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David Gregory Smashed Paul Ryan With Hardballs, Then Said to the Liberal, 'Congressman, Respond'

By Tim Graham | February 20, 2012 | 09:03

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Brent Baker picked up on how Meet The Press host David Gregory was obsessing over Rick Santorum accusing President Obama of having a "phony theology" on his contraceptive mandate. That obsession was the first of several hardballs Gregory threw Rep. Paul Ryan. He went Full Russert on Ryan, throwing video clips of Democrats at him and pressing him to defend the Republicans, asking if the GOP would suffer for its alleged extremism.

But then there were the softball questions that Gregory threw the Democrat sharing that segment, Rep. Chris Van Hollen. This was Gregory's first softball "question" for the liberal: "Congressman Van Hollen, how do you see it?" Later, Gregory added this gem: "Congressman Van Hollen, respond."

Here's how it unfolded.

Smashing Ryan One: After playing a clip of Santorum whacking Obama for a "phony theology," Gregory asked:  "So, Chairman Ryan, let me start with you.  Is that what we can expect from Republicans in this campaign, is a faith-based broadside and an attack against the president's leadership?"

Ryan strongly suggested Obama was violating religious liberty. Gregory threw another hardball: "You think it's an appropriate part of the debate for a Republican contender for the White House to say the president has a phony theology as part of his agenda and say things like,  'Well, if he says he's a Christian then he's a Christian.' Haven't we been through all of this before trying to demonize the president?"

It didn't matter to sloppy Gregory that when Obama-defending reporters in Ohio asked if he was saying the president is less of a Christian than he was, Santorum said that "no one is suggesting that."

Van Hollen Softball One: After pushing Ryan around, Gregory then turned and asked "Congressman Van Hollen, how do you see it?"

Then he followed up by soliciting for anti-Santorum talking points: "How do you respond, though, more generally to what you heard Senator Santorum say out there on the campaign trail energizing the base by talking about a phony theology that he believes the president adheres to?"

Smashing Ryan Two: Gregory went back to Full Russert on Ryan with a Pelosi clip:

GREGORY: Well, part of this, of course, is not just happening on the campaign trail, Chairman Ryan, as you well know.  Republicans in the House are taking on this issue of contraception and what they see as a religious freedom test.  And this was the image at the first of two hearings by the House Government and Oversight Committee, all men, all religious leaders, all men, no women.  You heard Nancy Pelosi, she had a few things to say about that.  Listen.

NANCY PELOSI:  Where are the women?  And that's a good question for the whole debate.  Where are the women?  Where are the women on that panel?  Imagine they're having a panel on women's health and they don't have any women on the panel.  Duh.

GREGORY:  I mean, this was the "duh" moment.  There was a second panel where there were women, but there's still a larger question here.  There are Democratic leaders who are women who are using this for fundraising to say to a lot of women around the country who understand that contraception is not just about birth control but about women's health, that this should really be an issue.  Are you concerned as a Republican that Republicans are overdoing this issue and could actually hurt the party's chances in November?

Ryan wasn't intimidated: "No.  I'm concerned that the issue might get misconstrued.  Look, every person in America, men or women, are free to use contraceptions as they want to.  That's not the issue here.  The question is, is should the government have the kind of power to mandate these things of us?  This compromise is really a distinction without a difference, it's mandating that everybody pay for everyone else's free, you know, birth control and contraception.  The question is, is can the government mandate that people violate their religious teaching, their conscience, their freedom of religion?"

Van Hollen Softball Two: Gregory could have naturally turned around and wondered if the Democrats were going to suffer from pushing contraceptive mandates on Catholic employers, whether this might hurt Obama and the Democrats in swing states. But no, he served more liberal framing for the liberal:

Well, so you have two different visions here, Congressman Van Hollen, which is what you heard Congressman Ryan say or whether this is fundamentally a women's health issue and protection of accessibility to key elements of women's health.  Is that what you're going to see play out here?

How does anyone at NBC (or anyone in the American media) see this as Fair and Balanced David in action?

