DC Auto Bailout Ideas Involve US Equity Stakes, Turn into an Early Christmas Tree

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Can I have permission to utter the S-word ("socialism")?

Ken Thomas's Associated Press report today (link is dynamic, subject to change, and will probably be gone in a week) on auto industry bailout ideas emanating from Washington includes these items, all of which expand soc- ... soc- ... socialism:

  • Legislation proposed by Barney Frank involves the government taking ownership stakes in the companies.
  • Lawmakers want to use funds that were meant only for the financial sector bailout.
  • A note that the current bailout is over and above the $25 billion in government-guaranteed loans that has already been approved for "development of fuel-efficient vehicles."
  • News that auto industry suppliers want in on the bailout action
  • The United Auto Workers wants a separate $25 billion "to help cover future health care obligations for retirees and their dependents."

Are we having fun yet?

Here are key paragraphs from the AP story:

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Democrats at work to tap bailout for automakers

Congressional Democrats are marshaling support for a rescue package to pump $25 billion in emergency loans to U.S. automakers in exchange for a government ownership stake in Detroit's car companies.

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, and Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., are developing legislation that would let the auto industry tap into the $700 billion Wall Street rescue money, approved by Congress last month, to fund their business operations.

..... Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Wednesday that the auto sector was "critical" but that the financial industry rescue was not designed for car companies.

..... Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, which is home to two Ford Motor Co. plants, was noncommittal about additional aid. In a statement, his spokesman said Congress should move to speed the release of a $25 billion loan program passed earlier to help the carmakers develop fuel-efficient vehicles

.... Frank's legislation would carve out a portion of the $700 billion financial rescue program for the Big Three automakers, letting the government take an equity stake in them in exchange for the loans. ....

..... The car companies would face tougher restrictions on awarding pay packages to executives and dividends to their shareholders than the financial companies that get a piece of the original bailout.

Auto executives, labor leaders and other industry proponents are seeking an immediate $25 billion loan to keep the companies operating. Union officials are also hoping for a separate $25 billion to help cover future health care obligations for retirees and their dependents.

Beyond the car companies, lawmakers may hear from a broad coalition of manufacturers seeking aid. Auto suppliers, which carry a wide manufacturing presence in Michigan, Indiana, Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee and Illinois, are seeking a piece of the rescue.

An AP story yesterday evening, blogged earlier today at NewsBusters and BizzyBlog, at least mentioned, though barely, the high labor cost structure that has been a millstone around the companies' necks for decades. This AP report has not a word.

As to Barney Frank's ownership proposal -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which Frank and his mostly Democratic colleagues allowed to fester to the point where they wrecked the economy, are known to the Wall Street Journal and yours truly as " Barney's Rubble" for a good reason. It is beyond me why we should rely on the Massachusetts congressman for financial advice on assisting troubled companies.

The $25 billion the UAW wants for future health care obligations has to do with the fact that it now runs its retirees' health care. All that $25 billion will do is keep the union from imposing necessary cost-control measures on a retiree group long used to gold-plated coverage. The money won't do a thing to develop or build a single car.

Thomas's AP report also failed to note that:

  • The Treasury bailout, which was supposedly meant to buy up troubled assets, has instead largely been used to buy equity stakes in financial companies. This UK Times Online story reports that Paulson has now completely abandoned buying troubled assets.
  • As the beggars continue to line up and lobby hard, that same UK Times story reports that Paulson has already gone through all but $60 billion of the first $350 billion installment of the $700 billion bailout.

Soon the list of those who have not been bailed out may shorter than the list of those who have.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters


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from a Michelle Malkin thread on unions

MOVE OUT OF MICHIGAN AND INTO A UNION-HATING STATE LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA!

No! Please don’t move down here. The one thing that is beginning to
turn the South into purple and then blue states (like North Carolina)
is all the idiots that move out of jobless Northeastern states to the
South — and want to make our states unsustainable like the ones they
just left!

Taxes have shot up in North Carolina since the migration of large numbers of Northerners.

Stay in Pennsylvania. Stay in Ohio. Stay in New York. Stop bring
your backwards-@ss (sorry, something we always hear) politics down
here. Ruin your own states!

--

That's a powerful argument that I've heard in Arizona, a formerly very conservative state, where they've seen Democrats fleeing the mess they created in California begin creating the same mess in Arizona!  So, I retract my thoughts of seeing big auto move from Detroit.

 

This is what happens as a result of bail-outs

The liberals are used to bailing out all kinds of things in the States that they control. One of the results is that very few make the connection between bad choices and economic consequenses. 

The Unions are a perfect example. They morphed from employee protection and advocates into a kind of organized extortion racket. The result is that the labor costs in the US are WAY WAY too expensive for most industries to afford. Consequently they go to foreign countries and import their products. Sure, the unions got high pay for their members for a little while, but they drove the industry away because they created an unsustainable environment.

Rather than pissing and moaning about the companies that try and save money to be competitive, the unions never question whether an un-skilled assembly line worker making $50 an hour is part of the problem? That's around $100,000 per year without overtime.

Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!

Alan Keyes / Sarah Palin - 2012

Not only that, T, they

Not only that, T, they promise their members a gold-plated retirement package and then expect the taxpayers to fund it when they can't:

The United Auto Workers wants a separate $25 billion "to help
cover future health care obligations for retirees and their dependents." 
(emphasis added)

Now we're supposed to bail out the union too??

How's that for chutzpah!! 

