Bill Maher Twitter-Whips Tim Tebow, But CBS Says Tebow's the 'Notorious' One
Before he tweeted “Merry Mythmas everybody,” HBO host Bill Maher rubbed Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow’s face in the dirt on Twitter, but somehow Tebow’s the “notorious” one. Maher posted, “Wow, Jesus just [screwed] #TimTebow bad! And on Xmas Eve! Somewhere in hell Satan is tebowing, saying to Hitler ‘Hey, Buffalo’s killing them.’” But on CBSNews.com, reporter Ken Lombardi described Maher as simply a “comedian," but Tebow as a “notorious evangelical Christian.”
The word “notorious” has synonyms like “infamous,” “shameless,” and “disreputable.” But CBS didn’t care, insisting “And Maher’s in hot water again for a now-controversial tweet on Christmas Eve referencing famed quarterback and notorious evangelical Christian Tim Tebow.”
Eric Bolling of Fox News replied in kind on Twitter: “Bill Maher is disgusting vile trash. I can’t even repeat what he just tweeted about Tebow..on Christmas Eve. #straighttohellBill”
Rick Chandler of NBC Sports blogged that this won’t cause Maher to get cancelled: “Is that likely to happen this time? Maher more likely will get a raise. This whole controversy is manna from heaven for Maher, who has built his HBO show, Real Time with Bill Maher, on just such controversies....Maher is likely reveling in the attention, and if anything, the controversy will likely get him more viewers.”
The Los Angeles Times noted “the ‘Real Time’ host wasn't just taking on an exceedingly popular quarterback; he was also mocking the best-selling religious author of 2011. According to Yahoo! Sports, Tebow's 2011 memoir "Through My Eyes" has 475,000 copies in print, with many more expected to be sold after the season.”
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In our neighborhood, everybody has dropped HBO for
Submitted by merly1 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:28am.
one reason = Maher. It must be nice to have so much money, a company like HBO can
just toss half of its customer base aside..........................
HBO called me a few months ago
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:35am.
And asked me why a 20 year customer dropped them (I dropped them 5 yrs ago). I told them 2 words, Bill Maher. If they are calling folk who have dropped them years ago, you bet they are feeling it.
BTW they offered me a deal, I told them when they git rid of the haters, then call me back!
Even then, I wouldn't bother...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:41am.
They have sat back and have given Maher a forum from which to spew his bile for all these years, and I wouldn't give them a dime of my money.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
We had HBO years and years ago, and won't ever...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:40am.
get it again as a result of sewer mouth, donkey-face Maher's association with the channel.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Just Canceled My HBO
Submitted by mike7705 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:16pm.
It isn't just his recent Tebow comment...it's that all his comments are insane. I've never watched him of course, just hear what he says here on NB. I will not subscribe again until he is canceled.
You ever notice ...
Submitted by CO2Maker on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:31am.
Julian Assange (of Wikileaks) and Bill Mohair (of Dikileaks) bear a strong resemblance to each other?
Because
Submitted by Franksam on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:13am.
They came out of the same petri dish.
CO2
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:42am.
I noticed that similarity when the Wikileaks story broke. However, Maher doesn't have the rugged, manly look of Assange.
ROFLMAO!!!
Submitted by Soldat44 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 11:02am.
ROFLMAO!!!
CBS has changed their story
Submitted by Fredy on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 1:36am.
The CBS story has been changed. It was replaced with a similar story by a different author.
I suspect there is a very large backlash against all of the religious bigots.
I noticed that the word
Submitted by MrSnuggles on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 2:11am.
I noticed that the word notorious had been removed. Cowards.
It wasn't removed. It is still mentioned in the orginal
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 2:18am.
Lombardi piece. But it doesn't appear in the more recent article--a different report by a different reporter.
Jer
CBS didn't simply describe Maher as a "comedian"
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 1:47am.
but one who is being "blasted" and is in "hot water" for his controversial twitter comments [which CBS posted, by the way.]. Lombardi also noted that Tebow is a famed quarterback with a strong religious faith. While "notorious" may have an increasingly negative connotation, it is not invariably interpreted as such, and it can also be used in the following sense:
"publicly or generally known, as for a particular trait: a newspaper that is notorious for its sensationalism. Synonyms: notable, renowned, celebrated, prominent, conspicuous, famous, widely known".
