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Science-Challenged AP: Northeast 'Temps Near (and Above!) Boiling Point'

By Tom Blumer | July 25, 2011 | 14:55

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You can't make this up.

You might excuse the Associated Press for engaging in a bit of hyperbole in a Friday item headlined "Northeast braces for temps near boiling point." After all, it has been miserably hot in many parts of the country, including here in Greater Cincinnati.

But, as readers will see after the jump, the unbylined AP item's writer clearly doesn't understand the point at which water boils. Brace yourself (light-blue "highlighting" is mine; HT to an NB tipster):

APonHeatBoilingPoint072511

Somehow, this over 100 degrees erroneous item has survived without removal or correction for three days.

No wonder the press is so frightened of the bogus scare known as global warming (or, a I prefer to refer to it, "globaloney"). They're afraid that if the temps go up just a couple of degrees, all the water on the earth will take flight into the atmosphere.

The self-described "Essential Global News Network" is in the best of hands. (/sarc).

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

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You have to excuse him.

Submitted by phryingphish on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:05pm.

He's a liberal shill after all.

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C-F

Submitted by Tjexcite on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:12pm.

Someone who is use to Celsius sees 100 and it did not click that it was in Fahrenheit as 100 C is boiling point. And a memo to blame AGW every time one reports the weather why not hype and not do a fact check to see that is was not Celsius. That what happens when you have an agenda to push and not just a job to report facts

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Well, 98 IS close to 100, you

Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:12pm.

Well, 98 IS close to 100, you know!

The fact that  the first  is Farenheit and the other is the boiling point in Celsius is irrelevant.

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The “Celsius” thing!

Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:43pm.

I understand the confusion - and agree a simple check as to which measurement standard was used was definitely in order…

BUT (sarcasm follows) the plain fact is the Euro-commie weenies who have sought to undermine our basic system of government, national identity, and moral principles have gone too far when they attack and deliberately misuse our beloved Fahrenheit System.

These same anarchists who demand absolute obedience to the “Metric System” and have tried to replace the “Before Christ (B.C.) / Anno Domini (A.D.) with “Before Common Era” BCE / “After Common Era” (ACE), must be stopped!

What’s next for these minions of Satan? A full scale attack on the “Dewey Decimal System????” Have they no shame?

I, for one, will never again buy a car with a speedometer calculated in kilometers per hour!!! - Take that all you Twisted, Freak-a-zoid, Pinko, Anti-American slime!!!! (end sarcasm)

- Grump :o)

Edit: Big Ooops! Apologies MB, meant that to be an original comment but foolishly made it a reply to you. please accept my mea culpa.

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Wow

Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:19pm.

Now how in the hell(and I mean hot as hell) did we ever survive the other times that we've had temperatures of 100 degrees for several days many many years past?  I remember one day at the end of August where we had reached 112 degrees.  Not the heat index, the actual temperature was 112 degrees Fahrenheit at 4pm before things started to cool down from there.

This was in South Central Texas.

It gets that hot on a regular basis in the summer time in Vegas and Phoenix!

Buncha Chicken Littles......

-Jon

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Yep. Hot and with all the

Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:25pm.

Yep. Hot and with all the a/c's cranking and fountains spouting here in LV, it can get pretty humid at times too!!!

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Don't I know it...

Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 4:03pm.

I've been to Vegas three times, twice in the summertime, once in the fall.  It was quite pleasant but warm in the fall of 2004 when I was there last.  First time in 1997, 110 was average high, didn't drink enough water, broke out in nose bleeds.  Learned my lesson there!

And I've heard that if there were some rain storms, they hit hard and fast enough to cause a little flash flooding.  Haven't seen it myself though except when it got reported on the weather channel.

-Jon

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We moved here in '93. That

Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 5:19pm.

We moved here in '93. That first summer was a shock - going outside was like walking into an oven going full blast. Then the flash flooding - because it rarely rains, the ground can't absorb it fast enough, and we'd end up with water rescues because people would get caught in the Charleston underpass.

