Piers Morgan Pushes Santorum If He'd Oppose Abortion If His Raped Daughter Was 'Begging You' For It
One of the hoariest tactics of liberal media personalities is to single out strongly pro-life candidates and ask them if they’d let their daughters get an abortion, even in a case of rape. Piers Morgan dragged out this line of questioning on Rick Santorum on Friday night, adding that in this far-fetched hypothetical, the daughter would be “begging you to let her have an abortion.”
Piers may have borrowed from his CNN predecessor Larry King's playbook, since Larry threw a version of this at Dan Quayle in 1992. This is not a tactic they’ve tried on Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. Can you imagine a liberal interviewer asking if they would accompany their daughter to the clinic? Or what they would do if the daughter regretted their abortion? No, only the pro-lifers get this hardball. (Video below).
PIERS MORGAN: Do you really believe, in every case, it should be totally wrong, in the sense that -- I know that you believe, even in cases of rape and incest -- and you've got two daughters. You know, if you have a daughter that came to you who had been raped.
RICK SANTORUM: Yes.
MORGAN: And was pregnant and was begging you to let her have an abortion, would you really be able to look her in the eye and say, no, as her father?
SANTORUM: I would do what every father must do, is to try to counsel your daughter to do the right thing. It’s a –
MORGAN: It's an almost impossibly hypothetical thing to ask you, but there will be people in that position --
SANTORUM: Yeah –
MORGAN: – and they will share your religious values.
SANTORUM: It's not a matter of religious values.
MORGAN: And they are looking at their daughter ,saying, how can I deal with this, because if I make her have this baby, isn't it going to just ruin her life?
SANTORUM: Well, you can make the argument that if she doesn't have this baby, if she kills her child, that that, too, could ruin her life. And this is not an easy choice. I understand that. As horrible as the way that that son or daughter and son was created, it still is her child. And whether she has that child or doesn't, it will always be her child. And she will always know that. And so to embrace her and to love her and to support her and get her through this very difficult time, I've always, you know, I believe and I think the right approach is to accept this horribly created -- in the sense of rape -- but nevertheless a gift in a very broken way, the gift of human life, and accept what God has given to you.
As you know, we have to, in lots of different aspects of our life. We have horrible things happen. I can't think of anything more horrible. But, nevertheless, we have to make the best out of a bad situation.
Morgan then moved on to challenge Santorum on capital punishment, asserting that a pro-lifer should oppose the death penalty if innocent people were executed. Morgan had no sympathy in this scenario for the innocent people who are murdered by criminals.
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Having an unwanted baby doesn't ruin a
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:13am.
woman's life. Adoption allows the innocent child to live and the mother to continue to live without the constant reminder of her trauma if that is what is nest for her. Killing the baby solves nothing, and will only add to the trauma of the woman.
Bingo!
Submitted by NC Boy on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:35am.
Wish Rick had thought to say that, but his answer was, (as the Brits would say) "Spot on".
According to our President
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:01am.
a baby is a punishment to a woman. And if you go by the legislation he's supported before, he'd be ok with his daughter's baby being alive and left alone on a table, to die naturally.
Why do conservatives even go
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:14am.
Why do conservatives even go on these sham programs?
YES...very important!
Submitted by gailannr on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:29am.
Why do these stooped conservatives even go on these stooped programs? They are starting to look like this: ((((((((())))))))))! Come on conservatives, get a backbone! IIIIIIIIIIIII!
In fairness to the liberal media
Submitted by Morganfrost on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:15am.
Bernard Shaw did ask Michael Dukakis how he'd feel about the death penalty if his wife were raped and murdered. Having acknowledged that, the question is basically asking someone if he's a hypocrite. Presumably, if a person who is otherwise presumed to be honorable advocates a particular position, he should be assumed to adhere to it in his personal life. I'm really not sure why this sort of question needs to be asked (unless someone has specific information showing that a candidate has been hypocritical on the particular issue).
Yes, but...
