Two Bloggers' Work Makes Closeness of Obama-Ayers Ties More Obvious Than Ever

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(See Oct. 20 Update at the end of this post.)

Two recent finds noted by bloggers have put further dents in the Obama campaign's core claim about its candidate's relationship with Bill Ayers, the unapologetic domestic terrorist who has not ruled out recidivism, as seen here at Obama's FightTheSmears.com home page:

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The first was discovered by SeeDubya, former weekend blogger at Michelle Malkin's site. SeeDubya came out of retirement for one morning to note a neighborly reference to Obama by Ayers in the former Weather Underground leader's 1998 book on parenting.

The second is the revelation by blogger Verum Serum that Obama and Ayers were located on the same floor of a what I can show was a small building -- for three years.

Here is the passage SeeDubya spotted in Ayers's "A Kind and Just Parent" (a fuller text scan is at the link):

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Ayers's take on Farrakhan and his security detail also would seem to raise questions about the nature of Obama's relationship with the Nation of Islam leader, including whether the Obamas feel they owe Farrakhan or his flock any future favors for the extra level of protection Ayers clearly feels the Fruit have provided.

Then there are Verum Serum's findings:

(The) Chicago Annenberg Challenge website from 2002 shows the total amount of funds given to Bill Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop from 1995 to 2001. ..... According to this page, the total given under Barack Obama’s direct supervision was $1,056,162. Adding that amount to the money given by the Joyce Foundation and Woods Fund during Obama’s tenure brings the grand total to $1,968,718. Just shy of two million dollars! That’s a lot of scratch, to put it bluntly. And don’t forget, this doesn’t count the 3/4 million that went to John Ayers during the same time period.

..... (Also) Bill Ayers and Barack Obama shared an office. Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop, the one Obama directed all that money too (sic) is located at 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois 60607.

..... In 1998, the address for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where Obama presumably worked, was 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois 60607.

Verum Serum has screen grabs supporting his same-address claim at his post, including web archive and tax return evidence that both the Annenberg Challenge and the Small Schools Project were located on the third floor.

If that was indeed the case, this Google Earth look, with address identifiers added by me, would indicate that there was not much, if any, elbow room between the two organizations (a larger version of the graphic is here):

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115 S. Sangamon appears to have been demolished (CORRECTION: The building still stands -- See Update below). A search at the Cook County Assessor's office for addresses between 100-150 S. Sangamon has no such listing:

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The orange box added to the Google Earth shot approximates where 115 S. Sangamon roughly is.

With each additional finding, certainly including the ones noted here, it becomes even more obvious that the Fight the Smears site is where the "outright false" claims reside.

It also becomes ever clearer that Old Media's steadfast refusal to investigate the Obama-Ayers relationship beyond the most superficial level has been journalistically negligent, more than likely deliberately so.

"Tenuous," schmenuous.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

UPDATE, Oct. 20: Correction -- 115 S. Sangamon still exists, while not being on Google Earth (what's THAT all about?).

It is on a "Demolition Hold List" with the City of Chicago (HT FReepers and Gateway Pundit). Here's a picture:

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Another view is here.

Relevant floor space: 30x80, maybe 30x100--about the same maximum square footage I speculated about earlier (speculation since removed).

Relative proximity of 3rd floor occupants -- pretty well established.

 

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters


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Obama

Barry Obama is a dangerous man. He wants to "change " America, but he's only a puppet for more sinister forces. As a young man in the 60's and 70's I witnessed his type first hand. We are in deep soup, folks. The 60's radicals have brainwashed the likes of Barry and Michelle for years. Be warned, although it appears to be too late. Sad.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Yep..you're right Ives

I was a 60/70's survivor too.  The mentality that still lives in some of these people is as dangerous as anything they did then.  They've begun the dismantling of America's fundamental system and have cleverly, insiduously figured out how to do it from the inside out with the patience of generational retribution found in the Arab and Chinese world.  They have indoctrinated many of our youth and disadvantaged with promises of  Barack's "pie", and then annointed Barry to respresent their interests.  Barry's just the front man.  He's the "one" who can bring out the many who  are blinded by the superficiality.  Address a fact and they will tell a boldfaced lie, knowing that enough sheeple won't bother to look further. Re: the debates.  John: "Barack .. you said this".  Barry: (baldfaced lie) "No I didn't". WTF?.. it's on tape?  Lookitup!

