Joy Behar's Inner Rosie: Conservative Pols Who 'Use' Christianity Have 'Same Syndrome' as 9/11 Terrorists
On Saturday night, HLN replayed Joy Behar’s Tuesday interview with Broadway and TV star Kristin Chenoweth, when Joy celebrated how the actress is “standing tall in the face of criticism from her fellow Christians for her public support of gay rights.” But Joy went further than that. She channeled her inner Rosie O’Donnell and suggested politicians who "use Christianity to make their point" are using the “same syndrome" as “these terrorists who used Islam to kill 3,000 people on 9/11.”
This impaired doozy came at the end of a discussion about how Chenoweth feels she is the better, more compassionate Christian for embracing homosexuality (and after all, how is she going to be a Broadway star without doing that?) Oh, and since the 9/11 thing wasn't enough, Joy also suggested a "slew" of kids committed suicide in Michelle Bachman's district because of the "anti-gay" attitudes there (thank you, New York Times).
BEHAR: What about these politicians who use Christianity to make their point? That bothers me.
CHENOWETH: You know, there is a reason.
BEHAR: Any religion. Any religion.
CHENOWETH: I agree.
BEHAR: It doesn't have to be just Christianity. I mean, you can talk about these terrorists who used Islam to kill 3,000 people on 9/11, it's the same syndrome.
CHENOWETH: I just feel like there is a reason they should be separate. I heard my whole life, separation of church and state.
BEHAR: Right. There's a lot of mixing of that right now going on I think.
CHENOWETH: It's a little frightening to me.
It's somehow not a little frightening to try and preach what the Bible teaches and be compared to a mass murderer who flew a plane into a skyscraper. Then Behar turned to a story gay activists are pushing.
On Tuesday, The New York Times began a story "This sprawling suburban school system, much of it within Michele Bachmann’s Congressional district, is caught in the eye of one of the country’s hottest culture wars — how homosexuality should be discussed in the schools...the school district has suffered eight student suicides in the last two years, leading state officials to declare a 'suicide contagion.'"
BEHAR: That just happened, I was reading about a whole slew of kids who just committed suicide in Minnesota.
CHENOWETH: Are you serious?
BEHAR: Yes. I'm not saying that she had anything to do with it. It happens to be in Michele Bachmann's district.
CHENOWETH: Are you kidding?
BEHAR: And they're very anti-gay in that community there.
CHENOWETH: Haven't we learned, though, anything, Joy?
BEHAR: I don't know. The Christian groups over there, the conservative Christian groups say it's not OK to be gay. So if you're not OK to be gay, there was something wrong. I mean, I was bullied, but for a different reason. I was nerdy, I realize now -- I didn't even know it at the time. But you don`t really feel that bad about yourself as somebody saying it's not OK to be something that you know you are.
CHENOWETH: That you are. And that's what kills me. You know, it doesn't matter, like you said, whatever faith you are, we have these rules of how you have to be. And if you're born a certain way, it's the truth.
Then they discussed other TV shows in the works:
BEHAR: But what about Chaz Bono now? He`s on "Dancing With the Stars," and I understand he`s getting all this hate mail and all these people are furious -- and this guy, Keith Ablow, who is a shrink was on Fox, I was reading this, and he was saying that the children who are watching see -- watch a transgender dance, that they are going to think that they can be transgenders. That is quite a leap.
CHENOWETH: OK. First of all, why are we still having the conversation? That would be -- can you imagine feeling like you`re born in the wrong body?
BEHAR: It can be -- I know that`s got to be very difficult.
CHENOWETH: That has to be very hard in and of itself. Why do we have to persecute and talk badly about, why can`t we just say, OK, this is a person, a man now that has changed into what he feels like he was supposed to be. I can`t imagine how hard that is on his family, on him alone. Why do then we all have to judge it? "And he shouldn`t be on "Dancing With the Stars," and that is going to affect my niece or my nephew or my neighbor." No, it`s not. Kids are way more accepting than adults.
BEHAR: Let`s just see if he can dip a girl.
CHENOWETH: You know what, if he doesn`t drop anybody on its head, then he`s a hero.
BEHAR: There you go. But you know, before I go, I don`t have too much time, you have this new sitcom, "Good Christian Belles." Tell me about that. [It was originally to be titled "Good Christian Bitches."]
CHENOWETH: It`s about a group of five women who grew up in the Bible Belt in Dallas, Texas. And it does deal with spirituality and it deals with how they deal with each other, their Christianity, their demons, all the things that go on as human. It shows the human side of Christianity and it does it with a lot of humor. And I am very proud of it.