They fixed it:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2001/oct/23/charleston-underpass-floodin...

Back in the 90's, I was a few blocks away, stuck at the VA until dark and it had already begun raining. I knew better than to brave the underpass so I turned off Charleston and got hopelessly lost until I finally made it to the strip and got my bearings. Terrifying!!!

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Have the same thing happen here in San Antonio.

Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:07pm.

We get a heavy rainstorm that blows through and floods the streets. You always have the idiots who believe they can plow through four feet of water in some low-clearance vehicle and they end up requiring rescue. The little burg we live in outside of the San Antonio city limits has an ordinance on the books requiring rescued people to pay for the cost of the services. The moaning and gnashing of teeth was bad enough, but then the mayor's daughter decided her Honda Civic could make it through about a yard of water and she ended up crying on the hood of her car. The mayor suddenly became convinced the ordinance was a bad idea. The city council disagreed with him and he paid the costs after pitching a fit. At the next election, he was quickly promoted to "mayor emeritus".

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Nice!

Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 9:32am.

I like the sound of "Barack Obama, TOTUS Emeritus".

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LOL Charleston Underpass!

Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 9:00am.

I lived in the Mohave valley in the late 80s. We'd go to Vegas every so often, and one time during a tremendous storm, we encountered the underpass standstill. Over 6 feet deep it was. We ended up going by way of nearly-flooded Rodeo (I think that's what it was called) out to Meadows Mall.

It's Vegas, so I guess they gambled against the impact of the rain.

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I forget the clearance 15' or

Submitted by amyshulk on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 9:23am.

I forget the clearance 15' or 18' maybe? But one year the flooding hit it - that year parts of Boulder were washed away too.

When I was stationed in Portsmouth Va. I had to drive through tunnels {hated it!} so the underpass was really nothing, but I'd avoid it all the same!

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Data Source

Submitted by Anneke9 on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:30pm.

Someone glanced at the first sentence in the Answers.com entry and didn't really read it.

So much for sourcing your data by the MSM.

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AP To Adopt Kelvin Temperature Scale.

Submitted by Avitar on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:44pm.

100°F is 310°K boiling point is 212°F or 373.15°K.
So compared to absolute zero last week's temperatures were 83% is of the boiling point. The AP just did not state the scales they were using.

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AP=Anus Penetration

Submitted by russedav on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:50pm.

AP=Anus Penetration

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at least it is just false info...

Submitted by OuttaMyWay on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 3:54pm.

unlike when nasa converted used feet and meters interchangeably. (expense rocket into surface of mars.)

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are you for real?

Submitted by SLUGGO on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 4:29pm.

every time I said I was freezing, a december football game in new england, waiting for the school bus in sub zero temperatures......it was apparent it was a lie. I never actually froze.

I'll be careful not to use such reckless figures of speech in the future.

Sluggo

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When you can show me actual temps "above" 212 degrees

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 5:50pm.

... or even 200, get back to me, okay?

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didn't mean to get your blood boiling, tom

Submitted by SLUGGO on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 5:57pm.

oops, I did it again. ☺

Sluggo

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Dead Ted Returns

Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 9:34am.

Wait until SoL reads that.

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I agree with Tom

Submitted by Molecule on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 5:31pm.

The use of that phrase here is asinine. I understand it to be "just an expression," but not when they specifically say "near and above." They are referring to the actual boiling point temperature. No one says, "Man, I'm at or above freezing out here!" Ok, if they're referring to the 100 Celcius boiling point, they why state the temperatures in Fahrenheit? If you state in Celcius, they're about 40, right? Still no where near some kind of "boiling point." Are they trying to be witty like "boiling point" referring to someone's temper? It's just stupid.

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C'mon Tom

Submitted by stratman on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 5:44pm.

