It may not be an automatic disqualifier for an Obama administration appointment, as Ed Morrissey at Hot Air suggested on Friday, but it's certainly an affront to the personal privacy rights of individuals and families.
The Politico reported Thursday evening about the fallout resulting from an intrusive question on the president-elect's 63-question personnel form:
President-elect Barack Obama’s transition team is asking potential appointees detailed questions about gun ownership, and firearms advocates aren’t happy about it.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓The National Rifle Association has denounced the move, which has already led one Republican senator to consider legislation aimed at ensuring a president can’t use an applicant’s gun ownership status to deny employment.
..... Tucked in at the end of the questionnaire and listed under “Miscellaneous,” it reads: “Do you or any members of your immediate family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any personal injuries or property damage.”
Paul Light, professor of public service at New York University, said there was no such question for potential appointees when President George W. Bush took office in 2000.
“It kind of sticks out there like a sore thumb,” Light said.
The question especially "sticks out" because:
- It's hard to see how guns owned by other members of your immediate family -- which would appear to include, for example, brothers, sisters, and parents not living with the applicant -- are any of Team Obama's bleeping business.
- Notwithstanding how he finessed the Supreme Court's 5-4 Heller decision affirming the obvious -- that the 2nd Amendment supports an individual's God-given right to self-defense, including the right to own and carry firearms -- Obama has a long record of aggressively opposing the individual right to keep and bear arms.
Here are some of the specifics from the irrefutable and overwhelming history of Obama's career-long, dedicated, and persistent antagonism to individual gun rights (I originally covered this in late October at BizzyBlog when evaluating one individual's congressional candidacy; bolds are mine):
- Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.
- Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.
- He voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.
- He has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.
- Obama also supports local gun bans in Chicago and other cities.
- Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.
- Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.
- Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.
- Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.
- Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping, one-gun-a-month sales restrictions, a ban on inexpensive handguns, gun owner licensing and gun registration, and mandatory waiting periods.
- Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.
On top of all that, Obama was a director at an organization that worked mightily to make the Heller decision go the wrong way. They almost succeeded.
Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”
A Pajamas Media column by David T. Hardy in early October revealed that the Foundation engaged in the law-review equivalent of push-polling:
The plan’s objective was bold: the judicial obliteration of the Second Amendment.
Joyce’s directors found a vulnerable point. When judges cannot rely upon past decisions, they sometimes turn to law review articles. Law reviews are impartial, and famed for meticulous cite-checking. They are also produced on a shoestring. Authors of articles receive no compensation; editors are law students who work for a tiny stipend.
In 1999, midway through Obama’s tenure, the Joyce board voted to grant the Chicago-Kent Law Review $84,000, a staggering sum by law review standards. The Review promptly published an issue in which all articles attacked the individual right view of the Second Amendment.
(The Review) solicited only articles hostile to the individual right view of the Second Amendment. ….. Joyce had bought a veto power over the review’s content.
….. The plan worked smoothly. One court, in the course of ruling that there was no individual right to arms, cited the Chicago-Kent articles eight times.
….. The Joyce Foundation board (which still included Obama) ….. expand(ed) its attack on the Second Amendment. Its next move came when Ohio State University announced it was establishing the “Second Amendment Research Center” as a thinktank headed by anti-individual-right historian Saul Cornell. Joyce put up no less than $400,000 to bankroll its creation.
….. The Center proceeded to generate articles denying the individual right to arms.
….. The Joyce directorate’s plan almost succeeded. The individual rights view won out in the Heller Supreme Court appeal, but only by 5-4. The four dissenters were persuaded in part by Joyce-funded writings, down to relying on an article which misled them on critical historical documents.
This outrageous, manipulative history is yet another example of how the national media whitewashed Barack Obama's record during his nearly two-year campaign for the presidency. Though several outlets have done stories on the length of the questionnaire, few if any have noted the gun ownership-related question.
Whether or not being forced into acknowledging gun ownership as a condition of employment affects one's chances of a getting a job with the Obama administration, it would seem to signal a high chance of receiving unfair treatment if a co-worker or supervisor hostile to the Second Amendment concludes during your term of employment that they don't want you around any more.