Submitted by Tim Graham on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:27am.
Bernie's question is definitely a version of this. BUT the other liberals were furious with him for going ahead with it!
That could have been Duke's version of the Newt answer to John King, and oh, how he muffed it.
I think Santorum answered the question better than Quayle.
Next Morgan will ask Obama
Submitted by kg on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:19am.
Next Morgan will ask Obama how would he handle it if his daughter got pregnant and without Obama's permission went to an abortionist at Planned Parenthood whose record has a history of blotched abortions and she ended up on life support at the hospital. I'm sure he will ask it...in all fairness.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Actually
Submitted by panzerakc on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:45pm.
I find myself wondering how Obama would respond if one of his daughters got pregnant as a teenager and begged to keep the baby.
If you look at a girl's momma to see her in the future...
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:05pm.
those girls aren't ever gettin' a man.
Piers Morgan should
Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:24am.
Piers Morgan should be threatened with being aborted without anesthesia. When he sees the knives coming he'd be pleading "Don't, don't, PLEASE don't".
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Amazingly ignorant!
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:27am.
I saw only part of this interview. My first impression was "not bad, Pierce", but I didn't see this part.
Pierce displays the typically ignorant Liberal's lack of understanding of the Catholic faith on both fronts.
Catholics believe that Life is sacred, and begins at conception. The real ignorance is displayed by Pierce when he tries to corralate the pro-life view with capital punishment, not realizing that the Catholic Church endorses CP in those extreme cases when there is little alternative other than CP when protecting the innocent from a repeat offender becomes the relevant issue. CP remains a viable option -- not to be used regularly, but when needed.
Very extreme, I know. Maybe less than one percent of all crimes committed fall under this category, but then again, fewer than one percent of all elective abortions fall into the category of rape and/or incest.
Are you going to justify the murder of an estimated 50 million Americans since R v W based on a circumstance that occurs less than one percent of the time? To me, that would seem pretty extreme.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
It's ridiculous to equate
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:46am.
It's ridiculous to equate abortion and capital punishment.
It's easy to see when you consider the word "punishment." It is punishment for a crime.
An innocent child has committed no crime to be "punished" for.
And Barack Obama is the only person I have heard deem a baby a punishment on the mother.
I'm disappointed, like Radical, that Santorum didn't bring up adoption.
Here is a beautiful story from a man grateful that his raped mother gave him life.
Ryan's Song
Piers Morgan
Submitted by NVRAT on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:21am.
Another sick MSM mind at work. At work? sorry about that but, yall know what I mean.
Has Piers Morgan ever asked
Submitted by TE on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:45am.
Has Piers Morgan ever asked any of the abortion enthusiasts who appear on his show if they agree with Obama that a woman who gives birth to an infant who has just survived an abortion should be able to summarily execute that infant or have the abortionist summarily execute that infant? If not, why not?
Does Piers Morgan agree with Obama that a woman who has given birth to an infant who has survived an abortion shoud be allowed to summarily execute that infant or have the abortionist summarily execute that infant? If not, why not?
I know the perfect COUNTER to this.
Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:14am.
This question is now an old saw that liberals use to try and wrong-foot Republicans and conservatives alike. And Republicans across the spectrum should go into ANY interview expecting it, and have the perfect counters to it.
I've got the perfect counters.
The question is this: 'Well, if your (daughter/wife/friend), (insert name of female family member here) was raped and got pregnant, would you order her not to abort?'
First off - this is an idiotic question. It is predicated on the horrible concept that EVERY pregnancy:
a) is the result of rape
b) is the result of incest
c) will kill the woman if the baby isn't aborted at once (i.e, pregnancy is a lethal disease that should be eradicated, like smallpox)
And the perfect counter is this: turn it right back around and throw it in the liberal media interviewer's lying, stinking face.
First step: Point out this failed liberal concept to the liberal democrat media interviewer. Say it like this.
'Mr. (or Mrs) Liberal Interviewer X - are you saying that you think every pregnancy is caused by rape or incest?'
