NPR Highlights Authors Who Say GOP Is Extreme and Rejects 'Evidence and Science'
On Sunday, the Washington Post’s Outlook section was dominated by an article with a headline imposed over an elephant’s rear end: “Admit it. The Republicans are worse. Don’t blame both sides for gridlock. Thomas E. Mann and Norman J. Ornstein say it’s the GOP’s fault.”
Within about 24 hours, there were Mann and Ornstein, being interviewed on National Public Radio’s Morning Edition. Anchor Steve Inskeep asked Mann if he would read from their hatchet job on the Republicans:
MANN: (Reading) However awkward it may be for the traditional press and nonpartisan analysts to acknowledge one of the two major parties, the Republican Party, has become a resurgent outlier, ideologically extreme, contemptuous of the inherited social and economic policy regime, scornful of compromise, un-persuaded by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science, and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
INSKEEP: That's pretty brutal, gentlemen.
MANN: We're not exactly neutral or balanced, are we? That's perhaps the central message of our book, that as norms operate and your business, in our business -- press, nonpartisan groups of all sorts, we have to be even-handed. We have to be fair-minded. That does a great disservice to the reality, and it feeds a public belief that they're all corrupt, they're all ineffective, the system is what's at work. It disarms the electorate in a democracy when you really need an ideological outlier to be reined in by an active, informed public.
They have a book called "It's Even Worse Than It Looks." There was another book with this thesis: it was called “Right Is Wrong,” and was authored by Arianna Huffington. Like these men, she insisted the media needed to shelve any pose of fair-minded neutrality and savage the Republicans for being anti-facts and anti-science.
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How well does this fit the NPR narrative, attacking the new infusion of conservatism in the Republican House? Conservatives want to defund NPR? This is how NPR fights back, with two liberal establishmentarians bashing them as the Huns.
It’s awfully funny, though, for NPR to insist that it’s wrong to be “dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition” as they trash Tea Party conservatives and fire employees who show up on The O’Reilly Factor.
Inskeep also asked Ornstein about how the American Enterprise Institute is seen as a conservative think tank – but not when you factor in liberals like Ornstein:
INSKEEP: Norm Ornstein, you're with the American Enterprise Institute, which if it's known as anything, it's known as more of a conservative or Republican-leaning think-tank. Are your colleagues all comfortable with you signing onto that statement, that the Republican Party is most at fault here?
ORNSTEIN: I think some of my colleagues are going to be quite uncomfortable with that. We didn't come to this conclusion lightly. And in previous works that we've done, we hit both parties, and we've hit both of them hard in instances where either, for example, when the Democrats were in the majority for 40 consecutive years, leading up to 1994, they became arrogant, condescending, complacent, and there was a significant amount of corruption that comes with accumulated power.
But for Republicans currently inside Congress, you have a new set of litmus tests and a new outlook that leads them in directions where you can't say that there is such a thing as climate change. You take positions on things like immigration that are simply off the rails. And if you compromise, you are basically defiling what the party stands for.
And when you have Mitch McConnell saying, after the first two years of the Obama administration, in effect, well, of course we wouldn't cooperate with him because if our fingerprints were on any of those policies, and they were popular, he'd get credit for them. There's not a hint in that of, well, the first thing we got to do is solve the problems facing the country. There's a contrast here, and Democrats bashed Bush plenty, used rhetoric at times, referring to him as a war criminal. They're not saints, here. But we're really dealing with a different phenomenon now with the Republicans.
If you can find Norman Ornstein trashing the Democrats in 1994 for arrogance and condescension, you might write NPR. You won’t find it on their waves. On July 2 of that year, Ornstein told NPR “I think over the long run Democrats lose if nothing happens [on Hillarycare], but in the immediate term, which means November, every incumbent, Democrat or Republican, has to fear what happens if the basic message back home is gridlock.” NPR's Inskeep tossed in a bit of the contrary point of view:
INSKEEP: There are Republicans who will argue that this is a moment like that, that this is a moment where the country is in danger of going in a radically different direction and an irrevocable direction, and that they must fight back in any way that they can.
MANN: But it flies in the face of a reality that the Democrats have become, in some respects, the party of the status quo, while it's the Republicans who are the true insurgents who want the radical change, returning to a pre-New Deal era of - more like the Gilded Age and pretending the last 100 years of history didn't happen.
INSKEEP: You're arguing against the politics of extremes. What about the argument that has been made by many on the right -- some also on the left -- that the solutions are not necessarily in the middle? You may have to go to the edges to find the solutions to our problems.
ORNSTEIN: I think that's a reasonable argument. I don't believe in a golden mean. I don't believe you find policy, wisdom between two polar points. I don't dismiss that possibility, but I look at the platform that's so ideologically based, that's so dismissive of facts, of evidence of science, and it's frankly hard to take seriously.
