GOP Debate Questioner Karen Tumulty Bashed Santorum, Gingrich; Praised Gore, Clintons
Joining PBS host Charlie Rose as a questioner tonight at the Washington Post debate is Post reporter Karen Tumulty, who wrote for Time magazine for quite a while. On the Post website, she promised "No gimmicks, no gotchas, just a discussion that is as serious as the issues that Americans are dealing with on a daily basis."
But Tumulty has a history of uncorking some liberal hosannas, hailing Obama's "conspicuous candor" and lauding Al Gore's documentary as the work of "a laptop-wielding ninja whose PowerPoint could rescue the planet from the forces of greed and indifference." But Newt Gingrich was the "pompous thug of late-night cable." Last December, Tumulty was clearly in a "gotcha" mode with former Sen. Rick Santorum, describing him as a "notorious" fire-breather on social issues:
Santorum was notorious for his moral pronouncements. He contended, for instance, that Boston's liberal culture was partly to blame for the sex-abuse scandal in the Catholic Church there, and suggested that lifting antiquated state sodomy laws would sanction bestiality -- or as he put it, "man on dog."
Santorum still breathes fire. In his evolving stump speech, he frames the prospect of Obama's reelection in near-apocalyptic terms: "Democracy and freedom will disappear." His agenda consists of stopping pretty much everything that has been set in motion in the past two years, starting with the overhaul of the nation's health-care system.
Then there are these biased lowlights from our Notable Quotables:
Nope, No Partisanship Here
"Whereas other candidates like to throw red meat before their audiences, [Senator Barack] Obama is developing a penchant for hurling cold water at them....Conspicuous candor has been part of Obama’s campaign since his announcement tour in February."
— Time’s Karen Tumulty in an article on Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, June 11, 2007 issue.
Al Gore, Planet-Saving Superhero
"Rather than retire...Gore has stayed in the game by continuing to fight for the environment....The lecture on global warming that he has been giving for decades...has been turned into the indie documentary An Inconvenient Truth. The movie got raves at the Sundance Film Festival....In Los Angeles theaters, the trailers have been getting ovations.... 2008 is still a long way away. And in the meantime, Gore has decided, there’s a planet to save."
— Time’s Karen Tumulty profiling former Vice President Al Gore, whom the magazine chose as one of the "Time 100: The People Who Shape Our World," May 8, 2006 issue.
[She also wrote: "Then again, Gore's new movie has something of a mutant-action-hero plotline of its own. It's the tale of a scorned, washed-up politician transformed into a laptop-wielding ninja whose PowerPoint could rescue the planet from the forces of greed and indifference." In that year, she also touted the Clintons as "the most fascinating tango act in politics."]
No Arms or Legs for Poor People
Bob Schieffer: “I was just in California where they’re telling me that not only are they facing these huge deficits, but for every five jobs that are lost in America, one of those jobs is in California. The governor out there – his approval rating is down to 20 percent. We’re seeing other governors with these low approval ratings. Is that because the states are just so starved for money?”
Time’s Karen Tumulty: “That’s right. And while these arguments we’re having here in Washington over tax cuts may look sort of abstract to most people in America, it is not abstract when your kid’s teacher gets laid off....Libraries are closing, teachers are getting laid off. Gray Davis is in the position of having to decide whether he should deny prosthetic limbs to poor people.”
– Exchange on CBS’s Face the Nation, May 11, 2003. According to the Cato Institute, California’s state spending grew from 39.5 billion in fiscal year 1994 to 78.1 billion in fiscal year 2001, an increase of 98 percent.
Linking Bush with Mass Murderer
“Gun-rights advocates have been emboldened by an administration that is sympathetic to their cause. The closeness was underscored by the fact that the military-style gun used in the sniper attacks – named, unfortunately for the White House, Bushmaster XM15 – was manufactured by a company owned by Richard Dyke, a Bush fundraiser.”
– Time’s Karen Tumulty and Viveca Novak, November 4, 2002 issue.
Newt, the Thuggish Grenade Thrower
"Under pressure he reverted to the pompous thug of late-night cable, the backbencher lobbing grenades on C-SPAN about sick Democrats who were enemies of normal Americans....[Voters have] learned how far he is willing to go to achieve his larger goals: shut the government down to make a point with the President; invite lobbyists not just to lobby, but to draft the laws themselves; and give a huge tax break to his party's allies at the expense of services for the poor, with the explanation that this is what it takes to keep his Republican coalition together."
-- Time Senior Editor Nancy Gibbs and Washington reporter Karen Tumulty, December 25, 1995/January 1, 1996 Man of the Year cover story on House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
PS: Tumulty called MRC in 2003 to complain that her "denying prosethetic limbs" remarks were taken out of context. Here's how Brent Bozell laid out our double-checking at the time:
As for denying arms and legs to the poor, Tumulty was even harsher in her own magazine than she was on TV: "Governors are not just raising taxes but also releasing prisoners and shutting down libraries. Among options that Davis has had to consider: denying prosthetics to amputees who can't afford them and eliminating adult diapers for prostate-cancer patients."