The Ayers/Soros/Raines/Rezko/Wright collaborators  have pulled the thread on the foundations of our democracy and are gleefully watching the basics come crashing down. They are tweaking the basics of economy, freedom of the press, voter fraud, exploiting racism, pandering to white guilt, and promoting 'the savior has come bit' to a weary world to do it. What do they want in it's place?  Communist ideals and a majority of sheeple.

There's a Mayan prophecy about the date Dec 24, 2012 being the end, or beginning of something very significant in the world - depending how you look at it.   A lot of other prophecies have pinpointed a similar date.  I'm not a prophecy nut but it is very interesting to watch this man who closely resemebles the Bibles' description of the anti-Christ come into our world with the charm, heritage and suprising influence predicted. And 2012 is interestingly just 4 yrs away.  Very sad indeed.

Barak 0bama - Afraction American

An excellent new video on

An excellent new video on YouTube about Obama and Ayers

http://www.youtube.c...

With? From?

I watched the video, and it refreshed in my mind something he said about Ayres during the debate with Senator Clinton. He said that Ayres was someone he "exchanged ideas from."

What does that mean? Obama is crafty. Everyone says that he's a great orator, but he is not. He often starts saying something without thinking the point through. What he is good at is changing the direction of what he's saying halfway or even three quarters of the way through.

When he started into the statement about the exchange of ideas [with] Bill Ayres he realized that he could not say the word with. Instead, he chose a worse word -- "from." I can't remember how that debate went. Clinton had an opportunity to pounce on Obama. She should've retorted, "just what ideas did you get from Mr. Ayres, Senator?"

The question still needs to be asked. Obama, like with Joe the Plumber, went down a bad oratorical path. He does it all the time but no one challenges him on these statements.

The guy is a flake, and he's a frontman for ilk like Dohrn and Ayres and Pfleger and Farrakhan. He slips up all the time. If the media scrutinized him at all, he would've been toast during the primaries.

The problem with him stumbling into oratorical mouse traps is while the media will not spring it on him, people like Vladmir Putin and Mahmoud Ahmadinijad (c.s.) will. He has stated that he will meet with leaders without pre-conditions. Well, I hope he has his danged teleprompter with him when he does.

His presidency will be disaster. I fear this bumbling dork negotiating America's foreign policy. He can't even handle a plumber for God's sakes.

Is that the address...

Is 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois 60607 the address where Øbama's chickens...

be comin' home...

to roost?

"Modern man is staggering and losing his balance because he is being pelted with little pieces of alleged fact which are native to the newspapers; and, if they turn out not to be facts, that is still more native to newspapers." -GKC

Isn't it interesting...

How many of the Senator's "connections" seem to share addresses?  There is this about Sangamon which seems to be a small address housing various entities.  And then there is that address at Elysian Fields that has several incarnations of ACORN housed in what seems to be a small house.

It takes a lawyer's mind to insist that such close quarters are not "close". 

If you plug the address

If you plug the address into google maps and enable the street view to pan 360 degrees around you will see what appears to be a recent construction site behind a chain link fence.

This may have been the prior location.

Also while searching around I found a link that showed the 1st floor in the same building was occupied by the ROTC.

Ayers must have loved that.

 

 

 

Also per current listing

Also per current listing 120 S Sangamon is the location of the SEIU for Chicago for one of their locations.

More birds of a feather...don't know how long that office has been there though.

 

If you dig into the

If you dig into the internet archive for the old CAC web pages you find they at one time occupied another location about two blocks away from this address

Chicago Annenberg Challenge
322 South Green Street, Suite 108
Chicago, IL. 60607
General (312) 413-5869
Fax  (312) 355-0856

 

1:  Start out going

1: 
Start out going SOUTH on S SANGAMON ST toward W ADAMS ST.

