UPDATE, May 2: ABC’s Political Punch reports that the administration is denying making threats. Uh-huh, Tom Lauria just made it up. My take: Horse manure.
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If the Bush White House had engaged in anything similar to what's being described here (actually, Hank Paulson did; the question is how much Bush knew), there would be calls for impeachment.
Maybe there should be similar talk now. As it is, the establishment media will more than likely work very hard to ignore this.
It should not be ignored. What attorney Tom Lauria describes is nothing short of chilling.
What follows is a rush transcription, omitting the intro and wrap-up niceties, of an interview today between WJR's Frank Beckmann and Tom Lauria, attorney for most of (at the moment) Chrysler's non-TARP creditors (audio is here; NYT link in transcript added by me):
Beckmann: So what's the matter with your vulture clients who are so greedy and selfish. Why won't they go along with this?
Lauria: Well, they bought a contract that says that they get paid before anyone else does by Chrysler. And they have been told by the government who is in complete control of Chrysler, oddly enough, that despite their contractual right, they do not get paid before everyone else.
So they are standing on their rights, standing on the law, trying to defend in effect what is the Constitution of the United States, to make sure that they get what they're entitled to for their investors.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Beckmann: Tom, let me make the argument against you in another way. We've heard the President say this, "I wouldn't want to stand on their side." Ron Gettelfinger says "Everyone else has made concessions. These people won't; they're greedy." Why not take a concession that is being asked of everybody else and is being accepted by everybody else, including other hedge funds that had bought some of these bonds in Chrysler?
Lauria: Well that's a great question, because let me tell you it's no fund standing on this side of the fence opposing the President of the United States. In fact, let me just say, people have asked me who I represent, and that's a moving target.
I can tell you for sure that I represent one less investor today than I represented yesterday. One of my clients was directly threatened by the White House, and in essence compelled to withdraw its opposition to the deal under threat that the full force of the White House press corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight. That's how hard it is to stand on this side of the fence.
Beckmann: Was that Perella Weinberg?
Lauria: That was Perella Weinberg.
Beckmann: All right.
Lauria: Now let me just tell you, to be clear, that we do not oppose the rehabilitation of Chrysler. We think it is vitally important that a company like Chrysler be protected to the extent that it can be within the framework of the law. I want to also say that we do not oppose the government backstopping or supporting the pensioneers and retirees and workers of Chrysler.
I actually think that in a troubled economic time like we're in, that is an appropriate role for the government to perform. What we do oppose, however, is the abuse of the bankruptcy law to coerce first-lien lenders subsidize the rehabilitation of Chrysler or the backstop of the obligations to the pensioneers and retirees beyond what they will do voluntarily.
And just to be clear, these clients of mine have agreed to compromise 50% of their first-lien position to help support the rehabilitation of Chrysler -- Contrary to what the President said yesterday in his new conference that "these people will not give to support the effort," they have agreed to compromise 50% of what they're owed to support the rehabilitation of Chrysler, despite the fact that they're under no obligation whatsoever to do so.
That is what we stand for, and that is what we're going to go to court to fight for.
Beckmann: OK, so they have offered to take 50 cents on the dollar. What are they being offered in return, and how does that compare to what other stakeholders, say the UAW, are going to be receiving?
Lauria: Here's the troubling circumstance here. My clients bought a position in the Chrysler capital structure that entitles them to be paid "first dollars out." That is, they're to be paid 100 cents of what they're owed before any junior creditors get a penny.
The government has offerend them 29 cents on the dollar, in the context of a restructuring of Chrysler that will send over $10 billion of value to junior claims. And when I say $10 (billion), that's a floor. As we're continuing to review the papers that Chrysler has filed in the bankruptcy court, that number may actually be more like $20 billion. So in other words, my clients, who are contractually entitled to 100 cents on the dollar, are being asked to take 29 cents on the dollar, while junior creditors are being offered somewhere between $10-$20 billion of value in the Chrysler rehabilitation.
Now I ask your listeners, what would they do if they were in our position?
