Pretty Dern Selective
On Sunday, NewsBusters' Brent Baker noted how unhappy actress Laura Dern is with the 2000 presidential election ("Dern 'Devastated' by Florida 'Because There Were Uncounted Votes'"). Dern plays then-Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris in HBO's "Recount," which first aired on Sunday.
Dern's displeasure has an apparently limited focus.
A review of the CNN program transcript (the interview with "Reliable Sources" host Howard Kurtz, Dern, and "Recount" director Jay Roach begins about 80% of the way through) confirms Dern's selectivity. "Somehow," the "devastated" Dern and the other interview participants never got around to talking about other votes that Democratic operatives throughout the Sunshine State worked feverishly to disqualify.
The Military Ballots
That CNN interview did not deal with matters that Big Media, which put thousands of hours of time and lots of money into recounting ballots -- only to find that George W. Bush really did win Florida -- has not investigated:
- First, there may have been a preemptive attempt before the election to prevent members of the US military stationed overseas from voting, along with possible delays in getting completed ballots delivered properly.
- Then, after the election, there was an undeniably systematic attempt by Gore operatives in every Florida county to disqualify those whose ballots did arrive.
Botched Ballot Deliveries
Let's start with the logistical ballot snafus, as recorded at the time by Jamie Dettmer of Insight Magazine (bolds are mine):
AWOL Military Ballots Cause Controversy
In Florida, the Democrats are bewailing spoiled ballots and demanding that such votes should count. But in farflung regions of the world, as well as on the high seas, the lament of military personnel is about missing ballots -- ballots completed and others that were never received although they were requested.
After at first pooh-poohing a WorldNetDaily (WND) report that hundreds of overseas military ballots hadn't been delivered, the U.S. Navy did an about-face on Nov. 14 and confirmed that bundles of completed ballots had been left behind to languish on three ships in the Persian Gulf.
On November 4, 2000, three days before the election, WND previewed the troubles that were to come by reporting that service members requesting ballots weren't getting them, and that some would, as a result, not get to vote at all:
Members of the military who are currently stationed overseas have complained that the Pentagon has not yet sent out absentee ballots this year, meaning they will not get to vote for a new commander in chief on Tuesday.
Specifically, members of U.S. Navy aboard ships supporting the USS Cole -- the destroyer recently attacked by terrorists while it was undergoing refueling in the port of Aden, Yemen -- have either not received ballots or won't get them in time because of current deployment circumstances, Pentagon officials said yesterday.
..... A Maine resident -- who asked not to be identified -- said her Navy daughter who is stationed in Tokyo has received her absentee ballot for every election except this one.
"No one at the base will be voting because all the absentee ballots are missing," she told WorldNetDaily.
Navy officials were also contacted but did not return phone calls.
Critics have suggested that the Clinton administration may have purposely delayed sending absentee ballots to military personnel overseas because most, according to recent surveys, will vote Republican. The White House has denied those charges.
Three days after the election, WND noted that then Congressman Joe Scarborough had requested an investigation into why so many had not received absentee ballots. I do not believe that any such investigation ever took place. On November 14, WND's Jon Dougherty traced a large portion of the problem to absentee ballots being mailed out fourth-class (bulk) instead of first-class.
Though it could be the case that the Clinton administration dallied in addressing a problem it might have become aware of, problems with getting ballots to military members overseas are not unprecedented. Jeff Babbin, in a 2004 National Review column, noted that "About 200,000 military personnel who tried to vote in 1988 didn't because they didn't get their absentee ballots at all, or got them too late to send them back in." That said, 12 years of improvements in delivery technology should have made such a snafu less likely.
"Count All the Votes" -- But Kick Out the Soldiers'
Whether or not the ballot delivery problems were planned or accidental, what is not in dispute is that Democrats on the ground in all of Florida's counties were under post-election instructions to challenge any military ballot they could. These orders were embodied in the infamous Mark Herron memo. At the time, Matt Drudge described it at his Drudge Report as a "5-Page Memo on How to Steal an Election." One element of the strategy, which involved questioning origin and destination postmarks, was particularly hypocritical, given the party's current and past hostility to voter-ID laws, one of which was deemed constitutional last month.
