Earlier today, Christopher Booker at the UK Telegraph noted a "surreal scientific blunder," followed by an attempted cover-up, that should cause everyone to question the source's past and future credibility.
The source of the shoddy work is NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), the outfit run by world champion globalarmist James Hansen. Hansen has in the past stated that "heads of major fossil-fuel companies who spread disinformation about global warming should be 'tried for high crimes against humanity and nature.'"
What Booker reports causes one to wonder what the appropriate punishment should be for committing drop-dead obvious errors and integrity-lacking follow-up.
Part of the punishment is surely the Telegraph's delicious headline, followed by Booker's criticism (bolds are mine):
The world has never seen such freezing heat
Story Continues Below Ad ↓A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.
This was startling. Across the world there were reports of unseasonal snow and plummeting temperatures last month .....
So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running.
The error was so glaring that when it was reported on the two blogs - run by the US meteorologist Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre, the Canadian computer analyst who won fame for his expert debunking of the notorious "hockey stick" graph - GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new "hotspot" in the Arctic - in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year.
A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with. This is an astonishing admission: the figures published by Dr Hansen's institute are not only one of the four data sets that the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) relies on to promote its case for global warming, but they are the most widely quoted, since they consistently show higher temperatures than the others.
.... whether, on the basis of such evidence, it is wise for the world's governments to embark on some of the most costly economic measures ever proposed, to remedy a problem which may actually not exist, is a question which should give us all pause for thought.
No kidding. It's also reasonable to ask why taxpayers or anyone else should be funding Hansen's horrible handiwork.
McIntyre at Climate Audit reported the errors, with What's Up With That also noting, on Monday, November 10. GISS's blunder, and attempted back-and-fill, were both clear by Thursday. Yet a Google News search at 11 AM on "Hansen October" (quotes not used) for November 9-16 shows that a few of the larger center-right blogs have picked up on the story, but that here has been no apparent traditional media interest. A similar New York Times search came up empty.
Thus, Mr. Hansen will more than likely be able to continue to spout off in front of congressional committees about the planet's impending doom from global warming -- even as evidence continues to mount that the earth is cooling.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters




















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why am i not surprised
November 16, 2008 - 11:45 ET by sawing battaif the data doesnt fit the template, make up the data...now, that is Science. these clowns must be so proud.
When I was at college, we
November 17, 2008 - 15:30 ET by Tim the EnchanterWhen I was at college, we used to call that process "fudging" the data- we wanted our plots to look like what they were supposed to look like. Change the data to fit the curve, rather than change the curve to fit the data.
There are many websites
November 16, 2008 - 12:02 ET by JohnMThere are many websites (although I don't have the citations at this moment) that have documented the apalling lack of science at the thousands of remote monitoring sites, which fail to meet the requirements for being 100 yards from any manmade structure, or any edifice that would cause anomalous readings. Not only that, but the equipment is not calibrated, and calibrations that are performed are not standardized.
Bottomline: the DATA IS SKEWED!! Always has been.
Not only that, but the calculated factor by which GW is supposed to be detectable is such a tiny fraction of the overall equation, that an error of some 0.000001 degree will shift the "prediction" from Warming to NotWarming.
There is SO much deception that the only possible motivation is political manipulation.
Oh? You think that statement needs proof? SO DO THE GISS NUMBERS!
Here's one
November 16, 2008 - 12:20 ET by ReaverThis is a good site.
http://www.surfacestations.org/
Yes! His "Odd Sites" page
November 16, 2008 - 12:44 ET by JohnMYes! Thanks for the link!
His "Odd Sites" page has been cited here on NB many times, and the pictures are unbelievable!!
http://www.surfacestations.org/odd_sites.htm
My favorite, although not shown on his site, is the location outide a firehouse, just above the firemen's barbeque equipment! My second favorite is the one at the foot of the rock face, where the sunlight and heat reflects off the rock and directly into the monitoring equipment. No skew in either of those, eh?