MANN: We're not against conservatives. [!] Some of our heroes are very, very strong conservatives, here. We're not against strong liberals, either. But what we found is, whether it's a Reagan presidency that did move the country like an ocean liner a few degrees to the right - Reagan understood, however, that you looked at facts and reality, and when you saw that your policies of trying to cut spending significantly enough that you could radically reduce government working and that we were leading to larger deficits, he understood that you needed to find some compromises. Let's get some revenues, but let's do it in the best possible way.
But Inskeep did not wonder how on Earth it can be argued that the present fiscal course of the Obama team is "conventional" or non-ideological. How is the present system in Washington "working" with trillion-dollar deficits as far as the eye can see? That apparently doesn't matter -- as long as the government keeps shovelng the subsidies to public radio. They're always comfortable with the Statist Quo.
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Mann said:
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 8:44am.
Reagan understood, however, that you looked at facts and reality, and when you saw that your policies of trying to cut spending significantly enough that you could radically reduce government working and that we were leading to larger deficits, he understood that you needed to find some compromises.
Reagan DID compromise for spending cuts, which Tip O'Neill failed to deliver upon. Revenues increased with Reagan's tax rate reductions but the Dems couldn't wait to spend it.
Must-read
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 8:47am.
Karl at Hot Air has a great fisking of the whole Mann/Ornstein article.
Let's Just Say It: Democrats Are the Problem
Read the whole thing. It's excellent.
Really?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 8:53am.
This coming from the side that relies on manipulated data and contrived "evidence" with nothing to support it, and yet they are the ones that come up with the solutions that actually cause more problems than they solve.
In fact, I saw this yesterday and I gotta say, it's a bit of a switch and wish we didn't have to do this to find this out, but there it is, and it should be proof positive that we need to stop this and any other ill-conceived notions of "saving the planet."
Wind Farms Are Warming The Earth
At least this has real solid evidence to back this up instead of some baseless useless theory that fit the local facts for about a minute.
So yeah, the GOP does reject YOUR evidence and YOUR "science." As a conservative who appreciates science, I know I do too.
When are we going to stop these liberals from "saving the planet?" How much more of this nonsense before it gets really bad?
-Jon
jon
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 9:15am.
That windmill story had me howling all day! You couldn't make this stuff up.
No kidding
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 12:41pm.
Reminds me of how they touted MTBE before they found out that was really bad.
Like I said, I really wish liberals would stop trying to save the world, might be a safer cleaner place if they did stop.
-Jon
Saving the planet!
Submitted by CO2Maker on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 12:52pm.
Carlin beat you to it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yRi7gYY1FI
Well....
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 1:49pm.
I couldn't remember which comedian it was that said it. That was before he started getting a little weird in the end, just one of his more saner times.
I don't claim anything about what he said about people trying to save the planet other than just using common sense. Either way, he's right.
-Jon
This book is a good reminder
Submitted by celator on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 9:03am.
This book is a good reminder that the Nov '12 election isn't just about gifting Obama with a one way ticket out of the White House. It's also about rooting out the layers of lefty, Marxist, socialist, freedom eating vermin in the MSM and NGOs which infect the body politic of the United States of America.
Obama is just the Avatar of these carnivorous scoundrels. They all need to slither back under the slippery rocks from which they hatched.
But again, OUR govt has failed us-this time in the science arena
Submitted by merly1 on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 9:06am.
Look it up--->
from the National Science Academy to the Institute of Medicine, the big failing is that membership
is predicated upon one thing and one thing only:
only existing members can nominate new members.
Wonder how we get a "group think" mentality?
You get a club like Augusta, and it's huge media news, but basically our Science Academies
are nothing more than elite clubs of similar thinking (ie anti-science to its core), and has anybody ever, ever, seen a story on the membership rules of our government "science" entities?
Hmmm, why doesnt the State Dept or Pentagon have similar membership rules? ;o)
Can you imagine a Pentagon where only existing members could nominate new members?
Slim Pickens ridin' a bomb would have long ago been true..........................
The Washington Poop dumps
Submitted by mattm on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 9:38am.
The Washington Poop dumps again.
Yah, Republicans don't get science, or respect it. Riiiight.
Submitted by CO2Maker on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 11:50am.
The complaint is doubt about evolution, utter skepticism about global warming science (with good reasons), and, of course, anything to do with reproductive medicine (read, embryonic stem cell research and the A-word).
I don't think Republicans are skeptical of or walk away from hard science, e.g., nuclear physics, ballistics, chemistry, aerodynamics, electrical engineering, stuff like that. It's that mushy social science survey-as-empiricism, feelings-as-facts stuff that they have difficulty accepting.
So, the liberal meme-ry hole now contains:
War on Women
Anti-science neanderthals (or troglodytes, take your pick)
One-percenters
... which are, in fact, all a part of Racism!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Tue, 05/01/2012 - 12:22pm.
NPR--your tax dollars at work.