Beckmann: Now Tom Lauria, let me cite a New York Times piece, I believe this was yesterday's New York Times. No, it's today's as a matter of fact. And it says about the creditors who are standing firm: "Many of them bought Chrysler debt for about 30 cents on the dollar." So what they're saying is, "Look, they got a discount to begin with. They're getting a good deal here. If they bought it for 30 and they're being offered 29, that's a great deal, better percentagewise than anybody else got."
Lauria: Well, what people need to understand, first of all, that that is only speculation. There are people who bought this debt at par in my group, there are people who bought this at 70 cents, there are people who bought it at other prices. But what people really need to understand is that the people who bought this debt are pensioneers, teachers' credit unions, personal retiree accounts, retirement plans, college endowments. That's who my clients act as fiduciaries for. And they make all kinds of investments. And as you can imagine in this economy, there are numerous of those investments that have gone bad.
This was an investment that people made based on their assessment of the assets of Chrysler, and the view that this was a very secure, very safe investment. And they bought a contract that said they would get a very low rate of return in exchange for that high level of security. So the argument about what they paid for their investment really is irrelevant.
The fact of the matter is they bought a contract that said "you're first in line, and in exchange for that you're going to get a very low rate of return." And I think everybody in this country should be concerned about the fact that the President of the United States, the executive office, is using its power to try to abrogate that contractual right. If the President will attack that contractual right, what right will it not attack?
Beckmann: You made a comment to me before we went on the air about the significance of this case as it relates to the Constitution. I'd like you to explain that to my audience.
Lauria: Well, look, there are kind of two aspects to that. The first is the right to property and the right to contract are kind of sacronsanct in this country. I think everybody understands that when you make a deal it's supposed to be honored, and if it's not honored you're supposed to be able to get protection in court. And what is happening here, through the force of the United States government, and that's what's disturbing about this -- I mean, private parties have contract disputes all the time -- but for the United States Government to step in, the Executive Office of the United States Government, who under the Constitution is charged with enforcing the laws to step in and try to in effect break the laws, I think we should all be concerned about that. That is a constitutional issue.
OK, number one. Number two, realize that our Constitution is premised on the notion that there is a balance between the three branches of government: the executive, the legislature, and the judiciary.
And what's going to be happening, in fact I'm going to have to go here, because I'm heading down to the bankruptcy court to start taking on this battle, which is of epic proportions. But what is going on here is you've got the executive branch coming into the judicial branch. And I think it is really important for the Constitution of the United States that people understand that the judicial branch can stand independent and interpret and apply the laws as it's required to do under the Constitution in the face of intense pressure from the Executive branch to do otherwise.
Beckmann: Tom Lauria, really appreciate it. Final question, will Oppenheimer Funds and Stairway Capital, your other two clients in this, are they committed to standing firm? I've got to believe they're facing the same pressure Perella Weinberg did before it changed its mind and said "Okay, we'll go along now."
Lauria: Well they are today, but the Executive Office hasn't called them yet and made threats to them. So, maybe by tomorrow I won't have any clients, and maybe this fight will be over.
Isn't stealing $10-$20 billion under threat of ruin a "high crime"?
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters




















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Just Wow!
May 1, 2009 - 16:12 ET by dark_dsJust Wow! Obama throws his full might at US citizens but stands like a statue while Tyrants rip our country before his face.
_______ Him and the Unicorn he rode in on
Rules? I Don't need no stinkin Rules
May 1, 2009 - 17:29 ET by Big WallyJust a preview of what will happen in 2010 and beyond if he is still in control of both houses. See Reparations!
Folks we are in trouble "Mark Levin"
I can tell you for sure
May 1, 2009 - 16:15 ET by dscottI can tell you for sure that I represent one less investor today than I
represented yesterday. One of my clients was directly threatened by the
White House, and in essence compelled to withdraw its opposition to the
deal under threat that the full force of the White House press corps
would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight.
Sounds like extortion to me.
