NBC 'Playboy Club' Star Lashes Out at Mormons, Catholics on Twitter
NBC’s series The Playboy Club remains in search of an audience, so some stars are lashing out on Twitter at the Parents Television Council, who’s calling for the show to be cancelled, since it promotes one of the world’s leading pornography brands.
David Krumholtz – who many might remember from CBS’s “Numb3rs”– attacked the PTC on Twitter for “randomly” choosing the Playboy show, but eventually turned to attacking Mormons and Catholics for having “a long history of degrading women.” When someone asked how Catholics currently degrade women, he snapped back “My bad. I should have said little children instead of women.”
Krumholtz began by complaining to the Twitter account @thePTC that they should be attacking a different show on NBC (not exactly a player on Team Peacock, is he?):
It is quite an indictment of your organization that you are so rabidly attempting to have The Playboy Club cancelled, while many...
other shows on primetime network TV are much more violent and degrading to women. Case in point, last week's premiere of "Prime...
Suspect" on NBC featured the lead actress Maria Bello being brutally beaten by a man, to the point where her face was totally...
bloodied and cut open, receiving several vicious punches to the head, and you have not said a SINGLE WORD about it. I guess...
your organization picks and chooses what to protest based on pressure from lobbying groups that fund your efforts. Hypocrites.
When my friend Dan Isett, who represents the PTC in Washington, replied by tweeting that “not everything we talk about makes” The Hollywood Reporter, Krumholtz tweeted back: "But you need to start doing a better job at being a " watch dog group" if you want hollywood to take you seriously. not to mention mormon and catholic based family programming. 2 faiths that have a long history of degrading women."
When Isett re-tweeted that with a "What?" Krumholtz added: “denial ain't just a river in Egypt. Organization would be better served to clean up the reputation of these faiths.” Then @jaycaruso responded with the question “Sorry but how is the Catholic faith currently degrading women?,” Krumholtz wrote “my bad. I should have said little children instead of women.”
For a guy who played a math whiz on TV, all Krumholtz could conclude with was “Point being that in a realm of rabidly biased subjective discussion, anything and everything can be criticized...and demonized. Opinions are like a--holes, Everyone's got 'em.”
Update: After this blog was posted, Krumholtz returned to form, asking if "the veritable epidemic of sexual abuse of children by catholic priests is also excusable??" Epidemic?
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I don't blame them for fighting back Tim
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 3:59pm.
The PTC is not just complaining about the show. They are trying to get it cancelled
This is how they make money and put food on the table. Complain about a show till your hearts content, but why try to take away something others might enjoy.
It's about power and control
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 4:08pm.
Opponents decided long ago that this show shouldn't air and they're doing their best to make sure you can't enjoy something something they object to. You know, freedom and all. In this case it seems a lot of energy has been wasted since it looks like the show will be cancelled before it hits 10 episodes.
Thank you Ted
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 4:37pm.
I guess in your business you would know
What business is that?
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 4:55pm.
Pointing out hypocrisy in accusations? It doesn't take a genius to recognize the appearance of a fully clothed Chaz Bono has people up in arms, but no one's calling to have DWTS taken off the air (nor an FCC fine) because Nancy Grace can't keep her nipples covered for a 3 minute dance segment.
Dont you work in Hollywood?
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 5:00pm.
Dont you work in Hollywood?
I don't think Hollywood is a real place
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 5:20pm.
Or Hollywood, Florida? That's a real place.
Nice dodge Ted
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 5:43pm.
.
Is there currently a t.v. show on promoting the Catholic
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:25pm.
religion? Because otherwise the argument is b.s.
Would you be o.k. with a show portraying black youth as violent and drug abusing? Because we know we won't see that.
The First Amendment give the PTC the right to complain, much as you and Shawn don't like it.
Complain all you'd like
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:50pm.
Just don't tell the rest of us we can't watch something. Oh, you're going to do that anyway? Yeah, that's freedom.
