. I'll give you one guess as to whom Joe thinks are barbarians.
I'll Be Glad
Submitted by kilrod on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 10:50pm.
"I'll be glad when the shootin starts so we can get it over with"
(grins) kilrod "the Birther"
If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,??
He doesn't sound like the Teamsters I knew growing up.
Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 10:56pm.
My uncle owned a trucking business, and I knew almost all of his drivers (all of whom were Teamsters). They were not the least bit like this Hoffa. They were all very patriotic, very conservative socially and politically and all of them had served their country in one way or another. They were paragons of the American dream--they worked hard, played by the rules and raised respectable families with values of hard work and faith. They were also mostly Latino, but all legal citizens by birth or nationalization. My uncle would not hire illegal aliens, but he was always more than willing to help people gain legal immigration status and then give them a job. He was my mom's brother, and those old-time Argentinians were deadly serious about their commitment to do things the legal way.
By Hoffa's standards, they would be considered out of the mainstream because they would have thought La Raza and MECHA ungrateful and cowardly. If you called them victims, they would have asked "of what?"
The only time they were on strike against my uncle, they quickly signed a new contract and he continued to pay them so they would not fall behind on their bills. That is the kind of guy he was, and they repaid him by working hard and being involved in the community. No blocking his driveway, threatening his children or shouting threats wildly. They never would have sunk so low.
I wonder if Barack the
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 10:56pm.
I wonder if Barack the Destroyer took umbrage with that 'sunnuvabitch' remark..............since he is one. And if Hoffa had called the TEA party a bunch of 'bastards', well.............Barry would have to swallow that one too.
How's that Obama economy working for you, Mr. Hoffa?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 11:09pm.
That 15% unemployment workin' for the Union?
Seems like the Unions would be better served by patriotic capitalists in power rather than the socialists.
Unions, Jews and blacks, useful idiots for the Dems.
Tom. On CNN - ABC blogs, but on their cable news?
Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 09/05/2011 - 11:22pm.
We all know, if this had been a Tea Party honcho saying such -- or what Biden said -- the wall to wall coverage would not be limited to a couple of blog posts - but would be on-air and in the national print media.
Also, I was recalling that AFL-CIO President, Richard Trumka, recently claimed that he talked to the White House ever day, and visited two times per week : Shocking Level of Influence: Trumka Talks to White House EVERY DAY and Visits a Couple Times A Week. Wonder if Hoffa has a similar amount of influence on the Obama White House, and if it's really safe to assume, as the MSM is wanting to proclaim, that Obama wasn't aware of Hoffa's comments? Or Biden's, for that matter?
Good stuff, Tom.
(;~> gary
Of course obama condones this
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 12:10am.
Of course obama condones this ghetto thug behavior in order to provoke violence. The DOJ is just waiting to grab a tea-party memberand charge with domestic terrorism. Without an object of hate obama fails.
LOL
Submitted by afanofcommonsense on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 6:19pm.
THIS IS AMAZING!!!!
First off, kudos to all of the posters here suggesting the whole "kill them first" attitude. Very classy!
To start let me say that what Hoffa said was pretty stupid and uncalled for. He didn't have to stoop to the lows that alot on the right do. I mean really??? How is it that the followers of Coulter, and Beck (just to name a few) all of a sudden are offended by what this dork said? I've been on this site for a good while now, and I've heard WAAAAAAY worse come from some of you all, including some of the comments on this story alone as a good example.
Heres the real kicker though. Hoffas "quote" at the top of this story is missing a very small part. Just a few words were taken out by NB. Hmmmm... oh yeah! He said "everybody here has got a vote" right before he said "lets take these SOB's out." I wonder why a site like NB would leave that out?
I'll leave you all this. "If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot." Take a guess who said that.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr
Nice try, no sale, on both points
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 12:02am.
Rush:
And there isn't.
When he says he's going to "take these son of a bitches out," Hoffa himself is describing it as a kill-or-be-killed situation. The comments here are from people who would rather not die in such a confrontation, and are perfectly understandable -- in that "context."
The facts are not for sale.
Submitted by afanofcommonsense on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 4:00am.
You're gonna have to find a better example for me on that one. You can't seriously expect to take anything that the pill popper has to say right?