BEHAR: And it sounds like it`s edgy.
CHENOWETH: It`s very edgy.
BEHAR: Love that.
CHENOWETH: I love it.
Finally, this is the what-would-Jesus-do portion of the interview, which came earlier, in which we're told being gay is like being short:
CHENOWETH: I just want to say, that if Jesus were alive, what would he be doing? Well, he would probably be accepting and loving people how they're made. And I always say this and it`s really the truth. If being 4'11 was a sin, what would I do? Well, I could wear heels and I could add a wig.
BEHAR: You mean being short.
CHENOWETH: Yes. I`m 4'11. What would I do if that was a sin? I couldn't do anything about it because that's the way God made me. And I do -- make no mistake, I am a Christian and I believe in God, and I don't believe he makes mistakes. So I don`t believe that being gay is not a sin, and in fact it's how you`re made.
BEHAR: Well, isn't the rap that they're not committing a sin as long as they don`t do anything about it?
CHENOWETH: It's like not doing anything about being short. What would I do, hide?
BEHAR: Yeah. So you're gay but you're not supposed to have any kind of sexual behavior in your life, and yet you can't even masturbate. What are you supposed to do? Put a gun to your head? What are the alternatives?
CHENOWETH: The thing is that I am a very spiritual person. But I also am -- you know, I`m a sexual being. That's the way God put us together. I'm not promiscuous. I think that's a different topic, if that's what they`re talking about, that is a different topic.
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facepalm
Submitted by Flig Narson on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 8:24am.
It's amazing. The stupidity is so thick, it becomes an entity in and of itself. You can actually see, smell and taste the stupidity on that set.
I think we need separation of
Submitted by TruthMonger on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 11:36am.
I think we need separation of church and liberals - their take on Christianity is painfully embarassing to watch...
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
One of the cornerstones
Submitted by tjc-illinois on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 8:25am.
One of the cornerstones of Christianity is to love the sinner, hate the sin.
Jesus was not accepting of sinful behavior, He was forgiving of sin with the caveat of sinning no more.
Wasn't this 'born this way' argument (nature versus nuture) resolved in the 1980's film Trading Places.
'Well, to tell the family secret, my grandmother was Dutch." Bart
Confusion
Submitted by Nonanon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:33pm.
I think far too many people are wrongly equating God loving them with God approving of what they do or how they live. He has written a lot about what we are to do and how we are to live. Many of the things these people claim are normal are clearly deemed wrong but apparently they skip over those verses.
There is a verse that states that Satan is the author of confusion. One can see the sins of the flesh played out in these people. Those are the things we are suppose to avoid and reject. Go and sin no more means these things are indeed choices that we can make. It looks as if the Democrat party has built its platform on breaking as many of the Ten Commandments as possible.
It is also evident that liberals keep comparing apples to oranges and saying it is a valid comparison. They equate being born with a certain skin color or certain gender and apparently a certain height with actions that can be avoided so as to excuse the sinful behavior.
It's actually good that this cow moos in this fashion.
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 8:25am.
The more people see what a piece of dirt she is the better as are those that stand (or should I say graze) with her.
Moral Equivalence
Submitted by Mike009 on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 8:47am.
The moral equivalence argument is so over-worn it has gone past being a cliche.
The fallacy is the assumption of
Submitted by DINORightMarie on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 9:14am.
someone being "born gay." That has been shown to be false, that the so-called science that there is a "gay gene" or that "gay-ness is inborn" was falsified. But, as Tim Graham says, parenthetically, how can anyone work on Broadway say anything against gays, whether Christian or not?
I don't pretend to agree, or apologize for, Kristin Chenoweth's view. But I agree with @tjc-illinois - Jesus taught us to hate the sin but love the sinner. However, he also tells us to be in the world but not of the world. In another interview, on Sunday Morning back in 2008, I believe, Chenoweth says her views to the interviewer, and he suggests that "some would say she was corrupted." She agrees! But, she says, "but don't judge me because of it - I don't judge you" while looking at the camera.
To me that says she admits that she has been in the world, and been corrupted by it. Also, that it is her sin, but she won't call it that - because the world she lives in (that we all live in today) doesn't really accept the very idea of sin. Also, to some degree, she is saying, "Jesus will judge me. You are called to love one another - that's what I'm doing. I am loving those people around me." Who knows? Maybe this is a way for some of these people to meet - and see - Jesus; she is a witness. I just hope and pray that her seed is being scattered and that some will sprout and take deep root in good soil, that it won't all be stolen away or wither and die.
