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NPR 'Listener Advocate' Slams Listeners Offended by Pope Jokes; They're Like Muslim Extremists??

By Tim Graham | March 25, 2012 | 08:13

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Possibly in response to NewsBusters readers who passed on our item on the string of Pope Benedict-mocking jokes on NPR's game show "Wait! Wait! Don't Tell Me!" NPR ombudsman Edward Schumacher-Matos tells NewsBusters and other critics: lighten up, or be compared to radical Muslims. Isn't the ombudsman supposed to advocate for the listeners, not denounce them?

"If we keep jokes about the pope off-limits, we create a silencing effect that is far more damaging than the jokes themselves. We threaten to become like the intolerant extremists now most notoriously bedeviling the Muslim world, though other religions suffer from strains of fanaticism as well." Say what?

Schumacher-Matos then compares the Holy Father to an American president, failing to consider that perhaps a better comparison would be mocking a spiritual leader like the Dalai Lama or Billy Graham:

This is not to say that anyone offended by a pope joke is extremist or intolerant. Not at all. But I would like to believe that if the Vatican held a roast of the pope the way that the American president is roasted each year by the press, the pope himself would laugh at being called a "gay icon." I would like to think that even a gathering of priests might roast the pope that way. Having known many priests, I feel sure that some would do so in private.

This is galling, because he avoids entirely the other half of my critique, that I couldn't find an Obama joke in the last four weeks of the program -- after the show had a history of Bush-Cheney-bashing. My point was obviously, this NPR show has a reverence for Obama and irreverence for the pope. It demonstrates a liberal bias, regardless of the question of showing respect for your listeners' religious beliefs. I was NOT saying that Pope Benedict jokes should be "off limits." (Straw Man Alert!) I was implying that the comedy hacks at NPR think the Obama jokes are off limits.

The ombudsman avoids making any reference to NewsBusters and made no attempt to contact me -- unlike the last ombudsman, Alicia Shepard, who would call me on a relevant item like this. But at least we get the official rebuttal from the game-show hacks:

Wait Wait's executive producer Michael Danforth put the "icon" joke in the context of the whole comic routine and the show in general:

We make our living poking fun at the news. It's a risky business of finding the edges in stories. Occasionally we step over the line. Never is it our intention to offend. When we read about the Pope having his own cologne, it reminded us of other well know people with signature scents. We also joked about the Pope as a TV pitchman selling other things like jeans (called Benedicts) or cereal (Frosted Mini Popes). The fun here came from imagining a well-known person in a different context.

I certainly believe that there was no ill intention, and hope that even listeners who were offended accept that. Other religions have been spoofed on NPR as well.

This should create an Ombudsman's Challenge: I challenge Schumacher-Matos to locate when "Wait! Wait! Don't Tell Me!" mocked any Muslim in the same fashion that they mocked the Catholics' spiritual leader. Unless he can locate one, he shouldn't insist that these "news" comedians are equal-opportunity religion-mockers.

The typical subject of Muslims and comedy is a series of stories NPR has done honoring Muslim comedians and shows like "Little Mosque on the Prairie."

Postscript:

Schumacher-Matos diverted the entire issue into his whole liberal declaration -- complete with charts -- that opposition to homosexuality is vanishing and it should:

I believe that behind this whole discussion lies the question of how we feel with regards to homosexuality. I am Catholic and personally would not be offended if the pope were called gay, much less a gay icon. I think that being gay is perfectly normal. I also believe that sooner or later the news media and all of society will get over the last remaining objections to homosexuality—and be ashamed they ever had them.

But I understand that a shrinking minority of Americans hold very deep-seated religious views against homosexuality. Repeated polls show that this is a minority view. Relevantly, it is held by less than a third of American Catholics. Opposition to homosexuality is almost insignificant in the mostly Catholic nations of Europe. Indeed, the gay rights movement is increasingly becoming a Christian one, though there is strong opposition among white Evangelical Christians in the U.S.

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"...if the Vatican held a roast.."?

Submitted by almostacowboy on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 8:37am.