 0.2 mi
 

 

2: 
Turn LEFT onto W JACKSON BLVD.

 0.1 mi

 

3: 
Turn RIGHT onto S GREEN ST.

 0.0 mi

 

4: 
End at 322 S Green St Chicago, IL 60607-3555

 

 

Estimated Time: 1 minute Estimated Distance: 0.30 miles

excuse me righttothepoint

I can't help but to notice your name. Sorry, but I would think that somebody that gets right to the point, can get it said in one post and not four, back to back to back.

Real life video games are cool

Wow stunning. Now get

Wow stunning.

Now get back to me when you have something intelligent to say.

 

Did you miss Deanna Bellandi's AP whitewash of Ayers?

I don't recall seeing a reference to Deanna Belllandi's AP whitewash of Bill Ayers here. Whatever, he're's what my local paper ran Saturday: http://www.telegram.com/article/20081018/NEWS/810180380

And here is what Sol Stern wrote for the Wall Street Journal Thursday: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122411943821339043.html 

Compare the two. Perhaps more should be written here about what both wrote. But it seems better to point readers to the articles ASAP. We are living in a historic time for the mass news media in this country; never in this writer's memory has the press so undeniably flacked for one political party while flaying the other.

Much of the news media is blindly partisan, grossly incompetent, and extremely corrupt. Bellandi did not have to be as critical as Mr. Stern, but her article only barely hinted at the reality that Mr. Stern describes, preferring to fix on the high opinion of him held by other academics and the mayor of Chicago. 

From the Society of Professional Journalists' Preamble to its Code of Ethics:

"Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty.Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist’s credibility."

Most news organizations have grossly contravened that code of ethics in this political campaign, shattering any reason to trust their credibility. Why heed the voices or read the writing of people who do not tell the truth and are not fair?

 

 

Connect the dots ... Obama ... Dohrn ... Ayers ...

Fidel Castro and martialistic communism:

http://foia.fbi.gov/...

Did you know that Dohrn made a trip to Havana, Cuba in July of 1969?  Does anybody else smell cigar smoke  on Obama?

There are still 2 or 3

There are still 2 or 3 members of the group of Weathermen alumni who robbed the Brinks truck in Nyack NY hiding in exile in Cuba.

BTW that robbery happened while Obama and Ayers were both living in NYC at the time Obama was going to Columbia.

At the time news coverage was wall to wall SDS/Weatherman history with Ayers being plastered all over the papers and TV.

So for Obama to say it was only when I was 7 or 8 is a total crock and he had an example with a review of the history of Ayers before he went to Chicago and associated with him.

I still believe they hooked up in NYC while they both lived there.

But his statements that he was unaware of Ayers would have him required to be living under a rock with all the coverage surrounding the Brinks Truck robbery that went on for days and again when the trials occurred.

 

Excertp from 1976 FBI report on Dohrn and Ayers

WILLIAM CHARLES AYERS, Aka
Michael Joseph Rafferty, Jr.
Jules Michael Taylor,
Hank Anderson

BILL AYERS is a white male who was born on December
26,1944, in Oak Park, Illinois.  AYERS was one of the authors
of the "Weatherman Statement" upon which the WUO was founded
in 1969 and has been considered to be one of the leaders of
the organization since its founding.  Although AYERS was not
arrested during the WUO "Days of Rage" he was one of the
leaders of these riots.  AYERS was also one of the more
influential people attending the WUO "Flint, Michigan War
Council."  AYERS submerged into the underground in early 1970
and remains therein.  AYERS' younger brother RICHARD JAMES
AYERS, who is presently being sought by the FBI for desertion
from the military service, and his former sister-in-law
MELODY KAY ERMACHILD have also been active in the WUO
underground.