How are they preventing you from watching anything?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:52pm.
They aren't shutting down production or gathering in the streets preventing the workers from getting to the studio? They are expressing their opinions that the show shouldn't be aired. Again, their opinions.
why not?
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:57pm.
Why shouldn't the show be aired? Is there nudity? Is there excessive cursing? Or is it simply the Playboy brand that's causing the commotion?
And what about Nancy Grace's nipple slip? DWTS has already shown more private parts than NBC will run all season.
Another lying full of crap libtard
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:04pm.
Orangeman, where has anyone suggested you cant watch what you want? It's you libtards who want to raid our fridge, check our toilets, build our washing machines, cars, and homes.
So while were staying out of your bedroom, maybe you could keep your pants on long enough to close the damn door you freakin putz!
What a joke
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:10pm.
Yeah no one's saying we can't watch what we want. Well, except the PTC.
http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/news/release/2011/0927.asp
MO
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:55pm.
When the PTC has any power to actually DO anything, it will become an issue. Do you get this worked up when the AMA comes out with a warning and tells you not to smoke? Or not to use so much salt? Big difference between a government agency not allowing you do to something and a group protesting something.
I know I hate it when
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 9:01pm.
........when people tell me not to smoke and what to eat and what to wear.
I don't listen to the AMA or the PTC
Submitted by Mister Orange on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:22am.
The difference you speak of is a warning versus a demand. AMA says smoking and sodium are unhealthy and we should cease consumption. They're not demanding anyone stops smoking. On the other hand, PTC is demanding NBC's immediate removal of the Play Club.
PTC can't force NBC to remove
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 6:59pm.
PTC can't force NBC to remove its programs. If you read their press release it says they are "calling" for the show to be cancelled, not "demanding" as you say. Don't they have the right to call for a show to be cancelled and to boycott its advertisers?
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonNo. That right has been revoked.
Submitted by Mister Orange on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 7:04pm.
They don't have the right to tell me I can't watch a show that promotes pornography that contains no pornography, which is just what their anti-pornography agenda has put forth.
MO
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 7:07pm.
So...they don't have the right to express their opinion because you disagree with it? Yep, you're a liberal.
What do you think?
Submitted by Mister Orange on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 7:16pm.
Should the show be removed because an organization feels that selling pornography in primetime, while not actually showing anything pornographic, is unacceptable for the public airwaves?
MO
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 7:26pm.
I think the PTC has the right to express their views. It doesn't matter if I agree with them or not. That is the point.
That's right, freedom is a
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 8:55pm.
That's right, freedom is a two way street. And freedom doesn't mean free from consequences. I am free to be a nuisance but people are also free to avoid me, marginalize me, etc.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonFreedom is not in question here
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:02pm.
People also have the freedom to protest military funerals because they believe God hates fags
I just do not get why liberals and conservatives alike have to tell others not to watch or eat something just because they oppose it. Live your own life to the fullest and let others do the same.
I think our Gov should quit subsidizing
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:04pm.
Networks like nbc, in turn I think the networks should quit with the pro-bono advertising campaigns for candidates. I think if you want your agenda to have a voice, let the FREE MARKET decide it!
Opps, what happened? MLB tonight, Ghost Busters, Dance Moms, and Restaurant impossible, all beat libtard favorites like Daily show and Letterman?
They do have the right Ted
Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 8:45pm.
I don't agree with them and I love the fact the PTC has hardly any clout, but they do have the right to their opinion, just like everyone involved with this show has a right to fight back.
Exactly. In a free society
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 8:59pm.
Exactly. In a free society we deal with these situations by debating it and then voting with our feet and our dollars. No forceful government laws necessary.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonI meant here
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:20pm.
And you know it. Fact is, tv could not get smutty enough for you dimwits. Never mind the rest of us are trying to raise law abiding decent kids.