I'll try to get the links to those as well.
Headline
November 16, 2008 - 12:09 ET by AeroSpearJust so you know, it should be "US Media Couldn't Care Less".
The way it's worded means that they actually give a darn. As we know, that's not in their interest. Just thought I'd help ya out.
Thank goodness for third parties, in more ways than one.(as in proof readers and other news outlets outside the US)
Thx
November 16, 2008 - 13:40 ET by Tom BlumerWent to a clearer title.
James Hansen is good at limbo
November 16, 2008 - 12:10 ET by dboTom,
The blunder at GISS has turned out to be even bigger that the Telegraph states here. After the mistake was almost immediately recognized by bloggers, chief Hansen apologist and Newsbuster hater Gavin Schmidt added to the embarrassment by trying to downplay the significance of the error and launching into personal attacks on his opponents. If this wasn't bad enough, Schmidt admitted that GISS only has 0.25FTE checking data quality control and complained that their budget was woefully inadequate. All this despite the fact that Schmidt spends countless hours running his and Hansen's policy advocacy on his realclimate website (which incidentally is against NASA rules). A couple of days later, Schmidt then announced the problem had been fixed only to discover a 2nd time that there was still errors in the data. Even more egg on his and GISS's face. Bottom line is GISS credibility, already at a low level, now sinks even lower to underneath a snakes belly.
Bizzaro World Forecast
November 16, 2008 - 12:18 ET by acumenCurrent conditions - Thick fog
Forecast - Continued murkiness
Temp - Developing
Wind - Hot air continues to blow from left
Visibility - Zero percent
Exposure risk - Minimal
Science is ALWAYS changing
November 16, 2008 - 12:21 ET by upcountrywaterLowest Sunspot activity in nearly 100 years
A
whole month passed without a sunspot being seen. This is the first time
since 1913 that such an event has happened. Data on sunspots has been
collected since 1749. The sun undergoes cycles every 11 years where
sunspot activity is close to zero.
Many climatologists
believe that solar magnetic activity contributes to climate changes on
Earth. Astronomer William Livingston, co-wrote a paper in 2005 that
predicted that sunspots would completely disappear within a 10 year
period.
Over the past 1000 years, three similar events
have taken place. The Dalton, Maunder, and Spörer Minimums. These
events let to rapid cooling with one even being dubbed a “Mini Ice Age”.
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well well
November 16, 2008 - 12:36 ET by candanceHey lefties, come on over here and explain this!
I'm a typical white person.
Another reason I wasn't
November 16, 2008 - 12:59 ET by KevroyAnother reason I wasn't crazy about McCain. He buys in to the whole global warming idiocy.
Will the media take responsibility.
November 16, 2008 - 13:04 ET by pbthinkerThe press has already won an election for the Democrats, are they willing to put our economy further at risk by going along with the Democrats on their global warming agenda? Ironically, if we had an honest media, in this country, Americans would be informed enough to elect a president and decide, for themselves, on the validity of the global warming arguments. Instead, we have news organizations, in the tank for the Democrats, who only care about Global warming, so they can create taxes to bring in revenue, for them to squander on other projects.
All we ask for is honest reporting and giving us all the information. At least the foreign press is taking care of their citizens. When will the American press start taking care of their readers?
Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.
Don't start believing that UK Papers are now 'fairer'
November 16, 2008 - 13:06 ET by Defector01The concept of global cooling is now gaining ground in the UK and these papers are trying to hedge their bets as to what side is right. Writers and editors are being split pretty much down the middle, so they'll post more articles about stuff like this whereas the Messiah has ordained we will stop global warming.
Wouldn't mind some global cooling here in Southern California, its 80 + and dry and its the middle of November!