Tumulty’s source for these claims, most likely, is a Los Angeles Times report on May 4, in which reporter Gregg Jones gave readers an inside-the-room account of how Gov. Davis deliberated with staff about whether to propose cutting Medi-Cal subsidies (the state version of Medicaid) for prosthetic limbs and adult diapers. But Tumulty doesn’t ask the obvious question: just how politically crass is it to detail for reporters how Davis might have to propose cutting prosthetic-limb subsidies?
What was called for was an expose on the Democrats and their shameless propensity to threaten dire-sounding phony spending cuts so voters will support raising taxes. The MRC’s judges responded because quotes like these falsely signal to voters that there is no budgetary fat to be found and eliminated. There is only this false choice: you favor tax hikes, or you favor prostate-cancer patients wetting themselves.
Tumulty says her quotation is "out of context," but it’s national media budget reporting that’s too often out of context. The liberal mindset looks for scary specifics, but it has no big picture. For example, the Cato Institute found that California’s state spending grew from $39.5 billion in fiscal year 1994 to $78.1 billion in fiscal year 2001, a 98 percent increase. That ought to leave money for prosthetics for the poor. Either Tumulty was unaware of that fact – in which case she is unqualified to cover this issue – or she ignored it, and ought to be disqualified from covering the issue.
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I said it in the Charlie Rose
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 3:01pm.
I said it in the Charlie Rose thread, and I'll say it again:
Republicans never, never learn.
Always Charlie Brown to the liberals' Lucy.
I think all four of them
Submitted by goldwater89 on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 3:07pm.
I think all four of them deserved to be bashed!
As should all liberal---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 5:12pm.
twits, as well.
MD
Words and phrases we will hear tonight.
Submitted by NeoKong on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 3:12pm.
"niggerhead" "tax cuts for the rich" "On the sidelines" "Failed policies...."
"Gardasil" "Dream act" "insensitive to blacks" "let people die" "the richest one percent" "millionaires and billionaires"
I expect them to come out of the gate trying to portray Herman Cain as a traitor to his color. He is the last person they want to run against Obama. If they can knock him out of the race they can go right back to their race baiting strategy and even use the fact Cain wasn't nominated as an example.
They will definitely bring up niggerhead and demand to know under oath when that rock was painted. They will also put Perry on the defensive about his immigration policies because they know it hurts him.
They want Romney to win and they will hold their fire on him so he can get nominated.
Then they would unveil their destroy Romney strategy.
NeoKong,Ditto an all attack on Cain.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 6:47pm.
I hope the candidates keep, rephrasing the questions as done by Newt and Cain.
You Didn't Build That.
I'll be passing on this
Submitted by TerryWest on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 3:37pm.
I'll be passing on this predictable side show
Liberal Debate Moderators?
Submitted by Bourbeau on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 3:44pm.
Let me see if I get this straight. The Republican candidates sign-on to participate in debates sponsored by NBC, CBS, NPR, etc. and Newsbusters is complaining about the moderators liberal bias? This story is run for every debate, no matter the sponsor. If the Republicans are stupid enough to allow themselves to be used in this manner, so bet it. If they can't find better sponsors then the networks, too bad. If they can't demand more balanced moderators, too bad. If they continue to allow themselves to be subject to the same petty tricks played by these liberal mouthpieces, then too bad. My recollection is that the Fox moderators weren't all that great either and were just as hell bent at trying to 'create' a gaffe as anyone else. This is becoming a very distracting forum for serious thinkers; debates shouldn't be media shows, and they're now crossing over into entertainment. If that's the best we can do, as a country, in pruning down the finalists, so be it.
if you can't
Submitted by jimtrees on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 9:34pm.
Ican't trust these guys enough on where to have a debate and getting sucked into these gaffes. how can i trust them to make better choices as the prez.
She has not stopped fighting...
Submitted by JamesPhilip on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 4:21pm.
Sarah Palin - Defending the Republic - http://tinyurl.com/6bdpfvz
And you have not stopped
Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 5:03pm.
And you have not stopped spamming.
Don't you have anything else to do, or another single thought in your head?
Enough already
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 5:09pm.
She's not running. She's actually not even important.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
Agree about the spamming, but I
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 5:19pm.
don't think Sarah Palin should be consigned to the ash heap of history just yet.
She is a more than decent conservative voice, even though many 'righteous' conservatives have relegated her to the wilderness, as it were.
MD
This is why I don't give the RNC any money
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 5:13pm.
Dems flat out boycotted Fox News' debate. No problem.
Republicans just let the networks dictate the debates, the format, the questions, everything. Now they've got Christie running interference for Romney. One RINO trying to cover another RINO's butt.
I contributed to Herman Cain, but the RNC won't ever see a dime of my money until they grow a pair and stop treating the base like a red headed step child.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
Why? Why? Why?
Submitted by Caringwhiteguy on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 5:29pm.
Why do these candidates and their handlers continue to let this kind of crap happen? Do they really think Charlie Rose will like them any better after tonight? Will they all be glued to Morning Joe to see how that punk's little pals react to their "performances"?
Then again, who would you rather take one from - - - Charlie Rose, looking you in the eye . . . . or Chris Wallace stabbing you in the back?
