How Long Will It Take Media To Tag Tiller Murderer As Not Part of Prolife Movement?

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TillerAbortionist0509 Steven Ertelt at LifeNews.com is telling us more about the alleged murderer of Kansas abortionist George Tiller than establishment media news sources (bold is mine):

George Tiller Shooting Suspect Caught, No Connection With Pro-Life Groups

Authorities have apprehended a Kansas man suspected of killing late-term abortion practitioner George Tiller on Sunday morning at his church. Police have identified the man as 51-year-old Scott Roeder of Merriam, Kansas and he has been detained but has not yet been officially charged.

As has been the case with most previous incidents of abortion-related violence, Roeder appears to have an affiliation with extremist political groups but not with the mainstream pro-life movement.

Pro-life groups have quickly and genuinely condemned the Tiller shooting.

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In 1996, officials in Kansas apparently stopped his vehicle for not having a valid license plate, which he removed as an act of anti-governmental protest. His license plate apparently had slogans such as "Private Property, Immunity Declared at Law, Non-Commercial American."

According to the Kansas City Star, the FBI suspected Roeder of having ties with the Montana Freemen, a militia group, which had had standoffs with authorities.

At the link within the report, Ertelt recites the following organizations that quickly condemned Tiller's murder: Operation Rescue, Kansans for Life, Priests for Life, "pro-life activist Rev. Patrick Mahoney, members of the youth pro-life group Bound for Life, and others."

The New York Times has two reporters on the story, but has no information about Scott Roeder beyond his name, which the Times says the Associated Press has reported. An AP story on Tiller's murder that mentions Roeder's name is here.

Given how quick the establishment media and the government over the years have both been to assure us -- sometimes with little or no evidence -- that various murders and attacks committed by someone acting alone, or occasionally even a few people, have not been acts of terrorism committed by specific groups, it will be interesting to see how long it takes them to tell us, if it is indeed the case, that George Tiller's murderer was not affiliated with the prolife movement -- or if they will ever report it at all.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters


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Tom... --or if they will

Tom...

--or if they will ever report it at all.

That sums it up in a nutshell....perfectly.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Scott Roeder is going to be the MSM...

...poster-boy for the pro-life movement, regardless of the truth, based solely on who he (allegedly) killed.

And if he is a member of a militia, that will be an even bigger bonus for the left.

This stupid Roeder bastard handed the left a propaganda gold mine.

-Dave

How'd the MSM do with John

How'd the MSM do with John Brown?

Probably be awhile before the total truth comes out

if it does.

McClatchy has an article that is chock full of rumor and second hand information.  A lot of "friends say" type stuff.

___________________________________________ 
Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

Don't

hold your breath.

Just curious

Since I keep seeing this anti-abortion label tagged on Pro Life does that mean Pro Choice should be called anti-life?

C'mon folks!!! The man

C'mon folks!!! The man killed babies for a living. Who spoke for them?

Don't sit here and fret over who they're going to blame. It was Tiller's fault for doing something so immoral and so  controversial. I'm glad he's gone. The rule of law has not worked for the unborn. Rejoice in the day!!!

 

 

Wait...It's Tiller's fault?

Wait...It's Tiller's fault? "Rejoice"?

Yeah, It was Tiller's

Yeah, It was Tiller's fault. Blame the victim!!! It's the liberals way!!!

Listen, if you climb a mountain, you may fall off. If you jump out of an airplane, your chute may not open. If you kill babies for a living, some whack job may try to take you out.

His office was vandalized repeatedly and he was even shot once before. The man put profit and ideology before his own welfare. Bad decision.

Balboa, NB's wacky crazy

Balboa, NB's wacky crazy troll boy... 

FM

I wont rejoice in his death even though I think he should of been in prison.We have laws and you dont get to pick which ones you obey and which you dont.If people start killing those they disagree with we will wind up like some third world country.I wanted Tiller in prison for what he did but killing him wasnt the answer.I dont feel sad but this doesnt make my day either.

What is meant by "not part

What is meant by "not part of or connected with the prolife movement."  Have there been serious charges that Tiller's murder was the result of an explicitly orchestrated conspiracy by Operation Rescue or some other prolife organization for which Roeder was a hired gun?

Frankly, I'm not very comforted by the possibility that Roeder was merely a rogue extremist, nor by the fact that he had militia ties, nor by his postings at Operation Rescue's website detailing his monitoring of Tiller, and praising that organization (which had moved its headquarters to Kansas to specifically keep tabs on Tiller) for the turnout in May to protest the doctor's practice.

That said, the leaders of the various prolife groups are to be commended for their condemnation of the murder and the expressions of sympathy for the family.

Jer

 

That's nice Jer. Hope

That's nice Jer.

Hope your feeling comforted by now....after all it's all about you and how you're comforted after-all.   ;-)

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Tiller a 'doctor'?... yeah and I'm Jesus Christ.

He lost his humanity after performing his first abortion.  The only people who care are the MSM and liberals who want to somehow implicate those who peacefully protest abortion.  You are now casting dispersion on those because of one man.  I do not condone his actions, but I will not shed a single tear for this soulless wonder.

I'm casting what?  After

I'm casting what?  After you finish reading this, crack open a dictionary.  But if you're trying to say I'm blaming all of the peaceful prolife protesters for the despicable act of this lone cretin, you are sadly mistaken.

Jer

Jer in your posts you seem

Jer in your posts you seem to equate the gunamn with pro-life groups and in taht way you are casting aspersions on them.  But, that is what you do and then you claim you are misunderstood.  It is standard operating procedure for Obama Rats.  We understand completely.

Jer-Gate day 7 ... when is he leaving or is he?

I seem to equate the gunman

I seem to equate the gunman with pro-life groups?  Where?  How?

Show me.  You must have an example in mind or you wouldn't be making that claim.

Jer

When am I leaving?  You may go ahead and put the champagne on ice and distribute the party hats.

Let us speculate here, if

Let us speculate here, if Bush was murdered by a Black Panther, or a community organizer, or a Weather Underground member, or a follower of Black Liberation Theology, or a plain old Obama supporting democrat, the MSM and the left would twist it up all gnarly and somehow say it was a good thing for society as a whole, and it was all Bush's fault anyway, so why torment the poor victim who killed him.

Get my point?

D

P.S. One can only hope this Scott Roeder very vocally says 'I voted for Obama.', then this story will disappear. Poof!