I have only ever made one prayer to God, a very short one: O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it - Voltaire
Mother Earth is responding
November 16, 2008 - 13:50 ET by Dan DiegoMother Earth is responding to mankind's wisdom of electing "The One" and has already begun to correct all the ills GWB has inflicted upon the world.
BTW: Cooling can hold off til Mon, I've got a 12:30 tee time.
The cost of living's going up, and the chance of livin's going down. - Flip Wilson
The messiah has spoken --
November 16, 2008 - 15:21 ET by stratmanThe messiah has spoken -- No more AGW after January 20, 2009!
Mother Nature has been assimilated into the Obama Borg hive.
Resistance is futile.
Liberals KNOW the
November 17, 2008 - 00:26 ET by TailgunnerLiberals KNOW the evidence for 'global warming' is becoming increasingly questionable.
That's why the new politically correct term is 'climate change'.
This is a meaningless term which can never be proven or disproven...but liberals can still use it to create hysterics.
An attorney couldn't have come up with a more ambiguous term.
NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Now that they have Obama, they don't need AGW
November 16, 2008 - 14:18 ET by ApacheI suspect much of the MSM used AGW hype to beat up those "evil" conservatives who refuse to bow down to UN wisdom and president Al Gore (he won in their minds). Now that their messiah is elected, they don't have a use for this boogeyman. So it is possible that the MSM will start questioning the "science" because they need to make their man look like he is improving the economy and he can't do that and attack plant food at the same time. So they will take it off his back. So much like they wouldn't question Obama until he was safe, they may now question AGW now that it is safe to do so. Too soon to know for sure. It is sad that our MSM needs to feel safe in order to do their job. The brits seem a lot more brave and operate with a more noble purpose than what we call journalists over here in the main stream circles. If AGW was promoted by Dan Quayle and the solution involved capitalism, it would have been debunked years ago. But since it is Al Gore and “carbon credits” we need to be bent over a prius and take it until we can prove we were raped beyond any and all doubt.
Tom, I was trying to find
November 16, 2008 - 23:05 ET by meteor79Tom, I was trying to find some info on the "attempted cover-up" you refer to... I looked at climateaudit and wattsupwiththat and couldn't find anything about a cover up. Then, I went to the actual GISS website which stated:
2008-11-12:
It seems that one of the sources sent September data rather than October data. Corrected GHCN files were created by NOAA. Due to network maintenance, we were only able to download our basic file late today. We redid the analysis - thanks to the many people who noticed and informed us of that problem.
So, where is this "cover-up"?
Also, I was curious where the link to "mounting evidence of global cooling" would take me... some article by Phillip V. Brennan reciting debunked denier talking points. I thought I would try to find some more of this guys brilliant work and I found this gem from 2005:
http://archive.newsm...
Below is an excerpt... The idiocy speaks for itself. I would not ever link to anything this guys writes if you want to retain any credibility.
And the warm fronts moving north are increasingly hot, but that is not the result of global warming� it's due to the warming of the world's oceans.
That ocean warming is created by a huge increase in undersea tectonic
activity � the kind of increased activity (See Pakistan/India/Indonesia, etc.) we're witnessing on the surface �
submerged volcanoes erupting, gushing red hot magma up through the
earth's crust, or magma spilling through cracks in the sea floor and
turning the ocean waters into boiling cauldrons.
This superheating of the oceans, in turn � which Felix has also
convincingly demonstrated � is sending huge amounts of carbon dioxide into the upper atmosphere. The CO2 becomes moisture and falls as rain
in the summer, autumn and spring, and snow in winter.
It also falls as snow in the Arctic, increasing the depth of the snow
pack atop the ice pack. As Felix says, it's not global warming, it's
ocean warming.
The greater the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, the greater the
amounts of rainfall and snow. Those CO2 levels are now nearing 400
parts per million and growing. Over millions of years, every time the
levels of CO2 have risen above 200 ppm, an ice age has set in. Every
time! Get that? Every time. No exceptions. None.