Extortion, outwresting, or exaction is a criminal
offense, which occurs when a person either unlawfully obtains money,
property or services from a person, entity, or institution through
coercion or intimidation or threatens a person, entity, or institution
with physical or reputational harm unless he or she is paid money or
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called protection. Extortion is commonly practiced by organized
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lawsuit which refers to a requirement of a payment of money or property to halt future violence or lawsuit is sufficient to commit the offense.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Chicago Politics as Usual
May 1, 2009 - 16:34 ET by nofateSounds like the mob has made it into the white house. This is scary.
Question: I keep hearing they are going after 401k's and Roths. Anyone have anything on that, and what can a person do to protect themselves without withdrawing it early, suffering the substantial penalties, and putting it under a mattress or in gold coins?
"The future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."
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nofate
May 1, 2009 - 19:50 ET by Par for the CourseI saw an article, back in October, about how George Miller and Jim McDermott were looking at abolishing 401(k) tax breaks. I haven't seen anything since.
Par
May 2, 2009 - 01:29 ET by nofateThanks for the link. I haven't heard much since last year either. I'm just "concerned" about how it would be implemented, and if they would force us to hand over all our savings or give us the "opt out" option???
Update: After reading the article again, the relevant points, for someone like me, are:
So, for now, they are not going to take away my current 401K or Roth funds, but in the future, if this stands the way it is proposed, we will be forced to "contribute" 5% !!! to a fund administered by the freaking Social Security Administration!!! Good, God!
Thanks again for putting my mind at ease, Par ;-)
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I think
May 1, 2009 - 16:21 ET by katainkentthis was posted in the forums earlier.... I listened to it with my jaw dropped catching flies.
I love to help the helpless but I'm not gonna help the clueless ~Dennis Miller
Huh?
May 1, 2009 - 16:24 ET by Willis_Leon_Johnsonthis is a 'news' critter?
" Beckman: So what's the matter with your vulture clients who are so greedy and selfish. Why won't they go along with this? "
Mostly because the clients being represented are 401k retirement accounts held by millions of Americans all across the nation and it is the 'president' that has declaaerd himself dictator over all he can see.
No politican has the power to grab control of privately owned businesses and demand their CEOs resign, and/or declare bankruptcy.
That is the sole responsibilty of the private owners through their voice on the board of directors or other PRIVATE heiarchy put in place by the PRIVATE OWNERS.
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Beckmann was being sarcastic
May 2, 2009 - 09:57 ET by Tom BlumerThat obviously doesn't come through in the transcript.
Hillary: We'll take your
May 1, 2009 - 17:30 ET by Dan The Man 2Hillary: We'll take your money for 'common good'
WIBDI
May 1, 2009 - 17:47 ET by BKeyserThe new standard by which the MSM should measure Obama should be: WIBDI (pronounced wib-dy) "What if Bush Did It?"
If no one else has put that acronym to use yet, I'm coining it...
we are in deep constitutional trouble
May 1, 2009 - 19:00 ET by PaarlI lived in in Africa and the Middle east for many years.....in those countries the constitution meant very little. We are learning the wrong lessons from the wrong people. Seems Obama is very very Kenyan.
Who will stand up ?? Obama is operating under the correct assumption (unfortuneately) that people who are comfortable will not struggle for their freedom even in the face of very overt attacks on their liberty
Paarl of Rhodesia
Paarl... You said it
May 1, 2009 - 19:06 ET by bigtimerPaarl...
You said it all...and you are dead on right.
I feel the Tea Parties will grow in numbers...anger is out here...I just hope it is enough, I can't wait until the 4th of July.
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Paarl: And the libs
May 1, 2009 - 19:06 ET by QueenMumPaarl: And the libs constantly complained during the Bush administration that he was infringing on their liberties. Yet most couldn't give a single example of liberties lost. Thank you for your perspective.
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we knew it was coming
May 1, 2009 - 20:45 ET by seesalrunpost this - all readers, I just did on hotair. Link it post it. It's a genetic leftist mutation of what got us in this trouble in the first place...and far more dangerous. I would go on but am fearful. I read this and wept...for my Country.
