AP's Full Description of Herman Cain as Godfather's CEO: 'Rescued by Shuttering Hundreds of Restaurants'
In their coverage of Herman Cain's official announcement that he is a candidate for the Republican nomination for President of the United States, Associated Press reporters Shannon McCaffrey and Greg Bluestein limited their description of Cain's tenure as chief executive of Godfather's Pizza to the following:
He worked at Coca-Cola, Pillsbury and Burger King before taking the helm of the failing Godfather's Pizza franchise, which he rescued by shuttering hundreds of restaurants.
That's all he did, eh? Guys, if that's all you could cobble together about Cain's time at Godfather's, you should have ended the excerpted sentence after "franchise" (for which a better word would have been "chain").
The AP pair also omitted a couple of key elements of Cain's resume, specifically his tenure as head of the National Restaurant Association and his involvement as a director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, where he ultimately was elected chairman.
Here is a description of Cain's tenure at Godfather's found at a site called PizzaDominoes.com:
... in 1986, several franchises of Godfathers Pizza plummeted. And the pizza chain struggled to beat its competitors. So, Pillsbury selected Herman Cain to be the new president of Godfather’s. Cain had previously rescued some Burger King chains from bankruptcy; thereby earning him a remarkable reputation. And with his leading abilities, he managed to settle some lawsuits, eliminated non-profitable units, introduced more products, and arranged for delivery services. As a result, the pizza chain gradually went back to its feet. Plus, newer pizzas attracted more customers. The mouthwatering bacon cheeseburger pizza and fruit-filled cherry and apple dessert pizzas were introduced.
Moreover, Godfather’s Pizza focused on a one-number delivery system to compete with other pizza chains’ home delivery systems. Fortunately, this system had worked and Godfather’s eventually expanded. Furthermore, several humorous commercials were aired. This was the pizza chain’s attempt to increase public awareness of its products and add a fun concept. Godfathers Pizza also introduced products to pubic schools. It developed fun games that were related to pizzas. So, teachers used these games to encourage young students to master mathematical basics. And the students who performed well were given rewards.
So you see, Ms. McCaffrey and Mr. Bluestein, Cain's success at Godfather's wasn't just about shutting down restaurants and (wink, wink) sending people to the unemployment line. It was about growth and innovation.
Here's what Cain's web site says about his Godfather's experience and the two significant resume items the AP reporters ignored, plus the 1994 encounter with Bill Clinton that first brought him to the nation's attention (and which the AP did mention):
I could have been content with my executive role with one of America’s biggest corporations. Instead, after consulting with my wife, we decided to take one of the biggest risks of our marriage: picking up our young family, relocating yet again and accepting the call to become CEO and President of Godfather’s Pizza, a company teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.
In 14 months, we turned the company around and returned it to profitability, and I ultimately led my management team to a buyout of Godfather’s Pizza. The company never went bankrupt, and today, there are still hundreds of locations across the U.S.
My success at turning around Godfather’s got the attention of fellow restaurateurs around the nation who invited me to join the Board of Directors of the National Restaurant Association and later elected me its chairman. In 1996, they retained me as the full-time President and the CEO of the National Restaurant Association, working on behalf of thousands of small businesses and entrepreneurs.
... In 1994, as chairman of the National Restaurant Association, I had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, I challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed.
President Clinton attempted to assure me and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.
I was skeptical. “Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect,” I said. “In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesn’t work that way.”
Through these and other appearances on behalf of the National Restaurant Association, I began working with business leaders across all sectors of the American economy. This led to my acceptance of a position on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and I was subsequently elected their chairman.
Cain's official announcement speech is at his campaign's home page.
Back in January, the Politico's Ben Smith characterized Cain's candidacy as "quixotic." In the same item, here's how he described the Godfather's chain: "Godfather's still exists, mostly attached to convenience stores." Uh, Ben, the chain has 620 stores, and "still exists" as the eighth-largest in the country (as of 2009). Though there aren't any Godfather's locations in Ohio, where yours truly resides, I tend to doubt that most of the chain's locations are "attached to convenience stores." And even if they are, being Number 8 hardly qualifies as "still exists."
One gets the sense that Smith's description of Herman Cain's prospects is as inaccurate as his breezy putdown of Cain's former company.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
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Ahhhhhhhhhh.............it'
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 12:27am.
