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CNN's Blitzer Lets Debbie Wasserman Schultz Insist on Cain Disclosure, Forgets She Wanted Weiner Left Alone

By Tim Graham | November 12, 2011 | 15:29

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Colby Hall at Mediaite highlighted how Democratic Party Chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz went on The Situation Room on CNN on Friday and trashed Herman Cain for using the word "princess" for Nancy Pelosi: “I thought it was a pretty callous, sexist throwaway line.” Then Wolf Blitzer allowed her to unload a wagon of talking points against the entire GOP field for 66 seconds. When he then asked if she believed Cain or his accusers, she insisted “I think Herman Cain needs to come clean and address them and say far more than he’s said already.”

Mediaite and CNN have short memories, since Wasserman Schultz embarrassed herself back in June by insisting Anthony Weiner didn't have to share anything with the public...other than the bulge pictures he'd already posted on Twitter. Blitzer should have remembered -- since she refused to offer a Weiner opinion on CNN, as Blitzer repeatedly asked for one:

WOLF BLITZER: Let's talk about your colleague, Anthony Weiner. I noticed on the House floor, you had an animated conversation with him today. What were you talking to him about?

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: I was actually just talking to him about the votes that we were -- that we were casting at the moment. And just, you know, kibitzing with him a little bit. But you know, what Anthony Weiner is dealing with right now is a personal matter, and that's -- that's where it should be left.

BLITZER: Listen to what Steny Hoyer said today. He gave him some advice. He's the number two Democrat in the House. I'll play the clip.

REP. STENY HOYER: He and I had a discussion. I told him that he needed to handle this and need to give the facts to the public.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Has he done that to your satisfaction?

HOYER: Frankly, I've not been following it. [!] So I don't know whether he's done that.

BLITZER: Do you agree with Steny Hoyer?

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Like I said, I think this is a personal matter, and that's how it should be left.

BLITZER: Because Eric Cantor, the Republican, the majority leader in the House of Representatives, he says that Anthony Weiner has a lot more explaining to do, if you will.

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Anthony Weiner is dealing with a personal matter, and it should be left as a personal matter.

BLITZER: Do you believe that someone did hack into his account and -- and send out that picture, as he says?

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: I think Anthony Weiner is dealing with a personal matter and that is where it should be left.

In a CNN blog, reporter Dana Bash quoted a harsher version. The DNC chair said it was “inappropriate” for other members of Congress to discuss: "It's his Twitter account. It's his deal. It's personal. It's not something that's appropriate for another member to comment on. It's something he is dealing with personally and that's where I think it should be left." 

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This poor excuse for a

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 3:43pm.

This poor excuse for a washed-out cocker spaniel 'embarrasses herself' everytime she opens her big blabbering mouth!!!

Sorta like her boss.............

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Apologize

Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 8:10pm.

You need to apologize to all blonde cocker spaniels.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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You're right,

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 9:53pm.

You're right, Rick...........I'm sorry I'm late - I was sitting on the park bench, under the pine trees, playing my guitar for a while as I watched the surf, and then I paddled out and had some fun on a nice Saturday over here. Grabbed some red curry Thai vegetables over rice on the way home, and now I can check out some football - maybe Oregon/Stanford. UH is playing later on, but they're so damn inconsistant that it's irritating to watch!!!

So, to all of the washed-out cocker spaniels in the world.................I'M SORRY for comparing you to Dopey Blabbermouth Shutts.

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In that

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 3:52pm.

picture she has a larger 'adams apple' than i do. Just sayin`.

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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Careful there,

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:01pm.

Careful there, prison.........you might offend the transgendered lobby. And you can be sure that she's got a bigger................................mouth - than you do!!!!

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Killa

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:03pm.

LMAO..........I think the 'transgendered lobby' might be offended by her.

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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Resume Enhancment for '''Progressives'''

Submitted by Po Cho on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:10pm.

''CNN's Blitzer Lets Debbie Wasserman Schultz Insist on Cain Disclosure, Forgets She Wanted Weiner Left Alone''

Mr. Graham,
Debbie is on very firm ground. This behaviour is a resume enhancement for ..liberals. 'progressives' & of course democrats seeking or holding office.