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

Dead gays from November 2007.

Obama's trijnity church had 3 gays killed the same way in unsolved murder.  One was active in contact with Obama.  Why hasn't that been solved?

 

The bombshell may involve the murder of Donald Young, a 47-year-old choir master at former Rev. Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ—the same congregation that Obama has attended for the past 20 years. Two other young black men that attended the same church—Larry Bland and Nate Spencer—were also murdered execution style with bullets to the backs of their heads—all within 40 days of each other, beginning in November 2007. All three were openly homosexual.

What links this story to Barack Obama is that, according to an acquaintance of Obama, Larry Sinclair,

Obama has a compelling story.\

 

The NY Times

 "The New York Times has two reporters on the story, but has no information about Scott Roeder beyond his name..."

I love this quote.

 

"I think you'd better call John, 'cause it don't look they're here to deliver...the mail". -NY 

Now demands "anti-abortion terrorists" be hunted down...

...by DHS.

http://www.worldnetd...

-Dave

we've got to put a stop...

The late-term abortion of Tiller shows how late term abortions are getting out of hand.

More Than Meets The Eye.

The N.O.W. is acting as hypocritical now as they did when they looked the other way during the Clinton years. There is more to the George Tiller story than partial-birth abortions.

A few years back Dr. Tiller was investigated by then Attorney General Phill Kline (R-KS). It was discovered that Dr. Tillman had performed abortions on very, very young girls where statutory rape and incest were obvious, but police reports were never filed nor were the proper authorities notified. AG Kline's investigations were met with roadblocks all along the way. It seems that Dr. Tiller was a generous contributor to then Gov. Sebelius and the Democratic Party in general.

AG Kline was villified by the Democrats as well as the liberal press. He lost his re-election bid and most of the investigations were dropped.

I would think the N.O.W. would be more interested in the rapes of young girls then they would be about the killing of a mass murderer. 

This adds more possiblities as to why the killer may have offed the good doctor.

excuse me flyingmonkey

The judiciary speaks for the unborn. You may not think they are speaking adequately and I can't say I disagree with you but you don't get to say who has the right to summarily execute someone for an act that is legal no matter how much you disagree with it, CHANGE THE LAW, CHANGE THE MINDSET!

 

BRING BACK SHAME. It has a purpose you know.

you don't get to say who

you don't get to say who has the right to summarily execute someone for an act that is legal no matter how much you disagree with it

Why not and who says?  I mean the laws change and who determines what is legal and what is not?  Now voter intimidation seems to be legal and sanctioned by government.

This doesn't help

What are you missing here?

I don't deny I wasn't a fan of Tiller's.  His practices were abhorrent, his motives lacking, and his determination to kill the unborn (usually moments away from being born) disgusted me.

But he didn't deserve to die.

From what I've read, Roeder did, at least, comment on pro-life sites and even suggested going into Tiller's church to ask him about abortion.  But that doesn't make him the end-all, be-all of the pro-life movement.  Not that this matters to pro-life people.

We who are pro-life should condemn this and not give any support or credence to Roeder.  None whatsoever.

Roeder has, in one selfish evil act, set back our cause farther than anything the media could have done on its own.  In fact, Roeder may have laid the foundation for DHS-justified arrests and persecution of pro-lifers.  He has no sympathy or support from me.

Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

Dennis rader

Same community Dennis Rader is the famous BTK killer.  He was a Lutheran as was Tiller.  We can't tie any thing to the Lutheran church because crime and problems are individual deeds and not group controlled.  I suspect DHS will want to claim this as validation for their report.  Of course Dr Tiller was an old white man.  So this isn't hate crime.

Exuse Me Duck, but...

I don't remember advocating or condoning the murder of abortion doctors. I'm simply not going to get teary-eyed over a man who made his living yanking babies half way out of their mother's wombs and then sucking their brains out when they are mere seconds from being born. I also feel no sympathy for a man who puts ideology and profit ahead of the welfare of under-aged girls who were obviously victims of rape and incest.

I weep for heroes, not murderers.

We understand, monkey...you

We understand, monkey...you not only shed no tears for Tiller, you literally and publicly rejoice in his death.

Jer

This is an example of projection.

Do you weep for the death of the unborn?  Are we grieving when a Muslim lady is a victum of an honor killing?

Would you react if the same poster claimed you

"literally and publicly rejoice in " in the death of the unborn and Born alive newborns?

 

 

Don't bother me with

Don't bother me with hypotheticals, seven.  I commented on what flyingmonkey had specifically posted earlier in the thread.

Jer

Funny how Jer is so concerned about this monster of a man and

yet finds no sympathy of those this man took from hundreds of wombs while crying for their mothers all the while shoving a tool in their head while they were squirming in such torment and pain.

Ponder that thought.

pahuber... You don't know

pahuber...

You don't know whom I feel sympathy for, so shut your pathetic mouth.

Jer

Jer, your sympathies are quite clear from your postings and I

will not 'shut my pathetic mouth'...  you feel so very bad for the wife and Tiller and want to make hay of it while you can.  I won't let you just spew the usual crap you've grown accustomed to on NB's.  Deal with it, jer.

-

double

Good morning Jer

I'm not rejoicing in Tiller's murder but I am rejoicing that he can no longer torture innocent babies to death.

 I am also rejoicing that his murderer is caught and will be brought to justice and punished.

Murder is murder is murder is murder except if one is a liberal, then sometimes it's OK. Unless it is a liberal being murdered.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

Close your eyes and imagine

Close your eyes and imagine this scenario Jer.

The babies body is pulled from the womb except for his/her head. He or she feels the sensation of coolness on his/her body. His or her tiny arms flail, the legs kick. The babies first goose flesh may appear on his/her skin.  The ankles are grabbed and held together in one hand to hold the baby still. A sharp instrument is plunged into the base of the babies skull. The little body stiffens. The legs try to kick and the arms again flail, but this time for an entirely different reason. The brain is sucked from the skull and the tiny body goes limp.

What kind of cold-hearted bastard does this for a living?

Rejoice??? Indeed!!!

Unfortunately, Jer probably thinks this is a hypothetical

like he stated last post to you. 

However, this is a fact to how this inhuman monster made his payolla to raise his family on...  and his church?  What kind of dark tidings welcome a monster like this into their sanctuary...???

