Harvard Scientist: Google Searches, Twitter, Second Life Are Major Carbon Offenders

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Update, Jan. 12: Debunked, per Anatreptic, which leaves questions as to the motivation of Alex Wissner-Gross.

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Are we witnessing the beginning of the demonization of Google?

The Internet search and service behemoth's reputation has largely survived co-operating with censorship in mainland China and inconsistent YouTube censorship that seems to lean towards protecting terrorists' feelings (background here and here).

But will it survive being labeled a major source of CO2 "pollution"?

We may soon find out. As reported in the UK Times Online, a Harvard scientist claims to have estimated the so-called carbon footprint of Google searches -- and it's not small. During the course of their article, reporters Jonathan Leake and Richard Woods use language the press usually reserves for conservatives and "evil" businesspersons:

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Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.

While millions of people tap into Google without considering the environment, a typical search generates about 7g of CO2 Boiling a kettle generates about 15g. “Google operates huge data centres around the world that consume a great deal of power,” said Alex Wissner-Gross, a Harvard University physicist whose research on the environmental impact of computing is due out soon. “A Google search has a definite environmental impact.”

Google is secretive about its energy consumption and carbon footprint. It also refuses to divulge the locations of its data centres. However, with more than 200m internet searches estimated globally daily, the electricity consumption and greenhouse gas emissions caused by computers and the internet is provoking concern. A recent report by Gartner, the industry analysts, said the global IT industry generated as much greenhouse gas as the world’s airlines - about 2% of global CO2 emissions.

..... Though Google says it is in the forefront of green computing, its search engine generates high levels of CO2 because of the way it operates. When you type in a Google search for, say, “energy saving tips”, your request doesn’t go to just one server. It goes to several competing against each other.

It may even be sent to servers thousands of miles apart. Google’s infrastructure sends you data from whichever produces the answer fastest. The system minimises delays but raises energy consumption. Google has servers in the US, Europe, Japan and China.

Wissner-Gross has submitted his research for publication by the US Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers and has also set up a website www.CO2stats.com. “Google are very efficient but their primary concern is to make searches fast and that means they have a lot of extra capacity that burns energy,” he said.

Well, how dare Google serve their users by making searches faster? Don't they realize they're killing the planet?

Enough of this, and you might see the fastest U-turn from political climate correctness in corporate history.

 

Oh, and all you Twitterers and Second Lifers out there, don't get complacent. You're not off the hook either. In fact, the reporters would appear to be sympathetic, if given enough power, to restricting how new tools such as these are used:

(Expert on data centres at the British Computer Society Liam) Newcombe cites Second Life and Twitter, a rapidly growing website whose 3m users post millions of messages a month. Last week Stephen Fry, the TV presenter, was posting “tweets” from New Zealand, imparting such vital information as “Arrived in Queenstown. Hurrah. Full of bungy jumping and ‘activewear’ shops”, and “Honestly. NZ weather makes UK look stable and clement”.

..... Such internet phenomena are not simply fun and hot air, Newcombe warns: the boom in such services has a carbon cost.

So I guess we must restrict them. Zheesh.

One frustrated article commenter, a "John Scott" claiming to be from Atlanta, summed things up nicely:

I call for a moratorium on publishing articles like this one. The amount of CO2 generated when my head starts to steam is much higher than a Google search. Multiply that by the millions of sane people who agree with me that GW (global warming) is a crock and GW might actually come true.

("Evil" image was obtained from Velleities.net, which says it obtained the image from a Swedish blog.)

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

 

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters


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Everybody back away from your keyboards and we can reverse Global Warming.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

More stupidity on the AGW front

That plasma monster's gotta go.

Same stupidity they're trying to ram though out on the left coast.

The comments on the link are kinda cute, tho.

 

→ Dag nabbit Blonde

I haven't even bought one yet and they're getting banned in Britain and I haven't even moved to Britain yet.

My life is so diminished by the Brits that I'm considering a lawsuit.

I was going to google "lawyers" but I keep seeing that momma polar bear and her cub huddled on an ice cube waiting to drown.

What can I do?

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Buy your plasma now!

Great buys at Costco....twofers, actually.

They may be LCD's, but whatever.

P.S.  Polar bears can swim!!!

 

→ Endangered Polar Bears

Wonder how the seals feel about us protecting their predators.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

OK I calculated

OK I calculated that the energy consumed and the carbon footprint created by, Alex Wissner-Gross creating this study was enough to melt 188,000 metric tons of artic ice.