The Herron Memo exposed Team Gore's obviously concerted effort at disqualifying real, clear-intent votes, especially from those risking their lives and safety for their country, and was a major factor in turning the public-relations tide against Gore. It was especially offensive to many because at the same time, Gore operatives were insisting that targeted Democratic-heavy county boards of elections divine the supposed intent of voters who submitted clearly inconclusive ballots.
In July 2001, the New York Times attempted to pin the blame for the military ballot-related backlash that had developed squarely on Vice Presidential candidate Joe Lieberman. The Times claimed that on November 19, 2000, when Lieberman "said that election officials should give the 'benefit of the doubt' to military voters," he was somehow off-message, or free-lancing.
That rendition does not stand up to scrutiny. Look at what Lieberman told NBC's "Meet the Press" that day:
The vice president and I would never authorize and would not tolerate a campaign that was aimed specifically at invalidating ballots from members of our armed services, and I've been assured that there were more absentee ballots from non-military voters that were ultimately disqualified.
Lieberman was clearly delivering a pre-planned statement. At best, it can be seen as an attempt to say "we're sticklers on ALL absentees, not just the military (who, it "just so happens," probably favor Bush by a 2-1 margin)." It wasn't Lieberman's fault that the statement came off as a "never mind," and lame at the same time. Also note that the Times's story makes no mention of the fact that the Connecticut senator invoked Gore in his statement.
"Dramatization," or More Lazy History?
At the end of the CNN interview referred to earlier, Director Roach seemed to launch a preemptive strike in an attempt to inoculate himself against those who he expects will criticize the historical accuracy of "Recount":
..... we watched a lot of docudramas when we started this film, and I remembered when I was studying "All the President's Men," how "Follow the money" became the catch phrase in a way for that movie. And it's true that just like a lot of things in our film, that line didn't actually happen. It wasn't spoken by Deep Throat at the time, and yet it stood for a complicated process of, you know, tracking the financial transactions. But the sort of pure essence of the line captured people's imaginations and is an example of how dramatization should work.
It wasn't 100 percent accurate, but it was very true to what went on. And I hope people will watch the film, our film, that way. We feel like we were trying to tell the story of this national nightmare and get all the big ideas right.
Rough translation: One lousy hatchet job justifies another.
I would suggest that if, as I believe is the case, "Recount" pays little heed to the military ballot-related matters described here, it's not a "dramatization," but rather yet another tired piece of history-ignoring propaganda -- which would make it consistent with what Big Media has been feeding us since the real Bush-Gore drama ended.
Cross-posted at BizzyBlog.com.
—Tom Blumer is president of a training and development company in Mason, Ohio, and is a contributing editor to NewsBusters




















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Yes, it would have been
May 27, 2008 - 09:56 ET by motherbeltYes, it would have been priceless for her to be asked: How did you feel later, when the media did their own recounts under several scenarios, and it turned out George Bush really did win?
I read something yesterday, can't remember who said it, but the gist of it was that if they had pushed for the full state recount instead of select counties, and used some standard or other for "voter intent" and rechecked all of the spoiled ballots (another new standard....counting spoiled ballots!!) etc, the result "likely would have been different."
That's right: if they had just had leeway to completely rewrite the election laws and create their own standards, they "likely" could have come up with a Gore win!
I remember
May 27, 2008 - 10:33 ET by JoelCTmb,
I remember about a month ago reading a story to that effect, that if Gore had decided to recount the entire state instead of just the heavily-Democrat counties, the Bush team would not have contested it, and there would have been no need for the two Supreme Courts (Florida and US) to battle it out. It is fascinating to ponder what might have happened if Gore hadn't been so selfish and so devious as to demand only those few counties be recounted. Wow. History itself would have been re-written. Possibly President Gore on 9/11. <shudder>
On the positive side, they wouldn't be able to say Bush "stole" the election, if he had come out on top. I can't believe Hillary repeated that chant just the other day, almost eight years later.
It's easy to believe
May 27, 2008 - 11:39 ET by ThisnThatIt's easy to believe Hillary repeated that chant. First, it's the Dim's policy to pretend that there is only one truth -- and that is what's said at the moment by any dim, wherever. Second, Hillary has no moral compass or standards. To her, the end always justifies the means.