Go away, pahuber...you

Go away, pahuber...you don't know what you are talking about.

Jer

LOL... ??? Uh, no Jer... I absolutely know what I am talking

about.  When you say that the situation is hypothetical I will challenge you because this is how it was with this monster.  You OTOH seem to be clueless or just want to shut your mind to what this monster did for a living.  So you are just going to have to deal with it Jer.

pahuber... Are you just

pahuber...

Are you just being intentionally stupid?  I didn't claim any "situation" was hypothetical.  I was clearly referring to a couple of questions from seven.  Review the thread.  You're embarrassing yourself.

Jer

Jer, I reviewed because of your inane post and found I was

correct.

Seven gave you some realistic scenarios and you stated:

"Don't bother me with hypotheticals, seven.  I commented on what flyingmonkey had specifically posted earlier in the thread."

Those were not hypotheticals as tiller was an abortionist of the worst order.  

You are showing your true colors.

 

I see you are still here

I see you are still here despite your threats to call it quits, further proof that NB is like Lay's Potato Chips:  "Betcha can't eat just one"

I'll give you a legitimate chance to talk about hypotheticals on this thread.  How would you contrast and compare Tiller's assassin, Roeder, with the abolitionist, John Brown.  I think a strong case can be made that they are nearly congruent.

Yeah, NL...It was all

Yeah, NL...It was all bullshit.  I'm not going anywhere.

As far as the Roeder/Brown comparison, it's probably premature to make one since very little is known about Roeder.  But, it's potentially an interesting question to think about, and I tend to agree with your view, i.e. that a strong case of congruency can be made.

Jer

I'm going to have to

I'm going to have to disagree there, Jer & NL.  Any 'congruency' is superficial.  The John Brown/Roeder comparison holds up to all of two second of scrutiny.

Brown attempted to arm and lead a mass insurrection of slaves against their captors.  To spark a revolt against violent oppression and subjugation, one which (theoretically) would have involved the slaves willingly fighting for their own lives and their families'.  It was illegal, misguided, and, many historians now say, counterproductive (although it is considered a catalyst to the Civil War so perhaps not in the long run).  But it was, at least, a patriotic and revolutionary means of violent rebellion.

The only way the comparison of Brown to Roeder would be if Brown, all by himself, had snuck onto a plantation, crept up behind the owner (who would no doubt be enjoying a mint julep on his porch having just come from whipping someone for not picking cotton fast enough) and blew his head off point blank in front of his wife.  And then claimed to be justified because he did it on behalf of the slaves. 

In the broader picture,

In the broader picture, these two have far more in common than you suggest.

Brown opposed the Government, which at that time steadfastly defended slavery, by use of statute, jurisprudence and force, by force.  Indeed, his actions in Bloody Kansas make the raid on Harper's Ferry seem tame by comparison.

Roeder is opposed to the Government in even more ways than was Brown.  He is opposed to taxation AND he opposes unrestricted abortion, which the Government steadfastly defends by statute, jurisprudence and force.

The only difference I can see between the two is Roeder appears to be a loner unconnected with other activists opposed to these things where Brown was the leader of a small paramilitary force of like mind to himself and consequently, was able to carry out much greater acts of violence.

flyingmonkey... I've read

flyingmonkey...

I've read graphic descriptions of the procedure countless times, and it is indeed horrific.  But if you actually rejoice in the gunning down of a human being while he is handing out church bulletins with his wife a few feet away in the choir, then you are one sick dude.  You make an absolute mockery of prolife.

Jer

Actually, Jer... you seem to be the one who is sick.

"But if you actually rejoice in the gunning down of a
human being while he is handing out church bulletins with his wife a
few feet away in the choir, then you are one sick dude. "

Yeah, keep focussing on this and only this...  booohoooo booohooo   he was shot he was shot...  well, he was also a murder of the worst order.  FM's position makes much more sense than yours does.  

You Want Mockery?

I said rejoice in the day Jer.

But let's talk about mockery. A partial-birth abortion doctor handing out church bulletins. That's a mockery of Jesus and his teachings.

So, the semantical

So, the semantical squirming begins:

You said "I'M GLAD HE'S GONE...REJOICE IN THE DAY."

Good grief....Even pahuber can figure out what you meant by that.

Jer

Are you sure Jer? He's

Are you sure Jer?

He's challenging me to show him where people are celebrating this murder.

Franly, I'm shocked by this thread.  The NBs are normally well above this, especially compared to other sites like KOS. 

Cacciato... Scroll up. 

Cacciato...

Scroll up.  It's about the sixth one from the top.

Jer

Jer, FM is not advocating murder. BTW jer, you KNOW I was

dead on in my responses to you earlier in my posts.  You said hypothetical, but I feel they were legitimate questions from FM.  This man need not be mourned...  he was a monster... glad he is gone.... very simple premise, but I am not glad he was murdered.  I wish he could have brought to justice eventually through legal means.

Okay, pahuber... I'm

Okay, pahuber...

I'm sorry for my impolite remarks.  And I know that neither you nor FM are advocating murder.  But FM was unmistakably rejoicing in Tiller's death.

Jer

Jer, How is rejoicing in

Jer,

How is rejoicing in murder not inherently advocating murder?

Not sure I see the distinction. 

Cacciato

Well, it's a slight distinction, but a distinction nonetheless.

I rejoiced in the fact that Saddam Hussein was removed from this earthy realm so that he could no longer cause misery to millions, but I didn't advocate our military intervention in Iraq for the purpose of capturing and executing him.

Jer

Fair enough Jer.  I hear

Fair enough Jer.  I hear you, but methinks FM meant exactly what he said.  Sadly he's probably not the only one.

I just find this thread to be a bit disturbing.  People who are anti-abortion b/c they consider it to be murder shouldn't cheer for murder.

Very strange.  

No problem, Jer. This is a passionate topic and I apologize too

as I get impolite, as well.

I will only speak for myself as the person who shot tiller really gave the pro-life movment a black eye.  I wish it did not happen, but at the same time I dispise tiller for what he did.

 

pahuber...

I think that is a very fair and reasonable view.

Jer

I heard on Fox this morning

I heard on Fox this morning on Kelly's Court, he has performed over 60,000 of these murders of the defenseless babes.

Sixty Thousand...and they were not all legal by Kansas law.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I heard about this in church

Heard about it in the men's room.  A policement made a comment.  The cop is a Preachers kid.  It had happened 7 hours before I heard about it. 

