Kudlow, Santelli Push Back Hard at Mortgage-Mod Program, Harder at Gibbs

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KudlowAndSantelli0209.jpgAdvantage Rick Santelli -- and Larry Kudlow.

CNBC reporter Santelli's Thursday morning "Shout Heard Round the World" (CNBC's term) objecting to the Obama administration's mortgage modification program on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange quickly went viral, and struck two nerves. First, it ignited a groundswell of support from the over 90% of the of the nation that pays its bills and plays by the (normal) rules. The other nerve it struck was at the White House, whose spokesman Robert Gibbs struck back with a level of poorly concealed fury and contempt that I don't think I've seen publicly displayed by any other administration in my lifetime.

Larry Kudlow had Santelli as a guest on CNBC's Kudlow Report Friday night (CNBC video here; YouTube here [HT Scott's Slant]).  As one would fully expect by this time, Santelli made a few huge, emotionally-charged points of his own. The gratifying stunner is Kudlow's passion in the final third of the interview, where he sounded the alarm over freedom of the press, basic respect, and bullying.

Looking around the web, at least at this point, this interview has gained relatively little exposure, leaving the distinct and incorrect impression that Gibbs has the rhetorical upper hand.

No way. The CNBC pair of Santelli and Kudlow has the White House on its heels. Common-sense, passionate, principled assertions rooted in truth will tend to do that. Here's the full transcript (bolds are mine):

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Kudlow: With us now to discuss this blistering attack is our Rick Santelli.

Hang on, Rick, for one second. Mr. Gibbs had some more to say. I want you to listen to this, and then we're going to get your comments.

Gibbs (from earlier in the day): This is a copy of the President's home affordability plan (check out the background chuckle, as someone apparently think Gibbs is about to put Santelli in his place. In your dreams. -- Ed.). It's available on the White House web site, and I would encourage him (to) download it. Hit print, and begin to read it.

Kudlow: All right, "Download it, hit print, and begin to read it." Rick, this is one of the worst attacks I've ever seen on the media from the president or the White House or the press secretary. It reminds me of Papa Bush attacking Dan Rather. It reminds me of Richard Nixon's blistering attacks on members of the press he didn't like. I don't like this one bit. First up, my friend, have you read the mortgage documents, the mortgage plan documents, because they're saying you didn't.

Santelli: Of course I did, Larry. I though it was a one-page thing he (Gibbs) held up. (Looks that way to me -- Ed.).

(Santelli holds up what is apparently the full plan.)

We all heard the President when he did this live on CNBC. Of course we saw it. And you know what, if you listen to my rant, Larry, did I talk to any points in here that were unjust?

Let's just look at a few of these. Y'know, Mr. Gibbs, I will tell you this, the one point Larry and I don't like right from the beginning is loan modifications through bankruptcy judges. Now, you really want to get particular? They said I don't know what I'm talking about, and I think the notion is that we aren't really paying for other people's mortgages. Where does he think these thousand dollars are coming from to pay the services? Why should we pay those banks? They should be taking care of it themselves.

You know, this money is coming from somewhere. And if they're going to lower the interest rates on some, they should lower it for everybody, or they should give everybody a check. You know what Larry? The 92% of the Americans that are paying their loan on time, do you think there's no pain there? These people are probably cutting back, their 401(k)s are down. It's tough. Just because they're making their payment and they're current, doesn't mean they're not cutting back as well.

We need to be American about this. A card laid is a card played. Do we want to inundate our kids with that? But more than that, do we want to teach our children that you can get out of a mistake and that there are do-overs? I just don't think that's American, and I read it, and guess what? (tears up papers and throws them in the air) I still don't like it!

Kudlow: Rick Santelli, there is a populist revolt against this mortgage plan, precisely for the reasons that you have articulated this evening, and of course yesterday. You see it everywhere. You see it in the media everywhere.

Santelli: You know, I've ranted for years. Anybody who's seen CNBC knows I'm impassioned about anything. You'll ever see anybody get more excited about CPI than Rick Santelli. Why is this rant over the last 14 years such a big deal or different than the others? Because we hit a nerve. And the reason he (Gibbs) had the nice smile on his face and he was so kind to me, is because he is protesting too much. He sees the pluralist come back. He sees the web sites, he sees the hits, and maybe they didn't expect it, and I'm not saying I'm right. But at the end of the day, call me any names that you want, but the fact of the matter is, everybody is talking about it, studying it, and looking at it more. And in my opinion, if I helped do that even one-tenth of 1%, I'm happy, and I can take it. And if we're going to be on the Today Show together, I'll drink decaf, but I have a feeling that you ought to drink caffeinated.