Ahhhhhhhhhh.............it' starts!!! Very predictable stuff. Oh............hasn't Boy Blunder 'shuttered' all kinds of jobs and businesses and wealth and prosperity in the last two and a half years?? And he's 'black' too, right??? Well, actually.......................no. But Cain is, so the MSM is going to have to go around the mulberry bush to lay him to waste, and they WILL get to the 'race' issue at some point.
"Racist with a black face"
Submitted by Dave81 on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 9:08am.
It wasn't from AP, but someone's already thrown the card down:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2011/05/11/al-sharpton-show-gues...
True to form
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 12:33am.
I knew it! I knew this was going to be the way the media would attack Cain. They would focus on anything he did in business that might have led to employee layoffs. Now, the next step is to bring in disgruntled ex-employees tearfully describing the "personal effects" of the "callous" business decisions that Cain made. I anticipate the ginned up "issues" of "the underpayment of workers and the ol' "no pay for overtime" angle attempted. They will also seek out and find "undocumented workers" that Cain "exploited" at Godfathers. This was a given once a businessman ran for president. By the time they are through, he will be described as Ebenezer Scrooge. This media is so predictable because they are so consistent in their practices.
If Cain DID shutter hundreds
Submitted by Van Halen on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 12:56am.
If Cain DID shutter hundreds of restaurants, then all the more reason to vote for him. Because it's the exact opposite of what Barack Obama is doing today. Cain saw waste and low performance and then removed it. Barack Obama sees waste and low performance and rewards it. Which is why Godfather's Pizza is still around and our entire nation is taking a nosedive.
Why, you heartless
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:03am.
Why, you heartless conservative. :)
Yeah................and look
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:06am.
Yeah................and look out for playing the 'big evil corporation' card too, since they are on the 'enemies' list - that is, unless they are Boy Barry supporters.
More fodder for the MSM
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:20am.
Also look for Italian-Americans "offended" by the name of the company.
Cain's success at Godfather's is metaphor for . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:05am.
. . . what's needed in the Federal government.
A Chief Executive Officer must harmonize the operations of an organization with its finances, always reviewing the organization's processes to assess efficiencies and product, studying income and costs, and taking an active role in making improvements. Often the best choice is to reduce or even shut down unprofitable ventures in order to improve others. It would appear that this is Cain's talent and legacy.
The problem we have in this country is that the Chief Executive -- the President -- never does this regardless of what campaign promises were made. That's because, unlike a business enterprise, the President is never held accountable to balance the budget -- we merely expand the national debt.
And in the case of those like Obama, instead of fixing broken government, they compound the inefficiencies by piling on more responsibilities. Success isn't measured in how much more efficient government is made, but in what additional services government provides.
I doubt that Cain will get the GOP nomination, but perhaps he can change the debate in the way that Perot got Clinton and Bush-41 to address the economy in 1992. Of course, changing the debate doesn't guarantee results. But it's a start.
It's easy to see.......
Submitted by Herbster on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:23am.
It's easy to see what's afoot here at the AP. This is racism, pure and simple as practiced by these despicable duo of obama enablers masquerading as "Journalists." What they are really saying is, "Herman Cain is black, but not OUR kind of black." Whu nat? Easy. Herman Cain WORKED for what he accomplished, business turnaround expert, CEO, President of the National Restaurant Association, Chairman of the Board of the Kansas City Fed, etc. No, this is not THEIR kind of black - THEIR kind is a Communistic, white hating, country hating anti-semite who has surrounded himself with people of like beliefs. A man with ZERO experience except for "Community Organizing" (Read: Adjitator). A man with a very questionable background from birth to today. A man that "The media," which today is made up of lightweight guilt ridden leftists. No, Herman Cain is NOT their kind of man, but an incompetent clown is who they will follow. I rest my case.
HERMAN CAIN FOR PRESIDENT. .
Now that Cain, who happens to be a Black American
Submitted by Deskpilot on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 2:28am.
is officially IN, GUARANTEED we will see more chapters of Rules for Radicals come to the fore in an effort to him down..We have seen this play book before, and we are no longer intimidated by it.
I predict it will be no later than the Tuesday news cycle before we hear other blacks, who prefer to identify themselves as "African-Americans" by the way, lay claim to the racial sellout label.