So this would be Gregory's defense. There were some tougher moments for Van Hollen -- when Gregory was hitting the liberal from further left. First, he seemed to think Van Hollen didn't support Gov. Martin O'Malley's crusade for "gay marriage" in his home state of Maryland:

GREGORY:  But we're -- I know, and we're going to get to the economy.  But I asked you a direct question about same-sex marriage.  You don't support same-sex marriage, do you?

VAN HOLLEN:  No, I do, I do support civil marriage equality. I -- especially with the provisions they have, for example, in the Maryland legislation that's being worked on to make sure...

GREGORY:  But you don't support, you don't support what Maryland has passed as a state, do you?

VAN HOLLEN:  I support what Maryland has passed, yes.

GREGORY:  So same-sex marriage is, in your view, constitutional and same-sex couples should be fully recognized as a marriage?

VAN HOLLEN:  I support the Maryland legislation, yes.

Gregory also pushed from the left on Van Hollen against keeping the payroll-tax cut: "Congressman Van Hollen, I spoke with business leaders this week at a discussion, a panel here in Washington.  You can't argue that this is somehow a big profile in courage to extend a tax cut that's not paid for at a time of great fiscal imbalance in Washington."

Smashing Ryan Three: When Gregory tuned to Ryan on the budget, he bizarrely suggested someone (not the Senate Democrats) haven’t passed a budget in three years. He went Full Russert again, complete with video clip:

GREGORY: We've got a budget here that's probably not going to be passed because they haven't passed one in over 1,000 days.  We're in a campaign year, so budgets seem not to really matter.  What you have are campaign blueprints and you have a Republican vision of what government ought to do for Americans and a Democratic vision of what they ought to do. I had the chief of staff, Jack Lew here, former budget chairman, excuse me, former head of OMB for the president.  And I asked him about what was necessary now and I want you to respond to what he said.

JACK LEW:  I think that there's pretty broad agreement that the time for austerity is not today.  We need to be on a path where over the next several years we bring our deficit under control.  Right now we have a recovery that's taken root and if we were to put in austerity measures right now, it would take the economy in the wrong way.

GREGORY:  So this is the fundamental point, Congressman Ryan, do you disagree with that?  Because Ben Bernanke, the Fed chief has made this point, which is protect the recovery, don't get into the realm of austerity where we're belt-tightening to the point, you know, that you see what's happening in Greece, that you could that you could hurt recovery that's occurring here in the country.

Van Hollen Softball Three: When Ryan was finished, Gregory then turned to the liberal and said, "Congressman Van Hollen, respond."

Liberal media critics who only count talking heads and don't seem to read transcripts would suggest that this segment was a fair-and-balanced one-and-one segment, and then later claim that overall, Republicans get more time than Democrats on these shows. (They often do this by excluding all the liberal reporters from their counts.) A fuller examination of these Sunday shows put the lie to the idea that these are cozy platforms for the GOP.

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After Paul Ryan serves..

Submitted by zenman1661 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 9:28am.

as Treasury Secretary in the soon to be Republican administration I could see him later doing a very good job as president

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And from

Submitted by bobsmom on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 9:49am.

what I saw, Mr Ryan smashed line drives right back at him. Go Paul!

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Is it "legitimate" to make gay marriage a national issue?

Submitted by Tim Graham on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 9:51am.

Gregory didn't just press Van Hollen on "gay marriage," by the way:

GREGORY: Congressman Ryan, do you think this is an issue that's legitimate for the presidential campaign? Do we have to come to a point where the country reconciles different views about this and we have a consistent way of looking at same-sex marriage?

RYAN: Actually, I came on to talk about the debt crisis we have and the budget and I think that's really the driving issue of this, this election. But I supported the Wisconsin amendment to define marriage between a man and a woman. Look, Bill Clinton signed into law the Defense of Marriage Act. If I recall from the last presidential campaign, President Obama, Vice President Biden said that they support marriage as being between a man and a woman. So you know, I don't know why we're spending all this time talking about this. We've got a debt crisis coming and the administration just gave us a budget that just simply charts another path to debt and decline. It's an unserious budget that just fails at tackling these challenges and I think that's what we ought to be talking about right now.