No matter what kind of criminals come out of our youths, you degenerates will simply blame the parents. Even though both have to work, to support those who's lives have already come apart at the seams.
Boudin
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:22pm.
Isn't all that smut what HBO and the other pay channels are for? So it doesn't come uninvited into our homes? You have a point, it's some whackos trying to make everyone as degenerate as they are in order to make themselves feel better about their own sorry lives.
Yep, instead of the Fed helping parents
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:10pm.
They gave us a Dept of Ed that is making it even harder for your kids to get a grip, or the parents to handle them. Instead of reading writing and arithmetic we are teaching gay rights Black history and welfare bureaucracy.
Boudin
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:20pm.
The PTC is behaving lIke the KoS libs here. They are not just complaining, they are trying to intimidate advertisors much like the libs did with Glenn Beck.
Captain Compromise the moralphobe
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:32pm.
Captain Compromise the moralphobe strikes again.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Good evening Captain Constipation
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:50pm.
Do you disagree with what i said? If so, why? As much as I am enamored with your clever dialogue, it would be nice for once to see you actually back up your point :-)
The point is shawn
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 9:33pm.
You support everything immoral and come out against any moral absolute. Is that simple enough for you? All you have to do to verify this is to read your own posts.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Hi cocodrie
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 9:45pm.
I actually speak out against the government forcing us to do anything. Also "everything" immoral is not true. For example I don't defend abortion which you accused me of in the past, but don't let facts get in the way
shawn
Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 9:47pm.
you defend abortion in certain circumstances. It is infanticide under any circumstances.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Only when asked
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:13pm.
Do I give my opinion on abortion. I hardly ever post on a abortion thread which you implied I do
If they could halt production legally
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:58pm.
They would do so. Sorry taking away something from somebody else because you don't agree with it is silly.
Radical1979
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:12pm.
There is one that I know of: Blue Bloods.
The program shows a strong knit Catholic family who have Sunday dinner together, show characters praying, including the Sign of the Cross, and involve clergy in positive roles. The show even had an episode where a favorite priest of the family was going to be relocated because a woman accused the priest of hanky panky. A discussion of atoning for past wrongs of the Church versus standing up for an innocent priest ensued.
Blue Bloods is not a children's show, and some of the guest actors and production are not that polished, but it does celebrate family and religion in the characters' lives, offering positive male and female role models.
*groan*
Submitted by kata on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 5:59pm.
Isn't that twitter abuse or something?
Blu-Ray dvd player - $40
Netflix subscription - $15
Never having to see another crappy television program again...
Priceless.
K
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 6:09pm.
The only problem with your proposal is missing SOME current shows as they air. Oh, and football. Can't watch every football game without DirecTV, and David Nelson is going to have such a big year I don't want to miss it.
And it's soooooooo easy to skip over Maher.
three yrs catv free
Submitted by kata on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 6:15pm.
and I haven't keeled over yet. HS Football is so much more fun, anyway.
Media Streamers
Submitted by stratman on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:37pm.
I haven't had cable TV in 13 years. I have relied on the library for free movies and the internet where you can watch TV shows. Now there are Media Streamers that use the internet to bring movies, TV shows and all kinds of programing to your TV / Home Theater.
I bought a Roku 2 XS recently and it has been fantastic so far. Since I already have Amazon Prime for the 2 day shipping, I can watch movies and TV shows offered via Amazon. Am now trying out a month of free Hulu Plus ($8/month), which has lots of TV shows and movies as well. There is a month long free trial of Netflix ($8/month) I'll try next. So much other free stuff to explore it gets a tad overwhelming at first. There is enough content that I may not need to pay another penny after purchasing the Roku (internet connection and electricity excluded!)
You can get NFL Sunday Ticket via a Sony Play Station 3 along with a lot of other streaming content.
More info on various media streamers here. Since I don't play games, the Roku and Western Digital TV Live or WD Live Plus were my top choices. Since the Roku streams Amazon Prime Videos it was my choice. If I wanted to stream local network content (video and audio from a harddrive attached to my home's network) the WDTV Live Plus or TV Live would the better choice.