As far as points go. You seemed to have missed it totally. My point is that what Mr. Hoffa said was stupid, and not well thought out at all, but it's amazing that anyone on the right would be offended by this. We can go on and on about how one side does it more, but regardless of what side says things like this it's still wrong. Now with that being said, I dont believe that when these idiots say stuff like this that they are trying to get people to start being violent. They just dont realize that there are some unbalanced people out there that might take things the wrong way. It happens on both sides, but the right seems to be caught doing this more often.
With all that being said...you still didn't explain why NB would edit out the "Everybody here's gotta vote" part. If it's no different at all, why would it be left out of the quote? It's not like it's possible that he meant to vote the SOB's out, right?
The comments here are from people who would rather not die in such a confrontation, and are perfectly understandable -- in that "context." - Im sorry to break the news to you, but people mentioning violence on this site does not happen on just this story. I've have had physical threats made towards me on this site, which is hilarious considering it's an online forum.
I'll leave you with a few gems from the right just to make my points a little clearer.
''The greatest threat to America is not necessarily a recession or even another terrorist attack. The greatest threat to America is a liberal media bias.''
—Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), June 4, 2009
''My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.''
—Ann Coulter
''I hope that's not where we're going, but you know if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.''
—Sharron Angle
''He has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity.''
—Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ)
''I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. ... No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out.''
—Glenn Beck
''We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals.''
—Ann Coulter
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr
Yawwwwwn
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 6:38am.
Working backwards:
- Lindh was an enemy combatant and participated in a battle in which an American died. In WWII, he would have been executed, and would have deserved it.
- Beck was being sarcastic in light of things other people have said about him.
- You don't say to whom Franks was referring. I've learned it was Obama, who is as hard-core a supporter of abortion on demand who has ever occupied the White House. Anyone who supports killing 3,000 preborn babies a day can properly described as an enemy of humanity in that realm.
- On Angle, you have read the Second Amendment, right? "... the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"? "Second Amendment remedies" simply means that if order breaks down, it would be a good idea for you and your family to have guns to protect themselves. No one was being threatened.
- Ann Coulter is not a politician or a labor leader like Hoffa, Carson, or Biden, and can defend herself.
- If liberal media bias is worth 8-15 points in a general election, the latter of which Evan Thomas of Newsweek bragged was the right number and which is in the neighborhood of a UCLA prof's estimate of the effect, then John McCain lost to Barack Obama because of liberal media bias. Because of that, the nation's financial situation has gone from serious to nearly critical in 31-1/2 months, and may be heading into another recession. Because of the lax, willfully blind attitude of Obama, Holder, et al, we are "not necessarily" (Smith's term) safer from a terrorist attack. If media bias which led to the election of someone governing against the will of the American people is the underlying reason why these things have happened, then Smith is right. He's entitled to his opinion, and has facts on which to base it.
As to Rush, I excerpted him because I agree with him on this point. Your cry of editing out is a bunch of sour grapes which, as demonstrated, changes nothing.
Go back to Media Matters and find better arguments. Oh, I'm sorry, you won't find any there.
Priceless
Submitted by afanofcommonsense on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 11:16am.
- Yeah so the problem with the Lindh comment is not what he himself did, it's the fact that the hag is suggesting what was done to him should be done to liberals. Basically she's saying if you disagree with her, you should be killed.
- "Beck was being sarcastic" Do you have proof of this? Because if thats the logic then I could say the same about Hoffa. He was just being sarcastic, so what's the big deal? A bit of a double standard there.
- The Franks comment is about perception. Again, it goes back to the whole "you should die because of your beliefs" syndrome that I guess is only acceptable if the person is in line with what you follow.
- On Angle, good god you're reaching! "The First thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out." Nowhere in that statement is it indicated that she's talking about protecting your family. She's basically saying that if congress doesn't start doing what the right likes, they should use guns to get what they want. Dispicable!
- Coulter, whether you like it or not is a political leader. Let me assure you that being a liberal and knowing plenty more of them...Hoffa isn't even on the radar. Nobody really knew or cared about the clown until he decided to offend the delicate hypocritical ears of the right. I would bet alot more people know, and follow Coulter.