GREGORY: Well, but as you know, there's a presidential campaign and you're a Republican leader in the Congress and the reality is that these social issues are occupying a lot of bandwidth with the Republican primary voters. So you may want to talk about other issues, the truth is some of the standard-bearers of your party are also talking about these issues and that's why I wanted to get your views on them. But I do want to move onto the economy.


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Beautiful!!

Submitted by PJRyan on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:29am.

GREGORY: "vapid, DNC-shilling attempt to steer the conversation and control it by formulating the question in a way that there is no answer that can't be picked at.".

RYAN: "diplomatic bitch-slap clearly illustrating that the hack is off the promised topic desperately trying to make hay on a social issue that his administration is trying to use subversively to curry favor with a voting bloc. My position stated clearly and succinctly. FACT about Clinton. FACT about Obama and idiot-Biden. Strong statement as to what the conversation should be about. Unequivocal statement that it is an 'unserious budget'.

GREGORY: "silly, pathetic attempt to save face by framing the shill-topic as 'occupying a lot of bandwidth with the Republican primary voters', then harumphing that HE wants to talk on the serious topic.

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Hilarious!

Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:44am.

Are you an actual Interpreter?

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)
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I'd like to see...

Submitted by PJRyan on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:40am.

...the last SOTU address with sub-titles. I'd be willing to do it. I figure I'd need 5 phrases in the paste buffer; "rhetoric", "class warfare", "lie", "taking credit where it is NOT due" and "more BDS". I may be missing a few. The only tricky part would be where those classifications overlap.

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I suppose "BS" would be too general

Submitted by nonncom on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 6:09pm.

of a category.....and all encompassing anyway.....

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Gregory is just complying

Submitted by kg on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:20am.

Gregory is just complying with the White House's marching orders. All this hyperbole keeps them from addressing the real issues and the damage the Obama administration is doing to this great country. Republicans should adamantly refuse to play their game.

 

"DumbAssity of Dope"

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Tim: Let me be the first to ask....

Submitted by dyardley on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 12:58pm.

what may be a stupid/naive question. Is there anything that can be done LEGALLY to demand that the abusers of the American peoples trust report UN-BIASED news?? Our faux-president doesn't need campaign funds, he has the media. IMHO Republicans go on these shows, face the inane and hostile questions, because at least people are seeing their faces and know they exist. If they didn't, only NB readers and FNC watchers would ever hear their names. Unless of course, it's to have racist, homophobe or women-hater applied to them.

They misrepresent, ignore and lie about the truth. They are obsessed with social issues that matter to a very small % of Americans and can't get their minds out of the sex rut.

How can they legally use the word 'News' in their names? Thank God for NewsBusters, FNC, CNSNews and a few others for the work being done to point out the bias. Not sure if I got the point of my question across but its been bothering me greatly. The people of our great nation truly deserve better.

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Happy to read your comment.

Submitted by Conservator on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 2:22pm.

Obviously, Rep. Ryan was told he would be speaking about the debt crisis and the budget when he agreed to appear on NBC. He was hoodwinked by Gregory and NBC to discuss contraception and gay marriage because the network and David are rabid leftists in full campaign mode to reelect Obama.

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"Even Worse"

Submitted by mad53PA on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:02am.

I agree, Gregory once again proved himself to be nothing more than a Democratic shill and Obama mouthpiece.

What was omitted in the above summary was something that I thought was even more beyond the pale.

In his questioning of Ryan, Gregory not just quoted but read an entire fund raising letter from Patty Murray who is Chairman of the DNC Senate Election Committee.

He basically made the case that the Republicans were going back to the 1950's regarding contraception and women's rights, just as Murray's letter stated.

Talk about free advertising!

Obama: Hopeless Change!!

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Tim, we all know

Submitted by Clemenza on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:08am.

that David Gregory is a hypocritical left wing piece of $hit. Despite what he says . . . . .duhhh.

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yep, total political hack

Submitted by merly1 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:31am.

why do people even go on these low-rated shows?
And contraception is hardly only womens health--> condoms, male hormones, vasectomy etc
How do these "hosts" get away with such gross distortions of the truth.

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and in the fall elections-->there better be horrific Pelosi ads.