That means that 32 polar bears and 13.75 bear cubs are on ice islands and in grave danger of perishing. The penguins and seals are praying for their demise.

Seals and penguins are obviously right-wing extremist Christian conservatives. You can expect to see hate articles in the old media soon.

Coco

LOL! Now that's funny! Damn them pesky penguins with their waddling all around getting snarfed up by the oh so tolerant leopard seals! Dammit! I need coffee... bad! 

 

Gary

 

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

Good morning Rukus

What I haven't figured out yet is how the .25 bear cub will be able to survive. I need to make another pot of coffee too. I have no idea how much pollution that will cause.

→ coco

Inasmuch as penguins are not indigenous to the Arctic, I'll assume they illegally immigrated to do the jobs seals just won't do.

We're seeing a similar problem in the Antarctic with Bi-Polar Bears.

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Good morning Cool

I should have figured they were wetbacks. That throws everything off kilter. Now I'll have to start all over.

Energy Sucking Pig

Warning: Don't google Al Gore + carbon consumption or else you might wind up with a blue screen.

Only if you install the

Only if you install the google toolbar

Better yet don't use Google

-------------------------------------------

Google and Apple officially fought traditional marriage: .  Please Boycott them.  A Boycott changed McDonald's mind.

Already on it

When I found out about their opposition to Prop 8 I switched to Ask.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

I was listening to a

I was listening to a program on "Climate Change" broadcast from Radio Netherland yesterday. A guest research scientist actually said on air that CO2 was a "poison" to all plants and that we must immediately reduce CO2 emissions or else the sea would rise to flood all of the Netherlands by 2020.

Good grief. One doesn't know where to begin deconstructing this mess. Has teaching real science somehow become a crime in Europe?

Now Googling will drown us all very soon, apparently.

For liberal Democrats and the MSM, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.

Good evening Pop

If CO2 was a pollutant, the only logical solution for global warming alarmists would be to destroy all life on the planet.

Stupidity of the Environmentalists

Maybe we should send them to a planet with no Carbon Dioxide (thus no life), they are literally this stupid.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

Logical solution

Logical solution to all of their problems and worries. It would also get them out of our universe.

It's the carbon cycle stupid.

   Climate change will boost farm output.

   Absolutely Mr. Poptech. I have been saying this before. We are doing ourselves the biggest favor by taking carbon out of the ground and putting it in the air. The bigger the population of the planet grows, the more people will be around to use carbon fuels and put carbon into the air. The more carbon gets put into the air, the more plants will grow and feed the growing population.

  It is absolute insanity to insist carbon based fuels should be cut back. INSANITY.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Giggle

Most old hippie indoor farmers know thatCO2 is you friend

This study is badly flawed.

This study is badly flawed. It failed to include the energy consumed driving to the library and the heat generated walking from the parking lot. The return trips were also not considered.

The savings of paper and pencils are considerable. The trees appreciate this.

Why would you be driving

Why would you be driving anywhere? To protect the environment you need to reject civilization. Just curl up and die if you can't live on what you grow with natural fertilizer and rain water in your community vegetable garden.

And no cutting down trees to make fire or clear land. Both release CO2.

Driving is less abusive to the environment

Driving is less abusive to the environment than walking.

Walking requires wearing footwear and that means the use of plastics and leather. Plastics are verbotten and leather requires the raising and killing of animals - also verbotten.

The energy consumed by walking also must be replaced and requires the additional consumption of food. Food production requires farming. Modern farming is very detrimental to the environment and should be eliminated

All life on this planet should be eliminated because we all emit carbon dioxide which is destroying us. Therefore we must destroy ourselves to save ourselves

I hope you understand this because I don't. Maybe someone can explain it to me.

Thanks Coco

I was just fixin' to step off the chair, with the noose around my neck, tied to an incandescent bulb, when I read your post. You saved me bro! I decided to screw it and just live my life and to hell with the EU!!! I'd walk to work but it's too far and my being a southern boy, well, I'm too damn lazy.  Hope you're having a blessed and good (I repeat myself) New Year good friend.

 

 

 

Gary

 

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

Rukus

You have given me a renewed confidence in the benefits of being lazy.

Newsbusters has no idea of the great contribution they are to the improvement of the environment by keeping all of us chained to our computers for such long periods of time.

The men on this site are especially indebted to NBs since they keep us out of trouble since we are not getting drunk and running around chasing women.

Well, maybe just the running around part.

Coco

Lazy=green? Oh, I am SO on that bandwagon. Geaux Green!!! Yeah! I gotta go refill my coffee cup but it's really hard tearing these roots out from by butt to the chair, maybe I'll just sit here and be green for a little longer, sigh...