My first educated response actually was how did we as society deal with the grieving families of women that were tormented inside after abortions and committed suicide.  What about their loved ones?  When a woman commits suicide, rarely does any one know her private medical history. 

No one is saying you have to

No one is saying you have to get teary-eyed, at least I'm not. But rejoicing over his death is a little rough.

Rough???

Tell the babies that!!!

So you'd like to see more

So you'd like to see more doctors murdered?

Bal, and you wonder why you are so 'well' thought of here on

this site?  How do you even post something like that from what FM said?

Loaded Question Balboa.

Let me answer that question by quoting many a liberal Democrat.

Sometimes the end justifies the means.

You can just say "Yes."

You can just say "Yes."

Back At Ya Balboa

So you'd like to see more babies murdered?

No. But doctors have a legal

No. But doctors have a legal right to perform them without being murdered.

Touche'

You can just say yes!!!

When one chooses this

When one chooses this course he should be prepared for the outcome.

After all the murders commited by Tiller it was just a matter of time until someone took the law into his own hands.

"Rejoice?" no, I rejoice in nobody's death but I can definately understand why someone would decide to wipe this stain from the face of the earth.

Promoting the murder of

Promoting the murder of human beings to protest the murder of human beings.

Strange mantra you have there.

If you think his kind of behavior will help the prolife cause at all, you are sadly mistaken.   

No one 'promoting the murder of human beings...' cacc, you are

again resorting to your natural tendency to lie and bend words to your meaning.

So what would you call

So what would you call capital punishment Cacc?

And for the record I'm not pro-life, I'm anti-abortion. Pro-life was a moniker hung on the anti-abortion movement by the liberals so they could soften their own from pro-abortion to pro-choice. They do this all the time, like changing liberal to progressive and global warming to climate change.

I believe in capital punishment and assisted suicide which would hardly be considered pro-life. I'm also pro-choice as far as pregnancy prevention. Let's see, there are condoms, IUD's, foams, patches, implants, pills (aren't those Yaz girls hotter than doughnut grease?) and even plan B. None of which I oppose. I won't bother mentioning abstinence as I'm sure you wouldn't understand the concept. Sounds like a lot of choices to me.

Balboa, Are these guys

Balboa,

Are these guys for real?  I've never seen this level of sick behavior on this website.

KOS or LGF, but never here.

It's extremely unnerving. 

cacc, back up your claims instead of acting like the typical

leftist idiot making false claims... who wrote what that has you so berry berry fwightened? 

I would love to see you answer this you seminar/troll/balboa type moron.

Yours truly,

pahuber

I don't think anyone has to

I don't think anyone has to be sad about this murder, but to actually rejoice the murder of a doctor is pretty twisted.

I wouldn't expect people to

I wouldn't expect people to be sad, but at least respectful and least not dancing in the streets over someone's death.

Furthermore Bal, You can

Furthermore Bal,

You can be certain if this type of thing was going on at KOS, WTH would be all over it.

But apparently when it happens here, it's ok. 

Still waiting cacc... geeeez the way you post I am waiting for

an atom bomb to drop.  Can't wait to be underwhelmed by your accusations of posters here on this thread... 

you know however people can just read it for themselves and make up their own minds that you are a leftist troll trying to somehow influence via the use of shame tactics.

Somehow, I think you and bal conversing is symbolic of your delusion postings.... 

Please prove me wrong.

Balboa and CC

You two know quite well that we  are not rejoicing over Tiller's murder. We are rejoicing that he will no longer be torturing babies to death and that his murderer will be punished.

You liberals have been calling for the assination of President Bush, the death of Clarence Thomas, the death of Rush, and the list goes on and on. You liberals think murder is OK except when it is a liberal being murdered.

 You two are despicable with your distorted accusations.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

Well said.

Well said.

You aren't. "flyingmonkey"

You aren't. "flyingmonkey" is. I never said anyone else was. I never called for the assassination of Bush, Thomas, Rush, and would not think murder was OK as long as it was not a liberal.

Coco, You are rejoicing

Coco,

You are rejoicing over his murder and no amount of semantic wrangling will change that.  Any sensible person reading this thread can see that.  In fact, your first paragraph acknowledges this.  

Your second paragraph is so ridiculous as to not even be worthy of comment.  Even if that is true, why would that excuse your rejoicing in murder?

Finally, I am not a liberal.  Never have been, never will be.  I've already been over this.  

My accusations are not distorted.  They are completely accurate and anyone who can read can see that within seconds of reading this thread. 

"Any sensible person

"Any sensible person reading this thread can see that."

I guess that leaves you out, lol.

CC

Apparently you cannot read nor comprehend what you are attempting to read.

If you do not realize that you are a liberal, your ability to think is also in question.

 Rest assured though, You are definitely despicable.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

Thank You Coco.

I know that those other two yahoos really know what I meant but will continue to twist the meaning to fit their agenda.

Murder is murder plain and simple. Just because the government sanctions the butchering of viable, unborn babies doesn't mean it's right or that I should agree with it. As I've stated before, I do not advocate nor condone the murder of abortion doctors or unborn babies. But I will not shed a tear for his untimely demise and I will rejoice in the fact that unborn human beings just seconds from life will no longer be slaughtered by this monster.

How these two idiots can look at what this man did for a living and then chastise me for my feelings is ludicrous.

Rejoice in the day!!! I

Rejoice in the day!!!

I took that as a statement of joy at the murder of Tiller. 

boa...and I took it as

boa...and I took it as rejoice in the day that he won't be able to murder another baby today.

What was done was already done...nobody here advocated the murder of Tiller...but he was...and others look at if from the point of view as babies lives has been saved today.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

and others look at if from

and others look at if from the point of view as babies lives has been saved today. 

That is naive to the point of being grotesque.  Do you truly believe women who have made the decision to abort would decide not to just because they'll have to drive somewhere else to do it now.

Come on.  Tiller's murder accomplished nothing.  If anything, it will make people who are moderate on the issue swing pro-choice.

Good evening monk

Jesus said I have to love 'em, He didn't say I had to let them slander this site nor the honorable posters that live here.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

"Respectful," of this piece

"Respectful," of this piece of sub-human garbage? BAH, he lost claim to any and all respect when he first murdered a baby.

Respect is EARNED not given and Tiller earned exactly what he got.

