Here's the description by Dawson Bell of the Detroit Free Press of what happened during a service at Mt. Hope Church in Lansing, Michigan on Sunday:
Pro-gay protest disrupts Lansing-area church's services
A well-known Lansing-area evangelical church was the target of a raucous demonstration by gay anarchists during Sunday services.
The disruption came from a group that calls itself Bash Back, and involved demonstrations outside the church and inside the sanctuary while services were under way, said Mt. Hope Church communications director David Williams.
Members of the group inside the church shouted pro-gay slogans, threw leaflets, unfurled a banner and pulled a fire alarm, then hastily departed, Williams said. There were no injuries, he said.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓Williams said the episode was over in minutes. Eaton County Sheriff's Department deputies arrived quickly, Williams said, but no arrests were made.
One would think that there was no violence, or any attempt at it. To say the least, eyewitness accounts beg to differ, including this one from RightMichigan, which reads, in part:
On Sunday, November 9, 2008 Michigan liberals sat peacefully through announcements, worship and prayer for the sick, our nation and our President-elect before staging a coordinated, disgusting and repulsive attack on worshipers and the broader concept of the church itself at Lansing's Mount Hope Church.
The lefties were a part of a liberal organization known as Bash Back Lansing and their collection of radical blogs, .... (which) called on "queers and trannies" from across the state and the region to converge on Lansing for what they refer to as an "action." ..... their broader goal is stated plainly on one of their lefty blogs.
"I can tell you that we are targeting a well-known anti-queer, anti-choice radical right wing establishment."
..... Wearing secret-service style ear pieces and microphones they received the "go" from their ringleader and off they went.
Prayer had just finished when men and women stood up in pockets across the congregation, on the main floor and in the balcony. "Jesus was gay," they shouted among other profanities and blasphemies as they rushed the stage. Some forced their way through rows of women and kids to try to hang a profane banner from the balcony while others began tossing fliers into the air. Two women made their way to the pulpit and began to kiss.
Their other props? I'll let them tell you in their own words... from another of their liberal blogs:
"(A) video camera, a megaphone, noise makers, condoms, glitter by the bucket load, confetti, pink fabric...yeh."
The "open minded" and "tolerant" liberals ran down the aisles and across the pews, hoping against hope to catch a "right winger" on tape daring to push back (none did). And just in case their camera missed the target, they had a reporter in tow. According to a source inside the church yesterday there was a "journalist" from the Lansing City Pulse along for the ride .....
Read the whole, painful thing.
The Lansing City Pulse's Nathan Harris was apparently the paper's representative, providing background, a weak excuse, and pluralizing an illegal act that the Free Press's Bell said only happened once (bolds are mine):
The “action” began early Sunday morning at the Northstar Center on Lathrop Street in Lansing where a group of around 20 protesters gathered. Pink bandanas, signs, a rainbow-colored “Bash Back!” flag and a pink, wooden cross were distributed among about half the group — the “outside team.” The rest — “inside team” — were dressed in conservative clothes and carried Bibles and stacks of fliers, intending to blend in to the church‘s 11:30 a.m. “contemporary-laid back service.”
City Pulse was alerted to the Bash Back event through a press release and had no prior knowledge of where the “action” would take place or what it would entail.
.... The Rev. John Elieff, “Helps Minister” at Mt. Hope Church, said Bash Back members disrupted the service by bursting into the sanctuary, throwing fliers, hanging a banner from the balcony and pulling fire alarms.
“It was an unwelcome and violent demonstration,” he said.
The headline at the Lansing State Journal's coverage called the perpetrators "gay rights protestors."
Belaboring what is by now terribly predictable: A Google News search at 11 AM ET on ["mount hope" church michigan] for November 8-12 returned 14 results, none of which were Old Media sources outside of Michigan. The New York Times (search is on "Mount Hope," in quotes), as expected, has nothing relevant.
News consumers who follow blogs know more about this incident than traditional media consumers; even lefty blogs are noting what happened, if only to beg outfits like Bash Back to cool it.
If alternative newspapers are going to assist violent protesters, if local papers aren't going to tell readers what actually happened, and if national newspapers are going to act as if nothing happened, who needs any of them?
—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters
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I'd be 'pushing back'
November 12, 2008 - 11:33 ET by SickofLibsI'd be 'pushing back' against the Eaton County Sheriff's Dept. as to why no arrests were made.