—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters
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American socialist
November 23, 2008 - 11:46 ET by acadia1755"The American people will never
knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will
adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America
will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." – Norman Thomas, American socialist, 1948
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Norman Thomas
November 23, 2008 - 12:35 ET by allanfIsn't Norman Thomas the father of Newsweek Editor Evan Thomas and a founder of the ACLU?
Socialism Family Tree
November 23, 2008 - 13:11 ET by CaringwhiteguyDon't tar poor Evan! Norman Thomas was NOT Evan Thomas' father. He was his GRANDFATHER. Just like pattern baldness, certain problems skip a generation.
Where did the Supreme
November 23, 2008 - 20:08 ET by TailgunnerWhere did the Supreme Court get the idea that they had to turn to law reviews in the absence of prior court rulings? Whatever happened to the Founders' intent?
There are volumes of contemporaneous commentaries, discussions and other literature written by the Founding Fathers during the Constitutional ratification process. The Second Amendment especially has been exhaustively discussed in these writings.
There is no doubt whatsoever that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms against potential tyranny.
Liberal machinations are less than toilet paper compared to the writings of Jefferson, Franklin and Washington. No court should waste a minute on them.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Could not agree more
November 23, 2008 - 20:34 ET by Tom BlumerIn a way I'm surprised it has taken this long for someone to attempt a manipulation as Obama's group did. The courts long ago stopped looking at what the Founders meant and instead went to the case law approach, which a method that over time is guaranteed to pile layers of BS on top of each other. I guess there's no job security in just reading the plain language of the Founders.
Bailout after Bailout...
November 23, 2008 - 17:30 ET byacadia1755,
Let me correct your mistake and change your quote...
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of compassionate conservatism they will
adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."
That's much better...Bush is still in office, by the way, doing a heck of job. The Socialist Program he instituted will be corrected after January 20th when the most "Liberal" Senator in the Nation rescues us from this train wreck of an economy.
Elections have consequences!
Übercon
"Yes, We can!" President-Elect Barack Obama
Let me correct your mistake, ignoranus.
November 23, 2008 - 17:57 ET by R D HelmThe Socialist Program he instituted will be [greatly expanded] after January
20th when the most [Marxist] Senator in the [history of this] Nation [greatly accelerates] this train wreck of an economy.
There, much better.
We do, after all, strive for accuracy here at NB. :-)
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Dave, Good thing we have
November 23, 2008 - 18:00 ET byDave,
Good thing we have "safety nets" in this country for the unemployed.
Übercon
I start my new job next week.
November 23, 2008 - 18:03 ET by R D HelmJust 11 days from now.
Sorry to disappoint you. :-)
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
RD... Did you get that
November 23, 2008 - 18:04 ET by Clear thinkerRD...
Did you get that job of spying on people like Uber?
;-)
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Nahh, they wouldn't hire
November 23, 2008 - 18:06 ET by R D HelmNahh, they wouldn't hire me. To much baggage. LOL.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Uber
November 23, 2008 - 18:32 ET by cocodrieThe Unconcious One just might fix our economy beyond repair. I hope you enjoy your reduced useable income after Jan. 20,
Awesome!
November 23, 2008 - 18:07 ET byDave,
Will you pay back the hard working people who supported you during your time off?
Übercon
Congratulations Dave
November 23, 2008 - 18:18 ET by shawn228Just prove persistance pays off. Uber that was an extremely cheap shot poking fun of someones unemployment in these hard times, you should be ashamed of yourself.
He had my vote
Shawn, Thanks, but...
November 23, 2008 - 18:35 ET by R D HelmI ain't out of the woods just yet.
My first paycheck is at least four weeks away, and I am seriously behind on my car and insurance payments.
Should I lose either, I'm screwed, as both are a requirement for the primary job and for the part time gig I am currently in negotiations for.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
On the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama
November 23, 2008 - 11:50 ET by PopularTechOn the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama (NRA)
Censored Global Warming Videos
PT... Hey that is a great
November 23, 2008 - 18:01 ET by bigtimerPT...
Hey that is a great link...thanks.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Obama'a questionnaire has been flying around for two weeks.
November 23, 2008 - 11:59 ET by R D HelmBarry-O couldn't qualify to work for himself based on the questions I have seen on that list.
As for his position on the 2nd Amendment, the man is lying through his teeth, as the goal of all totalitarian governments is the disarmament of its people.