Foreign Traver and /or Contacts

On August 15, 1969, it was learned that AYERS was
scheduling himself to depart for Canada that date for the
purpose of conferring with a group of thirty individuals who
had been in Cuba during the recent past and who were du to
arrive by boat on August 16, 1969.  (It is noted that among
those individuals returning to the United States via Canada
at that time were such WUO functionaries as TED GOLD,
BERNARDINE DOHRN, DIANA OUGHTON, DIONNE DONGHI and ELEANOR
RASKIN.

On July 29, 1969, AYERS made a speech on the campus
of the University of Oregon, Eugene, Oregon, during which
time he discussed the SDS's role in the Venceremos Brigade
and promoted this trip to Cuba.  During the course of this
speech AYERS commented as follows in response to a question
about the Brigade:

In November and beginning January, SDS
was involved in sending 150 people, both times
to Cuba to cut cane, to cut sugar, as par of
Cuba's program to create, to put out 50 million,
or what is it 100 million, 10 million tons of
sugar.

AYERS continued as follows:

They are not being paid because they are
not honkeys who need to get paid in order to do
something, in order to serve the people, and
what they're going to do is, there will be
about 75 SDS people on each trip and about 75
people from, recruited from the Black Panther
Party and Young (illegible) organizations,
and other black and brown organizations that
will go to Cuba, are going to live and learn
about the country, by going to work to create
and help the Cubans create a solid economy in
the face of an economic boycott by the United
States, in the face of constant threats from
the United States, in fact a couple of
invasions that didn't work because the Cuban
people were too well armed and well educated.
The Venceremos Brigade is an idea which is an
attempt to show the people of the world that
all Americans aren't solid in their nature of
Cuba, and that all Americans arent' solid in
their support of the economic boycott of Cuba,
and so we are going to go and we are going to
attempt to, attmpt to help the Cubans in
their efforts.  DAVID JOHNS from the (SDS)
National Office is one person who's going on
that trip, other people from here who are
interested should talk to BILL THOMAS from
Portland, he's got applications.  It's a
simple matter, if you're under 17 you need
your parents' permission.  Yes.

After the WUO submerged into an underground status,
BILL AYERS and NAOMI JAFFE traveled to Canada for the
purpose of meeting with representatives of the Quebec
Liberation Front.  When the pair returned, AYERS had
$2,000 in his possession that he definitely did not have
when JAFFE and he went into Canada.

(page 188, 189 and 190 of FBI WEATHERMAN UNDERGROUND
SUMMARY DATED 8/20/76 PART # 2)

(and on page 198 of same document we have ...)

BERNARDINE RAE DOHRN,
Aka. Lorraine Anne Jellins
Sharon Louise naylor,
Karen Lois DeBelius, "Mona,"
Bernardine Rae Ohrnstein

BERNARDINE DOHRN is the ackowledged leader of the
WUO.  She is a white female who was born on January 12,
1942, in Chicago, Illinois.  She was arrested during the
WUO "Days of Rage" in Chicago during October, 1969, and
attended the WUO "Flint, Michigan War Council" in December,
1969.  DOHRN submerged into the WUO in early 1970 and has
remained therein.  Her name has appeared on a number of the
communiques sent by the WUO.

Foreign Travel and/or Contacts

DOHRN's foreign travels and contacts are discussed
in several other portions of this document including the ones
on the Venceremos Brigade.

Well, that seals it for me.

Well, that seals it for me. Obviously Obama is a terrorist...

No, he just pals around

No, he just pals around with them.

 

 

The difference between Ayers and McVieh?    Body count.

Dear God! That's even

Dear God! That's even WORSE!!!

If you say so. I just

If you say so.

I just think it show poor judgement.  Bill Ayers, if he and his "comrades" weren't so "unlucky" or incompetant, would have killed both a 9 year year old boy (bombing home of NY Judge) and a 3 year old girl (bombing the Pentagon).

I wouldn't want to be associate with Ayers unless it involved carting him off to Prison.

 

Governor Palin - She is the Real Deal !

You need to watch the

You need to watch the google video I linked in this thread and see the destruction at the brownstone where the bomb went off as they were building it to blow up the dance at Ft Dix.

It could have been a lot worse.

What about G.Gordon Liddy?