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Can't believe
May 27, 2008 - 16:40 ET by JoelCTHeh heh, yes, I can't believe I said "I can't believe" regarding anything a Democrat politician said. In fact, I was just telling my uncle the other day, you know, the one who helped liberate Auschwitz...
Obama's uncles
May 27, 2008 - 19:11 ET by ThisnThatObama does have a problem with uncles, doesn't he? First it was his preacher, Jeremiah Wright, who Obama said was "like an uncle to him". Later on Wright was "like a crazy uncle". Now we find out that Jermiah Wright must have also liberated Auschwitz -- or was that another uncle? Who knows?
Obama just needs to simply yell "uncle" and admit defeat.
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JoelCt
May 27, 2008 - 16:57 ET by Jerry MackAll of the 2000 Florida votes have been counted by Judical Watch, NYT and others. Bush still wins.
Will they never admit loss?
May 27, 2008 - 09:59 ET by ThatDudeSeriously, how many times must you be proven something before you finally accept it? In every conceivable instance Gore lost. Yet, the claims are infinitely louder that Bush stole the election despite Gore's best efforts to completely subvert the democratic election process in order to do that which Bush is accused of. I fail to understand how these leftists still consider themselves Democrats despite their obvious distaste of how democracies work (i.e. their own primary's hypocrisy)
Terry McAwful...
May 27, 2008 - 10:15 ET by Prester John...was on with Chris Wallace on Sunday and repeated again that the Dems had an election "stolen" from them in 2000. He also said the HRC campaign would wait and see what Dean comes up with with regard to Michigan and Floride before deciding to take it to the convention floor or not.
What a weasel.
Animal identification
May 27, 2008 - 10:35 ET by NL207Animal identification lesson: A weasel is a useful predator which destroys many mice and rats. McAuliffe is one of the rats who hosed invetsors in the Global Crossing corporate scandal. He personally profited to the tune of $17.5 M from that debacle, reportedly for greasing the political skids that allowed Global Crossing to takeover the former Rochester Telephone Corp., a publicly regulated utility in a reverse merger.
Rats are vermin, not weasels.
I stand...
May 27, 2008 - 10:39 ET by Prester John...corrected.
"COUNT EVERY (democrat) VOTE"
May 27, 2008 - 10:32 ET by mattmThe Sleaze-o-crats probably knew the re-count would not change the results, but they also knew they could poison Bush's presidency. ...and they call Republicans evil?
This is how low-life scum operate. Yet they're all bent out of shape because Karl Rove might be helping the McCain campaign, as if that privilege is reserved for Democrats only...
The word hypocrite is infinitesimally inadequate to describe the Left.
hollywood
May 27, 2008 - 10:08 ET by opnpt0Liberals supports the troops but not their votes.
THANK YOU
May 27, 2008 - 10:33 ET by chiefpayneI have continuously mentioned to people who complain about the 2000 election that there were 5,000 military votes discounted because they didn't have a US postage stamp on the mailed ballots.
Of course it was irrelevant that they COULDN'T put postage stamps on the ballots because they were overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq where you cannot buy postage stamps. Military mail is free for soldiers overseas!!!
Of course that didn't mean squat to Gore who wanted to win reguardless...even if it meant those who fight for their country would not be able to help decide who was leading them!!
I would not give Al Gore all the defecation he could devour!
Dhimmi's
May 27, 2008 - 10:40 ET by ScrapironIn they're own mind all democrats live on the 13th floor.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
Thanks for the info
May 27, 2008 - 10:57 ET by americaneagleI knew about the Gore team getting overseas absentee ballots from the military excluded, but I never knew about the fact that the Clinton Pentagon was lax in getting absentee ballots out to the military. That is a real disgrace, to see the Pentagon engaging in this type of disenfranchisement of the military just to serve their current political masters. I suppose that it is true that the real warriors do not inhabit the Pentagon, just the uniformed politicians.
Final outcome on military ballots
May 27, 2008 - 11:40 ET by Jonah Johansen"I have continuously mentioned to people who complain about the 2000
election that there were 5,000 military votes discounted because they
didn't have a US postage stamp on the mailed ballots."