If Lombardi had wanted to describe Tebow or his evangelism as "shameless" and "disreputable" it is likely he would have done so unambiguously.
Jer
That must be why they
Submitted by MrSnuggles on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 2:12am.
That must be why they completely removed the story and replaced it with a new one? Come on, even you can't possibly believe that the blatant insult wasn't intentional.
To repeat: They didn't remove the story. It's still there..
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 2:23am.
unaltered.
Imo, it seems unlikely CBS would intentionally insult a young man who has millions of admirers.
Jer
Evangelical?
Submitted by Jersey Girl on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 7:33am.
When did it become relevant to identify people by their religion?
Tim Tebow is a football quarterback.
The media has so degraded our culture as to make America nearly unrecognizable since the election of their hero Obamao.
It's up to us to turn the tide.
Jer
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:47am.
Your own example shows how "notorious" is used today. Why didn't you write something like, "a newspaper that is notorious for its integrity." Because no one uses it that way in the printed word.
One thing that Bill Maher is not, is brave. Regardless of whether he considers himself a comedian, a satirist or just a commenter of current events, there is material enough for several years of ridiculing that current President. He lacks the internal fortitude to do this. CBS would also dump him in a heartbeat if he did.
Tugboat...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 6:11pm.
Of the generally accepted definitions of "notorious", the pejorative connotation appears to have overtaken the more benign meaning in recent years. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, however, that Lombardi would personally besmirch Tebow by implying he is disreputable--unless he was referring to how those who are put off by Tim's overt religious exhibitions may view his public displays of faith.
As far as Maher, I don't like him; I don't watch him; I have no use for him. However, I think he has criticized the current President. But I'm not sure.
Jer
Jerister
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 6:55pm.
Jer, Google "he's notorious for", "she's notorious for", "they're notorious for".
I did, and what came back was roughly (tallied from looking at several pages) an 8-2 to 9-1 ratio of bad connotations/references vs. good or neutral/NA.
People who know the English language know that "notorious" leans more to something negative. You know it, I know it, and surely a skilled, professional writer/journalist at CBS (and with their professional editors) knows it.
And we all have to prepare for yet another year of Jer the Barister, our resident liberal word -smith and -twister.
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Submitted by stratman on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 7:41pm.
You mean you don't say "notorious Mister Rogers", "notorious Glinda, good witch of the South", or "notorious Albert Einstein"? (sarc/off)
Can you give a couple examples of when "notorious" was used as a neutral or positive adjective? I can not recall the last time I saw notorious used to describe a quality, trait, behavior, etc that wasn't perceived as negative by a group.
stratmandu...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:13pm.
Notorious means well known for an undesirable trait or for any particular trait. (adjective)
An example of notorious is a person known for her alcoholic tendencies.
[and/or]
An example of notorious is a person known for their excellent cake decorating abilities.
[italics mine]
source.
I thought my noting in previous posts its "increasingly negative connotation" and that "the pejorative connotation appears to have overtaken the more benign meaning in recent years" would sufficiently indicate my familiarity with the more common usage of "notorious".
My impression of Lombardi's reporting was that he was more likely using the word in the context of its secondary meaning. That seemed to make more sense. But, it's just my opinion and I could very well be mistaken.
Jer
Well, Jer, of course---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:23pm.
he would use the word in the context of its secondary meaning.
Don't all reporters?
Doesn't everyone?
In your usual race to fade the heat for any comments that might be perceived as anti-conservative - I'm surprised you didn't state that to obtain proper gravitas, all media types should entertain the thought of using any given word's tertiary meaning.
Provided, of course, that it has such.
MD
Well, quite clearly, it's what I'm notorious for....
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:52pm.
racing to fade the heat, that is.
Jer
MD & Strat
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:02pm.
And how about basic pop culture? Something that influences us all.
Movie? Notorious, directed by Alfred Hitchcock -- About (and referring to) a "notoriously" boozy and promiscuous daughter of a disgraced German father who is recruited by American agents to infiltrate a post-World War II spy ring in Brazil.