I still remember the congress/senate members crowding the steps of the Capital to support Bill Clinton(D) when many rape/sex alligations were brought up.

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Let's be clear:

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 9:07pm.

There is a huge distinction between not supporting impeachment and condoning sexual impropriety. There are quite a few here who apparently fail to see the difference and confuse one with the other.

Jer

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First of all, Jer - when you

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 9:56pm.

First of all, Jer - when you say 'lets be clear' - you're sounding an awful lot like Boy Barry - or even Eric Hold-Um - and that is NOT a compliment, my friend!!!

Secondly, is there any mention of 'impeachment' in this article??

aloha from a beautiful Saturday afternoon on an outer island in Hawaii,

Killa

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Killa, I re-read the article

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:07pm.

Killa, I re-read the article and did a word search for the word "impeach" and the first mention of the word was in Jer's comment.

I guess he is reading WAAAAAY to much into this article and comments.

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Scuba...I re-read my comment and rechecked its location

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:38pm.

and, sure enough, it was a direct response to the post of Pro Cho and not a comment on the blogged article itself.  And, in Pro Cho's post, he had alluded to a gathering in front of the Capitol by Democrats in support of Clinton after the rape/sexual harassment allegations. I assumed he was referring to this and this, in which case my comment was entirely appropriate.  If he had some other incident in mind, then he is free to correct me.

Jer

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Remember what they say when

Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:42pm.

Remember what they say when you "assume". :-)

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
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Scoob

Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:46pm.

Jer must have a back-up stash of eggs, because he's gone through so many here at NB.

- shy on vinyl

Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent

 
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Shy, you've had enough egg on your face

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:10pm.

to make omelettes for all the poor and hungry in NYC. Me?...not enough for a cat to lick off--assuming cats like eggs and assuming I liked cats enough to let one of those obnoxious animals get near my face.

Jer

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Licking and cats? Jer??

Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:20pm.

"Shy, you've had enough egg on your face to make omelettes for all the poor and hungry in NYC"

That would be your opinion. Lest we forget, the opinion of a liberal democrat -- as MD is famously known to remind our readers -- constantly pounded on for twisting in the wind like a pretzel to defend his usually-failed/flawed arguments or claims, of which we routinely smoke him out on.

- shy's grooves

Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent

 
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Slight correction...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:35pm.

make that: "...RARELY-failed/flawed arguments...of which we routinely ATTEMPT TO smoke him out on."

Your success rate? Well, "Mr. Shy and The 1 Percent" is about right.

Jer

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Ahhhhhhhhhh .........jeez,

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:41pm.

Ahhhhhhhhhh .........jeez, Jer - you're making too much out of this - it's Saturday, you don't have to act like a lawyer!!! There wasn't any 'impeach' in the article - end of story. No need to try and fabricate something beyond the stupid remarks that this washed-out cocker-spaniel blabbermouth said.

Whoops...............I did it again!!!! Sorry, Rick!!!

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For heaven's sake, killa...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:24am.

You've chimed in. Scuba chimed in. CX chimed in. MrShy chimed in.  And yet I'm the one making too much of it?

Read Pro Cho's comment about the rally at the Capitol.  Read my links about that rally.  Notice the linked articles are about the rally protesting IMPEACHMENT.

End of story.

Jer

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You know me,

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:30am.

You know me, Jer.............I'm a simpleton...........I take what I read at face value. I didn't see any Pro Cho or anything about impeachment - at least not in this little vignette............that's all I'm sayin', and that's probably all the other guys are sayin' too.

It's 6:30 here - can I have a black cherry/vodka drink yet???

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killa, Scuba, CX, and Shy---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:38am.

conservatives, all.

Jer, a liberal democrat.

Just goes to prove that it takes 4 conservatives sounding off to drown out the incessant, but hollow noise a liberal makes on a conservative site.  :o)

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Oh great...Dean shows up.

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:48am.

What took you so long?