I'm no lawman, but off the top of my head I can think of a number of violations here, the least of which would be yanking a fire alarm.
I guess they think it was just a "prank".
They should also charge
November 12, 2008 - 11:39 ET by KevroyThey should also charge them with costs to clean up the church. Glitter and confetti isnt easy to clean up. Assault charges for traumitizing children and church goers.
Somebody needs to converge on these idiots 'offices' and give them a dose of the same.
Offices? More like
November 12, 2008 - 12:23 ET by SickofLibsOffices? More like basements.
As someone who has had a recent spate of totally bogus traffic tickets in my state costing me upwards of a $1000, I registered my displeasure with Sheriff M. Raines' version of politically correct law enforcement at his website.
But media attention is what they WANT
November 12, 2008 - 12:32 ET by RoverI agree to charge them with whatever crimes were committed, and allow the church to take them to civil court for damages.
But media attention is exactly what they're looking for. Do we really want to give it to them? That would only encourage them, and others like them, to do more of the same, and to turn it up a notch. Eventually somebody's going to get hurt, probably one of them, and I can only imagine the manufactured outrage from the leftists then. They'll make some idiot leftist loon in a hospital bed with a dislocated shoulder into a martyr.
When a kid throws a tantrum, you don't give him what he wants as a reward.
Rover
You've got the right idea
November 12, 2008 - 12:37 ET by moderncommentaries83I think we should give them *exactly* what they want. Namely, this is a group of gay anarchists. So abolish the government and the government protections (read: hate crimes legislation) that protect the homosexual minority in this nation.
See what happens to them then, when they can't hide behind the walls of hate crimes legislation.
I'm not advocating violence, but I think it's digustingly ironic these people want to overthrow the very government that made it possible for them to do these despicable acts and get away with it.
Oh, wouldn't the irony be rich if we gave them what they were really after?
gay rights "protest"
November 12, 2008 - 11:35 ET by east tennessee johnIn the Constitution I know, there was to be guaranteed freedom of religion and its practice. I suppose this becomes another "negative" right under the new regeime.
Why didn't the police take care of the protesters inside?
November 12, 2008 - 11:36 ET by PamFrom the LSJ:
Why not?
Why not?
November 12, 2008 - 11:45 ET by moderncommentaries83Simple, really.Their
Horrible
November 12, 2008 - 11:50 ET by cvgbuckeyeI agree that this is horrible and those responsible should be exposed to the legal system; they should pay a price.
Having said that; we Christians are used to this; we have read about it in the Bible; we have been thrown into the "Fiery Furnace"; the "Lion's Den"; hung upside down. In some countries TODAY, being found with a Bible in your possession or converting to Christianity can be met with the death penalty.
When Sarah Palin, an Evangelical, is not ashamed to be a Christian and says so, Chris Matthews, another Christian, goes on the public airways and says that this kind of Christian talk is dangerous and has no place in political discourse, AND a whole bunch of Christians will agree with him. There are explainable reasons why Matthews takes this position and he needs strong correction that he has apparantly never received in the Catholic church.
What else is new?
Because they know they are safe from Christians
November 12, 2008 - 11:52 ET by c5thenThe congregation would probably pray for them rather then press any charges against them.
They did show how mature and tolerant they are of other peoples beliefs and life-style choices. While Christains tell them that thier behavior is wrong and they need to think about their choices, they get angry and disrupt meetings, get voilent and pull fire alarms. They are out of control children who do not like the adults telling them to behave.
Since they have set the bar so low here, would it be OK for anti-gay groups to do likewise at one of their gathering places?
These groups like Bash Back and others would be better described as cultural terrorists. Think like them or they will attack you.
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
Alan Keyes / Sarah Palin - 2012
Why were no arrests made?
November 12, 2008 - 11:53 ET by Hunter12Why were no arrests made? The obvious answer is that the deputies who responded had closet sympathies for the protesters. If these people ran through a crowded church service and threw pamphlets and confetti, all you have to do is find one person in the congregation with confetti in an eye and you've got an assault. A lot of churches videotape the services for shut-ins and parishioners in nursing homes and such. It would be interesting to find out if a video exists. Think about the irony, a group of people demostrating in search of more personal freedom, trampling on the rights of others.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Why no arrest?