 

 

mb... Speaking of Gold...

mb...

Speaking of Gold... did you know they are already advertising a comrade Obama Gold dollar commerative coin on TV? My wife told me about it, then said she was glad I did not see the ad because I may have thrown something at our TV.

Comrade Obama Post Election Stupidity

 

 

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Good evening CT

This is the reason democrats support homosexual marriage - they are illegally married to the unions. I think the same about the coin that I do about the muslim stamp put out by the postal service.

Both equally worthless in

Both equally worthless in my book!

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The United Auto Workers

The foreign companies who build in America have far lower labor costs. Is this bailout an effort an attempt to save the unions or the Big 3? If it's the unions, how does that help anyone?

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LET 'EM FAIL

They need money to help develop fuel efficient cars ?  Why start now ?  They've had decades !  And they need more money for Health Care costs for their unioned employees....How about laying off the donuts and cigarettes ?  If they get the money, will they start showing up for work, on time ? 

Auto industry - mismanaged

Auto industry - mismanaged by finance schmucks since WWII. Now unsustainable model in global market (high labor and legacy costs).

Unions - Bad management couldn't prevent them from becoming stronger. Unions took everything the execs gave them. Used clout in Lansing and DC to beat the auto model into the ground.

Gubment, particularly Dems. Fought against any labor reforms that were reasonable. Helped make model unsustainable.

Blame all of above. Bailout is a band-aid, but Dems know they can dictate terms. They will bailout firms (unions really) and then they have to subsidize industry to compete without restructuring labor costs. Therefore, they get say in company and voters.

Result is socialism, but preventable. Look at oil firms, software and Wal-Mart. Play tough, and I maen tough, on all fronts to remain profitable and independent. 

 

Democrats have to bail out unions, which is the core of the bailout.

OMG. This bailout is like

OMG. This bailout is like one giant snowball en route to hell. For the second time in my life I am truly scared for this country. (First time being 9/11.)

suzy,

You are justified in being scared. After 9/11 President Bush brought the economy back in a mere 4 years. Then 2006 and the dems start to bring it down again. Now what do you think an Obama will do with his "9/11" (when it comes)?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

big 3 bailout

Let's see, the original bailout, $700 billion which we paid $850 billion for and had to have or total economic  collaspe was inevitable, now has to be "refocused" with not $1 put into the sytem for increasing credit.  Now the criminal Barney,"Mr. Finance"Frank wants to buy into auto companies that may not succeed after the bailout because the bailout does nothing to address the problems which plague the big 3.  Paulson gives over $100 billion to shore up AIG which his old firm Goldman Saks has a huge stake in and not $1 has gone to easing the credit crunch, the supposed problem that this was designed to fix.  These people would screw up a 1 car funeral. It's America RIP, by the time these clowns get through.

MM they not only bring it

MM they not only bring it down in 2 years, they constantly blame "the failed policies of the Bush administration" for the collapse.

I'm still waiting for Her Speakerness and the Democrats to come through on their "common-sense plan to lower fuel prices"....

Oh, wait, gas prices are coming down now!  Was this their plan??

Hi mb... ...and those gas

Hi mb...

...and those gas prices wil rise again after O reverses Pres. Bush's EO on drilling...let alone what congress will do.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

darn that pesky supply and

darn that pesky supply and demand thing! 

 

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Let the Big 3 fail and the

Let the Big 3 fail and the UAW along with them.

This is my taxpayer money being used to float the big3 and I say NO!!! Let one of these car mfg fail and I betcha you see the others get their acts together.  ENOUGH! 

The $25 billion the UAW wants for future health care obligations has to do with the fact that it now runs its retirees' health care. All that $25 billion will do is keep the union from imposing necessary cost-control measures on a retiree group long used to gold-plated coverage. The money won't do a thing to develop or build a single car.

UAW has ruined American Automakers!

No to the big three

Not only "NO" to the big Three, but "Hell No" to bailing out the UAW and it band of thugs. They want the taxpayer to pay for them to keep benefits for it's members, while people are loosing their jobs and benefits in all sectors of the job market, I think not.

Let them file chapter 11 and break up the union extortion, America will be better off.

 

 

 

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'
- Ronald Reagan

A bail-out on one condition...

I would only support a bail-out if it included a contingency that the automakers immediately begin to re-tool so they can manufacture more fuel-efficient cars. This is something they should have done 20 years, but never have. There is no reason why Detroit can't make cars that will get the same or better mileage than any Japanese or Korean-made car. One thing the eggheads who are criticizing the bail-out ignore is that millions of families will be adversely effected by the failure of that industry. It's not just about economics. People forget that it was the creation of the auto industry in this country that was largely responsible for the emergence of the Middle Class. The unions may be extorting higher pay and benefits from the automakers, but these people pay taxes and generate a lot of purchasing power that helps "drive" our economy.

One thing the eggheads who

One thing the eggheads who are criticizing the bail-out ignore is that millions of families will be adversely effected by the failure of that industry. It's not just about economics.

It's about MY economics!  I, along with millions of taxpayers will have to pay MORE taxes if this bail-out passes.  Will my business get a bail-out when MY taxes soar?  Who will bail-out ALL the families who work in my (non-auto) company??

UAW also wants 25 BILLION!  What is wrong with these people? 

I would hope y'all are

I would hope y'all are doing more than just bitching here about this BS

Just fried off emails to my reps in DC  reminding them that rinos WILL NOT BE TOLERATED   NO MORE BAILOUTS

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