Yet Another Obama Flip-Flop Flagged, This Time on Iraq

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At The Corner over at National Review Online (HT Instapundit via Weapons of Mass Discussion), Pete Hegseth calls it a "zigzag."

Given how fundamental Barack Obama's former position was to his credibility as a candidate during the Democratic primaries, I'd say it's yet another a full-fledged, full-throated flip-flop, accompanied by a fundamentally flawed reading of the Bush Administration's current policy -- both of which we can be confident Old Media will try to ignore.

Hegseth explains (link to transcript added by me; other links are in original; bolds are mine):

Recent reports and rumors have indicated that Senator Obama plans to aggressively move to the middle on Iraq in the coming months. This is a good political move for Obama, if only because he’s finally starting to recognize reality. However, it's no surprise that he will continue to try and have it both ways: moderating his withdrawal language without giving any credit to surge/Petraeus advocates.

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..... Standing alongside Hillary (Friday in Unity, NH), Obama said:

"We can follow a policy that doesn’t change whether violence is up or violence is down, whether the Iraqi government takes responsibility or not; or we can decide that it’s time to begin a responsible, gradual withdrawal from Iraq."

..... Just months ago, Obama clamored for an “immediate” withdrawal, regardless of the situation on the ground; today, his withdrawal would be “gradual.” Maybe he was channeling Hillary Clinton, or maybe he finally realizes that very few people—except the MoveOn crowd—want an immediate withdrawal. His website, I should note, still touts an “immediate” withdrawal.

Despite this move, Obama insists that America’s policy in Iraq “doesn’t change whether violence is up or violence is down.” This is verifiably false. ..... What was the new counter-insurgency strategy, Mr. Senator?

..... True to form, Obama is trying to have it both ways—attempting to use moderate rhetoric to mask an irresponsible Iraq policy, all the while unwilling to recognize the incredible progress on the ground. His website says the surge has only reduced violence to mid-2006 levels. Again, verifiably false. Today, we are at the lowest violence levels in Iraq in four years.

Here's the "mid-2006" reference Hegseth cited, from Obama's web site (also saved at host for future reference, for fair use and discussion purposes):

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In fact, Obama's web site not only is not in sync with what the candidate said on Friday it's not even in sync with itself, even within that very same web page:

ObamaConflictingIraqWDs0608

Much as he might think that he's already got the election in the bag, even arrogantly having his own "presidential seal" designed in advance of the election, a President Obama would not take office until January 20, 2009. Sixteen months from that point in time would be May 2010, not "the end of next year."

As to Hegseth's first-paragraph claim that all of this flipping, flopping, and flailing by Obama is "a good political move": Baloney. It is instead a cravenly cynical strategy that only has a chance of working as long as Old Media stays in the tank for him. Howard Kurtz at the Washington Post noted that the strategy largely worked in the Heller ruling (so far). But there have been some defectors, including PBS's Bonnie Erbe (at NewsBusters; at BizzyBlog); there will be more if (or is it as?) the flagrant flip-flops continue. And there's always New Media, which has shown little patience, even in some cases on the left, for much of Obama's recent nonsense.

One sign that Old Media is worried about Obama's frequent flip-flopping: Newsweek's Jonathan Darman came out yesterday with a howler about how "flip-flopping has a noble history in this country." Uh-huh.

Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.

—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters


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Oh, Come On

Are you saying that Barack Obama is a purebred politician and not the messianic agent of change that his fainting, Rapture-ized crowds believe him to be?

Who'd have guessed?

And here are more of his

And here are more of his positions:

O Chicago TV: "No, I've never said the troops should be withdrawn"

Also, from the Chicago Tribune: (same website as above)


In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said,

“On Iraq…There’s not much of a difference between my position and
George Bush’s position at this stage. The difference, in my mind, is
who’s in a position to execute.”

And this from his own website:

Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades
each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.

I don't know if I can handle all this "nuance" and "recalibrating."

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

Flip Flop Fatigue

If there is such a thing, I have it.