How can someone share Jesus in such a community while professing hatred or animosity to someone for their sin? Who would hear that message - or allow them to be in their midst?
She prays. She openly shares salvation, her love of Christ, her dependence on Him for her ability, her thankfulness for His gifts that she openly acknowledges God to have given her.
She is a powerful voice for Christ where she is. Pray that God will use it all, work it together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose. And He will - it's His promise! Romans 8:28
Behar and Chenoweth
Submitted by DINORightMarie on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 9:51am.
are perpetuating the fallacy that gays are "born that way" - and I assume they believe it's true. Most gay people think so, whether it's factually true or not. It has been perpetuated in the media ad naseam for decades.
That "gayness" is a behavior choice, but rather is not genetic is the lie they believe - one that the media has perpetuated, and society has overall bought into. Here is a link to an article on this: Is there a Gay Gene?. There are others which state basically the same thing. I won't link to others, but you get the picture. It is a lie, and many believe it is true.
They are corrupted by the lies of this world. Too many people watch - and accept - what the media and celebrities say as "fact." That is another sin of this world.
Give me a moment so I can finish laughing at you
Submitted by Mister Orange on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 10:02am.
Okay, that's better. No I need another minute.
Done. So you found yourself an article declaring homosexuality is a choice, yo? And there are...others too? Tell me, have you read any of the thousands of publications professing the opposite? And what do you think makes millions of men suddenly decide, "I think I want to try putting a penis is my mouth?"
Millions of men??
Submitted by Joe W. on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:12pm.
I doubt it is "Millions", Scooter, and it IS a choice. No one holds a gun to your head and tells you to do such a vile thing as you describe. Just like no one makes me take a drink...yet I AM an alcoholic. I make the choice to not imbibe? Easy? Nope. But that is one sin I do not allow myself to commit.
See if you can follow
Submitted by Mister Orange on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 9:44am.
If there are 300,000,000 Americans, and 1-2% of the population is gay, then 3-6 million Americans are gay. Now that you're up to speed...
Mr Orange you prove my point
Submitted by DINORightMarie on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 2:18pm.
.....but I will not laugh at you.
BTW - the article I found references many secular, psychological studies and statements. Did you even bother to read it? I thought not.
How sad that you resort to ad hominem to make your point. But - that just means that you have nothing else to win your argument to use like FACTS.
Narth?
Submitted by Mister Orange on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 9:46am.
You may as well present literature from the Flat Earth Society as proof that the world is flat.
Mr Orange*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 9:50am.
Everytime you post under a different username, for some reason I am reminded of the movie, 50 First Dates.
cajun
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 10:03am.
LOL! Very good! Does he think we're all Drew Barrymore and forget him with every new name? Well, I am that good looking. I wish!
Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 10:31am.
I was thinking of deddy as Drew Barrymore. LOL
And you are indeed a cutie...;-)
Better send that one to SOL
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 11:27am.
"50 First Deddys".
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Career before Jesus
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 10:08am.
Hollywood in the forties and fifties we had great stars that publically acknowledged God it seems all the time. That has changed and it was no accident that it did. We heard them praise Him at the academy awards and on television talk shows and in live performances and in books.
Much has changed since Maureen O'Hara, Wayne, Heston, Stewart, Robert Taylor, Red Skelton and the rest left this world. I don't expect luke warm Christians like Chenoweth to be filing their shoes anytime soon.
I agree with you
Submitted by DINORightMarie on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 2:31pm.
a lot has changed since then. And it is NOT by accident. But we all sin and fall short, and we are going have to stand before the judgement seat one day. God convicts, guides, and directs - in His perfect timing, in His way.
If we are moving in the wrong direction, or have made bad choices, we will live with the consequences. But if we confess our sins, God is faithful to forgive.
No apology. No excuses. Faith that He will convict, will work all things together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purpose.
Judging by her ever
Submitted by michael lofrano on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 9:17am.
Judging by her ever increasing circumference, Joy is showing her outer Rosie also.
Got a lot to say about this, so please bear with me.
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 9:18am.
First, enough of this reconciling Christianity with World Views so that it can be conformed to personal views. To say anything other than what has been scripturally acceptable for centuries, as written in the bible, provides a distortion that does not serve the body of Christ.
It's time these "Christians" face the reality of what their faith COMMANDS of them. It is my belief that Christ taught that followers must 'separate themselves from the world' (I'm paraphrasing), or am I wrong?