Seriously... the NASA mistake was embarassing, but linking to that dude is humiliating! :)
If you have been following
November 17, 2008 - 10:52 ET by dtaIf you have been following this, climate audit pointed out problems in the official data. GISS updates the official data. After this update a mysterious hotspot appears over Canada, and four sites in Russia were still reporting the old temperatures. So what is going on is either serious negligence or a temperature shell game. Either way it puts the integrity of the GISS temperature record into serious question.
You can follow it here: http://www.climateau...
Which I would describe in shorthand as .....
November 17, 2008 - 11:43 ET by Tom Blumer..... a coverup.
Umm... "The CO2 becomes
November 17, 2008 - 15:41 ET by Tim the EnchanterUmm... "The CO2 becomes moisture and falls again as rain in the summer, autumn and spring, and snow in winter."
Did you actually read that? CO2 does NOT become "moisture". H2O (water, or dihydrogen monoxide- whatever you prefer) does. CO2 does not even have a liquid state- it goes from a gas directly to a solid, with no intervening liquid state- a process called "sublimation" (Iodine is another material that has this characteristic). That's why frozen CO2 is called "dry ice".
Whoever you cut-and-pasted that from has a serious problem understanding basic chemistry and physics.
Yeah, the guy that wrote
November 17, 2008 - 17:38 ET by meteor79Yeah, the guy that wrote that is a guy named Phil Brennan who Tom Blumer uses as a "source" for "mounting evidence of global cooling". If Tom wants to convince people that there truly is mounting evidence of global cooling, he might want to use a source that isn't a complete moron.
Uh no
November 17, 2008 - 22:16 ET by Tom BlumerFollow me closely:
- source: C-h-a-p-m-a-n.
- reporter: B-r-e-n-n-a-n.
Chapman is quoted as saying the earth is cooling. Brennan may or may not be a moron, but as long as he put Chapman's words correctly inside the quotes, Brennan's intellect, or what he may have written or not written in the past is irrelevant to this post.
You're free to pick apart Chapman. If you find errors in what he said in the excerpted article, I welcome hearing of them.
"... as long as he put
November 18, 2008 - 12:59 ET by meteor79"... as long as he put Chapman's words correctly inside the quotes... what he may have written or not written in the past is irrelevant to this post"
Well, how do you know he quoted Chapman correctly? If a reporter has a history of lying/misleading or taking things out of context (which Brennan obviously does) then don't you think that puts into question what that reporter reports? I realize I may be nitpicking, but I find your argument troubling from a supposed "media watchdog".
Finally, do you really think a late start to the sunspot cycle and a recent La Nina related cool spell (similar to many other cool spells in the past few decades that are superimposed on the longer term temperature rise) constitutes mounting evidence of global cooling? When I hear "mounting evidence" I assume that means peer-reviewed studies, not some random scientist's ill-informed opinion.
When I hear or read that Chapman cries "misquote,"
November 18, 2008 - 22:08 ET by Tom Blumer.... or see other evidence of same, I'll worry.
As to mounting evidence, I guess we'll all just have to settle for this. (/sarc)
Wow
November 20, 2008 - 23:56 ET by general companyThe reviews are giving me hope.