If Obama can figure out a way to do it, "legally" or otherwise, he will disarm law-abiding American citizens.
Barrack Hussein Obama is a proven liar. Do not believe anything he says.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Darn
November 23, 2008 - 12:04 ET by BeresfordWell, I guess that surprise cabinet appointment of Dick Cheney is off the table.
First and Second Amendment Rights
November 23, 2008 - 12:14 ET by NorthCoasterFight for our Constitutional rights to free speech and to own guns. These two issues are at the top of the Obama Agenda with the "Fairness/Local Intrest" attempts to regulate Free Speach and the attempts to regulate gun ownership.
Here's how it goes:
November 23, 2008 - 12:21 ET by littlemissmuffinFirst comes registration; then comes confiscation.
DO NOT register your guns.
"If we conservatives moved to those seven non-existent States, the government couldn’t find us and tax us to death!"
littlemiss, what you have
November 23, 2008 - 19:09 ET by ConservativeRexlittlemiss, what you have written would have made our founders proud beyond belief!
That, littlemiss is the essence of being and remaining a FREE American!
I've always advocated buying your weapons face to face. But then again, that's just me. It's nobody's business what I do or do not own.
Rich and Famous and Liberal New Yorkers with Guns
November 23, 2008 - 12:30 ET by allanfThe dirty little secret is that many liberals own guns. Pinch Sulzberger, whose NY Times leads the anti-gun crusade has a rare New York City carry permit. Others (from 2006) included:
What's all the fuss?
November 23, 2008 - 12:34 ET by ThalpyWhat's all the fuss? Significant news would be about things that we find unobjectionable about Obama's behavior and beliefs. Right? It shouldn't be surprising to any of us that Obama has turned out to be what he promised and what his track record confirms. We knew we were in for it, so now what? In our world, gun ownership might be a requirement for employment rather than a deterrent.
At any rate, perhaps it's about time we awakened to the reality of Senator Obama as our next President. Awareness of the cost of our complaisance is beginning to emerge.
Crushed my dream.
November 23, 2008 - 12:46 ET by CrashGuess I won't be workin' for the man.
Some of these Obama Job
November 23, 2008 - 12:57 ET by Jack BauerSome of these Obama Job Application questions are just plain weird.
#23. Which of the following colors do you prefer
a) Taupe
b) Pink
c) Black
d) Mauve
#31. Which of the folllowing TV shows do you think most represents your personality
a) The Fresh Prince of Bel Air
b) The Dukes of Hazzard
c) Rawhide
d) Murphy Brown
#56. Which do you believe in?
a) God
b) Spirit in the Sky
c) Obama
d) That Indian dude with 8 limbs
Jack, I've already said
November 23, 2008 - 19:11 ET by ConservativeRexJack, I've already said that Obami IS the:
"Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers"!
Clinging to their guns and religion
November 23, 2008 - 13:01 ET by ThisnThatObama began his assault on American society a long time ago. He brazenly continued that assault during the campaign. He now looks forward to appointing judges; supporting lawsuits; and getting his liberal Congressional pals to push through the restrictions that will deny us our basic rights. This will happen in the open, and with the msm's full consent and active support.
This man's election is the worst thing that could happen to this nation.
___________________________________
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber
In San Diego, I made a
November 23, 2008 - 13:03 ET by KevpotIn San Diego, I made a medical appointment to get a physical and since it was my first visit I had to fill out the usual paperwork regarding health history. One of the questions on the history was "do you own any firearms and what are they?"
I wrote "none of your f'ing business' and then went to a different doctor.
Keypot
November 23, 2008 - 13:29 ET by littlemissmuffinGood for you!!!!
"If we conservatives moved to those seven non-existent States, the government couldn’t find us and tax us to death!"
Yeah, when "gun-control"
November 24, 2008 - 04:42 ET by Indiana JoeYeah, when "gun-control" became a "health-issue," doctors jumped on the bandwagon. I've never run across it (been with the same doc for decades), but I've heard of it.
You did just what I'd do.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Christmas list revisions...
November 23, 2008 - 13:09 ET by PewahI was going to be asking for bicycle stuff for Christmas, but now it seems I had better get that carbine and tons of ammo I've been thinking of instead before those self-righteous socialists take that option away from me.