Every 3 or 4 days it will be something different,
No doubt
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 2:53am.
He will be castigated as the "porch monkey", or a tool of the white man. Someone will probably do a sympathetic piece about his "Stockholm Syndrome" or wondering why he votes against his best interest.
We're about to find out just how racist the left really is, especially if Cain gains any traction.
And you know what Cain will say about all the ugly name calling?
Submitted by Prester John on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 8:43am.
He will just quote his grandfather, as he has before (he's already been called every name in the book due to being a conservative talk show host),
"I does not care".
Herman Cain 2012
Nope, knowing what they did with Condoleesa Rice
Submitted by TheHistorian on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:22am.
they will portray him as a "house n*" not just a "porch monkey". But Cain is not an African-American, he is an AMERICAN. Distinction from the current holder of the White House who seems to put his African heritage first in everything from dissing the British as colonials to siding with the "Muslim street" even if it is linked to al-Quida.
Dennis Prager
Yeah, and even though his
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:24pm.
Yeah, and even though his useless Kenyan father (or so I've heard) abandoned him at a very young age, Boy Barry rarely gives any credence to the 'white' side of his family, even though he's more 'white' than 'black'. And do you ever hear him talk about his Indonesian stepfather??
I don't like Cain, or West, or Sowell, or any of these other 'black' Americans because of their skin color.............I like them because of their minds and their ideas and their character and their vision and understanding of what makes this country work. Boy Barry is about as 180 degree OPPOSITE what I, and millions like me, think as far as this goes.
But I have said this before here on NB..........many times. I DO have a problem with Boy Blunder's color...........and that color is RED!!!! Oh, and maybe GREEN also, since - for some reason , since most of their areas are NOT green - it seems to be the color of choice for a lot of flags from Moooooooooooooooooslem countries.
Lies of omission.
Submitted by Phryj1 on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 2:31am.
AP using the tried and true smear tactic of leaving out important facts to try to make Cain look bad. Seriously, it takes real skill to try to make Herman Cain's career look like anything other than an amazing success story.
Oh, and speaking of shuttering, how many car dealerships went out of business as a result of Obama's reorganization of GM? You know, the one that STILL hasn't returned GM to actual profitability? Yeah, AP, that's what I thought.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
AP =
Submitted by OldJoe on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 5:37am.
ALWAYS pathetic
Cain deserves better than the Godfather Pizza Lable.
Submitted by acaiguana on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:37am.
I think he is very proud of his job at Godfather's. More proud of that job than he is of being Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank.
I emphasize Bank because contrary to the AP article, the KC Fed is an independent Bank - not a 'branch' of the Federal Reserve.
If one has any understanding of the Federal Reserve System, one understands that each Bank is an independent entity belonging to the Federal Reserve System and these Banks come together to participate and form the Federal Reserve Board of Governors - which body has virtually nothing to say regarding the operation of each Federal Reserve Bank.
Geithner was Chairman of the NY Fed Bank. He is profiled as "Timothy Franz Geithner (born August 18, 1961) is an American economist, banker, and civil servant." (Wiki - I know, I'm sorry but that is how he is portrayed).
Cain held a real job people. And he is justifiably proud that he not only had a real job(s) but also excelled in them. EDITED FOR GRAMMER (ACA)
Why the AP is more enamored with Geithner is pretty clear. It is sad; it is dishonest; it is propagandistic; and it is sick.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Actually, ACA ....
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 10:17am.
... AP didn't mention Cain's tenure in KC at all.
I understated the nature of this portion of Cain's resume by referring to KC as a "branch," which was erroneous, and has been corrected, as you'll see above, where the relevant section near the top now reads: "his involvement as a director of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, where he ultimately was elected chairman."
Thanks for pointing that out. My error arises from being in Cincinnati, where we are used to referring to the Fed's branch here, which really is a branch -- of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland.
Hi Tom. My sloppy reading again.
Submitted by acaiguana on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:19pm.
I just assumed their (AP) lack of reference to this resume portion was deliberate. No reflection on your analysis of their reporting.
You do a very good job here.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Thanks for the nice words.
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 10:59pm.
I also appreciate the clarification nudge.
Ask any Liberal why they are against Cain.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 8:29am.
Then ask, "Are you a racist?" Heh, heh.
If this is the best they can
Submitted by jessieH on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:12am.