That's offensive even to a Baptist (me).
And, there is nothing "normal" about homosexuality.
Defund National Pinko Radio now!

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Considering that NPR and its affiliate stations . . .

Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:05pm.

. . . receive US tax dollars, why are they in the business of making jokes about ANY religious or political figures?

Beyond the obvious bias issue, there's the public purpose of NPR to educate and entertain with programming allegedly not readly available to listeners. Jokes about the Pope and politicians are on network TV daily.

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one difference

Submitted by spepper on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 8:47am.

One difference between a Catholic and an "intolerant Muslim extremist" is that when the Catholic faith is smeared in either "joke" or other form, the Catholics are NOT known for organizing a violent RAMPAGE that results in the deaths of innocent bystanders. So the attempt by the "national propaganda radio" person to lump Catholics in with that violently radical religion is at best, inappropriate.

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Schumacher-Matos

Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 8:53am.

I could easily demonstrate to him how the Moooslem reaction to that would play out, but being non-Mooooslem I don't think I would get out of the murder charges for performing an act of "honor."

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)
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In attempting to hide its bias,

Submitted by HockeyKid on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 9:00am.

NPR reveals it all the more clearly.

Saying "the gay rights movement is increasingly becoming a Christian one" is akin to saying, "the vegan movement is increasingly becoming a carnivorous one". NPR is very biblical in one respect, though--they definitely say whatever tickles their audience's ears.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

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which is the reason

Submitted by spepper on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 9:56am.

Completely insane and twisted notions like "the gay rights movement is increasingly becoming a Christian one" is one reason I prefer not to listen to their propaganda. Now if they'd said something more like "they gay rights movement is attempting to mimic those such as in the Christian faith", then they would at least sound more objective. But no, since they are unto themselves an advocacy organization, they don't treat various subjects with the least bit of objectivity.

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It is one step towards the

Submitted by MrSnuggles on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:27am.

It is one step towards the coming assault on our churches by the homos. There is no doubt in my mind they will come into our churches and demand "equality".

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The last paragraph

Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 9:20am.

Implies that we should accept gays because Europe does. I doubt many of us here would choose to model ourselves in Europe in any way, shape, or form. And once the Muslims complete their infiltration of Europe, they simple won't have any gays.

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The Europeans

Submitted by spepper on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:02am.

The Europeans are definitely "reaping" what they have "sowed". Opening themselves to "alternate lifestyles" with their government's blessing, then insanely opening themselves to MUSLIM OCCUPATION, is like committing "mass suicide" by their "multicultural integration" attitude-- Muslims arrive there SPECIFICALLY to eradicate those they consider "infestations of Allah's world", and the European government's failure to deal with that reality will be their ultimate undoing.

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Most European countries don't

Submitted by redfish on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:25am.

Most European countries don't have same-sex marriage either. And Spain only does despite opposition to the public because war politics allowed a socialist party to take over.

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obama jokes

Submitted by MidAmerica on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 9:29am.

Here's a good supply of obama jokes that NPR must have missed...

http://sites.google.com/site/barackobamajokes/

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Different context

Submitted by KC Beach on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 9:34am.

If the fun is imagining a well known person in a different context, maybe they should portray Obama as a leader. Now THAT would be funny.

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Nice one!

Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 9:47am.

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Different context

Submitted by NVRAT on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:39am.

Hey KC, I like this one. Obambo a leader. My sides are still hurting.

NVRAT
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When was the last time you

Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 9:53am.

When was the last time you heard a Moooslem joke on late night TV? Bill Maher tell one?

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➚ I found it, Tim

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:09am.

NPR mocked Muslims when they tried to cut a $5 million deal with James O'Keefe.

Oh wait!  That only proves NPR is predisposed to love Muslims over traditional American values.

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Where are the islamic

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:14am.

Where are the islamic cartoons?

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".
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➚ Why did Bill Moyers cross the road?

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:30am.

How the hell would he know?

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His about as senile as Jimma

Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:22am.

His about as senile as Jimma Kotter.

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I think the NPR guy is trying

Submitted by DEEBEE on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:49am.