- You're last little remark really isn't even worth a response. That's a bigger reach than you're Angle comment. So I guess you think the same about Bush? I mean he did start all of the economic downfall, which also includes two poorly planned wars that have actually killed thousands, and cost billions. I wonder where our economy would be if we didnt have those two massive money losing wars that are STILL going today.
- Finally, you say I "cry" of editing, but it's right there! You can't deny that it was edited because the proof is right there! It only changes nothing for you and the pill popper because you all are biased. I ask again, WHY WAS IT EDITED OUT? I'm on vacation so I'll be checking back to see if anyone can actually answer that.
On a quick note, you left out the Smith comment. No excuse for that one huh? You also failed to address the violent rhetoric that pops up on this site daily. Pretty much what I'm what getting from you is that the right has the right to their opinion and freedom of speech, but the left doesn't. And as far as a better argument goes, I haven't found one here neither.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr
Yawwwwwwwwwn
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 3:01pm.
You weren't even bright enough to be able to tell that my last item about liberal media bias was in response to your quote of Smith.
You really are a waste of time.
FWIW, if Coulter wrote something like that again, I'd blog my opposition to it at my home blog -- an option that wasn't available when she wrote what she did in the 1990s.
Otherwise, my points stand. Yours don't.
Buh-bye.
Go to sleep then, Facts will wait for you.
Submitted by afanofcommonsense on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 5:10pm.
No sir actually what I'm saying is that your last item made no sense. Let me see if I got this right. The media doesn't report what you'd like, so they should be treated like terrorist? You gave reason for what he meant but you left out real "facts" about why he felt that way. Which is why I made the response about Bush and his pointless wars. You responded with something having nothing to do with the topic at hand. With that being said you also forgot to respond to few more items on my last response.
As far as Coulter goes...what about the Edwards comment? Im sure that wasn't in the 90's. As for your points they're not even in the room. Mine on the otherhand aren't even points. They're FACTS! Like I said before, both sides are guilty and the sooner we realize how toxic it is, the sooner we'll be a better country.
"You will find liberals always rooting for savages against civilization." –Ann Coulter 2010
"I don't really like to think of it as a murder." 2009
"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee."
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr
Mr. Blumer, afanofcommonsense,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 5:32pm.
formally, and politely, eviscerated your most liberally biased BS.
He did so using facts and logic.
The best part?
His replies contain a great deal of common sense, which, username aside, I have yet to see you display.
Your username should be "afanofcommonsense - but-not-a-user-of-same".
MD
moron
Submitted by Denny Crane on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 8:31pm.
Talk about out of context.
"I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. ... No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, 'Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore,' and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, 'Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death.' And you know, well, I'm not sure." –responding to the question "What would people do for $50 million?", "The Glenn Beck Program," May 17, 2005
"I don't really like to think of it as a murder. It was terminating Tiller in the 203rd trimester. ... I am personally opposed to shooting abortionists, but I don't want to impose my moral values on others." --on the murder of Kansas abortion doctor George Tiller, FOX News interview, June 22, 2009
From the AP
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Conservative commentator Ann Coulter, speaking at a traditionally black college, joked that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned.
Coulter had told the Philander Smith College audience Thursday that more conservative justices were needed on the Supreme Court to change the current law on abortion. Stevens is one of the court's most liberal members.
"We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee," Coulter said. "That's just a joke, for you in the media."
As far as editing the vote part out, that was done by Fox News when they originally reported it. They shortened the clip. Should they left it in? Maybe, but they didn't. Why? Idjits like you and Mediamatters will speculate, but unless the editors at Fox say why, we will never truly know. Everybody else has just been using their exerts.
We Are The 53%
Yawwwwwwwwwn
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 10:37pm.
... I think I hear someone generating a lot of sound and fury signifying absolutely nothing.
Hoffa's words were inexcusable on so many levels...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 11:24pm.
They were crude, divisive and inflammatory. They utilized violent, martial terminology and threatening, mobster-like slang.. They were perversely ironic especially in the aftermath of Obama's very public appeals for civility in recent months. They were just plain stupid.
But as an actual, unequivocal exhortation to start mowing down Tea Partiers...well that's quite a stretch. And the comment about urging members to vote should definitely have been included. If FOX was the culprit, it was an irresponsible omission by the network.