If this is the best they can do to trash Cain, he's a shoe-in!
We need someone who will shutter hundreds of bureaucracies
Submitted by TheHistorian on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:11am.
because we are right now a bankrupt nation. Seems to me AP has the important credential first; he's willing to make tough choices to save the whole.
Dennis Prager
Just interested
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:30am.
I am fascinated by your quote of Mencken. Do you have a link to the source? Was he a modern day Nostradamus?
Nope---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 8:21pm.
Mencken was a curmudgeon.
But a funny and accurate one.
MD
This is all so racist....
Submitted by notinstl on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:37am.
....we're requiring Cain to have a resume.....but Obama didn't need one.
We all knew it....................
Submitted by Tomorama on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 12:15pm.
To say that I am pissed off is an understatement as the Boston Globe made it apear he had a couple of franchises and simply worked for BK, Pillsbury and others.
Ya, he just flipped burgers and kneaded dough being the "house black" right AP and Globe?
Unlike the lying gutless coward in chief, Cain has actually run something besides his mouth.
I am posting on the Globes site my utter disgust at the hatchet job they printer their.
Cain wong on inflation engine
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:39pm.
"Yes I believe in the gold standard. We should have never gotten off the gold standard because when we got off the gold standard, that then allowed Congress to inflate our currency whenever they overspent. Now look at the mess that we have." >>>wikipedia
He spent 5 years working within the Federal Reserve money conspiracy (4 as v.president 1 as president of Kansas Fed branch) and he doesn't know or won't say that the engine of inflation is the Federal Reserve!
The engine of inflation is ....
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 1:48pm.
The Congress. Congress spends the money. Congress levies the taxes. Congress created the Fed. It can ABOLISH the Fed if is so desires. Anything the Fed does, it only does because Congress allows it. Want to castrate the Fed? Replace enough of the Congress with leaders who favor it!
Cain is still wrong about the need for keeping the Fed
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:01pm.
Congress passes the unbalanced budgets but the Fed sells the paper to banks and the banks (after they take their share of the excess printing press dollars) loan out unbacked bills to whoever and whomever. The "engine of inflation" goes into gear at this point when the loaning of the money hits the market.
You can call it a partnership (public and private) between the government (congress) and the Fed ( a private banking cartel) but the inflation of currency is the doing of the Fed. How much a part of the inflation process was Cain Director of the Kansas branch?
More Cain nonsense: He even says that an independent audit of the Fed system is unneccessary and will hurt the integrity of the banking system. Sure it will once more people find out that the Fed has been making bad loans to foreign banks. Libya is one example. The Libyan central bank is partly owned by Gaddafi.
This story hit the net today:
"In recent years and months, a great deal of secret information about the Fed has become public. The institution was, for example, clandestinely bailing out foreign banks — including one owned by the Libyan dictatorship of Muammar Gaddafi — with trillions of dollars. Meanwhile, it was manipulating the markets for stocks, bonds, real estate, precious metals, and more"
Cain claims to support the gold standard but does he support the Fed manipulating the gold and silver market? We need to ask him these tough questions.
Irgon
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 3:00pm.
Are you implying that returning to the gold standard would not impact the "inflation engine"? How so?
To be clear, the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City that Cain directed and then chaired is not the same as the US Federal Reserve - the Bank does not print money or make monetary policy. The Bank is responsible for circulating money between banks, dealing with checks, and examining banks' books.
Also, Cain has explicitly stated he would not block an audit of the Federal Reserve.
The misterious Herman "the hermanator" Cain
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 2:03pm.
herman Cain was spotlighted during a Fox Netwok info-mercial by “pollster” Frank Luntz. At first I thought it was a skit from Saturday Night Live. Luntz had this “focus group” purporting to show that the ex-pizza-chain boss was popular following a Fox News televised Republican primary debate. The people gathered in the studio claimed to never have heard of the Fed Pizza man. In infomercial style, coached acting, the supposed randomly chosen participants were nevertheless so impressed with Cain that they would vote for him. Even Shawn Hannity was embarrassed by this staged event by Luntz.
In 2008, Cain blasted “free market purists” in an opinion column for opposing the $700 billion banker bailout known as TARP.
TARP was a good thing? It was a a plain out and out bailout of crooked companies and ill managed ones !
"Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing.”