Realistically speaking though, registering firearms in a nation that is so replete with ones that have not been would be like trying to implement a "workers program" for illegals in the U.S. at this point. It's too late, there are already too many here to control (I live in AZ by the way).
Yeah, I've been thinking
November 24, 2008 - 04:44 ET by Indiana JoeYeah, I've been thinking it's a good time to stock up on ammo... while we still can!
And anyone who doesn't already own a gun; get one, while you still can.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Joe, If I could offer a
November 24, 2008 - 13:51 ET by ConservativeRexJoe, If I could offer a suggestion on ammo. Stick with the basics, those being: 9MM, 5.56MM (.223), 7.62 MM. No matter where you are in the world, chances are if you pick a gun up off the ground it's going to be an AK-47 (7.62). Get re-loading manuals, load your own and stock up on all necessities.
Meanwhile, is Obama even
November 23, 2008 - 14:00 ET by marvlMeanwhile, is Obama even qualified to be President of the United States? He has yet to prove his citizenship by the simple expedient of producing a birth certificate. What's he hiding?
Now, now...
November 24, 2008 - 04:46 ET by Indiana JoeThat's "been addressed." Isn't it about time for us to "move on?"
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Indiana Joe, should we just
November 24, 2008 - 04:50 ET by semolina_filcherIndiana Joe, should we just lay down and let the fraudulent Obama take over as legitimate (if at all) prez of the US? I'd like for him to "move on"....to Indonesia or Pakistan or Kenya or where ever this polithug came from.... cheers!
Orbis non Suffici
semolina,
November 24, 2008 - 05:17 ET by Indiana JoeThat was a joke, in re some popular catch-phrases of the Clinton years. I figure if Obama's gonna make up his cabinet from Clinton left-overs, he might as well start practicing the same excuses.
Personally, I'd love it if Roberts asked BO for his BC before he swore him in. But it ain't gonna happen, more's the pity.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
if you do buy
November 23, 2008 - 14:02 ET by tonemeistertry to pay with cash not a credit card. i agree with pewah, way too many guns here now to get them all. but he still might try. read solzhenitsyn in "the gulag archepeliago" he wonders how many kgb murderers would have been able to grab innocent people if they were armed. the cops and military probably wouldn't cooperate in a gun grab unless some serious civil disturbance was created. i don't think he would be able to easily get them to throw the constition on the trash heap. maybe obama's "civil defence force". remember we're onto this guy. people are awake to what might happen to our rights. thats half the battle. "clinging to guns and religion since 1776"
Guns
November 23, 2008 - 14:16 ET by cocodrieBuying a gun from a retail outlet requires paperwork that is turned in to the feds and goes into permanent records. When they come for the new guns we buy they will also look for the old ones. They also have on file the ammo we bought when we were required to present drivers licenses to purchase. The ammo records will tell them what guns to search for. Prepare for many new ways to gather info on us.
It's a funny thing....
November 24, 2008 - 04:49 ET by Indiana Joe... but I sold all those guns to private parties over the years. Never more than one a year, so I wasn't a "dealer," and wasn't required to keep records. But I just don't have them anymore!
Sorry.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Good morning Joe
November 24, 2008 - 05:06 ET by cocodrieYou have me laughing. I'm an optimist about nearly everything except government intentions and government efficiency.
Morning, coco,
November 24, 2008 - 05:13 ET by Indiana JoeHopefully, you're up at your normal time. Me, not so much. Woke up at 1:30 local time, and not much hope of getting back to sleep now.
Sounds like you subscribe to a rational optimism. ;^)
Works for me.
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Same here Joe
November 24, 2008 - 05:29 ET by cocodrieWoke up an hour ago.
Over my many years I have learned I can trust only Jesus and those who follow him. That sort of rules out government.
Seems like the chosen one will be creating millions more "efficient" employees. For the first time in my life I am concerned about the future of America.
Spectrum Opposite - Or Around Full Circle?
November 23, 2008 - 14:29 ET by Caringwhiteguy"Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party"?
The Slope
November 23, 2008 - 15:15 ET by CaringwhiteguyIf the Chosen One gets away with this (and there's every indication he will) the precedent will be set for any other employer to ask the same question. Prospective employees will never know whether they lose out on an opportunity because of gun ownership, because the employer will tell them they were a great candidate, but someone else was just a little better fit.