What's wrong with these people? They are advocating an extreme procedure of mutilating your own body so that the person can 'feel better' about being what they think they should be? Wouldn't a more pragmatic solution be to figure out WHY the person FEELS they were 'born into the wrong body?' But I suppose that's just too-o-ooo much common sense for the average liberal to take in.
Despite what the advocates say, I'm becoming more and more convinced that gays are MADE, NOT BORN. The same applies to Transgendered people. That does not mean that I support rounding up these people and putting them into concentration camps. I believe in free will, and people should be what they want to be without having to FORCE the rest of us into accepting who and what they are, and what they do, as NORMAL.
There's also something to be said about a 'Christian' that would participate in a project called 'Good Christian Bitches'. I don't care what they're calling it now.
Please spare me the 4'11" argument. You can't possibly compare a physical attribute, such as size with a lifestyle behaviour.
This beach blonde bimbo who calls herself a Christian actually said: "So I don`t believe that being gay is not a sin, and in fact it's how you`re made." Too many negatives there, sister... The actual belief is that having same-sex inclinations is not a sin, but actually acting out those desires is in fact sinful, just as straight sex is outside of marriage.
And finally, would you liberals PLEASE STOP with the WWJD stuff? Everybody knows that Jesus went out of his way to be with sinners, but he also commanded... that's COMMANDED that they "SIN NO MORE" ... and that's a DIRECT QUOTE!
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
I sense a lot of anger and hate in your words
Submitted by Mister Orange on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 9:50am.
Learned that from a loving God, did you?
Moses wasn't "going to take it anymore" and so
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 10:30am.
he got angry at the pharaoh for keeping them in captivity. Later he was angered by the people he led out of captivity when they went back to worshipping false gods. "Those who will not live by the law will die by the law."
Was God angry when He rained fire upon the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. Or was that just "tough love?"
And the flood...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 4:56pm.
...Don't forget the flood! ;)
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Good thing, Ain't as bad now; as it was way back in yesteryear
Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 09/21/2011 - 12:34am.
Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
My only question is: Where on earth did all them folk in those two cities get all this free time,to bugger about in that preindustrial oil age, how on earth did they even have time to sashay by and visit tourists way out at Lots house at 3:00 AM waves and multitudes of surging male youth! Ox carts???? really ?what?, the first rapid transit on the planet, really how did all of them get there?
You Didn't Build That.
Anger and hate?
Submitted by Nonanon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:44pm.
The anger and hate clearly come from the liberals who hold views contrary to God and the Bible. Christians (and conservatives) want those who disagree with them to change their minds and actions whereas the liberals want Christians and conservatives to suffer and die. That should be enough evidence to discern how are the haters are.
Usually left out of discussions like this is that there is a being (Satan, the Devil, Beelzebub to name a few names) who works to keep people blind to the truth and feed them losing arguements that they believe are right.
It seems many have re-defined love to mean doing something that makes you feel good about yourself rather than doing something that is good for someone else.
Damn right I'm angry!
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 5:18pm.
Right on, Mr. Orange. I'm tired of people lying to me all the time pretending what they preach is the truth, when the truth should be as obvious as the fact that the sun rises in the morning, and sets in the evening.
What??? Are you saying that being angry is the same as hating????????
I have every right to be angry. It's a perfectly normal reaction to the constant lies and propoganda perpetrated by liberals, but for you to confuse that with hatred...
Boy, do you have a lot to learn about our faith, particularly how to differentiate between the two emotions
You see, I believe that I'm entitled to get angry. But God COMMANDS (There's that word again...) that I FORGIVE those that does me harm. YOU CANNOT FORGIVE IF YOU'RE BEING HATEFUL, and in fact, the Creator frowns quite heavily on those who REFUSES to forgive.
Do you get it now?
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
If a person believes people are "born gay"
Submitted by DINORightMarie on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 3:11pm.
then physical height is similar. Height is genetically inherited, after all.
I don't defend the points Behar and Chenoweth make. However, I believe it all goes back to the original premise of the discussion, the assumption that someone is "born gay" rather than making a choice about sex.
These two women believe that "gayness" is genetic, that gay people are "born this way."
That is the fallacy, the deception. Sexual behavior is a choice, as you mention. But this entire discussion assumes that it is NOT a choice.
Jesus tells those trying to stone the adulterous woman in the square (John 8), "He who is without sin cast the first stone." They all drop their stones and walk away. Then Jesus tells the woman He doesn't condemn her, and to "go and sin no more." We don't know if that was Mary Magdaline, as some assert, or if the woman even did as Jesus said.