That sounds more like Marx than Adam Smith. I thought he was free market?
Both BHO and Cain think it's fine to nationalize private banks!
Let me guess...
Submitted by Conservator on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 2:56pm.
...you're a Pauy and believe Ron Paul won every debate in 2008 GOP primaries. I bet based on your comment (plus a few others) that you read Ron Paul Forums. Here's a thread I'm sure you will enjoy reading in case you missed it:
Thread: Herman Cain - Expose His Fed and TARP Links Before his Momentum Builds!
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?294359-Herman-Cain-Expose-His-Fed-and-TARP-Links-Before-his-Momentum-Builds!
The only way Obama will win reelection is if Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate and based on what I have read and seen, it appears he will in 2012 - he has no chance of winning GOP nomination.
conservator lost in debating principles
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:32pm.
The dedate and the focus of the discussion was on Hermain Cain and not on Ron Paul who is a contender for the GOP nomination along with Mr. Cain.
So despite your obvious dislike of Paul and any person who supports him, you still have to deal with issues and facts and principles brought up by those whom you dislike so much that you refer to them as "nuts."
You are free to dislike or even hate anyone you wish. I choose to not hate anyone and stick to the Christian principle of disliking the policies that politicians try to pass on as the truth.
"Love your neighbor as thyself." Did not Jesus also say to love your enemy?
By loving your enemy does not mean accepting his evil ways or his false philosophy or his emotional childishness. You can still love him and defeat him at the same time since the truth, our Lord said, will set you free! And him if pains are taken to bring the truth to light as Washington said.
Irgon
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 3:44pm.
Are you a Ron Paul supporter?
Here's a link for all to read what Cain wrote about TARP: http://004eeb5.netsolhost.com/hc133.htm. His focus was not just what was good for American businesses - the return to flow of money - but also a return on investment from the banks bailed out. Hardly an anti-free marketeer. In fact, quite capitalistic.
Next, a wide swath of Right Wingers supported TARP in it's initial concept. Cain did. So did I. My bad, because it grew into something the people didn't expect, such as coerced participation and picking winners and losers, amongst other issues. Like many others, Cain's initial support was erased once the machinations of the plan were made public, some that was out of the control of Republicans once the Obama team were ensconced in power and with the ever-present Democrat majority in both houses of Congress. That is hardly Cain's fault for the backroom dealing and bastardization of a plan he, and others, thought was going to go one way but then juked another way.
Cain will need to address this issue on the public stage, and his reasoning must be clear and sound. Considering what he thought TARP would be, as evidenced in his public remarks, and the different way things turned out to be, Cain should be able to make a good case for himself. Not everyone will believe him, but that's life.
Lastly, I also watched the Luntz segment. How was Hannity "embarrassed? If you think this was a setup then you are more than just a conspiracy nut.
forgetting your free market principles?
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:06pm.
I suppose by your logic if all who claimto be "conservative"or "right wingers" support nationalizing pissa parlors you'd go along with that idea?
You either did not read the
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 5:43pm.
You either did not read the linked Cain editorial or you are purposefully attempting to muddy the issue. Cain was not and still is not for nationalizing the banks. By definition, what Cain believed TARP to be prior to its inception and before TARP's actual workings were made public, was not nationalization. Otherwise, your inference can be logically applied to any person or business given a loan by the Feds.
Ownership structure was not altered to a nationalized structure per Cain's original beliefs.
Whites who support Herman Cain....
Submitted by Prester John on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 2:58pm.
... are racists because they support him only because he is black even though racist whites, who by definition are racists, hate BHO because he is black and would never support a black man. But whites who support BHO are not racist and neither are the blacks who support BHO even though many of them support BHO precisely because he is black. Now then, whites who do not support BHO are racists, but whites who do not support Herman Cain are not racists. Blacks who support Herman Cain are also racists because they do not support BHO, but that is impossible because we have been told that blacks cannot be racist.
Everybody got that?
"Stupid people are ruining America"
Herman Cain 2012
stratman cruthers?
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:14pm.
"you are more than just a conspiracy nut."
Why are you resorting to name calling? Have you not read the rules of etiquette? Or you just don't care about rules and would rather resort to childish name calling.
That Luntz bit is theater..........but if you choose to believe its genuine you are free to choose to believe it. Lots of people think pro wrestling is not an act either. despite the huffing and puffing and throwing chairs around the arena I would say that the pros on the mat are more entertaining than Lutz and his hand picked "focus group."