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Extensive Evidence of Global Cooling
November 19, 2008 - 21:47 ET by PopularTech2006 - There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998 (The Daily Telegraph, UK, April 9, 2006)
2006 - Earth in for another "ice age" in mid-century - scientist (Russian News and Information Agency, February 6, 2006)
2006 - Russian Scientist Issues Global Cooling Warning (Russian News and Information Agency, August 25, 2006)
2006 - Short-Term Ocean Cooling Suggests Global Warming 'Speed Bump' (Science Daily, September 21, 2006)
2006 - The Coldest Year In The Last Five Years (The Reference Frame, December 16, 2006)
2007 - The Coming Global Cooling? (World Climate Report, March 16, 2007)
2007 - Canadian Professor: Prepare for Global Cooling (NewsMax, June 21, 2007)
2007 - Is 'global cooling' the real threat? (The Washington Times, June 24, 2007)
2007 - It's Global Cooling, and It's Deadly (NewsMax, June 27, 2007)
2007 - Year of Global Cooling (The Washington Times, December 19, 2007)
2007 - Get Ready for Global Cooling (NewsMax, December 19, 2007)
2008 - A cold spell soon to replace global warming (Russian News and Information Agency, January 3, 2008)
2008 - Br-r-r! Where did global warming go? (The Boston Globe, January 6, 2008)
2008 - First snow for 100 years falls on Baghdad (AFP, January 11, 2008)
2008 - Saudi Arabia covered with snow in coldest winter for 20 years (Russian News and Information Agency, January 11, 2008)
2008 - Up to 61 killed by heavy snow in Afghanistan (Russian News and Information Agency, January 11, 2008)
2008 - Russian scientist says Earth could soon face new Ice Age (Russian News and Information Agency, January 22, 2008)
2008 - China battles "coldest winter in 100 years" (Reuters, February 4, 2008)
2008 - Canadian Scientists Fear Global Cooling (NewsBusters, February 8, 2008)
2008 - Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age (DailyTech, February 9, 2008)
2008 - Welcome to the 'Icebox' of America: Minnesota town hits a record low (International Herald Tribune, February 11, 2008)
2008 - 4 sources say "globally cooler" in the past 12 months (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, February 19, 2008)
2008 - Forget global warming: Welcome to the new Ice Age (National Post, Canada, February 25, 2008)
2008 - Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling (DailyTech, February 26, 2008)
2008 - Global warming sceptics buoyed by record cold (The Daily Telegraph, UK, February 26, 2008)
2008 - Coldest Winter in Memory (NewsMax, March 4, 2008)
2008 - Coolest Winter Since 2001 For U.S., Globe, According To NOAA Data (Science Daily, March 15, 2008)
2008 - It was the coldest Easter for more than 40 years (Daily Mail, UK, March 25, 2008)
2008 - The Oceans Have Stopped Warming! (Canada Free Press, March 26, 2008)
2008 - Global temperatures 'to decrease' (BBC, April 4, 2008)
2008 - No Global Warming Since 1998 As Planet Cools Off (Prison Planet, April 4, 2008)
2008 - Global Warming? Northeast Skies Through a Snowy Season (The New York Sun, April 4, 2008)
2008 - Global warming? Scotland sees its best snow in a decade (The Times, UK, April 19, 2008)
2008 - The Antarctic deep sea gets colder (Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research, April 21, 2008)
2008 - Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh (The Australian, April 23, 2008)
2008 - Global warming may 'stop', scientists predict (The Daily Telegraph, UK, April 30, 2008)
2008 - May Day storm brings snow to Colorado mountains (USA Today, May 1, 2008)
2008 - New Jason Satellite Indicates 23-Year Global Cooling (Hawaii Reporter, May 7, 2008)
2008 - U.S. Has 36th Coolest Spring on Record (NOAA, June 6, 2008)
2008 - Global Temperature Also Cooler in May (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, June 6, 2008)
2008 - Global Warming Movement Turns Cool (James Spann, AMS Certified Meteorologist, June 22, 2008)
2008 - Australian Researchers Warn of Global Cooling (DailyTech, July 1, 2008)
2008 - Charlotte temperature hits 123-year low (The Charlotte Observer, July 2, 2008)
2008 - UAH Global Temperatures, June 2008 still low (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, July 2, 2008)
2008 - Four scientists: Global Warming Out, Global Cooling In (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, July 12, 2008)
2008 - Anchorage’s record setting cold summer (Anchorage Daily News, July 24th, 2008)