And you can still enjoy peace and quiet and a good book! :-)
thanks stratman!
Submitted by kata on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:50pm.
The device is tempting but we have no tv to attach it to. Maybe after the kids are done with college. LOL.
I had no idea sports were so available streaming. I might have to send this information on to my sports addict brother in law who really wants to dump cable. We use Hulu too. Just not the plus - if Netflix (*sigh* Quickster) becomes a problem we might look into it.. We've picked up a movie rental or two from Amazon too.
I told myself I'd never own one but now I tote my Kindle around everywhere I go. I love to read!
kata
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:57pm.
Kindle, the best friend to those of us with aging eyes!
Kata
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 1:20am.
Hulu is an odd beast. There are short commercials during the TV shows I've watched so far. Also, I've read that somethings are only available on either computer only or media streamer only. Overall, great programming selection, including new TV shows. I watched one show that had yet to be on TV. I'll enjoy Hulu during my free month trial.
I like having entire series seasons that I can watch at my leisure. Never know when I'll want to watch Star Trek for the 139th time. (LOL)
Besides the default "channels" offered on these streamers, much gold is to be mined from adding "private channels" like the free assortment packaged in Nowhere TV if you use a Roku. Yes, a lot of fool's gold, but still enough buried treasure to keep you busy, and it's free. Just like the internet having anything you can think of, these channels are following suit. I saw a channel devoted to vibraphone enthusiasts. Go figure!
Using a combination of Over The Air broadcast reception (your local channels) and one of these media streamers with a subscription to Netflix, Hulu Plus, and/or Amazon Prime, you could scrap cable and spend significanlty less money per month without sacrificing much.
Consider dumping your telephone company land line and start using an Ooma, keeping you home phone number, or just use your cell phone and the savings multiply. Your biggest expense will then be for internet service.
There is nothing wrong with complaining about content
Submitted by shawn. on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 6:45pm.
Or cutting off service in protest. It's folks that emulate liberals by wanting to force their opinions on us that I dislike. .
Just gave away the game again, Deddy
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 12:02am.
With that comment.
You DO know where Nelson went to college, don't you?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Florida State
Submitted by Mister Orange on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:29am.
Seminoles. But I've forgiven him.
Amen, kata Amen; I just did
Submitted by bertkillian on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 11:52pm.
Amen, kata Amen; I just did that! Totally right on.
It's funny how the JEWISH genius didn't...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:10pm.
...single out how the muslims degrade women. Funny how he hasn't spoken out against "honor killings" of women in that "religion of peace." Funny how the genius has no muhammad cartoon t-shirts.
It's funny that he can say, “Point being that in a realm of rabidly biased subjective discussion, anything and everything can be criticized...and demonized. Opinions are like a--holes, Everyone's got 'em.”
Let's have a look-see at the muslim criticize and demonize Jews. The idiot didn't even complete the barb... "Everyone's got ONE and they all stink"... But hey, without a script, he is lost....
The muslim opinion of you is that you are a sub-human pig. They want to march you into the sea along with the rest of the "little Satan" known as Israel. Yet this brilliant anti-Catholic attacks the religion that, for the most part, supports Jews.
Denial is a river in Egypt? How would he know? Today, anti-Jewish feelings run high in Egypt, and is common in the media. The last Jewish wedding in Egypt took place in 1984. The eventual result was the almost complete disappearance of the Jewish community in Egypt; less than a hundred or so remain today.
We are supposed to take this idiot from hollywood seriously?
What's the infatuation with Islam?
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 7:56pm.
Are you concerned that the less than 1% of our population hasn't taken enough digs lately?
