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Harry's 'Bush Lost 8 Million Jobs' Howler, Nailed by PolitiFact, Otherwise Gets Virtual Silent Treatment

By Tom Blumer | August 07, 2011 | 17:47

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On August 2 on the Senate floor, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid claimed that the economy under George W. Bush lost eight million jobs.

PolitiFact, which occasionally seems to engage in verbal gymnastics to give Democrats and leftists the benefit of the doubt, was more than a little annoyed with Reid's claim, giving it a rating of "Pants on Fire." As will be demonstrated later, virtually no one else in the press has deemed Harry's howler newsworthy.

Here are excerpts from PolitiFact's pommeling (HT Doug Powers at Michelle Malkin's place, where the preferred evaluation is "Liar, liar, pomegranates on fire"):

During a Senate floor speech on Aug. 2, 2011 -- shortly before a vote on the final debt-ceiling bill -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., compared the job-creation records of President Bill Clinton and President George W. Bush.

"My friend (Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.) talks about no new taxes," Reid said. "Mr. President, if their theory was right, with these huge (tax cuts) that took place during the Bush eight years, the economy should be thriving. These tax cuts have not helped the economy. The loss of eight million jobs during the Bush eight years, two wars started, unfunded, all on borrowed money, these tax cuts all on borrowed money -- if the tax cuts were so good, the economy should be thriving. If we go back to the prior eight years during President Clinton’s administration, 23 million new jobs were created."

... During Bush’s eight years in office -- January 2001 to January 2009 -- the nation actually gained a net 1.09 million jobs. ...

... This isn’t remotely close to what Reid claimed.

... From the economy’s peak to its low point, the nation lost 8.75 million jobs. Here’s the problem: The peak for jobs came in January 2008, while the low point for jobs came in February 2010.

This means the starting point for Reid’s measure came seven years into Bush’s eight-year tenure, and the low point occurred about a year into Barack Obama’s tenure.

In other words, Reid had a point in saying that there was a "loss of eight million jobs" -- but it didn’t come "during the Bush eight years." The loss of eight million jobs occurred during a roughly two-year period shared more or less equally between Bush and Obama.

Reid may blame Bush’s policies for every single one of those jobs lost -- an opinion he’s entitled to, but one we are unable to fact-check. Still, his statement is incorrect as spoken.

... Reid specifically counted Clinton’s job-creation numbers from his inauguration day to the date he exited from office, but he did not do so for Bush, even though he used the Clinton figure as a direct comparison. It strikes us as a clear-cut case of cherry-picking.

... he uses one method that makes Clinton’s number seem strong and Bush’s number seem weak. We rate Reid’s statement Pants on Fire.

It will surprise no one that a search at the Associated Press on "Reid Bush" (not in quotes) returns no relevant results. The result is the same in a search at the New York Times. A search at the Washington Post on "Reid Bush million jobs" (not in quotes) returned nothing relevant. A "Reid Bush" (not in quotes) at the Los Angeles Times returns nothing relevant. A necessarily tighter search at Google News (go there to see the paramters) returned 26 items (the first results page says "about 200," but it's really only 26), only a few of which mention Reid's remark, and none of which would be considered establishment press outlets.

For the record, from the time Bush got investment-related and across-the-board tax cuts he wanted (June 2003) until the end of 2006, when Republicans lost control of Congress, the economy added 7.05 million seasonally adjusted jobs. From that point on, any job gains (1.09 million in 2007) and losses (4.42 million in the 13 months ended January 2009) are at a minimum the mutual property of Bush, then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Reid. I would argue, and have since I recognized it three years ago, that most of the losses beginning in June 2008 (3.86 million in the eight months ended January 2009) were the result of the Obama campaign's perceived likely win combined with its promises to steeply tax higher-earning Americans, impose draconian environmental controls, and impose statist health care. Investors, entrepreneurs and businesspeople began running for cover, stopped hiring, cut costs where they could, and shelved expansion plans.