Jer

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Jer, ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:58am.

There was a bit of down time involved while ascertaining that my chime in license fees were, indeed, currently paid up.

Sorry for the delay.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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killa...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:42am.

I just now notice it's Po Cho. My apologies to him or her for inserting the stray "r".  As I posted earlier, if he/she had another rally in mind, he/she can correct me.  But the only rally I know about was to protest impeachment, not to defend Clinton's sexual behavior as Po Cho appeared to be claiming.

Absolutely...have a drink.  And have a couple for me, too.  In fact, you guys are just about to drive me back to the bottle.  ;-)

Aloha.

Jer

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As we say over here,

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:45am.

As we say over here, Jer..............no worry, beef curry..............but I've got to shower first, since I'm still wearing my surf shorts.
And don't go diving into that bottle, and if you do, don't blame us!!!!!

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JER, JER, JER

Submitted by gfrrman on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:50am.

....ASSUMING you are a "lawyer", would YOU EVER ASSUME frkin ANYTHING??? NEVER, EVER hire Jer as an attorney, 'cause he's just gonna "ASSUME". What a completely STOOOPPID thing to reveal....can everyone say, "bankruptcy"? Just asinine!!! If Jer is a "lawyer" I am studying quantum physics. ROTFLMAO!!!! ....."lawyer".....lol...hahahahahahahahah

G

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Clinton wasn't impeached for sexual impropriety

Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:36pm.

He was impeached for obstruction of justice and lying under oath.

I don't understand why people continue to get that confused - unless it's because it's easier to dismiss the sex scandal stuff than it is to dismiss the President of the United States obstructing justice and lying under oath.

"But my advice to you can be summed up in two words: Thicker skin." - Jer
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Why is that addressed to me, CX...

Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:42pm.

I've never been confused about it or suggested otherwise.

Jer

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Jer,

Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 11:50pm.

I was responding to this comment from your post above:

"There is a huge distinction between not supporting impeachment and condoning sexual impropriety. There are quite a few here who apparently fail to see the difference and confuse one with the other."

It appeared to me from your statement that you were linking Clinton's impeachment with sexual impropriety.

"But my advice to you can be summed up in two words: Thicker skin." - Jer
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CX...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:16am.

No, Pro Cho appeared to be suggesting the reason for the Clinton rally at the Capitol was to defend/excuse/condone his behavior and to object to the criticism of that behavior.  My intent was to show the actual rationale for the rally was to protest against the impeachment process being utilized in response to Clinton's concealing/lying about sexual improprieties.

Jer

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Concealing, lying, and dealing with improprieties,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:31am.

sexual or otherwise.

That could be the Clinton's (plural), the Obama administration, or just your run-of-the-mill liberal Democrat politician.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Well, MD, as you already know

Submitted by ant on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 2:47am.

According to the narrative and guilty charges the left has hung on Cain, which are reminiscent of Clinton, and supposedly make Cain 'un-electable'. Clinton was, by their own standards, and based on his sexual trespasses alone, wholly inadequate to be President, as they should be saying about Obama (minus sexual incongruity, that's one nice thing I can say about him). But I don't think the left are capable of seeing their own double standards.

That's my 'chime in',Jer. Fifth chimes a charm. ...say that five times fast.

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ant..

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 5:05pm.

You were actually the sixth. But who's counting. :-)

Jer

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Well, Jer,

Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:32am.

I re-read both articles you linked and only one of them referenced Clinton's lying - and that was in the last sentence of the article.

I still maintain that the majority of people think that Clinton was impeached because of his sexual improprieties and I believe that was shown in the two articles you referenced.

Inasmuch as I am a diurnal being, I am going to sleep. We can hash this out later. Good night!

 

"But my advice to you can be summed up in two words: Thicker skin." - Jer
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Later, CX...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:49am.

Sleep well.

Jer

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What does 'diurnal' mean???

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:56am.

What does 'diurnal' mean??? Is it a bathroom term??? Is it a 'guy' thing???

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I think it means "naturally cantankerous", killa...

Submitted by Jer on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:04am.