I heard about this on Levin today
May 1, 2009 - 23:39 ET by general companyDont weep for your country, get mad and tell your Reps how you feel, all day every day. Tell your friends, neighbors , family. Please dont weep, we dont have the luxury of that kind of time. We need you to work, not weep.
You are not alone!!
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Eminent Domain - By another Name
May 1, 2009 - 22:42 ET by bpjamObama is just applying the Kelo decision to non-real estate. The massive expansion of government rights under Kelo and the diminution of citizen rights was scary enough. But that was about local city bureaucrats seizing a piece of land here and there.
Now we have a Chavez like Chief Executive who is targeting the largest industries in America and even forcing them to accept 'bailouts' in exchange for their corporate soul or He just threatens to ruin them or legislate them out of business if they don't turn over the reins to friends of His or support His policy goals.
Obama just seized Chrysler (GM is next) and told the existing owners (the bondholders and Board) that he is giving their ownership over to the UAW and later Fiat. Can you imagine how fun that must be to have the guy on TV order you to hand over your retirement funds to a bunch of union thugs who are busy driving Chrysler into the ground? Oh, and the He orders the company to make the kind of cars that He wants even though there is no evidence at all that the market has any interest in those cars.
Any company in the energy industry looking forward to the next year or so in America under Comandante Obama? Hell, No! They are all going to be blackmailed, extorted or simply strong-armed into either capitulating to His whims, handing over their company to 'appropriate' managers or simply agreeing to go out of business. Undoubtedly, 'to save the planet' (and socialism).
If you aren't terrified, you aren't paying attention.
What's really slick about
May 1, 2009 - 23:05 ET by RESTLESS 1What's really slick about handing Chrysler and later GM over to the UAW, is that the UAW will be negotiating with itself re. wages and bennies.
Imagine, the UAW goes to Ford and demands that they accept the deal that Chrysler and GM, (controlled by the UAW remember, negotiated with themselves), agreed to or they will strike. What is Ford to do, say no, endure a strike and have Chrysler and GM, (the UAW), be the only ones maufacturing autos, or accept unreasonable demands by the union?
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I wonder where all the trolls are
May 1, 2009 - 22:59 ET by RESTLESS 1Surely they should be here defending this by now???
Now maybe the population will realize what we meant when we said that "95% would get a tax cut" was a lie. Yeah, $13.00 a week ought to really make up for our retirement accounts vanishing due to the 0's malevolent socialism. Take from us to give to the UAW.
Sorry, but this is complete and utter bullshit the 0 is pulling here.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I was on the phone with Rahm
May 1, 2009 - 23:07 ET by JerI was on the phone with Rahm asking how in the hell I was going to explain this.
Jer
LOL Jer
May 1, 2009 - 23:11 ET by RESTLESS 1but you know I wasn't talking about you. Good luck to you and Rahmbo on that explanation though.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
All he said was to turn to
May 1, 2009 - 23:13 ET by JerAll he said was to turn to page 134 in the Bullshit Manual.
Jer
Careful Jer
May 1, 2009 - 23:28 ET by RESTLESS 1I do believe page 134 is the one on throwing yourself under the bus to save the 0 the time.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Quiet Troll
May 1, 2009 - 23:30 ET by PopularTechEnough with your troll senses of humor. Don't you have some trolling to do?
Obama: "Cap & Trade Will Cause Electricity Rates To Skyrocket"
Staying under the bridge tonight, Pop.
May 2, 2009 - 00:38 ET by JerStaying under the bridge tonight, Pop. I took a quick peek over the railing and bretzysdude was driving back and forth in the pa-troll-mobile. He was wearing night vision goggles and looked really mean.
Jer
Other people's money paying Obama's debts
May 2, 2009 - 04:17 ET by snaggletoothieObama is using private invester's money and taxpayer money to pay off the union for election contributions and volunteers.
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This kind of behavior from The Great One will slow investment to a crawl, keep the credit market from rebounding and greatly add to unemployment. Is this Obama's intention? Or does he just not give a damn?