Kudlow: Well, I'll just tell you this, of course I agree with virtually everything you said. I've made the same points. But Rick, I want to go into this. This is an unprecedented White House assault on a member of the press, a member of the media in good standing.

Santelli: Free speech as well.

Kudlow: You've been doing this stuff for years. And as I said earlier, I can't recall anything like this. In some respects, this is worse than the Nixon attacks on Dan Rather, or I remember the Papa Bush's attacks on CBS's Dan Rather. Now there's an issue here, there's a freedom of the press issue. There's also a respect issue. There's also a bullying issue, Rick Santelli. I wanna know, do you want to take Gibbs up on having a cup of coffee? Do you feel that the White House has the right to start bullying members? It could be you today, it could be me tomorrow, it could be somebody on Fox News, it could be NBC News. It could be anybody. Does this mean this is how this White House and the Obama Presidency is going react to criticism from the media? Is this, is this a signal of things to come with the worst press relations we've seen in our lifetime?

Santelli: Well I certainly hope not. And if he's inviting me to Washington, I certainly out of respect for the presidential administration, whom I want to succeed as badly as any of the other 300 million Americans, not only will I show up, but my favorite movie is "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington," and Rick is going to be on his way.

Kudlow: All right, terrific stuff. Rick Santelli, have a great weekend. You've earned it.

Santelli: Thanks, buddy.

A few follow-up thoughts:

  • Kudlow must have missed the 1990s, when the Clinton Adminstration sicced IRS auditors on political opponents, including Joe Farah's Western Journalism Center.
  • Bush 41 and Nixon went after Rather themselves, rather than leaving it to a surrogate to do their dirty work.
  • Kudlow has it very wrong about Bush 41 and Dan Rather. Bush 41's 1988 takedown of Rather was in response to pre-planned bullying ambush from an incredibly boorish Rather, as this retrospective look last year by Rich Noyes at NewsBusters clearly shows (interview transcript is here).

In the brief item that accompanies the video at the CNBC link, Santelli says that "This is an issue of discourse on a topic that affects the foundation and principles that make our country great..... free speech, contract law, freedom of the press, and most of all the legacy we leave our children and grandchildren." This morning, RedState notes yet another example ("Democrats to Railroad Through Another Super Secret Massive Spending Bill") of the White House's and congressional leadership's plans to ram through major legislation at light speed without giving lawmakers a chance to even read it, let alone have "discourse" about it.

With all due respect to Rick Santelli, it's reasonable to believe that "discourse" is the last thing they want.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters


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I said in another thread on

I said in another thread on this that I would love for Obama to declare a moratorium on foreclosures, we could use a 6-month break from paying our mortgage!

People here who know me, know that my husband suffered a cerebral aneurysm.  He is now permanently disabled.  Luckily, he had LTD from his employer, and now receives SSDI.

And you know what?  We have continued to pay our mortgage!!!

Gee, I wish I had known a year ago that the way to get relief was to default!!  

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

motherbelt

All the best to you and your husband.  That is a rough one.  After spending years working in critical care, I know.  Prayers for his progress and your strength.  God bless you (and may your mortgage payment always be there for you). 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Right there with you, Motherbelt...

I'm right there with you, Motherbelt.

Responsible citizens are being squeezed from every direction and what do we do... we tighten our belts and work with what we've got.

You and you husband will be in my prayers.

Hoorah for Santelli!

I hope if he does go to speak to Gibbs he isn't lured into some kind of trap, like RINO Specter being invited to the White House for Super Bowl. Whether the thug-in-chief and his band of thugs care (which I seriously doubt), this will be a wasted trip. Stick to your principles Santelli.

Motherbelt: Sorry about your husband.

Godspeed, Santelli and Kudlow.

It is extremely rare that I say this for media folks, but I wish Godspeed for Santelli and Kudlow.

Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.

minor point

As a minor correction to your transcript, he said "a card laid is a card played", not a card late is a card late. Its an old bridge (or card game) term meaning you can't put it on the table and then say 'whoops I want it back'.