And can cause extreme fatigue.

Jer

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You mean like the Vet???

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:06am.

You mean like the Vet??? Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

JUST JOKING, VET...................JUST JOKING!!!!!!

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Killa

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:14pm.

was this you....... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2060243/Surfer-ride...

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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I saw

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:19pm.

I saw that.............McNamara is from the north shore of Oahu, but I know people who know him. I know guys around here that ride these huge outer-reef waves. Laird Hamilton grew up over here - I've known him since he was a rascally little kid. Now he's a rich rascally big kid!!!

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Debbie WS, sex harassment victim?

Submitted by Tim Graham on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:22pm.

Back on July 21, Democratic congresswomen accused Allen West of sexual harassment for insisting DWS was no lady....

Representative GWEN MOORE (Democrat, Wisconsin): Just once again we have been told that in order to be a lady that we need to just stay in our places.

Representative JACKIE SPEIER (Democrat, California): In any other employment environment, he would be subject to a sexual harassment claim for creating a hostile work environment.

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The Pilot Fish Strikes Again!

Submitted by Annie Ashe Fields on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:39pm.

When Princess Nancy was Speaker, for four years, damned near every time there was a camera, there was 'lil Debbie floating in tandem with the mothership, just behind her, taking it all in, and sucking up.

I dubbed her "the pilot fish."

Guess "Princess" & the "Pilot Fish" nicknames make me a bad person, huh?

Heh heh heh ;)

www.saltusa.com
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I think the fish that attach

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 4:42pm.

I think the fish that attach themselves to sharks are called 'ramoras'.................but Ms. Botox reminds me more of a rattlesnake.

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Either way...

Submitted by Annie Ashe Fields on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:11pm.

...we're still in parasite neighborhood, aren't we?

You know, where it lives off the host? Taking. Not ADDING to the health of the host...

Kinda like the (portion* of the) 51% who pay ZERO income taxes, of whom 30% actually PROFIT from the tax code, who are the OVERWHELMING majority of Dem voters P*SSED OFF the teat ain't big enough...

But then I'm mixing organisms, "teat" vs "host" and that would reveal me to be an anti-science knuckle-dragging conservative ;)

*I take pains to note "portion" of the 51% who pay zero income taxes, because contrary to propaganda, I am HAPPY to help my countrymen who are less fortunate - PROVIDED I AM NOT VILLIFIED FOR IT. Not ALL of that 1/2 of the country are hateful, spiteful, greedy Socialists... It just seems that way.

www.saltusa.com
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OK Annie, my animated

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:00pm.

OK Annie, my animated girlie!!! We need to have a heart-to-heart!!! The Killa needs to settle you down a little bit!!! You didn't find any pot yet??? Did your batteries die prematurely?? (That could be called a 'premature battery malfunction'!!!) You sure you can't have a glass of wine??? I'm beginning to worry about you!!!

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Perhaps

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:02pm.

Killa you can give her your recipe for your famous vodka drink.

:)

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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These accusations are nothing but an Axelstick smear job

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:12pm.

If I was the Hermanator, I would say nothing more and get on with it.

-Dave

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves - Edward R. Murrow
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Anne

Submitted by grammajane on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:47pm.

Coulters article on Axelrod is worth a read!! He is a very sick individual

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Axelface is the kind of guy

Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:02pm.

Axelface is the kind of guy that you can just look at and listen to and KNOW that he's a sick man, and in a very dark and insidious way.............and I think he's proven it.

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Yeah, and he's fugly, too

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:18pm.

-Dave

A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves - Edward R. Murrow
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L'il Debs (of the Wasserman crime family) is consistent.

Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:32pm.

She is consistently wrong, consistently producing quotable and repeatable material for Republican video campaign ads and consistently irritating. There are some things about consistency you don't want - and she's got them all.

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She is

Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 7:40pm.

the gift that keeps on giving.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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Her

Submitted by grammajane on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:43pm.

hair style kinda says it all, dates back to the 60's along with her political agenda. If is is a Conservative, bash the hel out of him/her. If is is a lib, treat it like it never happened.