Music? Notorious by Duran Duran -- By all accounts was referring to the media and their cruelty toward Duran Duran. E.g., the lyric, "Lay your seedy judgments. Who says they're part of our lives? You own the money. You control the witness."
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Shy...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:16pm.
I believe it was set in Argentina, wasn't it?
Great movie, btw. Favorite line: Madam Konstantin to son [Claude Rains] after discovering his wife's [Ingrid Bergman] treachery:
"For the time being you are protected by the enormity of your stupidity" [or something close to that]
Jer
All I know is it has 2 of my very favorite
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:29pm.
Actors, Bergman and Grant
A few quotes
Alicia: I'm terrified.
Devlin: Just pretend you're a janitor. Janitors are never terrified.
Alicia: I have a feeling they're very slow
Alicia: My car is outside.
Devlin: Naturally.
You cant have Grant and not have humor!
Ah the old days...
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:43pm.
I love Claude Raines...I don't know how I've missed seeing this movie. Now I have a resolution for 2012.
Boudin, Rad, Jer - Cary Grant
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:19pm.
A couple more morsels from that classic:
Alicia: This is a very strange love affair.
Devlin: Why?
Alicia: Maybe the fact that you don't love me.
Devlin: A man doesn't tell a woman what to do. She tells herself.
And since we're on Cary Grant, Boudin's exactly right. He could do it all, but every one of his movies *had* to have some comedy in them, as he was/is the master at delivering great lines.
Up next -- To Catch A Thief, 1955:
John Robie: I only regret one thing.
Danielle Foussard: [who's native language is French] That you never asked me to marry you?
John Robie: No, that I ever taught you English.
Danielle Foussard: You steal a small fortune and then lie on the beach with an American beauty.
John Robie: That's why one needs a small fortune.
John Robie: You're here in Europe to buy a husband.
Frances Stevens: The man I want doesn't have a price.
John Robie: Well that eliminates me.
Frances Stevens: Are you sure you were talking about water skis? From where I sat it looked as though you were conjugating some irregular verbs.
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Shy
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:20pm.
This is why I see very few current movies. I'm spoiled by the past...
John Robie: Say something nice to her, Danielle.
Danielle Foussard: She looks a lot older up close.
[John Robie whimpers]
Frances Stevens: To a mere child, anything over twenty might seem old.
Danielle Foussard: A child? Shall we stand in shallower water and discuss that?
Rad79
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:43pm.
Yes, another great exchange! I was almost going to add that one :)
And just before that:
Danielle Foussard: Why do you want to buy an old car if you can get a new one cheaper? It will run better and last longer.
John Robie: Looks like my old car just drove off.
Frances Stevens: [suddenly appearing, swimming toward them] No, it's turned amphibious.
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Shy
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 11:04pm.
OMG I just love that dialogue. But don't get me started on Casablanca or The Maltese Falcon. Those movies are full of great quotes too.
Do you think anyone will be quoting "Bridesmaids" or "Friends with Benefits" in the future? Me neither.
Funniest movie ever, imo
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 12/31/2011 - 1:07am.
Is Merrily We Live, starring little known folks as , Billy Burke, Brian Aherne and many others, Some quotes:
Mrs. Emily Kilbourne: Do you drive a car?
Wade Rawlins: Well, I did.
Mrs. Emily Kilbourne: Oh, but that's wonderful! Ambrose was such a poor driver, they tell me.
Marian Kilbourne: Mother, if you're thinking of asking this... this...!
Mrs. Emily Kilbourne: My mother always told me that children should be seen and not heard.
Marian Kilbourne: Yes, but your mother was smarter than my mother.
Marian Kilbourne: [introducing the two Great Danes] His name is "Get Off the Rug." His is "You, too!"
Mrs. Emily Kilbourne: Every night when I go to bed, I search myself.
Marian Kilbourne: Did you ever find anything?
Jerry Kilbourne: Maybe he didn't have a father.
Mrs. Emily Kilbourne: Oh darling, everyone has a father, that's one of nature's unwritten laws.
shoot, forgot THIS ONE!! :)
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:24pm.