Liberals Make Me Sick, Really
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Tue, 10/11/2011 - 6:17pm.
I don't think I am going to be able to watch the debate tonight. I'm already beginning to feel a wave of nausea come over me.
Well...on second thought, maybe I'll watch just to see Cain and Gingrich hammer the panelists. Maybe the others will talk back too.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Cain took some caining from Bachmann and Paul
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 10/12/2011 - 1:19am.
Herman Cain while guest hosting on the Neil Boortz radion show said :
"... I don't know why people think we're going to learn this great amount of information by auditing the Federal Reserve.... There's no hidden secrets going on in the Federal Reserve to my knowledge. And I tell people, we've got 12 Federal Reserve Banks. Find out which district you are in, call them up and go from there. We don't need to waste money with another commission or an audit. That is not necessary because folks, we've got a lot of other problems we've got to worry about. "
SOURCE>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk&feature=player_embedded
Michele on Mr.Cain's 999 plan
"One thing I would say is, when you take the 999 plan and you turn it upside down, I think the devil is in the details." M. Bachmann
Bachmann, the Minnosota congresswoman intimated that Mr.Cain's 999 plan may be the sign of the anti-Christ; worse that Cain's plan is a tax plan, not a jobs plan, and dangerous because the national sales tax gives Congress "another pipeline of a revenue stream" and is a step toward a value-added tax.
SOURCE>>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/11/gop-presidential-candidates-a...
Paul said "someone at this table" doesn't think that an audit of the Fed is not important and that we won't learn anything new.
In view of the partial discovery that the Fed had given out trillions to special interests and even given billions to foreign banks, I would have to agree that congress needs to look deeper into the Fed as to where and to whom these Trillions are going. This knowledge would not have been made public had not Paul gotten his audit the Fed bill passed. All this Federal Reserve transfer of wealth would still be a "secret."
Now according to Mr.Cain's remarks on the Neil Boortz show the people don't need to concern themselves with audits of the private money cartel.
lrgon ...Drill now, refine now, loan now,build now..
Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 10/12/2011 - 2:27am.
I have NO problem with this: No need to audit the federal reserve
Go N' hose your illusioni on some talk radio at 3 am. A total yawner, there budster.
You Didn't Build That.
I would love to see the free market deregulated but ....
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 10/12/2011 - 11:38am.
my post was about Mr. Cain on a radio program when he was being very critical of those calling for an audit of the Fed.
"Drill now, refine now...." etc.
I don't disagree that we must drill and refine. For example why are fussing with the pros and cons of the job-creating Canadian keystoneXL pipeline when millions are out of work? Yes, by all means drill now.
Politicians like to talk and talk but when push comes to shove they don't produce. Is there anything new here? Carter created the Dept of Energy to ween America off foreign sources (so he claimed) but instead of moving us toward energy independence the DOE has for decades been obstructing energy producers.
specifically: Abolish the DOE; open up the Alaska (ANWR) oil fields and begin construction of the Canadian Keystone pipeline:>>>>
http://thenewamerican.com/tech-mainmenu-30/energy/9300-approving-the-key...
I would love to see the free market deregulated but ....
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 10/12/2011 - 11:40am.
my post was about Mr. Cain on a radio program when he was being very critical of those calling for an audit of the Fed.
"Drill now, refine now...." etc.
I don't disagree that we must drill and refine. For example why are fussing with the pros and cons of the job-creating Canadian keystoneXL pipeline when millions are out of work? Yes, by all means drill now.
Politicians like to talk and talk but when push comes to shove they don't produce. Is there anything new here? Carter created the Dept of Energy to ween America off foreign sources (so he claimed) but instead of moving us toward energy independence the DOE has for decades been obstructing energy producers.
specifically: Abolish the DOE; open up the Alaska (ANWR) oil fields and begin construction of the Canadian Keystone pipeline:>>>>
http://thenewamerican.com/tech-mainmenu-30/energy/9300-approving-the-key...
I would love to see the free market deregulated but ....
Submitted by lrgon on Wed, 10/12/2011 - 11:41am.
my post was about Mr. Cain on a radio program when he was being very critical of those calling for an audit of the Fed.
"Drill now, refine now...." etc.
I don't disagree that we must drill and refine. For example why are we fussing with the pros and cons of the job-creating Canadian keystoneXL pipeline when millions are out of work? Yes, by all means drill now.
Politicians like to talk and talk but when push comes to shove they don't produce. Is there anything new here? Carter created the Dept of Energy to ween America off foreign sources (so he claimed) but instead of moving us toward energy independence the DOE has for decades been obstructing energy producers.
specifically: Abolish the DOE; open up the Alaska (ANWR) oil fields and begin construction of the Canadian Keystone pipeline:>>>>
http://thenewamerican.com/tech-mainmenu-30/energy/9300-approving-the-key...
I would love to see one conspirocrank loon...
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 10/13/2011 - 11:48am.
...that could actually manage to take the 4 minutes it takes to master a mouse actually take a stab at that before they post their stupidity on the intertubes.
You go crank. Just keep clicking until the page disappears. That is how it works.