What about G.Gordon Liddy?

He never tried to blow anybody up

He never tried to blow anybody up.

Of course, putting him in a government job shows poor judgement too.  This is a man who admits that (for him) "the ends justify the means"

 

Governor Palin - She is the Real Deal !

They set multiple bombs at

They set multiple bombs at the house of the judge and the one that did not work was under the gas tank of the family car.

If that had worked the entire house would have been leveled.

Ayers illustrates the

Ayers illustrates the radicalism that Obama grew up with and surrounded himself with.  There can be no question that Ayers is just as radical today as he was in 1970, the only thing that has changed is his tactics, but he still believes the ends justifies the means.  So in order to have a socialist/communistic country Ayers has advocated two methods that I know, bombing government buildings and innocents alike and instead of teaching students how to succeed in a free market economy, "radicalize students politically" which I believe was the goal on the grant for the Annerberg Challenge of which Obama was in charge. (which by the way was a failure in one sense that it did nothing to help the students in Chicago, but apparently a success in that it possibly helped "radicalize" the young minds of the time.)  Since Ayers never repudiated his bombing past, it is obvious that the fundamental belief that ANY means necessary to achieve Obama's and Ayers common goal, the "sharing the wealth" is acceptable, both to Obama and Ayers.  Thus when Obama wins, look for politically incorrect speech to be considered hate speech under the Hate Crimes legislation and any critique of an Obama administration to be considered racism, and as such a Hate Crime. 

 And if Obama loses, expect riots like you have never seen for Ayers/Obama/Wright/Acorn etc will preach that it was because of racisms and the republicans stealing the election, no matter what the truth. 

 Scary times indeed. 

bal's being a weenie.... again...

What the $#@% is your problem?

If he indeed "just paled" around with a terrorist, which is looking more evident with each bit of investigating the MSM *won't* do, that...... ABSOLUTELY SUCKS.

This guy's clear associations with scummy people rightfully DISGUSTS us.

Well, most of us, bal. Really, what's your problem?

 

NOW PLAYING:
Governor Palin Get Your Gun

 

I have no problem. I simply

I have no problem. I simply think this "ASSOCIATION" is no cause for all the alarm you're spending on it.  

Well if it didn't then I

Well if it didn't then I was going to recommend you watch a 93 minute video of the history of their group on google video to show the death and destruction they caused during their reign of terror

Video Link

 

Obama and Ayres

What is so sad is that conservatives still have to try to dispel this guy (pick your guy here- both are scumbags coveted by the media). My thoughts are posted here if anyone is interested.

While bloggers are hard at

While bloggers are hard at work unearthing background information about our political candidates, members of the MSM, with their eyes glazed over, are behaving like a lost generation of cultists. What do they DO all day…. besides reproduce Obama talking points for their newspapers or echo Obama campaign talking points for on-air programs?

Apologies to any MSM exceptions to the above, but the fourth estate is really letting down the country, big-time.

I wrote this comment on the Rich Noyes blog about election year

economic reporting:

I think I am starting

October 19, 2008 - 11:22 ET by ahusser

to see conspiracies everywhere. The Democratic complicity in this financial "crisis" has not been investigated and in fact glossed over and maybe covered up and the usual knee jerk assertions of failed Administration policy and vitriol have come into play. This financial "perfect storm" has hurt the McCain candidacy very badly along with the vile trashing of his running mate Sarah Palin. Although September and October are historically the time for market "crashes" I am wondering if there are other powerful financial forces behind this so called "crisis" and market volatility who would welcome Obama as President, make some money, hurt the Republican candidate and advance the socialist cause all in one fell swoop. I would point the finger at such as George Soros and maybe some middle eastern and Venezuelan dictators. It only takes a few pebbles to start a landslide and a loud noise to start an avalanche. Soros is especially renowned for his short selling when he single-handedly took down the British Pound. Many questions about Obama's associations and financial backing have not been satisfactorally answered (I seriously doubt they ever will be) with the open complicity of the press who refuse to investigate any of the questionable topics that show Obama in a bad light seriously except to pooh pooh them. Wright, Ayers, Dohrn, and Rezko come immediately to mind. May God help the Republic.  I added later to a response to my comment that the coincidences about this crisis were too timely. How to explain the sudden easing of gas prices. Too many coincidences and the timing of the crisis has seemingly put McCain/Palin as losers in this election. Also it was announced today that Obama raised a very large sum I believe it was 189 million in September for his campaign. That is a huge, huge amount for just one month. Is anybody asking where this money is coming from. I can't see it coming from the dem constituency of 40 million voters.  