November 12, 2008 - 12:00 ET by moderncommentaries83Simple, really. They're Christians, so they deserve it. Indeed, Canada's Human Rights Commissions have basically said Christians can never be offended and can never be the victims of hate crimes (http://ezralevant.co...). So we deserve whatever harrassment comes our way; it's our fault for not being politically correct. The law will not protect us because politicans have decided we aren't worthy of protection.
A group of raging liberal feminists did the same thing to a Catholic Church in Canada (and worse - they threw soiled tampons and sanitary napkins in the sanctuary) and got away with a slap on the wrist. And it will get worse.
Now that the United States Council of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) has vowed to fight Obama's abhorrent abortion policies (including FOCA), Catholics will be the next target. If Obama has a two-term presidency, I would not be surprised if the First Amendment protection on free expression of religion is scaled back significantly or repealed outright.
You *know* his "National Civilian Security Force" is going to not be concerned with the anti-American, anti-life, anti-Semitic ramblings of the mosque down the road (because that might offend someone and isn't "multicultural" enough), but they will be paying close attention to the church down the block.
Time to lock and load, Christians. Time to lock and load. And, for you Catholics, it's time to show the world the meaning of the phrase "Church Militant"...we have to stand shoulder to shoulder with our brothers and sisters in Christ because we're all in the sights of the anti-religious government people in this nation stupidly elected.
They did. Per this World Net Daily article (http://wnd.com/index...):
That's right. Those people, those Christians, that are supposedly so hateful, so bigoted, so violent and mean didn't lay a hand on the protesters (and they would have been justified removing them by non-lethal force). They prayed for them.
Meanwhile, the protesters are out there, probably preparing to do the same thing to another church, or worse.
Compare and contrast, people. Who is really more tolerant, peaceful, and compassionate?
You're right.
November 12, 2008 - 12:19 ET by attorneygirlI agree with everything you wrote. Good job and well said.
Believe me
November 12, 2008 - 13:09 ET by GeorgiePraying for them will make them even more angry—that is the extent of their mental disorder. They define their lives based on their sexual preference. They haven't really accepted what they are, had they done so, they would not try and extend the scope of their homosexual unions to traditional marriage.
Church checklist:
November 12, 2008 - 11:44 ET by R D Helm1) Kids
2) Wife
3) Bible
4) Extra doughnut wrapped and tucked into inside coat pocket.
5) Gun
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
This is how it started against the Jews before WWII
November 12, 2008 - 12:15 ET by attorneygirlBeware.
This kind of hate is the exact same thing that happened to the Jews in Germany.
History shows us that persecution precedes policy.
Our country is in trouble if we continue to allow churches (of any and all kinds) to be persecuted in this way.
Look only to Germany and to the Holocost.
And we have just voted into power a Marxist, and are facing a bad economy, terrorists who want to destroy us,a liberal congress, and an ignorant, lazy populace. This is a recipe for the growth of a dictatorship.
You're exactly right
November 12, 2008 - 12:31 ET by moderncommentaries83That's historically accurate and astute. But since our schools teach a revisionist version of history (where religious people are always the bad guys, and where Bush = Hitler), who but those of us paying attention will make the connection?
Few.
Until it's too late.
I was going to call them "tyranically b*st*rds", but that might be too nice and I can't get away with what I'm really thinking.
It makes me sick to my stomach, but I am ready and willing to be a martyr for the cause if it comes to that.
If you 're correct with the parallels
November 12, 2008 - 13:27 ET by ForeverOnTheRightto Nazi Germany, there I said it, the dangerous words, then The Anti-Christ may not be far from making the stage. As a Christian I am looking forward to His return, it means I am out of here.
Has it ever occurred to you
November 12, 2008 - 15:01 ET by NL207Has it ever occurred to you that the AntiChrist might have just been elected POTUS?
Anti-Christ?
November 12, 2008 - 15:17 ET by SemperrightI've thought about it but, to paraphrase the epic movie Roadhouse, "I thought he would be bigger"
I don't think he is slick enough to be the Anti-Christ. He may know the Anti-Christ but he's not the the Anti-Christ. Just a run of the mill commie with a God complex and a good wrapper
Semper Fi
"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in time
of moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
The Bible says the
November 12, 2008 - 15:57 ET by NL207The Bible says the AntiChrist will be preceded by several false antichrists.