The slippery slope is that gun owners will lie on their applications and be terminated if found out . . . or people will just get rid of, or not purchase firearms for fear of being denied a position. You won't have to repeal the 2nd Amendment.
i hope i never have to choose...
November 24, 2008 - 19:37 ET by clinging to my guns and my religion...whether or not to work for someone who might not hire me simply because i exercise my 2nd amendment right. wow, scary thought!!
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." Edmund Burke
The interesting thing to see...
November 23, 2008 - 16:35 ET by Prester John...is when the BHO administration and Congress makes gun ownership a question on our federal tax returns, the failure to answer of which will result in a complete audit of your return as well as the usual late penalties and fines.
Next step is asking this of
November 23, 2008 - 16:46 ET by GrannyGrump42Next step is asking this of EVERY citizen.
They don't want another...
November 23, 2008 - 17:20 ET by...Vince Foster incident.
Who can blame them?
Übercon
"Yes, We can!" President-Elect Barack Obama
What...?
November 24, 2008 - 04:52 ET by Indiana JoeYou mean, if Hillary hadn't had that gun... ?
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Obumma and Guns...
November 23, 2008 - 17:40 ET by StumpieObama...Yes they can...take your guns Obama... Yes they can...take your money Obama...Yes they can...take your freedom Obama...Yes they can...Ruin this great country But Only if We allow it!!!! Apathy kills as surely as enslavement does...........
Stumpie... We must NOT
November 23, 2008 - 18:02 ET by Clear thinkerStumpie...
We must NOT allow it to happen. This alone is our only hope.
Comrade Obama, IMHO is a danger to our way of life, so spread the word people!
Obama The Next Great Communist Leader?
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RD
November 23, 2008 - 18:27 ET by littlemissmuffinRD: Congrats on the new job. Hope everything goes well for you.
Stock up on guns and ammo now before it's too late! We MUST have a way to protect ourselves from this communist government to start on Jan 20, 2009.
"If we conservatives moved to those seven non-existent States, the government couldn’t find us and tax us to death!"
Regulations
November 23, 2008 - 18:43 ET by chronicWhat is Obama thinking of having regulations on firearms? Can't we be like the middle east, where Bush brought democrarcy, and everyone can have the right to carry around AK-47s to take out super-animals like the flying squirrel? No regulations has worked pretty well for the Bush administration and the economy as well. Bush's economic plans have been so succesful and he comes up with great new ideas everyday, even as his presidency is coming to an end. It seems like everyone is just waiting for Obama to come in and clean up this pile that Bush is dumping on him. Luckily, people all around the world remain optimistic that Obama will pull us out of the mess that Bush and his anti-regulations has got us into. We can only go up from here.
You have nearly all of the
November 23, 2008 - 18:54 ET by Free StinkerYou have nearly all of the moonbat talking points down pat.
But you missed "Bush is having innocent people tortured at Gitmo"
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Free... Shhh, that stuff
November 23, 2008 - 19:03 ET by Clear thinkerFree...
Shhh, that stuff we do at gitmo is supposed to be a secret. Personally, I like the pulling out of fingernails technique.
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Gitmo' to be NO MO'
November 23, 2008 - 19:04 ET by chronicLuckily Obama will shut that down as soon as he takes office on Jan. 20th. Cheney is the torturer anyways, he has a fetish for that kind of thing.
I just knew you couldn't
November 23, 2008 - 19:08 ET by Free StinkerI just knew you couldn't wait for terrorists to be back in circulation.
When did you first realize that you hate the United States?
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
→ chronic
November 23, 2008 - 19:16 ET by Cool ArrowIt's been 7 years, and chronic is still apologizing to Al Qaeda. Bill Ayers must be proud of his batch of eunuchs.
Maybe chronic is a sock
November 23, 2008 - 19:20 ET by Free StinkerMaybe chronic is a sock puppet for Bill ?
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Free,
November 24, 2008 - 04:55 ET by Indiana JoeClinton, or Ayers?
;^)
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
Maybe if you lay off the
November 24, 2008 - 04:54 ET by Indiana JoeMaybe if you lay off the "chronic," you'd actually make sense.
Or maybe not....