Name calling, and factual inaccuracy?
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:29pm.
What is your proof, that Lutz's group was staged? I saw it, look genuine to me. Also why didnt Paul take a few minutes to talk to Sean after the debate? I am sure the Tea Party would had appreciated his tardy-ness.
proof? open your eyes
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:58pm.
none is so blind as he who will not see said Jesus. The liberal news media has been orchestrating the news for years. The "managed news" is an old trick that works even in this day and age and to fool people into any agenda the media managers wish to direct the public to focus on.
I am aware that Fox bills itself as unbiased or balanced but why could Luntz conduct his focus more in keeping with the monker of Fox news?
Did you see how he picked his "focus group?" I didn't and Luntz didn't see fit to show anyone here where and how he found these people; what questions he asked them in order to evaluate them before hand to determine if they were good candidates to play along with his staged mini drama.
His focus group was sitting and waiting for the cue to give their 5 sec sound bite and it sounded staged. What more canI tell you.The "mainstream media" lies and stage things all the time. I'm sorry to see Fox associating with people like Luntz.
I like Scatman Crothers. He
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:02pm.
I like Scatman Crothers. He was one cool cat.
You still have no proof for your allegations. Importantly, what would be motive to conspire as you propose? Until you can demonstrate motive, your opinion is groundless disinformation.
Cain gave a great performance in that debate and earned respect of viewers. No sleight of hand or contrivance required. Viewers other than that group on FOX agreed with them as well. Were they all in on your conspiracy?
Nice trick, there, ellergon---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 8:26pm.
complain about insults or name calling; and then do the same but couch it in biblical terms or phrasing.
No one will see through that.
MD
Wow,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 8:34pm.
Thats all you got? Well that dont fly around here.
How about addressing the fact most viewers thought Cain did well?
Wah, wah, wah, Paul is soooooo yesterday's news..
Submitted by Tomorama on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 4:41pm.
Irgoneaway, any proof genius that the Luntz thing was staged or are you simply a silly Ron Paul supporter who is pissed he is getting no love here?
Show me proof or irgoaway.
The group was a random group of mainly white folks who somewhat leaned Conservative and sorry chief, my candidate won.
Have a nice nap.
A question is asked and it is answered
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 5:09pm.
Herman Cain supported and still supports the TARP bailouts.
Where is the conservative value in that terribly marxist vote by congress?
Lots of genuine conservatives voted against TARP because it was wrong philosophically and economically.
Liberals voted for Tarp.
It does not make it economically correct nor economically sound no matter how you may wish to spin the vote in order to give Mr. Cain a good image as a conservative. He supports TARP and in his support that puts him in the liberal category on this key issue.
"Herman Cain supported and
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:11pm.
And your proof is what?
Herman Cain is no longer, and has not been for quite some time, supporter of TARP.
Remember when I wrote you were more than a conspiracy nut? Here's proof you are superficial intellect and quite possibly a liar. You are an agitator either way who presents false statements.
"Yea he's liberal on TARP but ...
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 5:23pm.
but, but, but , but ...I guess I like his pizza pies."
Dance for me, monkey. Where
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:13pm.
Dance for me, monkey.
Where is your organ grinder?
strat---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 8:29pm.
:o)
:o)
:o)
MD
Cain cheerleading for TARP (Banking bailout)
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 5:53pm.
Editorial by HermanCain:
"These actions by the Treasury, the Federal Reserve Bank and the actions by the Federal Depositors Insurance Corporation (FDIC) are all intended to help solve an unprecedented financial crisis. Unlike steps taken prior to and during the Great Depression, these actions have a high probability of success."
Huh? The FDIC is busted flat!
Cain said on this radio interview that all we need to do is to tweak the Fed back on track. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI_oocjB3A8
Cain chastises critics of the Fed by asking what are you going to "replace the Fed with?" Mr. Cain how about we end the Fed and use the free market. It worked well for us without the money manipulators at the Fed prior to 1913. You don't replace the Fed with anything. You simply get back to the principles of free market economics of Adam Smith as the founders followed.
Cain tells the show's host that it's a simple procedure to do that. Sure Mr. Cain,like calling the chickens by rapping on the side of the food pan? The Fed chairman will line up all his governors to open up them Fed books they've been cooking, right?