I think the NPR guy is trying to say that Obama is like the pope, rather than that the Pope is like President Obama.
Get with the program you racist Obama hater. /sarc

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➚Christian is the new racism

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:52am.

Having already determined manageable metrics for ethnic minorities, white liberals turn their attention to isolating and belittling Christians.

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It's just political hate

Submitted by celator on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 10:56am.

It's just political hate speech and ugliness disguised as liberal comedy. Bill Maher, the face of the Obama re-election campaign, is the current trophy holder in that category.

"This is not your mother's Democratic Party"--Andrew Breitbart, CPAC, February 2012
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Heard It

Submitted by IrateNate on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:08am.

Two Muslims were molesting a pig when Muhammad walked up...stop me if you've heard this one.

Islamic humor - it's the bomb!

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"...that is far more damaging

Submitted by redfish on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:18am.

"...that is far more damaging than the jokes themselves."

So is he acknowledging the jokes are damaging or is he just a bad writer?

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Leftist Humor

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:28am.

A traveller wandering on an island inhabited entirely by cannibals comes upon a butcher shop. This shop specialised in human brains differentiated according to source. The sign in the shop read:

Artists' Brains $9/oz
Philosophers' Brains $12/oz
Scientists' Brains $15/oz
Republicans' Brains $19/oz
Democrats' Brains $2,000/oz

Upon reading the sign, the traveller noted, "My those Democrats' brains must be popular!" To which the butcher replied, "Are you kidding! Do you have any idea how many Democrats you have to kill to get a ounce of brains?!"

http://www.jokes.net/shortdemocratjokes3.htm

But, of course, some Leftist will come along and switch Republican for Democrat. That's just what they do.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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More Leftist Humor

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:33am.

They say that Christopher Columbus was the first Democrat. When he left to discover America, he didn't know where he was going. When he got there he didn't know where he was. And it was all done on a government grant.

http://www.jokes.net/shortdemocratjokes3.htm

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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CHRISTIANS GO BERSERK OVER SNL SKIT...

Submitted by bigdaddy on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:51am.

...SET FIRE TO MOSQUE FULL OF MOOSLUMS IN MINNESOTA...

Details at eleven...

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The big difference though is that

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:10pm.

you don't get your head cut off for saying negative things about the Pope.

hbnolikeee
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Stop me if you find this offensive

Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:20pm.

Michelle Obama walks into a bar with a duck.
The Bartender says: "Hay, you can't bring that pig in here!"
Michelle say: "It's not a pig, it's a duck."
The Bartender says: "I was talking to the duck!"

Do you think this kind of joke would ever be said on NPR? No, of course not, for it would be offensive.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court

Or Anwar al-Awlaki.

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Fatwa

Submitted by LaVallette on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 5:36am.

So when are we going to hear NPR recite some genuine Muslim Fatwas:

A man who has intercourse with a sheep is forbidden from eating the meat from that sheep!!!!

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!

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Fatwa

Submitted by LaVallette on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 5:39am.

So when are we going to hear NPR recite some genuine Muslim Fatwas:

A man who has intercourse with a sheep is forbidden from eating the meat from that sheep!!!!

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!

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Fatwa

Submitted by LaVallette on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 5:44am.

NRO: Let us see you reciting some genuine Muslim Fatwas:'

A man who has intercourse with a sheep is forbiddeen from meating that sheep!

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I had no idea

Submitted by soosan on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:08pm.

so many newsbusters readers listening to NPR... I heard the broadcast last weekend and admit to baiting my catholic sister-in-law by repeating the comments. Maybe since she's from Madisin, Wisconsin she remarked that the pontiff was getting what he deserved.

I wasn't disturbed so much by the jokes about the pope - catholics have been fair game in the media since forever, but I found it particularly tasteless when during the routine they referred to the acolyte (don't know the catholic term) who carries the incense/ball of smoking stuff as a little freak.

I regularly listen to the Sunday AM NPR lineup and don't remember ever hearing hearing an anti muslim comment.

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What an interesting idea

Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 03/26/2012 - 12:33pm.

That because a religion has been mocked in the past it's ok to continue to do so.

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