I have no clue if Obama is any of these figures, but I do know he has an almost hypnotic effect on a great many people. They hear his empty generalizations and are completely unable to focus on the substance he represents.
Roadhouse? Try this: "Isn't that William Wallace?" "Can't be. Not tall enough."
I've thought about it but,
November 12, 2008 - 16:22 ET by Dan The Man 2I've thought about it but, to paraphrase the epic movie Roadhouse - Opinions vary!
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
"There were no injuries"
November 12, 2008 - 12:17 ET by RESTLESS 1If I had been there, there would have been. Count on it.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Yeah... to me, the most
November 12, 2008 - 12:31 ET by SickofLibsYeah... to me, the most extraordinary part of this story is that NOT ONE PERSON did anything? I'm not talking about a fistfight, but not even grabbing/restraining some psycho dressed like a islamic terrorist running down your pew at you as was described in the full article?
Turning the other cheek is one thing, acting like a bunch of sheep is another. But I wasn't there, so I shouldn't really judge that.
SOL
November 12, 2008 - 12:37 ET by RESTLESS 1That's what strikes me too. At least restrain these morons if for no other reason than to protect the women and children from being run over.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
It wouldn't have went down
November 12, 2008 - 12:56 ET by SickofLibsIt wouldn't have went down like that in my church. The doors would have locked shut from the inside and even the grannies would have been doing some body slamming.
But of course, with traditional Christian sensitivity.
SOL
November 12, 2008 - 13:06 ET by RESTLESS 1"But of course, with traditional Christian sensitivity."
:)
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Sounds like we need to
November 12, 2008 - 15:20 ET by SemperrightSounds like we need to start beating our plowshears into .357 magnums with pacmyr grips and black talon hollow points.
Semper Fi
"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in time
of moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Semper... I don't know,
November 12, 2008 - 15:23 ET by Clear thinkerSemper...
I don't know, gun sales have been booming for the last couple of months, and the day after the election, gun sales skyrocketed.
Soldiers Dissed By Obama Liberals
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
CT
November 12, 2008 - 15:25 ET by SemperrightEver see protesters outside an NRA meeting?
That's all I'm sayin
Semper Fi
"The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who, in time
of moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
I agree restless
November 12, 2008 - 12:40 ET by cvgbuckeyeLike attorneygirl said, many things started this way in 1930's Germany. IT WON"T HAPPEN AGAIN and IT WON"T HAPPEN HERE and IT WON"T HAPPEN IN MY CHURCH. By the time we would be done with them they would be begging for the police to come; I guarantee it!!!!!!!!!!
God will be with us, not against us. These folks better start reading a little about the history of the Jews, God's Chosen People, in their battles with the ungodly. AND, after Christ's Death and Resurrection, The Church replaced the Jews as God's Chosen People.
This happened in my town.. I read it this morning in
November 12, 2008 - 12:23 ET by JTP"The Lansing State Urinal" as we call it here. The "City Pulse" paper is owned and edited by a local gay guy. He is sometimes on the local radio here. He seems like a level headed decent guy so I don't understand why IF he knew of this before it happened that he let it happen. (not sure of this) On another note.. I know many of the people that attend this church. They are FAR from conservative, though I assume that some members are. This group accomplished nothing other than making total asses of themselves and moving more people to the opposing side. If this is their way of promoting tolerance they have failed miserably.
"I need more cowbell!" SNL
The funny thing is,
November 12, 2008 - 12:41 ET by RESTLESS 1These faggots, (yeah, I said it, I make a distinction between homosexuals and faggots), run around acting like second class citizens, then are angered that they are treated like second class citizens.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I know many gay people
November 12, 2008 - 13:57 ET by choselife3xAnd none of them would act like these jerks did.
Sure didn't help their 'cause' any.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Probably not a good thing to
November 12, 2008 - 22:25 ET by Conservative VoiceProbably not a good thing to say a bunch of gay men made total asses of themselves, just saying.
Christianity is under attact, and it will only get worse.
November 12, 2008 - 12:41 ET by R D HelmJust wait until this happens in our own country.
I wonder if our government law enforcement will do anything at all, or will we be left, as I suspect, on our own?