2008 - More Global Cooling Ahead, Study Says (The Heartland Institute, August 1, 2008)
2008 - Could the Earth be cooling its heels? (Delta Farm Press, August 7, 2008)
2008 - Solar radio waves could signal global cooling (Financial Post, Canada, August 11, 2008)
2008 - Is there a cold future just lying in wait for us? (Belfast Telegraph, UK, August 13, 2008)
2008 - Decade has had fewest 90-degree days since 1930 (Chicago Tribune, August 13, 2008)
2008 - Dearth Of Sunspot Activity To Herald New Ice Age? (Prison Planet, August 14, 2008)
2008 - Hadley Climate Center Data shows global cooling in the last year (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, August 15, 2008)
2008 - Mexican scientist warn Earth will enter 'Little Ice Age' for up to 80 Years Due to decrease in solar activity (Right Side News, August 19, 2008)
2008 - Global cooling gains momentum among scientists (Delta Farm Press, August 25, 2008)
2008 - 'Snowfall' shocks Kenyan village (BBC, September 3, 2008)
2008 - Global Warming’s Kaput; 2008 Coolest in 5 Years (NewsMax, September 8, 2008)
2008 - Old Farmers Almanac: Global cooling may be underway (USA Today, September 9, 2008)
2008 - NAS reports: 50 million year cooling trend (The Christian Science Monitor, September 25, 2008)
2008 - Global cooling sign: Solar winds at 50-year-low (Financial Post, Canada, September 28, 2008)
2008 - Ireland: Coldest September for 14 years (The Press Association, October 1, 2008)
2008 - Boise gets earliest snow on record (The Idaho Statesman, October 11, 2008)
2008 - Thirty years of warmer temperatures go poof (National Post, Canada, October 20, 2008)
2008 - Chill in the air: record low temps in 10 states (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, October 26, 2008)
2008 - London has first October snow in over 70 years (The Guardian, UK, October 29, 2008)
2008 - Tibet's 'worst snowstorm ever', 7 killed (Xinhua, October 30, 2008)
2008 - South Florida cold spell breaks records (Sun Sentinel, October 30, 2008)
2008 - NOAA: U.S. breaks or ties 115 cold and sets 63 new snowfall records (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, October 30, 2008)
2008 - Global Cooling is Here (Global Research, November 2, 2008)
2008 - Alarmists Still Heated Even As World Cools (Investors Business Daily, November 04, 2008)
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Like I said earlier, the
November 20, 2008 - 00:23 ET by meteor79Like I said earlier, the recent cool spell was related to La Nina (and probably partially to the min in the solar cycle), and there are many similar dips in temperatures superimposed on the longer term temperature rise. All you've done is provided links to recent articles citing anecdotal evidence of the recent cool weather. If you think this is signalling the beginning of actual global cooling, you are just as guilty as what you accuse the "alarmists" of doing.
By the way, I am so impressed by your copying and pasting skills! :)
Definitely due to the min in the solar cycle
November 20, 2008 - 01:05 ET by PopularTechSince the Sun controls the climate and not CO2, that is a given. All I have done is provide overwhelming evidence of global cooling. I realize I need about 1000 sources (working on that) though.
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Actually, the concentration
November 20, 2008 - 13:26 ET by meteor79Actually, the concentration of gases that absorb and emit infrared radiation, as well as solar irradiance, control climate. If solar irradiance was the sole driver of global temperatures, global temps should have remained constant or decreased slightly during the last few decades and temps have actually warmed. Note, I'm talking about the long term trends here, not short term variability. That is what the observations of solar irradiance and temperatures suggest. Here is just one example:
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossre/2008/2008GL034864.shtml
This paper uses observations to extract the temperature response to solar irradiance, aerosols from volcanoes, and ENSO events. Guess what? They find that none of these influences can account for recent warming... I'm not saying it is increased CO2 (although there is strong evidence for it), but skeptics/deniers like yourself have not come up with an alternative explanation. Unless you can enlighten me...
Surface Temperature Measurements are a Joke
November 20, 2008 - 23:39 ET by PopularTechAnd any paper trying to make conclusions based on these is thus flawed.