Then sit back and watch the fun. Liberal interviewer X will splutter for a few seconds, and froth and twist in thier chair, then say something like, 'Well of course not! But IF....' and then they'll doggedly pursue their hypothetical worst-case scenareo. 'IF your loved was was raped, and IF she got pregnant, and IF she wanted to abort...'
Second step: Keep countering.
'Mr. Liberal Interviewer, let me first ask you this - if YOUR (female loved one X) got pregnant, and that pregnancy was NOT the result of incest - or rape - and would not harm your (female loved one X) - would you force your (female loved one X to abort the baby?'
Then again, sit back and watch the fun. Liberal Interviewer's face will redden, they'll splutter even more, and put up a mask of feigned indignation and say something like: 'How dare you! You're spinning a scenareo that hasn't happened, and would never happen, and demanding that I provide an answer! It's none of your business whether or not I would force my (female loved one X) to abort their baby!'
Third step: Ask the obvious.
'How, Liberal Interviewer, is that any different than what YOU have just done? You have spun a fairy-tale about female pregnant loved ones that don't exist, getting pregnant from rapes that never happened, wanting abortions for pregnancies that haven't taken place, and coming to me to make decisions that don't exist in reality. If you say it's none of my business to know if you would force your (female loved one X) to abort her baby, how is the reverse any of your business?'
Then liberal interviewer will start wringing their hands and snarling. 'Sir, what I or my family would do is not the issue! I am not running for office! The American people have a right to know what YOU would do as (elected official X)! I demand that you answer my question - the people have a right to know!'
Fourth step: Turnabout.
'Liberal interviewer, you have set yourself up as a gatekeeper. You sit in that chair and presume to lecture the American people about what is right and what is wrong. If you say that the people have a right to know, then they also have a right to know what kind of person you are. They have a right to know about your past, your family, and your ideologies. Why sir, are you in favor of abortion?'
Liberal interviewer: 'I am unbiased sir! I am an objective media figure who is only interested in getting the truth! The people have a right to know...'
Fifth step: Drive the point through their liberal hearts.
'Mr. Liberal interviewer - how many of your potential children have you had aborted?'
Liberal interviewer will continue to pretend to be indignant. 'How dare you sir! Such a question is outrageous!'
But keep pressing it. 'The people have a right to know, sir. How many of the pregnancies which you have caused ended with you personally insisting that the child be aborted?'
Liberal interviewer: 'Why you...! That's none of your...'
'Were any of those pregnancies the result of rape, Mr. Liberal interviewer? Did you ever rape any of the women you got pregnant, and therefore require that the baby be killed?'
Liberal interviewer: 'Well, I never..!'
'Were any of them the result of incest, Mr. Liberal interviewer? Have you committed incest with any family members and caused a pregnancy that you wanted to terminate because you would have been arrested?'
Liberal interviewer: 'You! You lousy...!'
'What about the health of the woman Mr. Liberal interviewer? Were any of the pregnancies you caused a health hazard to the women in your life? Was there something about being pregnant with your babies that would have killed those women?'
Liberal interviewer: 'That's none of your...!'
'Have you ever watched an abortion, Mr. Liberal interviewer? Did you know that they tear the fetuses apart with vacuum cleaners and throw the bodies of these babies away in trash bags labelled 'surgical waste'? Do you have any surviving children? Have they ever asked you if you would have aborted them? Please tell is Mr. Liberal Interviewer - what might your babies have been like if you hadn't aborted them? Don't the people have a right to know, Mr. Liberal interviewer?'
See? It's easy. I guarantee, liberal media figures, male or female, will be reduced to blubbering wrecks by this line of questioning. Because if there's on thing that liberals cannot abide, it's having the truth thrown back straight in their faces. And I guarantee that NO ONE has ever asked them questions like this before. No one has ever dared.