Christians - 78.4%
Jews - 1.7%
Buddhist - 0.7%
Muslim - 0.6%
You want a Mohammed t-shirt? Go ahead and make one. No one's stopping you. To attack such a small portion of the American population makes you look foolish. Certainly you can think of another obsession to follow.
yeah!
Submitted by kata on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:09pm.
let's take some pokes at Mormonism. I hear they haven't been made fun of nearly enough in proportion to their membership numbers.
Why not?
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:13pm.
They make up approximately 1.7% of Christian followers. Go after Buddhists, Agnostics, and Atheists while you're at it. No skin off my toes.
Wait...do you like pizza?
well first I'll let Lawrence O'Donnell answer
Submitted by kata on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:19pm.
USMC's question :
Hugh Hewitt: Would you say the same things about Mohammed as you just said about Joseph Smith?
LO’D: Oh, well, I’m afraid of what the…that’s where I’m really afraid. I would like to criticize Islam much more than I do publicly, but I’m afraid for my life if I do.
HH: Well, that’s candid.
LO’D: Mormons are the nicest people in the world. They’re not going to ever…
HH: So you can be bigoted towards Mormons, because they’ll just send you a strudel.
LO’D: They’ll never take a shot at me. Those other people, I’m not going to say a word about them.
HH: They’ll send you a strudel. The Mormons will bake you a cake and be nice to you.
LO’D: I agree.
HH: Lawrence O’Donnell, I appreciate your candor.
(transcript for that is here if you're interested : HughHewitt.com/blog)
I do like pizza. Papa Murphy's Herb Chicken Mediterranean is my favorite.
Who's Hugh?
Submitted by Mister Orange on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:25pm.
I'm still left wondering, with such a small segment of the religious population in America being Muslim, why is it such a high profile target? We're looking at this very large gap between the number of Christians (75+%) and Muslims (>1%). Muslims aren't even on my radar.
I don't know of Papa Murphy, but Herb Chicken Mediterranean sounds delicious. I'm gonna go make a pizza. No, calzone.
somehow
Submitted by kata on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:28pm.
I think you've lost the point entirely. Perhaps you are having low blood sugar issues.
If you ever find yourself in Mystic CT you need to stop and have a calzone at Mystic Pizza.
Christians dont wear suicide vests*
Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 8:50pm.
or make bombs for fun...
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2095506,00.html
1.6 million Muslims live here. It only took 14 of them to kill 3000 people because killing infidels is part of their religion. What do you think they do to Christians, atheists or agnostics?
Who's who---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 9:22pm.
list of those in these perilous times NOT having Muslims on their radar:
Liberals, Democrats, ostriches, and fools.
MD
MO, Just another (yawn) Suicide Christian.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:46pm.
Dump Jesus, save a terrorists life.
Pre-rebuttal: Who really cares where it's happening.
You Didn't Build That.
Something Steven Wright Would Ask
Submitted by stratman on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 10:19pm.
If I "rebut" your argument does that mean you "but" yours?
If someone who gives a rebuttal is a "rebutter", does that mean the first person was a "butter"?
Butt why?
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 11:48pm.
In post-DADT, that would be buttee.
LOL Steven Wright....
I'm just trying to cut down Modus Operandi Zippers, post cut and run, spewage. Slippery 'il posting sucker, that he is.
You Didn't Build That.
I support your mission, UCW.
Submitted by stratman on Fri, 09/30/2011 - 9:31pm.
I support your mission, UCW.
So it posted, even with an error message
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 09/29/2011 - 9:48pm.
That's new ;-)
You Didn't Build That.
Who is the creep from the
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Wed, 09/28/2011 - 10:22pm.
Who is the creep from the judenrat and how would a loserette like him know anything about Catholics and Mormons?
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Typical
Submitted by locomotivebreath1901 on Fri, 09/30/2011 - 5:19pm.
Cowardly hate mongering and religious bigotry is typical for these hollyweird pussies.
I wonder when Kornholtz will speak out against the veritable epidemic of sexual abuse of children by public school teachers??