Odd USHCN Weather Stations (Surface Stations)
Not to mention the loss of surface station data, further biasing the record.
The Graph of Temperature vs. Number of Stations (Ross McKitrick, Ph.D. Economics)
- GHCN Air Temperature Station Locations 1950-1996 (Animation) (University of Delaware)
- Historical Station Distribution (Climate Audit)
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Well, well, if it isn't Gile's butt-buddy mediocre79.
November 20, 2008 - 23:44 ET by R D HelmStill peddling the long-discredited (not to mention based on severely flawed computer model) AGW BS, are you?
Damn, get a life, will you?
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Yep, another one of Hansens
November 20, 2008 - 23:47 ET by Clear thinkerYep, another one of Hansens 'baffle them with bullshit' water carriers.
Holy Obama
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
I think we can defeat
November 21, 2008 - 00:00 ET by NL207I think we can defeat meteor79 in debate without referring to him as Giles' butt buddy. Aspersions of this kind do nothing but undermine the legitimate efforts to discredit his arguments. Could you please stow this extraneous ad hominem??
NL207, if my response to hurdling space-junk here...
November 21, 2008 - 00:18 ET by R D Helm...offended you, please accept my sincerest apologies, but there is a history here that I cannot bring myself to ignore.
Besides, given what this nation is facing come the 20th of January, 2009, I no-longer have the patience to deal with, nor even be civil to, 14 yo basement-dwelling AGW adherents.
BTW-I couldn't help notice that the only buddy this troll has here at NB is Giles.
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
Don't worry about the
November 21, 2008 - 00:27 ET by NL207Don't worry about the history. You've watched me splash this guy before. Follow my example. Defeat their argument. Most of the libs around here lose their self control and intellectually self destruct. Meteor79 , to his credit, does not usually do that. But he also does not win these debates either.
This reference is in direct
November 20, 2008 - 23:57 ET by NL207This reference is in direct contradiction to the claims you have made about your reference. It flatly says in its abstract: "sun contributed as much as ... 25–35% of the 1980–2000 global warming"
Both studies acknowledge
November 21, 2008 - 22:01 ET by meteor79Both studies acknowledge solar contributions to temperature changes (note to PopTech: none of the AGW "believers" deny the influence of the sun), but with slightly different results. This isn't surprising given the very different methods used to extract solar influences: one study is very dependant on a model, while the other is strictly observational.
What I take away from these studies is that, using two very different methodologies, both papers conclude an increasing anthropogenic influence on global temperatures during the latter half on the last century.
So... to what do you
November 21, 2008 - 00:21 ET by NL207So... to what do you ascribe the remarkable correlation between sunspsot cyles and climate warm cycles over the last 200 years?
Hansen and the rest of those dogmatists at GISS have implicitly ascribed this to coincidence while making statements to the effect that it must be coincidence because there is no known coupling mechanism to make near surface temperatures dependent on sunspot activity. Other, more open minded researchers such as Henrik Svensmark have spent some time and thought trying to discover a coupling mechanism to explain the apparent correlation between these data.
Which of these two groups do you think are the more insightful and open minded scientists? My money is not on the dogmatists at GISS.
Unstoppable Solar Cycles
November 21, 2008 - 00:47 ET by PopularTechUnstoppable Solar Cycles (Video) (10min)
Reply to Lockwood and Fröhlich – The persistent role of the Sun in climate forcing (The Danish National Space Center)
"...over the past 20 years the solar cycle remains fully apparent in variations both of tropospheric air temperature and of ocean subsurface water temperature. [...]
When the response of the climate system to the solar cycle is apparent in the troposphere and ocean, but not in the global surface temperature, one can only wonder about the quality of the surface temperature record. For whatever reason, it is a poor guide to Sun-driven physical processes that are still plainly persistent in the climate system. [...]