-Dave
Did this country just elect Obama/Biden, or was it Soros/Ayers?
This is why we have
November 12, 2008 - 12:51 ET by andophiroxiaThis is why we have guns--and we have a military that has sworn an oath to follow the Constitution and to protect the country. The President is included to as long as he follows the UCMJ.
Obama may be that stupid to test it, but then again--he's a politician if if he wants to get elected and to stay in power. That means appeasing everyone.
I'm sure they'll throw a few punches our way, but there's been enough infighting in the Dem party so that when the honeymoon period is over, you bet they're going to rip each other apart.
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
The President is included
November 12, 2008 - 14:15 ET by Dan The Man 2The President is included to as long as he follows the UCMJ. - They are above the law. I want to see his Birth Certificate and where did his money come from and ACORN. He is not to be trusted as recent as the Presidents meeting where he leaked the information. Obama is for change, a change to a dictatorship.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Oh I agree with you there.
November 12, 2008 - 15:32 ET by andophiroxiaOh I agree with you there. I think he should have full disclosure and he needs to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is legible and will support our laws. I know he's going to try at least to skate through them.
However, I do notice all the Clinton appointees he's been getting. I wonder if the Clintons are simultaneously trying to get back power as well as 'teach him a lesson'? He'll try to ram things through with the hype... but that only lasts so long...
If hatred has no where to go, then it turns from within. They did it with Leiberman and Hilary. God knows where it will go. I think we just have to deflect any blows that come our way and just watch the infighting.
3....2.....1.... ;)
“You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ~ Winston Churchill
Gay activists will stop at
November 12, 2008 - 13:13 ET by candidcameracatGay activists will stop at nothing until the church is silenced because they don't want anyone saying that their behavior is wrong. Why do you think the tried and succeeded in getting Dr. Laura's TV show cancelled? So much for the liberal notion of I disagree with what you say but will defend until death your right to say it. The left doesn't value liberty except for sexual liberty.
I'm not the only one fearful of a dictatorship here.....
November 12, 2008 - 13:30 ET by attorneygirlIn The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot, Naomi Wolf takes a historical look at the rise of Fascism, outlining the 10 steps necessary for a Fascistic group (or government) to destroy the democratic character of a nation-state and subvert the social/political liberty previously exercised by its citizens:
The book details how this pattern was implemented in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and elsewhere, and analyzes its emergence and application in American political affairs since the September 11 attacks.
Attorneygirl, While I
November 12, 2008 - 15:09 ET by ConservativeRexAttorneygirl, While I have issues with Naomi Wolf on nearly any issue, you do make some excellent points.
A true Fascist, the true face of Fascism, started in the French Revolution. Fascist is an Italian word. Mussolini coined the word himself. His group was called the "Fascisti".
The exception I have with Wolf's list is the main point of the face of Fascism, the Fascisim (with a capital F) that Mussolini developed, included the exclusion of religion. Mussolini hated the Roman Catholic church! And harrassed them at any and every opportunity.
Of course, Hitler was an athiest. He loathed Christians. Yes. you can see the beginnings of practiced fascism in this country. Obami has precedents for it here, but, that's for another day.
Peaceful Protest
November 12, 2008 - 14:03 ET by GothampcThese people think it's their "civil rights" yet they don't seem to be following Martin Luther King's rules for peaceful protest.
gay invasion of church
November 12, 2008 - 14:38 ET by charlietexasIf they come to Texas and go into a church I am worshiping in to disrupt, I'll fight back....in the face of hate crimes..I'll defend the right to worship as I choose in peace. I believe that they may have even violated my right to assemble and worship.
So be it.
Their Freedom of Religion
November 12, 2008 - 22:22 ET by Conservative VoiceTheir Freedom of Religion somehow trumps ours
If organized church members
November 12, 2008 - 15:21 ET by TN MomIf organized church members had disrupted a pro-gay meeting, it would have been front-page news for days!
Eaton County Sheriff's Department deputies arrived quickly, but no arrests were made.
To Serve and To Protect??? Time for the Eaton County Sheriff to step down. NOW!!!!!