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
With Heller
November 23, 2008 - 20:42 ET by retroconWith the Heller Decision, gun ownership is now an individual right, which means, we need to treat it like the civil right that it is. We know that the ACLU won't help.
Preference must be given to gun owners for jobs over equally or lesser qualified non-gun owners.
Gun owners must be accorded low interest home loans regardless as to their credit rating.
You may not talk negatively about gun owners, and any use of the "G" word will be construed as hate speech.
Gun owners have been descriminated against for far too long, the opression of the Clinton Administration must be undone. Gun owners need reperations in the form of a new AR-15 and 1911. Preferrably a matched set, serialized appropriately, and engraved with the Heller Decision participants on the side.
That will be all.
Seriously, when his "Olyness" gets his 18 year old mandatory service requirements passed, and he enlists them into his Civilian National Security Force, and indoctrinates them into the religion of "O," you can believe that your next door neighbor, in just a few years, will be listening through the walls, and turning you in for saying or doing anything against the "national interest" of the "O."
Sorry, too much adds up.
"That will be all."
November 24, 2008 - 04:58 ET by Indiana JoeNo, based on ACLU past-practice, that will be just the beginning. Further "reparations" will be demanded as they occur to us.
Maybe among them will be the requirement that the CNSF be known more appropriately as the "Obama Youth."
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..." - The Who
A God-given Primary Human Natural Right
November 24, 2008 - 01:12 ET by wotsiznamewotsizname "The God Who gave us Life gave us Liberty at the same time. The hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them." Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to a friend. - These rights exist whether a government exists or not. The government is not our God. It has no rights to give. (See Declaration of Independence, written when we had no government or constitution.) The constitution states what the government must, and may not do, as stated by the citizens who established it. The Bill of Rights LISTS some of the most vital of these rights, it does not CONFER them! They already irrevocably already exist. The much admired First Amendment is just words unless supported by the second, which of course appears next. Criminals will always be armed, and will always ignore the laws. If you forbid arms to the law abiding citizens, who aren't a menace to each other, it can only be a plan to make the citizens helpless against tyranny. It will destroy our nation if it occurs. "...just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't CONSTRAIN (see Jefferson) the exercise of that right. - Barack Obama in 2008 Philadelphia Primary Debate.
Questionaire
November 24, 2008 - 03:10 ET by TBARTucked in at the end of the questionnaire and listed under
“Miscellaneous,” it reads: “Do you or any members of your immediate
family own a gun? If so, provide complete ownership and registration
information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how
and by whom it is used and whether it has been the cause of any
personal injuries or property damage.”
For sure, I am not eligible to be a member of this administration. The sad thing is that all my guns seem to be defective. They haven't killed anyone.
Actually Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than all my guns combined.
My car is registered. My guns are my business only.
Life is too short to be serious
take my gun take my liberty
November 24, 2008 - 08:57 ET by JIMMY1660as we had figured prior to the election, BHO and his terrorists buddies want our guns. after that we are easy prey to the Civilian Force BHO has in mind for us.lets look at a bit of history,i had to be reminded of this.
While, the IRA was blowing up buildings and killing civilians in the name of Freedom(Bill Ayers) the same thing was happening here in the USA by several organizations who now back BHO. IRA has now put on suits and taken to the ballot box,(Wolf in Sheep's clothing?)same as here, The masses have been fooled by the carnival barker selling snake oil. Put on a suit, teach in college, and all is forgotten.BHO has a relationship with terrorists, and Black separatists. Plain and simple.
If they take your guns, you are much easier to succumb to the wishes of the Marxists.
Watch dogs are needed to spread the truth, the truth will set you free, not BHO and his merry men.BHO wants your pension plan,401k,IRA, and all that you have worked hard for, and give it to whomever he deems worthy.
What have we done to my America.
It's not what we have have done...
November 24, 2008 - 12:10 ET by retroconIt's what has been done to us.
Those on this board comprise 98% patriots and 2% trolls.
Those culpable are the main stream media and the 20% of the population who go about their lives, complacent that nothing can change, that all politicians are basically the same, and that the MSM always tells the truth, because journalists just don't lie. So, the MSM says "look at this good looking, intelligent, concerned, caring man, he wants to change everything for the better... oh, and since he's black, you are a racist if you don't pick him over the old white guy."
So they did.