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Surprised?

Submitted by Jake6 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:46pm.

Wolfie does a hit jobs on Conservatives for a living. How can anyone be surprised when he gives Debbie Delusional free rein. If he were to ask serious questions he would be unemployed.

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Debbie

Submitted by kinijane on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 5:50pm.

I don't know what planet she lives on, she can't possibly believe the crap that
comes out of her mouth. I have to wonder what kind of salary shes getting.

kinijane
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Just what does she believe

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 6:05pm.

Just what does she believe Cain has not disclosed. She believes he is guilty because her boy the Wienerman was. She is a typical leftist idiot useful tool.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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No doubt Blitzed. . .

Submitted by rickbren on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 6:30pm.

. . .talked with Blabbermouth-Shultz prior to the show and they agreed not to bring up Weiner's wiener. . .

Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment.
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Oh, boo-hoo

Submitted by ant on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 8:53pm.

Pelosi was called 'princess'. She should just gracefully accept that one, because the adjectives I have for Pelosi and the lap-dog poodle here are nowhere near as nice.

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LOL

Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 9:06pm.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=94379

Motor City Madman said it best - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkEbqgbSqs8
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Rush's All-Time Best Nickname

Submitted by NC Boy on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:04pm.

Debbie Blabbermouth-Schulz.

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Disclose What? Wassernan Schultz has a better Idea than Cain

Submitted by Avitar on Sat, 11/12/2011 - 10:09pm.

The one thing that all of the implications of Sexual Harrasment have is Chicago.
If she hasn't been briefed in already I suggest that she calls the Mayors office and gets the details of the scandal for the next two months.

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Contrivances of the Left

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:07am.

Sounds like Debbie Downer is being made to "feel uncomfortable". Whiner.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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How sordid...

Submitted by big.league.slider on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 1:24am.

Think about how sordid this whole Cain affair is. Obama's political operatives are using claims of sexual harassment by white women against a southern black man. This is straight out of the 1930's.

Did you ever think we'd see this type of racism in the 21st century? And from a political party that claims the moral high ground with regards to race?

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Debbie S

Submitted by NewLife56 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 9:38am.

If I were on an Island with her, and no chance of rescue EVER, I would use her as Shark Bait and sleep well every night, I see her picture and it makes me want to vomit.

NewLife56
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Debbie S

Submitted by NewLife56 on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 12:32pm.

This woman has NOTHING to fear, not even a Blind man would do anything sexually to Debbie, in words are ever touching her

NewLife56
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 2:06pm.

I seriously doubt she has ever touched the Weiner....

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This woman (notice I did not

Submitted by maquignon on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 2:09pm.

This woman (notice I did not say lady) is the epitome of hypocrisy, just like most of the democrats. What is the lowest form of life on earth? A democrat!!!!

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DWS

Submitted by Jerry Mack on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 2:38pm.

DWS reminds me of a long haired uglier Howard Dean. YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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halloween

Submitted by D'saredumbpeople on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 3:53pm.

i thought halloween was over till i saw that witch debbie.man she's hard to look at in the morning......imagine her old man..

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Larry Sinclair

Submitted by greatj on Sun, 11/13/2011 - 8:38pm.

ASK OBAMA AND THE MEDIA ABOUT LARRY SINCLAIR?????????????????????

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Debbie Wethead

Submitted by ReaganRuled on Mon, 11/14/2011 - 12:53am.

Debbie Wethead Wasserman-Sergeant Schultz, aka "Dippity Do," is probably going to have to run the race of her New Yeccch carpetbagger life next year, as Republican challenger Karen Harrington who pulled nearly 40% of the vote in the 3:1 Dim-o-RAT district in 2010 plans to challenge her again in 2012. It seems even that the shrieking Liberals in Palm Beach "I Can't Punch A Ballot" County have had far too much of their shrieking Liberal congresscritter! Oh my ... How hilarious that the ChairtokenJoowoman of the DNC will find herself in a huge fight while she's shilling for The One next year. ((giggles))

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