Does this mean we can add

Does this mean we can add you to the "rejoicing in Tiller's death" column?

Jer

Who's dancing Mo

or is it Ron? Considering what your buddies at kos and huff have posted about wishing folks dead, you dont have a leg to stand or dance with.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

The Liberal Way

The liberal way on this would be to excuse the killer because of a history of discrimination, no access to opportunities, 'kept down by the man', not adequate social services, inadequately funded K-12, societal pressure, ADHD, ad nauseum.

They would instead blame the weapon used, and the company that manufactured it, and the dealer that sold it.

If somehow Roeder beats the rap (hung jury, nullification, spoiled evidence, etc.) perhaps he can apply to the University of Chicago for a professor position.

This thread is

This thread is shameful.

I hope the Newsbusters authorities do something about this.

I literally just read every comment and I can't believe what I'm seeing.

Prolifers rejoicing in the murder of  a man at church.  Doesn't make any sense to me. 

Sick.  Truly Sick.  These posters are an embarassment to themselves and to the entire site.

cacc is back with his usual ramblings of a libtard troll.

"Sick.  Truly Sick.  These posters are an embarassment to themselves and to the entire site."

Gee cacc, big surprise finding you here dispensing shame in your typical liberal fashion.  BTW... who is rejoicing in the murder of the monster tiller?  I'm sorry shall we all mourn his passing?  Humble ourselves in shame and apologize?  Oh dear...

Get a grip.

 

by every comment

you mean one posters comments - flyingmonkey.  I think he's been duly chastised.

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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

Don't forget his

Don't forget his cheeleaders, coco and pahuber.

Furthermore, I never charged that every post was sick.  Merely pointing out that I read the whole thread and overall found it to be sickening.

I hope FM has been chastised for his/her disturbing commentary 

"Merely pointing out that I

"Merely pointing out that I read the whole thread and overall found it to be sickening."

Too bad late term abortions don't affect you the same way....

cacc, I do not know anyone except bal who takes you seriously.

That IN and OF itself is very telling.

You still have not backed up your claim with any post... and keep saying the same thing over and over.

katainkent...

I have an idea flyingmonkey doesn't feel he has been "duly chastised" at all.  It seems far more likely he thinks he's simply being harrassed by two or three misguided, abortion-worshiping liberals.

Maybe one lonely conservative has gently rebuked him.  Where are the others?

Jer

why does it have to be

a conservative?  You've been here far longer than myself and generally tend to post with clarity.  Anyone with half a brain can read your posts and choose to understand your meaning behind them or ignore them at their leisure.

Personally, I feel sorry for this man's family.  I can imagine the pain his wife is in.  I can imagine that's she's been worried this might happen for a long time especially given that's he's been shot before - she might have even pleaded with him to stop if only for his own safety.  I have no feelings for him at all.  None.  He killed babies.  It may be legal, but he still killed babies.

Flyingmonkey can fend for himself, or not.

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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

Wouldn't the criticism of

Wouldn't the criticism of flyingmonkey be far more credible and effective if it came from conservatives instead of liberals?  We voice our disapproval and get clubbed over the head with the "supporters of baby killing" claim. 

Someone was boasting on another thread about how conservatives respect law and order and condemn the murder of Tiller in contrast to the "dance on the grave" types over at dKos who would celebrate the death of a conservative.  Meanwhile, at this thread, there are several conservatives dancing on the grave of Tiller.

Jer

sorry Jer

after reading the entire thread I am not sure it was meant as such or not.  Therefore, I am letting you all duke it out as you see fit and see the outcome.  Its not as if the end result will be someone changing their mind.  I've never been a fan of the 'pile on' method.  I like to see how people present their arguments one on one.

 But if you'd like to continue the call for others to jump in... *shrug*

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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

I don't quite understand, katainkent

You're not sure what was "meant as such or not"?  Are you talking about flyingmonkey?  He has made his position crystal clear.  But feel free to shrug it off.  I'm not calling for anyone to jump in.  I do wonder why more haven't.

Jer

well you should know as well as anyone

how people's words and intentions can get mangled.  How simply being snide to someone can come back to bite you in the butt later.   How making an effort to explain yourself can even result in more problems.  And how some people get on your nerves so much that putting together a polite answer is too much effort.

I shrug only that I don't think people need to come to other grown ups 'rescue' on a message board - especially on a topic like this where no one's mind if going to be changed.  I am standing back and letting the conversation run its course.  The pro-life groups have denounced it.  I have given my personal opinion, hopefully with clarity. So please don't twist my words as well.

Continue wondering, though.  Answers may yet come.

I have to go pull up sod now so... have a good morning/afternoon.

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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

How simply being snide to

How simply being snide to someone can come back to bite you in the butt later.

You mean snide like... "But if you would like to continue to call for others to jump in  *shrug*"

So please don't twist my words as well.

You're suggesting I've twisted someone else's words.  Whose?

Jer

...

I think I've been more than polite.  If you found that comment snide, I apologize.

In general, I think you are

In general, I think you are exceedingly polite.  That's why I was a little taken aback by the "brush off" nature of that particular comment, as well as the reference to twisting words.  Maybe I read something into it that wasn't intended.

Anyway, thanks for the apology but it really wasn't necessary for the minimal [if any] snideness involved.  However, I'm still a little confused about the "twisting words" thing.

Jer

thinking we're reaching into dead horse material

but ok - I wanted to make my point crystal clear that it your was your call for people to condemn I couldn't get riled over - thus the shrug.   You're a lawyer, I have confidence you can handle it without the illustrator turned at-home mother.

There is nothing about this subject matter I find shrug - worthy.

Now I think this horse is officially dead. Its time for a bag of lemons and a cup of sugar and a pitcher of cold water.

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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984

Well the horse isn't dead

Well the horse isn't dead because you continue to sidestep my question about twisting words.  But I'm willing to send it to the stable and forget about it.

Have a great evening.

Jer

jer, Ok OK cheap shot coming--

but you brought the horse analogy into this-- how come as I watch the horse go in the barn I see your face???? I know, I know it sounds rash, brash and nasty--but it relly isn;t. I just thought it funny.

misterbill...

And that's my good side, misterbill.  [But, for the record, I think it was kat who first brought up the horse.]

Jer

BTW, before you leave on your vacation, please at least read the belated reply I made to your post about me being too much of a "homer."  You don't even need to answer it if you prefer.   And have a great time wherever you're traveling to.