Submitted by merly1 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 10:38am.

show some photos of Pelosi, any of them are scary, with a clip asking:
"As Speaker in 2007-2010, she funded war surges in Iraq and Afghan, added 5 trillion in new debt, lost 7 million in jobs, and passed Owebama care........
do you want this woman as Speaker again? VOTE GOP"

...since she was too stupid to resign in 2011, the GOP would do well to make her the
face to the 2012 elections; Demonize her in the fall, and people voting GOP on the lower ticket
will likely vote GOP at top of ticket..................

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Gregory continues to practice

Submitted by celator on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:16am.

Gregory continues to practice his shoe shining skills on his show: he's hoping Valerie Jarrett will see him and hire him to be the Chief Shoe Shiner for Barry's and Michelle's large shoe collection. Hey! A lad can dream big dreams, no?

"This is not your mother's Democratic Party"--Andrew Breitbart, CPAC, February 2012
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Islam IS a 'phony theology'

Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:12am.

So, what exactly is the problem?

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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Lil' Geraldo is ugly and stupid

Submitted by frank14 on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 11:18am.

Why do Republicans subject themselves to his Media Matters approved talking points?

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Gregory drunk on IMUS....

Submitted by jmigyanka@msn.com on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 12:04pm.

......Drunken Gregory on IMUS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-BbjUSAD6w

JMigyanka
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Typical Gregory, far as I can see

Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 12:26pm.

He is always "leading the witness" and interviewing himself--how he can be considered a journalist, I don't know.

 

 

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⇒ New Liberal Sales Pitch

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 12:34pm.

Have you heard the latest? The government is now claiming that even more Americans are takers rather than makers.

Here's how it works, the part they don't tell you is bolded.  More government employees means the cost of government services goes up so, net-givers are becoming net-takers because their use of services exceeds the cost of the services.

Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!

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After this hit job on Ryan

Submitted by Captain Repus on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 12:54pm.

After this hit job on Ryan, Gregory followed up with the typical 'impartial' panel of himself and 3 other democrat lemmings vs one milk-toast Republican.

I see no way the Republicans have a prayer against the brainwashing of mainstream media reinserting Obammy into the anus of America for 4 more years. Of course most of these liberal pundits are quite accustomed to that entry point, aren't they.

Did you know Doug has Mesothelioma? We'll deal with the government. You have enough to worry about.
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David Gregory is a lot of

Submitted by NCfairandbalanced on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 1:04pm.

David Gregory is a lot of things: liberal, obnoxious, unfair, bully. I could go on, but won't. One thing he's not: dumb.

I seriously wonder if one of the reasons he and even others only go after the conservatives and give softballs to the libs is because Gregory and those others know what their guests can handle.

I know, he probably would go easier on them anyway, but deep down inside, these guys know the libs cannot defend their position as well as the conservatives.

There is a reason for this. Conservatives are better at it because they have more practice. No matter what network they're on, they are grilled. Libs are only grilled on Fox.

But there's an even more compelling reason why these people can't answer hardball questions as well: they actually have a harder task than the conservatives. All they have to do is simply tell the truth. The truth never needs defending. It is its own defense. Lies, on the other hand, need masterful speechmakers and quick thinkers for its defense. Gregory knows this, hence the softballs.

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⇒ There's another explanation

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 1:16pm.

It's extremely difficult for an interviewer to attack his own personally-held beliefs. Bad things happen.

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Republicans' Lack of Judgement

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 1:32pm.

Can anyone tell me why we shouldn't question the Republicans' willingness to appear before the Obama Propaganda Machine's progressive inquisition? Especially since Obama will only very rarely allow himself to be interviewed by any of the media on the right.

Well, anyway, I for one, am growing wary of any Republican who talks to the state controlled media. They know what to expect, but they continue to walk in to the ambush. And if they think they are going to get their message out to the other side, forget about it. It ain't getting through.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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Gregory

Submitted by rusino on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 3:05pm.

Gregory is just one more Democrate 'journalist' shill for Obama. Why are so many American's so Blind, Deaf and DUMB?

Rusino
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Gregory

Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 02/20/2012 - 3:51pm.

What was even more egregious? Gregory said it with *such* frustration in his voice - like he wanted to rebut Ryan but HAD to defer to Van Hollen!

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan
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