The writer of the Absolutely Pathetic article was obviously taking into account the Heat Index, urban heat island effect, SPF for the UV index and ozone conditions, wind speed, altitude, proximity to carbon expelling methane-producing cows, usage of planet killing incandescent light bulbs in the vicinity,solar flares, a butterfly's wings flapping in China, and, critically, use of a weather station located next to the vent of steel mill blast furnace.

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I see AP has its top GLOBAL

Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 5:54pm.

I see AP has its top GLOBAL WARMING CORRESPONDENT on this.

Explains a lot.


All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
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At least this made good fodder

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:22pm.

for some funny comments:

"at least they spelled 'weather' correctly"

"thank God for the cooling centers"

and, my personal favorite:

"it's not the heat, it's the stupidity"

Jer

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Since we're all 'metricized' up here...

Submitted by DumbCanuck on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:42pm.

You know... max speed on the highway is 100, etc...

The author of the AP article must have been a "DumbCanuck"

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metricized?

Submitted by mandrake on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:48pm.

Ok, quick..how tall are you? Don't think, just write it the way you would say it.

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6'

Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 8:52pm.

4"

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"...all the water on the

Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 7:11pm.

"...all the water on the earth will take flight into the atmosphere."

And even if it did, most of it would come right back down in the form of rain, as the atmosphere can only absorb so much moisture.

-Dave

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Boiling Point, the sequel

Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 8:41pm.

Well, 100 degrees Fahrenheit is above the boiling point, of Naphtha.

There is a bright side: in about 6 billions year the entire planet will be above the boiling point, of iron!

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Jer

Submitted by phryingphish on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 8:51pm.

Jer you finally quoted something I agree with, "It's not the heat, it's the stupidity!"
Priceless!

As far as the C vrs F statements. I'm sorry, it would take an absolute moron to think that temperatures on earth, today, could ever get near (or above) the boiling point of water. Someone asked to be called when a temperature of 200F was recorded, I settle for 140F. (hottest temp ever recorded was 136F) That's not counting geothermal temperatures of course.

The original story is now four days old, any sign of a correction?

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I am beaming with pride, phryingphish...

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:03pm.

I've tried so long and so hard. Last night Chris Norman agreed with me about a movie, and now THIS! Only 3000 more members to go. ;-)

Seriously, are times so hard that there are few editors left at AP? Fact-checkers? Proof readers? An oz. of common sense?

This was just dumbassity on stilts.

Jer

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I have seen people reaching 100 degrees Celsius.

Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:16pm.

My wife hit that point when our youngest daughter's first cell phone bill hit $600 for text messages. You never want to be around when an Uruguayan lady takes after her errant daughter about a matter of spending too much money. Duck and run for cover.

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Doc Sam

Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:23pm.

Can you persuade your wife to run for Congress? She sounds like the type of person we need to get this budget under control.

;-)

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Heat at the boiling point - oh my. . .

Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 9:23pm.

My favorite comment at the AP site that Tom is posting about, came from a gentleman named John:

  • So the writer is not too bright. Good thing we do not depend on these guys for our news.  Oh, wait...

Indeed, John - you are invited over to NewsBusters.

(;~> gary

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Oh, I missed that ...

Submitted by Tom Blumer on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:45pm.

... That's funny.

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AP learned the metric system from the McKenzie brothers

Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:00pm.

But Bob and Doug were funnier -- and smarter.

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The AP *could* be right

Submitted by Brau on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:36pm.

The folks at the AP are well known to have their heads in a vacuum, and we all know water boils at lower temperatures in such conditions.

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The AP writer may have accidentally stumbled onto science......

Submitted by big.league.slider on Tue, 07/26/2011 - 1:55am.

This dolt from the AP may have some science to back up his claims, whether he knows it or not. While the actual liquid that the writer was comparing the boiling point of was not specified, even if it was water, it could actually boil at 100degF if the vapor pressure were low enough. Ironically, it's these scientifically -challenged leftists that see themselves as being intellectually superior to what they perceive as the typical slack-jawed, hayseed conservative.

As Reagan once said, "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so."  Reagan was far too kind in his assessment of liberals.

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