A Texas congressman convinced a majority of the House and Senate to pass an audit of the Fed bill. What we have learned from the peek at the money the Fed has spread around should convince Mr. Cain how wrong he is on trusting the Fed with his children's future.
The Fed is a power onto itself and so far it has succeeded in bamboozling the "Hermanator."
A quote from Cain's
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:39pm.
A quote from Cain's editorial? Does this mean you read the whole piece or did you cut and paste from Conspiracies-R-Always-Present (CRAP) home page?
Ron Paul is a decent man who is tarnished by insipid halfwits like yourself who feel the need to lie about another person to feel better about themselves.
Just how did the bailed out banks do, genius? In what Cain originally commented on in that editorial, we, the American People, would have profited from not only what increased lending dollars for businesses does for the economy but also return on investment from banks returning to stability and profitability, all without permanent majority ownership of banks by government.
As I've already pointed out, Cain is OK with an audit. By all means audit. Any problems exposed should be dealt with openly and resoundingly. That Cain is OK with an audit, and the fact that he never made monetary policy or printed fiat currency, begins to squelch your premise of Cain as co-conspirator. But then again, you probably are convinced we're going to be using Ameros for currency any day now.
Including Jesus in your irresponsible posts does not authenticate your points or immunize you from being exposed as behaving trollish.
lrgon, Mr. Cain is talking about Privatization
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 6:42pm.
Hack off large chunks of the Fed and peddle it to the people.Those evvil corporations ran by crazed CEO's like , hummm Mr. Cain.
You simply get back to the principles of free market economics of Adam Smith as the founders followed.
Was there any gold use way back then?
Here is the latest on the FDIC
( guess they don't work week ends).
BTW The tax payer class may also have "savings" in a bank.
You Didn't Build That.
The FDIC is trumped by huge national debt
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 05/22/2011 - 11:18pm.
$14Trillion pushing up against the ceiling and another 70 to 100 TRILLION IN UNFUNDED liabilities.
Gold way back then? Are you serious?
The unbacked continental dollar was not a plus for America. The unbacked confederate dollar used during the war bewteen the states didnt buy much either. The problem was neither had any precious metal backing. They were just pieces of paper with pictures drawn on them. The real money (gold and silver) was missing.
Soldiers who served under Washington made up a saying about "not worth a continental" to describe the purchasing power of the unbacked currency used during the war for America Independence.
After America's victory against the king of England and his thuggish army the USA's policy was to back the dollar with Gold. The USA stayed on the gold standard until the mid thirties when FDR a socialist (probably of your likeing) took us off the gold standard.
Dollars could still be exchanged until Nixon of OSHA, EPA, and wage & Price controls, and 55MPH speed limits , fame closed the gold window to foreigners holding those US dollars.
"BTW The tax payer class may also have "savings" in a bank." ---upwater
And your point is?
Dollars in private savings banks are not immune to losing their purchasing power due to Federal reserve engineered inflation.
Does your man Cain have a magic wand that will magically put back lost value into the dollar? The federal reserve only knows one thing: inflate the currency.
One of the archtiects of the IMF John Maynard Keynes said that "Lenin was right,.... there is no surer way , nor subtler way to overthrow the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency."
While the currency is being bebauched by the Fed it will be little comfort for the FDIC to recoup your savings 100% when your savings won't buy you a loaf of bread.
If Mr.Cain doesn't know this he isn't a very bright CEO.
ellergon---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 12:37am.
"--when FDR a socialist (sic) probably of your likeing (sic) took us off the gold standard."
You are not really in a position to judge how bright someone else is.
MD
Trollster Skewboy , Skipped: Privatization. gold coinage.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 1:18am.
Yea I remember the Nixon goons busting in and seizing my silver.
FDIC is still here, and $7.95/ hr. still buys you a whole loafer.
Right Irgon
Yea it's 3% paper, the rest 97% is in the graces of the internet.
Say, Is the year of Jubilee like the internet kill switch?
Hurry open a bank account here
You Didn't Build That.
I wondered how long
Submitted by Patriot II on Mon, 05/23/2011 - 10:18am.
it would take these freaking liberal leaches to jump on republican candidates....entirely predictable vermin they are! And a racist comment at that ....wow lol