Or even as their commercial
November 12, 2008 - 22:21 ET by Conservative VoiceOr even as their commercial implied, Mormon Missionaries actually going into a home of a gay couple and going through personal items...destroying property etc....Nope, you get a Grandma holding a cross, and gets attacked, and we get barely a peep ( in fact we get a lecture on how both sides are hateful )
Unless we as Christians
November 12, 2008 - 16:10 ET by ConservativeRexUnless we as Christians fight back, and I mean fight, this will continue to happen. They think Christians will not fight back, they will be proven wrong.
If these people are so brave, why don't they storm a mosque? They don't because they know damn good and well they really will get their heads handed to them!
There might be something to that.
How about doing this stunt
November 12, 2008 - 17:33 ET by Dan DiegoHow about doing this stunt in Jerry Wright's "church" or Farragone's Nation of Islame...
so, let me see...
November 12, 2008 - 16:25 ET by jazzact13...if a group of people can interrupt a perfectly legal church service, doing the things they did, shouting the things they said, and basically acting like spoiled kids, that's find and no one's arrested?
But if someone had stood up to them and even pushed back, that person would have been the 'bad guy'?
At what point did the world lose even the semblance of common sense?
"Thoroughly worldly people never understand even the world; they rely altogether on a few cynical maxims which are not true."
Chesterton, Orthodoxy
I wish they would go inside
November 12, 2008 - 16:35 ET by dark_dsI wish they would go inside a mosque and try that crap .. that would actually be funny .... Im basically a liberterian on the gay thing .. I just dont care .. I used to but I dont anymore ....but what I love is the left shows time and time how intolerant they are ... they also show how afraid they are .. they know christians wont do anything but seriously if they went into a radical mosque they would get their heads handed to them
That's right dark...
November 12, 2008 - 17:03 ET by MrDebaterThey would go into a mosque in Iran, but Ahmadijenad has said there are no gays in Iran...oops...no gays in Iran? What happened to them? These gays only pull this crap in a free country...if being gay is not a choice, how do you explain bi-sexuals? Gay lifestyle is a choice, skin color isn't...so don't try to tell me it's a civil rights issue...that's bull...gays have every right to marry just like any other normal person...their rights are not being denied. They just can't marry a person of the same sex. YUKK..Hey, if your gay...a note to you..it's an EXIT not an ENTRANCE!
Or Also An African American Church...
November 12, 2008 - 18:14 ET by King_WilliamThey would have had a Can of (the Special Stuff) handed to them..., or body bags would have possibly been needed..
BTW, why aren't they protesting in South Central L.A. since the black community went against the gay community in considerable numbers....:)
Since when did
November 12, 2008 - 17:26 ET by MrDebatergay behavior become "normal"...if these people are saying they have no choice in being gay...explain "bisexuals" to me then.
it's because gays are
November 13, 2008 - 01:48 ET by red_dragon311it's because gays are either genetic defectives, or geneticly handicapped.
see geneticly a male is attracted to a female to make sure he is able to pass on his line. gays are broken ...if infact beng gay is NOT a choice, there is a broken gene that makes a person gay, being attracted to the same sex is in no way, shape or form natural.
humans are the only animals that have a select few that have intercourse with other humans of the same sex. Find me a study that shows otherwise ans I will show you that the person behind that study has a gay agenda.
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It is amazing what they get
November 13, 2008 - 02:24 ET by Conservative VoiceIt is amazing what they get away with. On the one hand they claim its a life style choice, but on the other they don't want to hold any responsibility for that choice, so claim its biology. Of course this argument fails, because alcoholics learn to be sober...and since the gay community doesn't like to be thought of as sick or have defective genes like unto an alcoholic, they claim its a life style choice.
Nor does the gay gene answer the question as to why people are Bi-sexual. ( and in fact those rare cases where homosexual acts happen in nature, when given the opposite sex, they take the opportunity to do so...I don't know of any case where a certain animal is exclusively homosexual...could we determine this? How do we ask an animal do they prefer same sex sex? )
To say gay people get turned on by the same sex, well that doesn't say much, because the hand is neither male or female, yet does the job.
Marriage is more than sex. And its more than hospital rights. Its about the family. If a gay couple want to live together, that does not bother me...it becomes my business when they demand that I sanction the act.
because the hand is
November 13, 2008 - 09:31 ET by red_dragon311because the hand is neither male or female, yet does the job.
LOL that comment made morning i am still laughing....because it's the truth
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