...one cannot distinguish between the effects of anthropogenic gases such as carbon dioxide and of natural greenhouse gases. For example, increased evaporation means that infrared radiation from water vapor, by far the most important greenhouse gas, will tend to provide positive feedback for any global warming, ... In any case, the most recent global temperature trend is close to zero. [...]
The continuing rapid increase in carbon dioxide concentrations during the past 10-15 years has apparently been unable to overrule the °attening of the temperature trend as a result of the Sun settling at a high, but no longer increasing, level of magnetic activity. Contrary to the argument of Lockwood and FrÄohlich, the Sun still appears to be the main forcing agent in global climate change."
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"So... to what do you
November 21, 2008 - 22:18 ET by meteor79"So... to what do you ascribe the remarkable correlation between sunspsot cyles and climate warm cycles over the last 200 years?"
A little confused by this... Sunspot cycles have an 11-yr period, which is definitely not clearly reflected in any of the global temperature datasets. However, there is a signal that can be extracted. The paper I cited above found a 0.2K signal while previous work has argued a 0.1K solar cycle response.
I'm guessing what you are really referring to is the overall increase in solar irradiance since about 1900:
http://en.wikipedia....
[sorry for the wikipedia reference... I know, I know, it's controlled by evil anti-AGW censoring liberals :) ]
The modern solar maxima peaked in the 1950s/60s, so it is hard to argue that the post-1980s warming was dominated by solar influences.
Alternative explanations are important
November 18, 2008 - 05:40 ET by TheHistorianYou may not like the guy's alternative explanation, but often they become part of the truth. Remember when tectonic plate theory was being debunked? Or the "big bang" theory was being derided? All sources of thought should be covered and considered, not jeered.
My own problem is the devastating argument that, if CO2 is such a bad actor, why is not the GHG H2O being thought about? All of the models, etc. go to great lengths to avoid the fact that as the world heats up, for example from increased sunspot activity, tectonic activity, or from volcanoes, that the air will hold more water vapor. The average water vapor concentration in air is in the grams/cu meter range while CO2 is in the mg/cu meter range, and H2O is a KNOWN IR absorber.
It seems to be to be ludicrous that variations in a major GHG are ignored while a small contributor like CO2 is given such prominence.
"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."
G. W. F. Hegel
I have been following
November 17, 2008 - 11:23 ET by meteor79I have been following through climateaudit and realclimate... Actually, it was readers of Anthony Watts blog that first reported the errors, not climateaudit (doesn't really matter who reported the errors, though). I still fail to see any evidence of a "cover-up". The "mysterious" Canadian hotspot was explained at realclimate:
"the eagle eyed among you will notice that more data has been added to
the GISTEMP maps in between the original posting and the new corrected
posting. This is because different weather services post the data at
different times and it takes time for them all to do so. Roughly half
the data takes more than two weeks to come in. However, between last
friday (when GISTEMP downloaded the first GHCN data) and today
(thursday), stations in Australia and northern Canada were reported."
Take it for what it is worth... it seems like a viable explanation to me.
"Take it for what it is
November 21, 2008 - 00:07 ET by NL207"Take it for what it is worth... it seems like a viable explanation to me"
It depends on the meaning of the word 'is' is. Some people are simply gullible.
It is time for the Republicans in Congress
November 18, 2008 - 05:30 ET by TheHistorianto call for independent review of the Goddard data. The Congressional Budget Office has the people with the numbers and QA background to do it right. Make him bring all of his data forth and to publish his models as they have largely been paid for by the US Governnment. The whole push for CO2 caps in the US is based on the data from this group
If, as is claimed here, he has been lying about or even not examining data, then it is time for either Hansen or the whole Goddard Institute to go. The latter may be necessary, for the lack of "whistle-blowers" in the Institute shows that they are mostly on board with this whole approach of Hansen's. Of course, when either happens, the cry will be of "conservative censorship", not that his institute was either too careless or too committed to a cause to examine the truth.
"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."
G. W. F. Hegel