But they have gone round the bend and are now nothing but Obama's media slaves. The time has come to dare. The time has come to demand the truth behind who our media figures are and what kind of lives they have led. The time has come for our people to dare to ask them these questions and expose them as the dirty hypocrites they truly are.
COUNTER
Submitted by kilrod on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:53pm.
Good post Slyrr, i wish you could get it printed on the front page of every newspaper in the country and read on every news/talking head show. At least in the hands of every conservative Christian running for office.
And yep Newsbubba, i'm in favor of a few "post partum" abortions when the situation calls for it
kilrod "the Birther".
If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,??
I would discuss my daughter's options with her ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:13am.
... right after I blew away the SOB who raped her, if I could find his sorry ass.
Think of it as "aborting" a useless POS, pile of crap.
morals
Submitted by angelann1 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 12:24pm.
Liberals ,as you can see, have NO moral standing !!!
Turn it around, Piers
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 1:17pm.
Let's turn the situation around, Piers. Would you force your minor daughter to have an abortion if she was pregnant and decided to keep the baby? I mean, really, would you allow your child to be burdened with a child at such a young age?
How about it, abortion supporters, should any of you force your child to terminated that "burden?" Or would you allow her to "ruin" her life in such a manner as caring for a child at such a young age? After all, as long as she's a minor, so you have total control over her health and well-being, correct?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
By the way, Piers...
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 1:47pm.
By the way, Piers, what makes you think that his daughter would "beg" to have an abortion? After all, the baby didn't rape his daughter, so why would his daughter want that baby killed? Just as she's been taught by her parents, she understands the sanctity of life, in ALL situations.
But, of course, you just assume that she would "beg" to terminate that "unwanted" pregnancy, right? That's because it's what YOU would do, but not necessarily what others would do.
So, let's put it into context, shall we? Piers, if YOU raped his daughter and got her pregnant, would YOU insist that she abort that child?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
"Sterilize all babies of either sex when they're born."
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 1:46pm.
Then everyone can do whatever they want whenever they want for the rest of their lives and abortions will never be needed.
Of course we would also need to maintain a minimal population of fertile breeding stock to ensure survival of the species; fine robust specimens along the lines of Katrina vanden Huevel, Andrea Mitchell, Matt Damon and George Clooney come to mind.
OK,
Submitted by Ashrak on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 2:54pm.
so there is discussion abounding regarding why Santorum was asked this question. Merit all around, for sure, when it comes to discussion so far.
Consider this.
Abortion and birth control are really the only issues that Maddow types - whichever network.....they are all the same- have to try to slam him.
It is all they have. Al Sharpton tried to play the race card on him and Al got seeeeeeeerved, face to face.
IMHO, OLD Media fears Rick Santorum even more than they fear Sarah Palin. They look forward to Mitt and Newt versus Obama so they can toss the slime and avoid issues entirely. Many say Newt is all about the debates - Barry will simply refuse them all. Mitt fits the evil businessman and they can #occupy all election cycle.
Wanna really see Old Media squirm?
Wanna toss Mitt out handily?
Wanna set Newt's baggage to the side?
Wanna see the trade unions and the civil service unions split?
Wanna see Barry unable to run his game?
Pick Rick for the GOP nomination and throw the biggest monkey wrench in the gears of political establishment machine this nation has seen in a century.
Minor correction
Submitted by Model850 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 4:21pm.
One of the hoariest tactics of liberal media personalities....
Let me fix that for you, Tim:
One of the WHORE-iest tactics of liberal media personalities....
You're welcome!
Why am I not Surprised
Submitted by donabernathy on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 7:11pm.
Piers Morgan Would Have no problem Taking his Daughter to a Abortion Clinic............ and have no problem watching his grand children being hacked to death and sucked up by a vacuum...then, tossed in the garbage...
Not really Surprised
Of course his daughter outta thank her lucky stars... Old Piers didn't take the same trip with her Mother.
roflmao
Morgan hasn't a clue.
Submitted by acaiguana on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:20pm.
ACA
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