ahusser, I’ve thought

ahusser, I’ve thought about what you say, and I don’t want to believe it… but what concerns me the most is the staggering amount of money from ‘small donors’.  And who’s examining the source of the money… bloggers.  The MSM types are crowing, “Gee, isn’t it swell that our citizens are sending all this money to Barack.”  Unbelievable.   

The 700 billion dollar crisis drives me crazy too, but I don’t understand it well enough to venture an intelligent opinion…. other than I know we’ve been screwed.  

Some years from now, there is no doubt in my mind that scholars will be marveling at the sheer laziness and lack of discipline shown by the media during the first decade of the 21st Century.

If obama wins the

If obama wins the election:

When Louis Farrakhan,  Rev. Wright and Terrorist Bill Ayers/Bernadine Dorhn attend White House State Dinners, how many secret service agents will be on watch?

 

excuse me a few minutes, i'm gonna puke.

 

Fruit of Protection

Wait. Maybe Hussein can give the Secret Service a rest and use Farrakhan's Fruit of Islam a turn at protecting the White House. Isn't that what Calypso Louis calls his security detail. Doesn't Bill Ayres wax poetically about waving to the "Fruit" when he strolls around his and Hussein's neighborhood? They give him a "knowing" nod.

About that orange box...

The building was clearly small enough that the two MUST have encountered each other with regularity, that's pretty clear, so what's with the orange box?  You tarnish a good story by placing an arbitrary box "where 115 S Sangamon might have been", and using it to launch a baseless analysis of its size.  Why not just put a box around the entire empty area?  What's up with just making up a box?  Why give critics something to latch onto if this ever picks up steam?  There is no evidence that the third floor was "likely smaller than that", nor is that relevant.

 

 

 

Hannity NOW!

He's doing one helluva expose on Ob and Ayers, Rezko and Frank the commie from his youth.  Good stuff

Barak 0bama - Afraction American

Hey TA... Evening...I am

Hey TA...

Evening...I am going to have to catch that later...

thanks for the reminder though...it is important, plus anybody that misses this, can watch it by going to Fox most times...there is usually a link there for the whole thing...

If I were alone I would be watching it too TA...but I'm not....football and such...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

bt...You have to read

bt...You have to read this...Colin Powell Defending Muslims… 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

Good evebing CT, BT

Goes right along with this. The Organizationof the Islamic Conference [OIC]. FIFTY SEVEN Islamic states "combining their efforts to speak with one voice to safeguard the interests and secure the progress and well being of their people and of all muslims in the world". Indonesia, Hussein Obama's home,  is one of them. Farakhan called Obama the "messiah" but this was not a reference to Jesus Christ. Hussein Obama is the messiah in the koran that comes to subjugate the entire world to the nation of Islam. 

Who could be pro-muslim?

How could Colin Powell defend a muslim as a fellow human being?  Viewing all muslims as dangerous and radical is as smart as basing Christians on Jonestown.  There are crazy fanatics in any religion because people become so blinded in their beliefs.  I think anyone that saw what Powell said about the muslim soldier dying in service to his country would be inhuman to not acknowledge the sacrifice.  Thankfully, America is more diverse than a country of christians.  And now we have the first African American president, we should be celebrating our diversity and coming together instead of living in fear of other people's beliefs.

Devil's Advocate, again

.... In 1998, the address for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, where
Obama presumably worked, was 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois
60607.
 

Is there any evidence that this is actually true?  Or is this entire thing a non-sequitur?