Thanks ...

.... corrected.

I thought sure he said "late," which made me think he sort of misspoke. Thanks for catching that.

NOw on to bidness

I'm one of the 92% of suckers who pay my bills on time. Cut back? I've seen my 401k fall 40% in the last year, and Comrade Glorious Supreme Leader Obama, through his doom-and-gloom message is pushing the markets ever lower every day. To those fools that voted for this idiot, thanks a bunch. Your plan to redistribute the wealth is right on track.

Let The Games Begin!!!

I'm getting the feeling that the Affirmative Action Hero has received very little crticism in his lifetime and he doesn't handle it well.

BHO appears to be a product of his social environment. Like the New Yorker who exclaimed, "I don't know how Bush won, I don't know anybody that voted for him," BHO only knows what those closest to him have told him. Unfortunately, he's hung out with communists, (Franklin Davis) Marxists, (William Ayers) and hate mongers (Rev. Wright) his whole life and he admits it in his book.

BHO isn't trying to fix the housing problem. He's trying to provide low cost/no cost housing for the lower class whether they've earned it or not. It's part of the "spread the wealth" program that he related to Plumber Joe. It's all part of the "Socialist Utopian Vision" he sees in his head.

Flyingmonkey...

I hope others read this effectively blistering commentary on Mr. Obama.  This guy IS a Socialist!  Wake up, America!  Be prepared for the worst!

"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets."  Me.

As obnoxious and

As obnoxious and ill-informed as that arrogant mouthpiece Gibbs is, it's truly scary that Obama was able to use a few of his propaganda goons, Brian Williams and Matt Lauer, to try and bully Santelli from the inside.  Williams asked the dumbest, most disingenuous question when he made the specious claim that the current ACORN deadbeats were tricked into buying homes they couldn't afford by being told that it was "their patriotic duty" to do so!  That's not just blatant hyperbole, that's breathtaking dishonesty and journalistic malpractice.  The economic illiterate Matt Lauer then tried to suggest that Santelli was out of line because this legalized theft was the kind of "sacrifice" all Americans had endorsed...hinting that only overpaid media hacks like himself were the ones that would be accepting the "sacrifice", and that it wasn't much of a sacrifice to begin with.  These dirtbags and that bald nobody from CNBC were speaking to their supposed colleague with the utmost contempt.  The references to "decaf" were dripping with smug sarcasm...but Santelli stood his ground and treated them with the kind of respect that they denied him.  Frankly, Williams, Lauer and Chris Matthews remind me of those mincing fops in Amadeus awaiting reaction from the emperor before deciding whether they enjoyed the performance or not.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Motherbelt

Motherbelt...God bless you and your husband I hope everything is going well for you.  Stay strong.

Is there a website for the Chicago Tea Party?

Most of my dumb Obama loving neighbors do not even realize that the Big O is already redistributing their money.  401k's are cut in half and will be cut in half again by these spending programs.  Todays dollars will be worth half when the dollar is devalued because of the obscene spending.  They do not get it.  He may not be taxing them more yet but he is just going to spend into oblivian to the poor which will make everyone retirement savings value half of what it is now.

Chicago Tea Party website

Chicago Tea Party website is:

http://www.officialc...

 

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

When I hear that poor borrowers

were misled and "forced" to tkae out loans they couldn't afford, I wonder how many of them were also "forced" to refinance and pull out equity they really didn't have to buy things they really couldn't afford. 

Too many people treated their homes like piggybanks - no wonder they're now upsidedown in their loans.

Only the Beginning

Thanks for the pointer to my blog Tom.

My fear with what is going on is that this is only the beginning. Obama and his liberal buddies saw how easy this was to pass, what is next?

Obama has weakened our national security (GITMO, interrogation techniques, the charges against Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri). However, if you remember Biden during the campaign, said multiple times we would be facing an international crisis. So what is behind making us weaker while at the same time making us more dependant upon the government?

This is scary.

Scott from the aforementioned Scott's Slant

Thanks to those who

Thanks to those who expressed good wishes.

Things are going well; he is actually doing better than we thought.