One more great one from To Catch A Thief:
Frances Stevens: Forget it... Drinking dulls your senses.
John Robie: And if I'm lucky, some of my hearing.
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One of my favorite movie quotes
Submitted by 26CX on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:35pm.
"Mongo only pawn... in game of life. "
26CX
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:45pm.
My dad and brother dragged me to see Blazing Saddles, kicking and screaming. When it was done, I begged them to let me stay and watch it a second time, and I did. I was about 8 then.
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Shy
Submitted by 26CX on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 11:00pm.
You were a very lucky young man!
I love that movie, and thanks to my kids I have my own copy to watch whenever I want to! ;)
Very close
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:32pm.
Madame Sebastian: We are protected by the enormity of your stupidity, for a time.
Back then, the dialog was the movie, today not so much
Thanks, Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:36pm.
Jer
This is how "notorious" is defined
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:21pm.
in legal sense:
"generally known and talked of"
Jer
So, by "legal sense"
Submitted by 26CX on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:49pm.
you mean "not common vernacular"?
Inconceivable, Jerzzini
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:49pm.
Inconceivable, Jerzzini
When was the last time you referred to a client of yours as notorious in court?
You failed to include the example your Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law provided:
Even the example clearly uses "notorious" in a pejorative statement. Why? By convention the word is used to impart a negative context. The overwhelming subtext of its use is negative.
Now let's look at Mirriam-Webster's non-legal dictionary definition, which clearly considers the word as a pejorative*:
Which of the synonyms would be considered a positive or even a neutral descriptor?
* Pejorative: a word or phrase that has negative connotations or that is intended to disparage or belittle.
stratMan of La Cleveland...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 11:07pm.
As I recall, the last time I referred to a client as "notorious" in court was when I was suing the deadbeat scofflaw for unpaid legal fees.
Regarding a neutral synonym, I would have to go with "shy" [even though NB's own MrShy does get under my skin occasionally, I would stop short of calling him disgraceful, infamous, etc.]
Jerzzini [enjoyed the vid, btw]
Sounds Like You Went All
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 12/31/2011 - 12:25am.
Jeratticus Finch on him.
At this moment it's stratman of La Munchies because I just had a glass of port and nibbled on chocolate, cheese and pita bread.
While I may lean right when confronted by a garden gnome and his windmill, isn't it cheating to use your own cognomen in our appellation fest?
(To be clear, the garden gnome is not you)
Since Maher hates religion,
Submitted by rbosque on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 1:50am.
Since Maher hates religion, I'm eagerly waiting for him to describe Islam in the same manner. But we all know he's a chicken-sh!t coward so I'm not holding my breath, After all, according to him all faiths are made-up.
DirecTV & HBO
Submitted by NascarShizzle on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 3:26am.
I only order HBO for the great series like Boardwalk Empire. I've been too lazy to cancel it, but will do so on Friday and make the phone call and not cancel on-line. My satellite provider will know personally that I won't pay to see a douche bag like Bill Maher on their network.
Is that Bill's momma
Submitted by cocodrie on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 4:31am.
Is that Bill's momma he's posing with in that picture? She looks better than I thought she would.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I can't...
Submitted by GeneralAl on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 6:36am.
I can't even post what I feel about this scumbag placenta known as Bill Maher!
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
General
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:09am.
That was an extremely unfair comment! Even Placenta serves a a vital purpose in the cycle of life, unlike Maher.
Bill Maher's not even
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:01am.
Bill Maher's not even admired by his Hollywood pals. This year he got skunked for an Emmy for the 27th time Susan Lucci's losing streak was 19!
Apparently his pals don't even care enough about him to give him a Pity Emmy.
His excuse?
"Honestly, my take is that you cannot speak the truth about as many things as I do without incurring the wrath of some people who vow every year not to vote for me," he told the L.A. Times last year. "I'm sure that happened after I said what I said about 9/11. I guarantee there have been those who pledge, 'I'll never vote for him because he's an atheist and says all those things about God.' Others probably declare, 'I'll never vote for him because he doesn't think we should get a flu vaccination.'"
If we were talking about general viewer voting, that might wash. But since the voters are his peers in Hollywood, where his views are not that far out of line, I doubt those are the reasons.