Disappointed again Jer?

 
In general, I think you are exceedingly polite.  That's why I was
a little taken aback by the "brush off" nature of that particular
comment, as well as the reference to twisting words. 

Spoken just like a Saint, good grief. Who do you think your fooling?

Maybe I read
something into it that wasn't intended.

 You typically do, and let me be the first to accuse you of purposely doing it.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I feel like Tiller got

I feel like Tiller got exactly what he deserved, the consequences of his chosen proffession; that of murdering babies.  If he murdered Jews then he would be a war criminal hounded to teh ends of the earth.  In Nazi Germany it was legal to kill Jews or experiment on them or torture them or make them slaves.  Is there any difference in what Nazis did and abortion?

You live by thesword and you die by the sword.

As a supposed Christian it did not matter if Tiller was offed now or later as God will take him when He is ready.  In fact God took him because God wanted him now.  So we should rejoice in Tillers death, because Tiller is now in the afterlife.  Somehow though I don't think Tiller invested in fire insurance.

This is how the story

This is how the story begins: one person makes some wince inducing comments, then some troll takes the ball and speads those comments out to include "commenters" and soon it'll be referred to as "everyone here". 

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Right Chris...and how dare

Right Chris...and how dare we not conform to how they say we should act and feel in a given situation.

I know one thing, a lot of people have kept themselves restrained here from saying what they really feel about this madman doctor...because of respect for NBs and others here.

Yet we have a few liberal posters here having the audacity to chastise us for our feelings and opinion...that have been respectful as a whole here..why were supposed to cry a river over the death of a man who made his living murdering the most defenseless...and had no problem doing so...or skirting the law while doing it...60,000 babes he got rid of, in a very painful way.

Nobody here that I saw last night was advocating the murder of Tiller, but what was done was done...we can't change that, but can express our thoughts on how much we despised Tiller.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I am not saying how anyone

I am not saying how anyone should feel. I don't expect you to be sad about this. I merely thought "rejoice" at the news of this was troubling, by ONE person on here.

Hi bt, As I see it,

Hi bt,

As I see it, there's been way too much typing on this one person's comments. It's the kind of exchange that makes it look like more people were involved with the original comment than him. I see this like you do: I condemn the murder in the strongest terms, however, I have difficulty working up tears for the victim. I looked on him as a Jack Kevorkian - a dealer in death.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Chris... Well, I'll

Chris...

Well, I'll personally applaud your strong condemnation of Tiller's murder.  I believe if you review this thread you'll find that very few have issued any condemnation whatsoever, and that several in addition to flyingmonkey have celebrated his death.

Jer

Still trying to cause

Still trying to cause trouble eh Jer...you just can't let it go can you?

Let it be.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bigtimer...

You've been pointing fingers, trashing liberals, spitting hate all day.  I've condemned the types of late term abortions Tiller was reportedly performing.  Have you condemned his murder?

Jer

Where's the hate Jer

Where did BT spit hate? Your the hater here, always contorting others words, throwing around fales accusations. Only those who hate do that Jer.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Only liars and cowards make

Only liars and cowards make claims they can't or won't back up.  You qualify for both.  Congratulations.

Jer

Jer... I didn't see your

Jer...

I didn't see your comment to me above.

As gc asked....where have I been spewing hate today?

Show me the money.

You sit, spin and twist everything everyone says...and soon everyone is going to know this little game you play..all the time.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Show you the money, bt? Well...

Open your purse, dear...

Here's some spare change:

"living with rabid loons"

"the left will use [the tragedy of Tiller's death] with glee"

[after misterbill called Jason a sick bastard and a useless piece of detritus] "How you are feeling right now is how I felt last night with some leftist posters too.  It is madness...and they twist and turn and try to make us look bad...I have had my fill of this BS"

"what was [the msm's] evil agenda?  Yet when it's Tiller the Baby Killer...why there is such sweet sorrow from some in the msm...to USE for their agenda against the right side of life....Makes me furious with their priorities"

"Yo...you liberals...REAL TORTURE! ...and you whine because three enemies we were fighting during a war after we were attacked were waterboarded...Pathetic...Talk about double standards...sickening, mind-bending...and simply unbelievable"

That should at least cover your bus fare.

Jer

Poor Jer... For somebody

Poor Jer...

For somebody who says he is a lawyer... I see why he is here all the time instead of trying real cases in a courtroom.

Tee...hee...hee

That was pathetic...you owe me some money honey.

You cannot take just bits and pieces out of different conversations and threads as you see fit...and to top it off...I haven't spewed any hate today Jer...no wonder it took you so long.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Yea BT

Stupid me, I though we were talking about this thread? He is reaching pitifully. I dont reach back a get anyones post, I use the relevent ones to the topic currently being dicussed

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Please see my response on

Please see my response on the other thread.

However, three of the five examples were direct quotes from this thread, and the remaining two were from another thread on the same topic.  So they were all relevant.

And, at least, I provide specific examples.

Jer

Jer... Specific examples

Jer...

Specific examples of what?!  

You're a whiz-bang trouble-making twit...how is any of the pathetic excuses you took out of posts at your convenience spewing hate anyway?

Eh?

I cannot believe how much you have lowered yourself here today Jer, and last night too...yet you continue on with this BS...for what reason...you twist in the wind....you back-track, you try the innocence tactic...on and on...

I'm done with you.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

a. Why not respond to the

a. Why not respond to the correct post, bt.

b. Please show me where I've backtracked on anything--other than apologizing to g c for unwarranted namecalling

c.  When I leave NB this time, please don't make it a repeat of last time when you and Dee falsely accused me of engaging in improper sexual commentary on Shawn's thread and also ganging up on Warner.  I was completely innocent on both counts, pleaded with you to show me any shred of evidence of my guilt, only to be met with "you know what we're talking about, and I'm not saying anything more" and similarly dismissive replies.  Let's try to part on a good note this time.  Okay?

Jer

Well, bt...now you know

For somebody who says he is a lawyer... I see why he is here all the time instead of trying real cases in a courtroom.

Well, now you know why I could only afford small change.

But it was not pathetic.  They were all direct quotes which you have made today, three of which were from this thread, and the remaining two from another abortion thread.  So all five were relevant, appropriate, and establish your guilt as charged beyond all doubt.  Bailiff take her away.  Yes, in the cuffs and leg irons.