 

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

Santelli struck THE nerve

I saw it live and it reinforced how on RARE occasion, live TV
can truly present that special moment that takes on a life of its own.
And Santelli is right, the people being rewarded are the ones who pushed the bubble of massively inflated home prices thru the proverbial roof!  Builders were charging ridiculous prices because of the fradulent demand.

It is the next 10-15% of homeowners, who had the proper resources to honestly purchase their home---now find themselves with a mortgage 50-100,000 MORE than the value of their home.
Why is the White House surprised at the blowback?

once again, the sun shines on the snakes

and they do not like it. we were told these were very qualified for their jobs. what a joke.gibbs is puppet and a dumb one.

if you do not agree, the KGB shows up at your door

 

comrade BHO hates America's achievers

 

 

 

Renters who didn't grab one of those mortgages need a break, too

Give me a break.

Renters who didn't grab one of those "special" mortgages for themselves, will now be paying the mortgages of people who should have remained renters.

I owned a house in the past. I don't mind paying rent for one now.

But I DO mind being forced to pay OTHER people's mortgages.

 

 

Obama's ONLY talent is money shuffling

All his adult life he's been the middleman, the money changer at the temple.

He pretends he is performing a public service for all of us, but he really enriches his pet people in his clique.

Obama is the money changer at the temple

http://www.youtube.c...

Looking around the web, at

Looking around the web, at least at this point, this interview has gained relatively little exposure, leaving the distinct and incorrect impression that Gibbs has the rhetorical upper hand.

Perception of the masses is the name of the game.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Gibbs’…

smarmy, disingenuous reply typifies the essentially phony nature of this administration.

His impassioned plea supporting “The Plan” mentions some of the criteria they will employ to determine whos' mortgages might qualify for modification, but no mention of who will do it, how fairness will be assured or…how much it will cost.

Hmmm, just what we need, another government program primed for abuse; suppose they’ll just let Fannie/Freddie handle the details.  

“This plan will help millions of Americans…”, well duh! No consideration given to the poor saps who hand over the money that enables their benevolence, or to the fact that, just like the CRT, this plan is basically another kick in the shins to free-market capitalism.

Is the duct tape habit hard to manage?

O and crew will not

O and crew will not tolerate criticism of any kind...just ask Joe the Plumber.

The team will do anything to search, destroy and silence....

We thought the Clinton Duo was bad...we ain't seen nothing yet...especailly with Holder in the Justice Dept...along with the other pure leftist minions he has picked to work with Holder.

Rest Easy

The Magnificent and Beneficient O and his minion Holder will only go after the cowards.  As they define them.  I don't know about you, but that makes me feel so much better ;-) 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Irony

I found it hilarious that Gibbs implied that Santelli drinks too much coffee. A few cups of espresso before his press conferences might wake Gibbs the h up and save his job.

This is a great New York Post article everyone should read, which I posted last night as well -The Foreclosure Five:

http://www.nypost.co...

 Keep hit the white house

 Keep hit the white house with facts, it's only a matter of time before Gibbs throw a tantrum on national TV.

Gibbs is, hands-down, one

Gibbs is, hands-down, one of the worst WH spokespersons in my memory. Talk about flop-sweat!

He uses the old leftist tactic--attack the character of the accuser, rather than respond to the question. Old stuff and everyone sees through it.

Gibbs is so awful at this job, it's almost funny. And I am sure he thinks he is doing a great job. Obama told him so.

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to
public office
--Aesop (~550 BC)

Does Obama care about Gibbs?

We don't know how Obammy thinks; it may be that he knows how bad Gibbs is and doesn't care. Perhaps he sees Gibbs and the WHP conferences as simply a way to keep the media busy and out of his hair. Then, when he sails in to save the day and give a speech or a press conference, he looks even better. The ever-compliant press is more than willing to judge Gibbs as an individual, and not a reflection of his boss. Until this changes, we are stuck with Gibbs.

Consider how Obama would look giving his speeches and press conferences if the WHPS were someone as gifted as Snow.

Gawd...if The One is so

Gawd...if The One is so thin-skinned regarding Ohio plumbers, talk show hosts and a very few others questioning his policies, how in the heck can he handle Putin, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, etc.?

Of course, I already know the answer...he can't.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Kudlow's Blogspot.

Tom:

Kudlow posted your thread on his blogspot.

http://kudlowsmoneypolitics.blogspot.com/2009/02/advantage-rick-santelli-and-larry.html