I know that Republicans went to court to get these ballots counted, and Joe Lieberman said on National TV they should be counted, and in some cases local election boards agreed to include more military ballots but I have never heard or seen an accurate account of what the final disposition was, in the end how many were actually counted and how many were disqualified.
I also know there was an issue of Federal Law(passed as part of voting rights act to prevent just this kind of thing) trumping State law .
Please site your source in any answer.
Whattsa matta U? No
May 27, 2008 - 11:56 ET by NL207Whattsa matta U? No Google? No keyboard?
"excluded absentee ballots Florida 2000"
Results 1 - 10 of about 40,200 for excluded absentee ballots Florida 2000. (0.42 seconds)
There's 40,000 to choose from.
I like this one, the third hit in the list:
"The most common reason cited for challenging and rejecting ballots was the absence of postmarks, or illegible postmarks, which Florida law requires on all overseas ballots. The postmarks were most often missing on military ballots, because the Army and Navy postal services frequently neglect to use them."
G.W.Bush stole what?
May 27, 2008 - 11:48 ET by larry on LIlarry on LI
when confronted with the accusation that Bush stole the election , I find the most satisfying and disarming responce is; well that is certainly comforting to know that.
Final outcome
May 27, 2008 - 12:01 ET by chiefpayneJonah,
"I also know there was an issue of Federal Law(passed as part of voting rights act to prevent just this kind of thing) trumping State law . Please site your source in any answer. "
Quite correct...the 5,000 was the number originally given by the news services...however that number was the number Bush won against Gore in a specific Florida county. I also saw where numerous people wanted the military vote to count...what I never saw was any place stating they WERE counted.
At any rate. the I find it extremely repugnant that someone would refuse the vote to the very people protecting it.
BTW, I have discovered that Bob Geiger was in the Navy, but for the life of me cannot discover WHEN he was in the Navy. Was Mr. Geiger in during a wartime situation? Anyone know where I can see his military record?
Florida Panhandle votes
May 27, 2008 - 12:51 ET by cjkI seem to remember that the leftist media also did it's best to
lower turnout in the solidly republican Panhandle area (some of which
is in the central time zone) by calling the race earlier than it should
of been. Obviously the media had absolutely no business in calling
anything in what proved to be such a close race. Or would it have been
so close if they had acted responsibly and kept their mouths
shut? They never talk about this aspect of media meddling, or am
I remembering wrong? ICABOD
They don't talk about it cjk - but they have changed
May 27, 2008 - 12:59 ET by Dee Bunktheir policy because of it. That is the one good thing that came from the whole debacle. The media now won't report election numbers until the polls have closed.
You are right though, they never talk about (even back then) how their process used to have an impact on the outcome. They still do almost as much with their exit poll data and pre election data, so that's probably why they didn't mind making that change much.
There are quite a few things....
May 27, 2008 - 13:15 ET by Tom Blumer.... other than the military ballots that Old Media conveniently ignores.
The early call in the panhandle is one.
Two others are the incorrect "condo commando" coaching on how to fill out butterfly ballots and the deliberate "did you know you may have voted for the wrong guy?" push polling that took place in Palm Beach to create the butterfly ballot "crisis."
They insist that the Supremes "decided" the election when all they did is prevent 60-plus repeats of the travesties that were occurring in some of the Dem counties Team Gore had cherry-picked.
They ignore the fact that their normal spokesmen in the media couldn't even figure out how to say "Gore would have won" after their exhaustive recount.
They don't mention the fact that Team Gore had filed or intended to file lawsuits in virtually every county before the Supremes stopped the madness.
Good points Tom and the biggest thing they ignore
May 27, 2008 - 13:30 ET by Dee BunkIs how they were changing the rules after they saw how they impacted their votes.
GWB wins the first official count, then he wins the machine recount, then he wins the hand recount and that wasn't enough winning for them. They had to change the rules on how the votes were counted and where they would be counted multiple times after that.
It's amazing that any democrats could stand behind what their despicable leaders did and put this country through.
fake but accurate
May 27, 2008 - 16:15 ET by wizardjr"It wasn't 100 percent accurate, but it was very true to what went on." ---
"Fake but accurate" seems to be a liberal mantra now. They just keep saying it over and over in response to questioning about their obviously bent versions of history or fact.