His peers in Hollywood?
Submitted by CO2Maker on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:48am.
So, Bill Mohair speaks truth to powder?
Maher
Submitted by alberta43 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:06am.
Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matt. 5:11 NRSV
Matt. 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Ann Coulter & Maher
Submitted by jpalm32 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 9:37am.
Can't wait to see those pictures he has of Coulter. Silent blackmail
one word
Submitted by ron on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:36am.
bill needs to put in his vocabulary and practice saying often is OOPS because that will pop into his head one day when his knee will bow and and his mouth confess Jesus is Lord
well at least we have photo proof of something...
Submitted by dmacleo on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:40am.
that dogs will eat crap...
hbo
Submitted by ladeflippinda on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:44am.
I don't understand how Conservatives can pay for the crap put on by HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and the like. Their programming is not life-affirming nor representative of our conservative values.
The Self-Awareness of Michael Scott
Submitted by 76United on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 10:52am.
Bill Maher has no self awareness. Doesn't he realize his evangelical atheism is as annoying as Tebow's evangelical christianity? Leave people be. When was the last time Maher went to a 3rd world country to help the poor. When was the last time Maher helped build hospitals. Yes, Tebow's fanaticism can go too far, but at least he's a good guy. What does Maher do? Complain, hate and do blow off of strippers and playmates.
Shameless
Submitted by tiger20 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 11:08am.
I am neither overtly religious nor a fan of Tim Tebow., having watched him wreak havoc on my LSU Tigers. Yet, I respect both his athletic prowess and his faith. Tim Tebow represents all that is good in athletics and the fact he elects to honor his God when celebrating successful moments or even when dealing with dissapointment should be his right without disparagement. The shameful reaction he has evoked will hopefully be one of the tipping points that marks the beginning of the end for the vile media and the sheer arrogance of the Hollywood elite.
Hopefully this treatment of Tebow will become the rallying point that ignites a wholesale backlash against these liberal minions whose ideology will be so shamelessly exposed in the next 10 months leading up to the 2012 election. We must firmly and forcefully call them out each and every time their bias appears, which will be in every article they write, every network news feature, every TV and movie portrayal of a political issue and even non-issues. It is time we let them know we are going to take back this country one election at a time and we will no longer support their leftist ideology. As many have stated we must make a financial statement by cancelling HBO, newspapers and magazines which continue to spew this garbage. We must also let their sponsors and advertising clients know we will not purchase their products if they continue to support these media institutions with their advertising dollars.
Well, Tiger
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 12:24pm.
Turnabout is fair play, and this Gator will be (hopefully) wearing a LSU national champion t-shirt in January. Good luck, and roll the Tide (IMO, they shouldn't be at the game).
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Notice how Lombardi refers to
Submitted by Restless Legs on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 11:16am.
Notice how Lombardi refers to the "now-controversial" tweet. In other words, Maher's words aren't "controversial" in their own right, but they're only "now-controversial" because of the attention they're getting. If similar language or thoughts had been used by Maher against a Muslim or a homosexual, there would be no "controversy." People like Lombardi would immediately brand those words as "hateful," "homophobic," and "vile," and they would be calling for HBO to fire Maher.
Tebow is being watched
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/30/2011 - 8:45pm.
I'm sure Tebow's trash is being thoroughly inspected, and his every move is being examined. Being human, Tebow will make a mistake, and the media will be there to report on it with glee. Meanwhile, the left can use drugs, prostitutes, etc, and there's barely the blink of an eye.
According to Bill it would
Submitted by God help us on Sat, 12/31/2011 - 12:32am.
According to Bill it would be better to have morepeverted, sex razed, drug junkies than a QB who believes in God.
Bill maher is
Submitted by Bliggie on Sat, 12/31/2011 - 1:58pm.
Bill maher is the rich white guy that he and his ilk hate. What is it about our country and it's traditions and religions( Judaism and Christianity) that this ugly little prick hates so much? I don't understand the mindset of one hating and trash talking the very society that not only allows and protects his vile rants, but allows him to make enormous amounts of money because of them. And if these rich celebs love communism so much, why don't they move to a communist country?