 

Gary

 

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

Cocodrie

If you can catch me you can have me......

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

The chase is on

Chercher la femme!

In temperate climate zones

In temperate climate zones environmentally friendly footwear can be obtained in the fall. From mid to late October it is permissible for each individual to select up to two handfuls of fallen leaves from which winter sandals may be fashioned. Upon the Spring Festival any remaining fragments should be ceremonially replaced at the original location so that Mother Earth may be renewed.

 

→ Meanwhile

Pravda warns of coming Ice Age.

How to confuse a Liberal?

Put him in a round room and tell him to pee in the corner.

Tell him that whatever he does will cause Global Warming, Global Cooling, or Global Stasis - none of which are good outcomes.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Performing two Google

Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research.

   Well, I have never boiled tea and never will so I can search all I want. 

oops

 

→ Global Warming

It's a balmy -78 degrees (no, that's not wind chill) in Alaska today.

But the source is NPR.  Talk about inner turmoil!

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I saw this on Drudge

I saw this on Drudge yesterday. I'm still not buying it- I've been all over the internet for the last 12 hours or so, just trying to find someone else to corroborate these findings. No luck. I've Google'd it, I don't know, 400 times so far? Course, it's cold out here...

→ Same here Keyser

I get pretty warm when I google myself.

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That is my kind of humor!

  There as so many ways to take that.

  I took it as - yes just don't google yourself in public. You might be arrested. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

The biggest source of

The biggest source of pollution is coming from the manure heads over in the EU. I cannot believe how utterly stupid some people can be. Is everybody in Europe applying for a job with Gore? If they would kick all the Muslims out of Europe the smell of curry would greatly diminish and improve the air quality.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

  My secret is out! Google searches is how I heat my home.

  It is why I am a hostile evil little weasel,  people will then google me and I get lots of teh heat. Please people! It is cold here! Use google searches and keep my 17 illegitimate children warm!

google - JWF is a giant douche

google - JWF kill kittens and steals their souls

google - JWF sucks farts out of old cars seats

google - JWF spawn of the devil or just some kind of wart on his butt

google - JWF LOSER!

google - JWF superfragilisticexpialidocious? oh I don't think so. Nice friggin try.

google - JWF himbo!

Please people continue to use google searches. Without it, I will be forced to pay for my heat and little Tiny Tim (# 12) will not get new crutches for christmas.

"Sorry kids, no one used google searches this week, we can't afford meat this week. Here everyone share this lifesaver. Ok Mary, you had your 30 seconds, spit it out and give it to Tiny Tim." 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

JWF !

  ROTFLMAO!!! OMG that was funny! And I didn't even have to Google it!! LOL! Of course Cool Googles himself, which kinda weirds me out ; ) , guess I should try it...

P.S. Leave

the

kittens 

alone!

 

Gary

 

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."

→ JWF

I've arranged an appointment for Tiny Tim at Scooter Warehouse.

If he doesn't qualify, they'll let him have it free. (or something like that)

And Merry Christmas everyone.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

I guess google just needs a

I guess google just needs a nuke plant at every data center.

Don't you mean windmill or

Don't you mean windmill or solar panel?

Mr Coffee

"Performing two Google searches from a desktop computer can generate about the same amount of carbon dioxide as boiling a kettle for a cup of tea, according to new research."

Mr Coffee = problem solved!

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

BTW

BTW, why would you boil an entire kettle of water for a single cup of tea?  Talk about wasteful!

Here's an idea: only boil as much water as you need!  DUH!

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

→ Christopher Horner CSPAN2

Christopher Horner will be on "After Words" CSPAN2 at 5:00 PM Central.

I saw it last night, and it's a great show.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Stories like this make me

Stories like this make me WANT to burn up energy.  I think I will turn on all six of my PC's with the power-management control OFF.

They missed the boat

The problem with Google's eneergy usage isn't the searches, although that's what everyone focuses on. It's their capturing and maintaining every search done by everyone, every email sent over their system, every youtube hit, all the Google analystics stuff used by other web site, etc, and storing it with user identifiable information, so they can do targeted marketing. Gigablast and Cuil use many fewer servers, because they don't capture this sort of data, or hold it indefinitely, or use it to compile statistics constantly.

Google is evil, but not because of their energy consumption. They're eveil because of their total focus on tracking every person constantly. It appears to be bad if Big Brother is run by the government, but okay as long as it's a public/private partnership.

Russ