You can bet that if a Republican or conservative Senate Majority Leader was off by 9 million jobs in a statement on the Senate floor, claiming an loss of eight million instead of a pickup of one million in characterizing a Democratic administration's economic performance, there would be more than a modest amount of interest in relaying this obviously correct statement. In the case of Reid, the error is so egregious and obvious that it's worth asking if it was a deliberate lie. PolitiFact should have considered formally adding "Liar, Liar" before its evaluation of "Pants on Fire."

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

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I would like to see a Congressional ethics law

Submitted by TheHistorian on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 6:07pm.

I would like to see a Congressional ethics law that fines a Congressperson something in the size of $15,000 for every non-factual statement that they make from the floor. I think it might actually shut up a bunch of the lying that takes place there. Put it in the hands of the Congressional Budget Office who investigates when requested by any member of the body or a member of the public.

Would also like to see it for the President, but then President Obama would have absolutely nothing to say.

“Liberals tend to put the onus of your success on society and conservatives on you and your family.”

Dennis Prager

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Newt Gingrich Beat Over 80 False Ethics Complaints

Submitted by Avitar on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 6:42pm.

Last I heard Newt Gingrich is still trying to collect on the judgments he won for the phone hacking that the NYT and Atlanta Journal published. The papers' source is still in congress and Gingrich has been out over ten years. I do not even know if he ever got the three hundred thousand dollars back that they fined him based on false accusations.

When the judges are the most corrupt element in the system ethics laws don't work.

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Don't forget the press

Submitted by kg on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 6:11pm.

Don't forget the press reported Clinton greatly improved the economy just a few days after he was sworn in.

 

"DumbAssity of Dope"

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The Weasel is a pathetic

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 6:21pm.

The Weasel is a pathetic excuse for a human being. He is almost as much of a liar as Barama...........except that he has to work at it. In Barama's case, his whole life IS a lie............so it comes naturally to him.

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"Congress" Hits All Time Low - Democrats

Submitted by Avitar on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 6:27pm.

We are now seeing the talking points turning to "Republicans are evil."
They are using a lesser known technique similar to hypnosis. Eventually the twenty percent of the adult population that is susceptible to the technique will begin mouthing the same thing never having thought about it.

Most insidious is that Children are much more susceptible to this technique with over 80% succumbing to it when applied over time. The children loose history and their heritage.

Work done for the advertising industry at Princeton University claimed that without contradiction an opinion induced in 10% of the population will spread to 80% of the population.

I think not calling these people liars and being polite maybe suicide.

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Wow! Really Harry? Are you

Submitted by rbosque on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 6:28pm.

Wow! Really Harry? Are you THAT concerned with jobs? Why isn't your boss? What a load of crap! How many did Obama REALLY lose?

"It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool enough of them to rule a large country"......Will Durant
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wonder

Submitted by grammajane on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 7:03pm.

Wonder if dingy will hire someone to tend to his roses and pompom trees while he is busy lying and crying on the floor of the Senate? It would help the unemployment in NV where it is the worst possible, plus home foreclosers.

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Harry Reid. . .

Submitted by rickbren on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 9:34pm.

. . .purports to be a Christian. I have never seen one lie so vociferously. . .

Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment.
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Rush said it right

Submitted by Robersire on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 9:35pm.

Rush Limbaugh got it right when he stated that all that is all Liberal Democrats lie.
An unnamed source said that Obama plans on confiscating the Union pensions after he wins in 2012. At least we have one thing to get excited about if the B.O. wins.

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A very imformative post Tom. I also appreciate your caveat on

Submitted by Rush Fan on Mon, 08/08/2011 - 2:03am.

PolitiFact, a project that I consider as left leaning as it's parent, the St. Petersburg Times. When an organization, such as PolitiFact, supports man-made Climate Change, it warrants distrusts.

I wish others at NewsBusters, who use PolitiFact as a source, would also add a similar caveat.

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