WaPo Says No Contest: Majority of Lying Junk E-Mail Comes from the Right, Not the Left
Washington Post media reporter Paul Farhi charged in the Sunday Outlook section that conservatives are the bigger liars with sub-rosa e-mail gossip chains: "when it comes to generating and sustaining specious and shocking stories, there’s no contest. The majority of the junk comes from the right, aimed at the left."
Who did the measuring of this tilt? Why, the Washington Post fact checker, of course, and Politifact.com (run out of the liberal St. Petersburg Ties) and FactCheck.org, run by the liberal Annenberg Center at the University of Pennysylvania. In other words, the liberal media-political complex is claiming to be "nonpartisan" again.
Nonpartisan debunkers such as FactCheck.org, Snopes.com, PolitiFact.com, Emery and The Washington Post’s Fact Checker have been chasing down these tales and dousing them like three-alarm fires for years. (There’s even a chain e-mail that paints Snopes as a liberal cover-up for the White House.) It’s often difficult for these myth-busters to say with certainty where a falsehood began. But the numbers are clear.
Of the 79 chain e-mails about national politics deemed false by PolitiFact since 2007, only four were aimed at Republicans. Almost all of the rest concern Obama or other Democrats.
Farhi quoted Ari Fleischer as the only feint toward conservatives or Republicans in the piece but Fleischer wasn't quoted challenging the Farhi thesis. How scientific is Snopes, for example, in "turning up" false political e-mails? Do they rely on tips, and sent by whom? Can a "nonpartisan" site be an easy mark for partisan sources? (Farhi links to that Soros-funded group run by David Brock, for example.)
Snopes turned up 46 viral e-mails regarding Bush during his eight years in office. By contrast, in just four years as a candidate and as president, Obama has been the subject of 100 such chain e-mails. The difference is not just in number but in kind: Twenty of the 46 Bush e-mails checked by Snopes turned out to be true, and many of these flattered or praised him. Only 10 e-mails about Obama have been true, and almost every one of them has been negative.
Emery estimates that more than 80 percent of the political e-mails that he’s vetted over the past decade were written from a conservative point of view. “The use of forwarded e-mail to spread [false information] around is overwhelmingly a right-wing phenomenon,” he said.
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was a frequent target of chain e-mailers when she was speaker of the House, recalls Snopes founder David Mikkelson. But he can’t recall a single urban myth about her successor, Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio). Even former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, who inspires apoplexy among liberals, hasn’t rated much on the e-mail circuit since her stint as Sen. John McCain’s running mate in 2008.
Palin hasn't been lied about much? This is where the article just underlines how the "fact checkers" aren't interested in "defending" Sarah Palin.
Wacky e-mails making demonstrably ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims about Obama are despicable. The media loves grasping on them to tar conservatives as a whole. It all comes around to a familiar liberal media-elite thesis. The "gatekeepers" have lost their power to dominate, meaning the lies run wild now, when they never did when the liberam media dominated:
Changes in the news media landscape have also helped lies to thrive. A generation or more ago, powerful gatekeepers — large newspapers, broadcast networks, a news magazine or two — dominated the dissemination of national news. No more.
“There was a mainstream media that acted as a filter,” says Bill Adair, the editor of PolitiFact. Now, the filter is overwhelmed. “The Internet is a megaphone that spreads conspiracies quickly before there’s anyone to correct the facts,” he says. “There’s no one between your crazy uncle and his address book.”
Perhaps the best theory comes from Ari Fleischer, who served as Bush’s first press secretary. Fleischer points out that conservatives traditionally mistrust mainstream news. E-mail is another way for them to put out their own messages, countering the perceived biases of traditional media sources, he says. “If you believe the liberal media is covering up,” Fleischer explains, then you might be more susceptible to believe and pass on an outrageous e-mail.
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Nothing New Here
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 10:33am.
Isn't the English definition of Pravda, "truth?"
So -
Submitted by 4Deuce on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 10:41am.
So, the WaPo actually PAYS people to sit down and type unprovable, idle speculation and have it published? And they wonder why their circulation is cratering. Next they will have some hack like this a**clown covering a conference of Hollywood B actors debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
I'm surprised they didn't
Submitted by kg on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:26pm.
I'm surprised they didn't compare the junk emails with Clinton...even before PC became mainstream.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
I don't trust much..
Submitted by zenman1661 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 10:49am.
Politifact or FactCheck.org but I have found the Post's Fact Checker fairly non-partisan. But the findings of this column can't be taken seriously since it was not established if those emails are a statistically valid representation of all the political chain emails that are going around.
I believe I made this same point
Submitted by Clevenative on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 10:57am.
A few days ago - in referencing Tea Party signs and images portraying Obama as the AntiChrist and I got nothing but the expected "both sides do it" claims and "examples".
Yeah, and the Yankees and Astros BOTH win baseball games. LOL
No Clevie
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:03am.
What you got is a good a$$ kicking as your signs were proven to be NOT part of Tea Party events or faked.