Next....The State vs. general company

Jer

Jer... I can see why you

Jer...

I can see why you wouldn't even qualify as a court appointed lawyer with your sit and spin...

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Whatever, bt...I give

Whatever, bt...I give up.

All the best,

Jer

Your the one with the false claim Jer

Like a typical liberal, you resort to threats and names. Least your predictable. BTW how's my spelling been today?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

g c

Please see my previous response on the other thread.

Jer

"Doesn't make any sense to

"Doesn't make any sense to me."

How's this for making sense: I can kill my baby because I'm a woman. This whole debate makes no sense.

Seems I remember hearing that Tiller aborted one woman's baby not long before birth simply because she was sad over not being able to go to the rodeo. That makes perfect sense....like...totally.

Not one to condone murder, but the sky is a little more blue today, and on the bright side, there will be no innocent, late term babies killed in Kansas today, so there's that.

I will do what I can Cacc


This thread is shameful.


I hope the Newsbusters authorities do something about this.

 But I doubt they will ban YOU on my say so?

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Economic abortionist------

Okay, here goes---

What's the problem? Tiller was simply the recipient of a "late term abortion", who can dispute the irony. He became an inconvenience, so it's only appropriate he be excised to allow the viability of-----Oh hell, who gives a flip? The guy was evil and earned tons of jack by killing babies!!!!

Also with what Obama is doing with the economy, our security, our future, our freedom, just remember to keep eyes on the ball, because Obama is the ultimate abortionist, he's killing America!!!!!

Not sure what to feel

I abhor the practice of abortion but cannot justify killing this provider, and no I will not call him a doctor, a doctor preserves life, an abortionist kills life in the womb, simple as that.

I literally work two buildings down from an abortion clinic and very often I see men and women kneeling and praying for the unborn being killed within it's walls and I pray from my office as well.

Killing an abortionist solves nothing, there will always be one to take their place and as long as it is legal some women will seek them out instead of taking reponsibility for their actions, about all we can do is pray for God's intervention on behalf of the innocent.

Everytime a zealot kills an abortionist it sets back the pro-life movement by years, even decades. Let's remember who controls the media and the government and how they they will twist and spin the pro-life movement and paint us all as extremists and zealots when in reality we want to see an end to abortion peacefully through education and enlightenment.

It Doesn't Help To Have Randall Terry Commenting On This...

Obviously, you can't pin it down on the pro-life side, but it doesn't help that side when folks like Randall Terry claim to be the spokesman for the pro-life movement and, at the same time, going all his way out to claim this is a great victory for the pro-life movement and celebrates it by calling for drinking Guinness.

Personally, if I had the opportunity to, I would lynch the sonuvabitch murderer for what he did, not because of who he was. The ends never justify the means. Ever. If they did, Chamberlain would have somehow miraculously won WWII by appeasing Hitler. If they did, Jimmy Carter would have restored peace to the Middle East by throwing out the Shah of Iran. But guess what? It never works. It makes things absolutely worse, I.E. those two hypotheses I threw out.

The problem isn't that there is a pro-life movement, the problem was that some of the outer fringes of that movement painted Dr. Tiller as some sort of Nazi-like eugenicist. By labeling him Tiller The Killer or Baby Killer, you are putting out the impression that he is akin to Goebbels, Stalin or Hitler. I've read on this very site that even though there was a history of Dr. Tiller being attacked by the pro-life side by either being shot at in the arms or having his abortion clinic vandalized, it was justified because, oh, he was a mass-murderer, he was evil incarnate, blah-blah-blah and puffed rice for all. You realize how silly that sounds, especially compared to liberal fringies that have called Dick Cheney satanic or evil incarnate (including me, to be fair, when I was a stupid teenager five years ago.)

So, basically, either learn from history or repeat it. That's how simple it is. The penalty for murder is death, and the sonuvabitch murderer deserves to fry.

Uh, sticks... tiller was a baby killer. Did yuh get the memo?

He killed lots and lots of babies in gruesome fashion.  Does this not sparkle with you?

7s... ...and here awhile

7s...

...and here awhile back I had such high hopes for you on seeing a glimmering of the real light.

I've read your posts since I have said that when you reappeared after a long absence...and I realize I  made mistake...not that first time, won't be the last....but what a disappointment.

No biggie though.    ;-)

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breadboard

Bigtimer, If Tiller is a

Bigtimer,

If Tiller is a murderer, what does that make the millions of women that get abortions every year?

I've seen a lot of Tiller hate today, but literally zero mention of the women who ELECT to have abortions.

What is your opinion about them?  Abhor the doctor all you want, but all his patients came to him of their own accord.

 

Cacciato...Imprisoning women who abort

I have raised this very question two or three times over the past couple of years, even in the context of what should the appropriate penalty be for women who take a morning after pill to self-abort a microscopic fertilized egg (which according to the prevailing prolife view--as well as the platform of the Republican party--would potentially constitute the murder of a human being.

There has been precious little response.  However, two or three have made thoughtful replies, including one which, if memory serves, was that it be treated as tantamount to manslaughter with a prison sentence of 5-10 years.  For surgical abortions thereafter the prison time would increase proportionately.  Presumably, a very late term abortion would carry the death penalty.

Jer 

Jer and CC

During every abortion a human baby is brutally and painfully killed. If somehow this baby survives the abortion, it is thrown aside to die a painful death.

People have gone to jail for doing this to animals, Some have been prosecuted just for disturbing the nest of a bald eagle.

Why are human babies worth less than animals?

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

cocodrie

I suppose you would need to ask someone who believes a human baby is worth less than an animal.

Do you believe a fertilized egg suffers pain?

Jer

Jer

You ask an inane question and bounce back and forth like the ball in a pinball machine. When you defend abortion you indicate you place no value on human life.

You know good and well what happens dueing an abortion and are avoiding rhe issue.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

cocodrie...

You asked an inane question, to which I responded.  I asked an inane question which you ignored and chose instead to attack me.

Since you apparently are familiar with my views on abortion--which I have stated before--what are they?

Jer

Jer

Your comments have a consistant defense of liberal immorality and a condemnation of conservative moral values. You should be familiar with your own posts.

Why do you not value human life and why don't you quit defending those who destroy it?

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

→ Silent Scream

Surely, you're aware of the Movie "Silent Scream" in which a baby is subjected to a saline abortion.

