Still not addressed in Obammy's push for government care is the illegal alien question. The oft-quoted '47 million uninsured' figure includes 15-20 million illegals. Obammy intends to cover them. 

Illegal aliens are also going to be covered by any 'cramdown' program or mortgage relief process.

This is one of the the main reasons Obammy wants to push through his liberal wishlist programs without review, taking advantage of a crisis. Through his negligence or incompetence (not sure which it is) he prolongs the crisis in order to convince the naive of the need for his programs. 

Obammy is a shameless huckster con-man.

In other countries.

Let's say for example, some guy from Toronto, gets in a car accident and has his left leg crushed. A team of surgeons keep him in a medically induced coma for 24 hrs while they map out a plan to save his leg. Then they operate and 5 months later the man can walk again. 

But NewsBusters would never report that story would they..because it's CANADA.

I wouldn't assume that physicians in countries with socialized medicine would be any less competent than those in the U.S....that wouldn't be fair nor logical.

However, it seems that the greatest advancements in medicine have come out of pre-socialized Europe and the U.S., that is, under a capitalist system along with a reasonable amount of Federal support.  We historically have not had a problem with the State subsidizing universities or hospitals, so why now?  That system seems to have worked very well.

The problem is with the insurance companies and the costs that hospitals charge for procedures.  From what I've heard, many physicians feel that they aren't getting paid what they should.  So where's that money going?

Part of the problem is the privatization of medical care.  Many (most?) of these health care companies have stockholders to answer to, buy up hospitals, etc.  I think hospitals should be community-owned just as schools, fire/police departments, etc.  It should still fall upon the individual to pay, but the profit motive has drastically increased the charges for care.

Also, health insurance should be for severe injuries and hospital stays, not for more routine care and prescriptions.

Prescriptions wouldn't be so pricey if there was true free market competition.  The Republicans acted like RINOs on that one, but I smell corruption in the way of lobbying/campaign contributions on the Canadian pharmaceuticals matter.

Some things do better with government support, while other things are best left to the private sector.  Seems that both sides gravitate to extremes.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Why would any regular reader of NB find it surprising that the American mainstream, ahem, news media would not report on the bad aspects of nationalized health care systems elsewhere? This is the very same news media that Bernie Goldberg writes so eloquently about in his book, A Slobbering Love Affair.

Also, nationalized health care is not about emergency care. It is about the aspects of health care that affect quality of life. These are and will the remain the areas that national health care administrators will target for rationing of services to contain costs.

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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price. - Ronald Reagan from his first inaugural address