~Wow
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:07am.
Clevie was burned so badly by his massive FAIL in this area that he's whimpering about it on unrelated threads. Good job, J & Co..
You've YET to "make a point" on ANYTHING since you CAME here.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:12am.
"LOL" and "ROFLMAO."
Pointless, yet again
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:17am.
With apologies to Shawn, I may start calling you Oblio.
Three does not equal dozens.
Not even in liberal math land.
You, Cleve, are not smart enough to do fifth-grade math.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
You're still here, meat????
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:19am.
You're still here, meat???? I'm really tired of trying to read some thread and seeing your snide ass in here, making your arrogant and delusional statements........................and you didn't make any point about the TEA Party signs to anyone but yourself - which is the case with everything that you post on this website.
By the way..............I want your 'stash'..............you've got MORE than me!!!!!
both sides?
Submitted by Samshile on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:04pm.
You mean Left and Far Left? 10% do it on the Left and 1% on the Right. Typical and Atypical. Common and Uncommon. Sample sizes. Your evaluations are typical MSM style. Skewed
Which is worse?
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:02am.
Lying, junk email or lying, junk newspapers?
Who's Lying:
Submitted by Rikki_Doxx on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:10am.
I've saved about 250 pages of single paragraphs of media lying and conservative bashing. Anytime a liberal friend of mine comes up with how nasty conservatives are I just let them page through that file.
I guess its good for the left
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:10am.
That they didn't go back far enough to take truther emails into account.
Pathetic
Submitted by ThePickle on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:18pm.
Typical liberal spin.....forward a hypothesis...then scour the available evidence to find that information that supports your hypothesis........ignore any evidence that would tend to refute your assertions.....disseminate said assertions as the absolute truth....unilaterally claim the argument over and declare themselves the winner.
Yep typical liberal spin.
Yep, this is what passes for
Submitted by amyshulk on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:20pm.
Yep, this is what passes for critical thinking with these idiots!
Ronald Reagan
Spin
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 2:19pm.
I am unable to understand how a person can look directly into a tv camera or write an article that they know is a lie. I guess that is why they use the term "SPIN". Gives them cover.
Filter?
Submitted by Samshile on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:00pm.
There was a mainstream media that acted as a filter,” says Bill Adair, the editor of PolitiFact.
Ya a filter that omits 1/2 of the story. Like the congressman was a "Democrat". The govenor was "Liberal" filter.
Let's be part of stopping this
Submitted by NC Boy on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:00pm.
Let's face it, folks, there are some ridiculous E-Mails that just keep making the rounds. I think some of them are created by libs just to bait us. I received on in the last two weeks that "quotes" Obama as saying on Meet the Press in 2008
"The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it."
Forget the other side. We would all do OUR cause a favor if we would do more fact-checking before we forward E-Mails.
The left has to lie
Submitted by Al Teal on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:08pm.
Thus another lie from the Washington Post.
Liberals have to lie to trick people into voting for Democrats. If liberals and Democrats were honest about their intentions after winning elections, none would be elected.
There are lies, and then there are d*mn lies.
Submitted by needle on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 9:42pm.
How does anyone know what all of these email chains are?
And how does anyone know how many of these were created by Soros employees to create this slander against the right?
Have a look at Snopes's debunking of slanders against Sarah Palin. What fraction of the total number of slanders do you think are addressed?
When I get something over the top I attempt to check out its veracity before forwarding it.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
All you have to do is watch
Submitted by RealVet on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:50pm.
All you have to do is watch Bucketmouth Chris "Tingles" Matthews for a daily dose of left wing lies, inaccuracies, and myths.
Then there's these gems from the past:
- Bush knew about 911 beforehand
- Karl Rove headed a task force to blow up the New Orleans Levees
- The Bush admin. was behind the "plot" to fly (empty) planes into the WTC by remote control
- There was no WMD
- Bush "outed" a CIA "agent"
- Bush dodged his National Guard duty
- Saddam Hussein never bought yellowcake uranium
- Bin Laden was a "mythical" figure created by the Bush administration
- Karl Rove was a member of the Aryan Nation
- Republicans engineered the housing crisis
- U.S. Marines executed Iraqi civilians at Haditha
- The Reagan admin. created the AIDS virus
There's hundreds more, but you get the drift ...
But Clevie-Poo will tell you
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:28am.
But Clevie-Poo will tell you that ALL of these things are 'TRUTH'!!!!! And more!!!
Alternate explanation... Liberals are whiners
Submitted by taznar on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 3:59pm.
As you hint, these sites rely on people submitting "facts" for checking. So maybe the difference is conservatives just trash the "lying junk email" and move on, while liberals feel the need for reassurance from some "higher authority".
taznar
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 11/21/2011 - 4:34pm.
That's an interesting point! I know my bs meter is fairly good, and I'm not big on validation/affirmation, so unless someone else brings it up, I just ig them.
Ronald Reagan