Why is the baby (or mass of tissue, if you prefer) writhing?  Is it you're claim it's ecstasy at being burned alive?

But Jer, for his argument's sake, wants to take a late-term abortion all the way back to a fertilized egg which hasn't even developed its own blood yet.

Bait and switch.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

Deliberate mischaracterization, Cool...

Deliberate mischaracterization...

I've given my views on late-term abortions.  Regarding the abortion debate generally, it is the Republican platform which has taken it all the way back to the fertilized egg.  I am only arguing from the GOP's stated position.  What am I supposed to do...ignore it?

And, for the record, cocodrie--in the post to which I responded--never even mentioned "late term abortion".  In fact, he specifically stated "in every abortion".

Jer

→ Not at all

So you are admitting that late-term abortion is indefensible?

Pray tell, why?  You're not an ideologue, are you?

BWAHAHAHAAAA!

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

Oh brother.  Do you

Oh brother.  Do you really think I'm going to fall into one of your rhetorical traps?

Despite your numerous attempts over the past couple of years I've yet to be ensnared even once.  Give it up, man.  Or maybe as a going away present I'll just go ahead and step in one--but only if you promise to catch and release.

Jer

→ Not at all, Jer

Were I serious, I wouldn't have included the hearty Vincent Price laugh.

Besides, it's less important that you admit to being ensnared than that others recognize it is so.

BTW.  Check this out, Jer.  Wish my account had been better funded when I found this one.  Probably gonna crash right after posting this.  It's all play money anyway.

Thank you Tim Geithner.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

Cool...

Wow!  Were you already in on HEB?  I just can't even stand to look at my portfolio--biggest bunch of crap losers ever assembled in a single account.

I'm going to PM you my email address before I leave here so you can send me some hot tips.  I'm depending on you to recapitalize my retirement.

Jer

→ Jer

I convinced a buddy at work to engage in flipping his own 401k at work rather than letting it ride.

I did great last year, not so good this year.  I'm down 8.5% and he's up about 3%.

Anyway, after I opened up a trading account with no more than I'd take to Vegas, He had to do it too with a considerably larger sum.  Needless to say, he's better at picking winners than I am.  Today, I got better than even.  He's already doubled his money.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

→ Jer

So you condemn the actions of Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg?

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

No.  I wish he had

No.  I wish he had succeeded.

Jer

→ Thanks, Jer

So you support treason and murder?

Now that we've determined what you are, we're just haggling over price.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

Cool...

In that particular case of course.  Don't you?  If not, I pity you.

Jer 

→ No pity necessary

You're the one who alluded to the murder of Tiller as an act of moral courage.

All that proves is that you do, on some level, understand it's a matter of ideology.

You believe in murder and treason, given the right set of ideological circumstances.

Now, having embraced both treason and murder as options on ideological grounds, you are required to condemn Roeder based not on the illegality of his actions, but on your ideological belief that Partial-Birth abortions are a good thing.

Others disagree with you.  And I do admit I wished Tiller dead, but I was not nearly as ideologically inclined to action as was Roeder.

My personal hope was that God would take him out.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

That quasi-syllogistic

That quasi-syllogistic horror of a post has to be one of the more excruciating cluttering of non sequitors, nonsensical inferences, and offensively false accusations I've encountered in a very long time.

C'mon Cool, I'm embarrassed for you.

Jer

→ Not to mention

You're reaching into your Tumbler archives to fill the empty space in your blog-balloon with sesquipedalian rant.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

Gosh, I wish I had been

Gosh, I wish I had been around when Tumbler was posting.  He seems to have acheived some sort of perverse iconic status around here.

You've buffaloed me with "sesquipedalian".  Does it relate to "pedantic" or "pedantry"?

Jer

→ Or even pererasty?

No, it just means $10 words.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

That explains it...The

That explains it...

The spending ceiling on my vocabulary is $9.50 per word.

Jer

→ Jer

Apply for a bailout.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

By the way, Cool... There

By the way, Cool...

There have been calls--thankfully few--here at NB for the death of Obama and for the extermination of liberals.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe you have ever condemned them.  Why not?

Jer

→ You're wrong

Not too many minutes ago, I asked "Kennedy Death Watch" if it isn't time he changed his Nickname.

Good try, Jer, but don't point the finger at me.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

So you haven't condemned

So you haven't condemned posts explicitly calling for Obama's death or the extermination of liberals, but rag someone about a nickname which is distasteful but not a death wish?  You'll have to give me a better reason not to point the finger.

Jer

→ No I don't

Now you're flailing, Jer.

I just busted you with an "Oh, by the way, just a few minutes ago . . ."

And you've got egg all over your face now.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

No, I have a whimsical

No, I have a whimsical smile on my face at the comical presumptuousness of your post.

Jer

→ Good one Jer

And you assume I presume, what?

Before you answer, let me clarify "egg on your face" is a figure of speech, not a literal observation.

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

Jer, I honestly have not seen anyone call for the death of

liberals or obama from this site...  I could be wrong...but that would be over the top. 

I personally think liberalism is a mental disorder, but I have never even advocated prison camps for dems like Genine Barfalo has for Republicans.

→ pahuber

He's relying on an all too real suspicion that we don't bookmark such events, and therefore, don't have ready access to examples of such rebuke.

That's why he's so chagrined I had only recently demonstrated the behavior proving him wrong.

His next step is to say "That's not what I'm talking about"

It is kinda funny when a lawyer breaks the first rule of lawyering.

Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to

"The only reason Clarence Thomas is on the court is because he's black". - Joe Biden

"It is nice to have actual morals

Not manipulation of language morals, but actual morals". 

Wilkow just said that, I thought it was fitting?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Dont laugh too hard, Cool...

Don't laugh too hard, Cool...

It's why I attached the introductory words inviting you to "correct me if I'm wrong...."  Just a gentle reminder, you have yet to prove me wrong.  However, I applaud your unease with Kennedy Death Watch's s/n and advising him of such. 

I know that one call for Obama's death had been posted for some time with not a single objection when I noticed it and commented.  When I checked later in the day, there still had been no other objection posted.  I also posted the only objection to one of the posts calling for the extermination of liberals.  I can't believe I'm the only one at NewsBusters who sees them.

Jer

Understood pahuber... I

Understood pahuber...

I believe you, and appreciate your response.

Jer