You can't have flip-flop fatigue.....

No, Tom there's NO flip-flopping ...we have nuance, clarifying, recalibrating, and now.....zig-zagging!!!

But he's NOT flip-flopping!!

Isn't it fun to watch the MSM tie themselves into knots to avoid saying what they know to be true???

Update: OOPS! I missed "rewording."

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

mb.,I like that one.I'm not

mb.,I like that one.I'm not flip- flopping,I'm zig-zagging.Ha!

Slept in late today.Feels good.Good morning folks.

Like the liberal

Like the liberal interpretation of the Constitution, Obama has a "living, breathing" policy that must evolve to meet the complex demands of a target audience. His is the Darwanism theory of politics, where his beliefs will undergo billions of mutations as they adapt to their environment.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

His campaign

His campaign could just call it "new centrist change mentality" or "changeminded" for short.

Anti-fatigue flip-flop mat

Tom: You may want to consider one of these. ;)

P.S. Can you say:  "flip flop factories in the Phillipines" 3 times, real fast.?

Funny ....

That could go a long eff-ing way forward for fractionalizing flip flop fatigue's physical eff-ects.

It ain't cheap being green

$239 for a push mower? I can buy a Toro with all the bells and whistles for that price!

Try these 3 times fast:

toy boat;

unique New York. 

  MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe.

Whoa!

That Obama - He's got more moves than MC Hammer. :)

Hi QM

And have you noticed his moves are both complicated and nuanced?

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Comrade Obama

His word is no good, his signature is no good, his character is no good. Just another in the long line of Democrats who will do and say anything to get elected.

In the end, just another 'post turtle'.

Advisors, too

Not only is his word no good, and his character is awful -- he has surrounded himself with some of the most terrible advisors possible. Here's Wesley Clark on Face the Nation today: “Well, I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.” This was in reference to McCain, and Wesley was trying to demean McCain so that his knowledge and experience in world affairs could be discounted.

I wonder what Wesley has to say about John Kerry's wartime experience? Getting a bandaid on your finger doesn't qualify you for President. Or how about JFK? Getting his boat stuck sure didn't qualify him for President, did it? But I would bet the media is going to take one step in that direction -- they just let people like Wesley get away with anything, and Obama "the messiah" will try to benefit.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Isn't Wesley Clark the same

Isn't Wesley Clark the same jxckxss that tried to order a British General to attack Russian troops arriving at a Yugoslavian/Serbian airport?

And the voters are now "dumb and dumber"

Need I say more? but I will ...

Ever watch the lead sheep lead the rest of the flock over the clift? They are just that stupid.

" It is instead a cravenly

" It is instead a cravenly cynical strategy that only has a chance of working as long as Old Media stays in the tank for him."

And they will stay in the tank for him.

Of Course You Know...

That by taking multiple positions, as Obama has on so many things, in the future when he's confronted about a "nuanced" position he can point to having supported that position at some point in the past. And why not? He's likely supported half-a-dozen positions in public.By doing this he can appear to always have supported everything.

It's a cynical abuse of the public trust, but that should be absolutely no surprise to anyone.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

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Give him another month and

Give him another month and he will probably have done a 180 degree turn on every stance he held during the primaries. Instead of "change we can believe in" as a campaign slogan, he should change it to "I`m just another typical politician."

Or how about "Change I can

Or how about "Change I can profit by"?

 

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

Looks like he is aiming to

Looks like he is aiming to be the "Second Black President"....in more ways than one.

(That explanation is no longer operative. -George Stephanopoulos as Clinton's Communications Director)

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

And I quote:

May 18, 2008: "Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us."  

May 19, 2008: "So, I've made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave." 

So, the Obamessiah made it clear that the threat is not serious, it's grave.

  MSM - shaping all the perceptions you need to believe.

  I could swear that

 

I could swear that some fool on TV made that very saem argument.

that grave and serious do not have the same meaning.  and that Barack H-word Obama was not flip-flopping but make very good points.

 

If I'm wrong please let me know

 

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
 -Gerald Ford