By the way, I'm not sure of the exact date Coulter uttered the repellent remark about McVeigh and the NYT, but it didn't appear in print until 2002. And she doubled down on it later.
Jer
On Coulter ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 11:47pm.
... that was three years before I started blogging. She must have written it shortly before/after McVeigh's execution. I thought it was not that long after the OKC bombing.
afanofcommonsense,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 10:19pm.
putting his own spin on Hoffa's words and how they were "edited".
Has not changed a bit since his last round of posts. Still an arsemuncher.
Still a phony, lying liberal who tells BS tales and then just can't understand why anyone would call him anything less than a fine, upstanding human being.
Check out afanofcommonsense's bio to see how it is he lies first crack out of the barrel and then can't conceive of not being appreciated for his intellect.
Putz.
MD
Afan surely does fit his tag line, though.
Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 09/07/2011 - 11:50am.
He should walk around with a sandwich board, saying "sincere ignorance" on the front, and "conscientious stupidity" on the back.
But, he certainly does have the "gift" of being able to discern what people are thinking, and what they "mean" when they speak. But, only people that he disagrees with.
Hoffa, taken in context, said "If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these sons of a bitches out". So what's the prize? And how to accomplish it? Here it is.
Liberal Hate Speech
Submitted by RealVet on Thu, 09/08/2011 - 8:48am.
A Short History (incomplete) of Liberal Hatred:
"why, why, why couldn't it have been Glenn Beck" (who died from a bullet wound to the head after the Pentagon shooting). - Bill Maher
"You know, do I hope that those people die screaming of rectal cancer? Yeah" - Sean Penn on his critics
"So, this is Daughter of Dracula?" - Chris Matthews referring to Liz cheney
Michael Moore says of Americans that "They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet ... in thrall to conniving, thieving, smug pricks,"
Alec Baldwin wanted Henry Hyde, his family, and his dog stoned to death.
Bill Maher expressed regret that the assassination attempt on VP Cheney failed.
Democratic Senator Al Franken of Minnesota peddled a book entitled Rush Limbaugh is a Big, Fat, Stupid Idiot, viciously ridiculing a person struggling with obesity and deafness.
In 2007, White House Press Secretary Tony Snow announced his cancer had returned. Commentators on the left-wing Daily Kos website remarked, "the world would be better off without him".
Liberal talk radio host Mike Malloy lashed out at conservative commentator Glenn Beck, a recovering alcoholic, told his radio audience "I have good news to report. Glenn Beck appears closer to suicide. I'm hoping that he does it on camera....given his alcoholism and his tendencies towards self-destruction, I am only hoping that when Glenn Beck does put a gun to his head and pulls the trigger, that it’s on television, because somebody will capture it on YouTube and it will be the most popular little piece of video for months."
Bernadine Dohrn - revolutionary Advice - “Bring the revolution home, kill your parents. That’s where it’s at.” Source: You Dont Need a Weatherman to Know Which Candidate Blows, Human Events, April 28, 2008.
William Ayers - “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.”
The Reverend Jeremiah Wright - “The U.S. government gives black Americans the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no. God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.
Joan Rivers - “He [Mel Gibson] is an anti-Semitic son of a bitch. He should f*cking die"
Oliver Stone - “I think America has to bleed. I think the corpses have to pile up. I think American boys have to die again. Let the mothers weep and mourn.”
PBS's ultra-left-wing Nina Totenberg: "If there is retributive justice, Sen. Jesse Helms will get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
Totenberg quote # 2 - (during the flap over General Jerry Boykin's views of Islam and the war on terrorism), 'I hope he's not long for this world.'
USA Today's Julianne Malveaux (on Clarence Thomas) - "I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease."
Mike Malloy: "...you rat bastards are going to cause another Murrah federal building explosion, you are. And then - what is Beck - maybe at that point Beck will do the honorable thing and blow his brains out." Maybe at that point, Limbaugh will do the honorable thing and just gobble up enough - enough Viagra that he becomes absolutely rigid and keels over dead. Maybe then O'Reilly will just drink a vat of the poison he spews out on America every night and choke to death! Because that's what's gonna to happen, that's what they are pushing these right-wing, nut case, fringe, militia jerk-wads to doing!"
Wanda Sykes hoped Rush Limbaugh's kidneys will fail.
There's much more, but you get the drift ...