However, we do know Jesus loved her, whether she committed that sin or not. He loved the sinner, even though He recognized her sin. He condemned the sin. But loved the sinner.
Today, many people don't even think there is such a thing a sin, or they have been taught that sin is just a way to keep you from doing "what you feel" or something. To them, there is no right or wrong, morality is relative. Such thinking is accepted by much of the Western world today.
This discussion, this conversation between Behar and Chenoweth, is just an example of how people of faith have to live in a hostile world, have to live in a world that doesn't even believe the devil is real, that there is such a thing a sin, that you define what is right for you.
To be in the world but not of the world is difficult. Most of us have been "corrupted" in some way, whether we know it or not.
I also appreciate your allusion to 1984, to Star Trek. That is a book that shows one possible reality of a morally relativistic society - resulting in oppressive tyranny; and Star Trek gives a graphic example of how we must resist being broken by tyrannical oppressors. But, if we are Christians, we are to love the sinner, yet hate the sin, and forgive.
It is a day by day, moment by moment struggle. It is not easy, but we are called to do it.
Here I go again
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 3:35pm.
I am going to hate myself in the morning but here I go.
1) The born gay thing is real. I knew a kid when I was growing up that was definitley 'off' He played with Barbie dolls while the rest of us played with GI Joe..if you catch my drift. And that was way before any sexual awareness came into play.
2) Human DNA is not static..It can mutate at the quatum level. Often shows up as cancer or as the result of some drug such as thalidomide. So is it really that surprising that the sexual identity genes get mixed up from time to time?
Ok, blast away..
Another anecdote...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 5:06pm.
While I respect your opinion based on a boy who plays with barbie dolls instead of GI Joe, consider that the child does not necessarily have to be hard-coded that way. Just because he doesn't understand the nature of his sexuality at his age, doesn't mean that the behaviour is hard-wired.
Consider the environment in which that boy was raised. Was there a father-figure in the household? Were the parents married? Was the mother single? Did the parents "encourage" the development of the boy? There could be a large number of factors that we simply do not understand that could affect the development of the child, but I will agree with you that the boy in this case is exhibiting signs of "off" as you put it.
Consider also that there must be a number of boys who "plays with barbie dolls", but turn out completely straight, got married, raised children, etc. The two situations may not actually be 'connected'.
I won't condemn the child for his inclinations. That's not my place. Only the creator has that kind of authority. Having said that, I would like that at the same time, gays do not condemn my beliefs as "hateful" or "homophobic" just because I won't accept that the BEHAVIOUR is 'normal', or for trying to get them to accept the reality that homosexual BEHAVIOUR is in fact a sin!
As for your other point, I think we have just established that there's no genetic link to same-sex attraction, so it's pretty hard to hold on to the 'development of genes' angle, but even if that is so, you're not equating homosexuality to a disease, are you? (I seriously don't believe that you are, I was just being a little facetious.)
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Joy doesn't have an original thought in her head.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 9:41am.
and once again proves it.
Chenoweth is a victim of "new think"
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 9:55am.
"...why can`t we just say, OK, this is a person, a man now that has changed into what he feels like he was supposed to be?"
That statement by Chenoweth is one of the reasons we need to separate secularism from state.
Chenoweth may never put it together by talking to clowns like Behar. But there really is a devil and the presense of evil thought is at work at our nation's "public schools."
The object is to psycologize the children in these head shrinking laboratories run by the government; to indoctrinate them into being as Chenoweth so eloquently puts it:" way more accepting than adults." Acceptance means "accepting" socialism and the rest of the liberal homo philosophy that children are getting in mega-doses today in public school.
Even when the Bible is used as an historical document the liberal school boards shut these type of schools down as this one in Idaho was. But the Christians running this charter school are fighting back
http://thenewamerican.com/culture/education/9022-school-closed-for-teach...
The homosexual agenda is no longer in the closet>>>
http://hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/Articl...
oh no
Submitted by D'saredumbpeople on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 11:03am.
matching boobleheads......
MIKA and JOY
Another liberal contradiction.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 11:12am.
Liberals believe that God "made" gay people the way they are. That means God formed them that way in the womb.
Yet they pretend that God has nothing to do with forming anyone else in the womb, and that's how they justify abortion.
So what's the deal, folks? God "makes" gay people, but every other embryo is just a clump of random cells and can be wantonly destoryed?
It's tough being a liberal. One has to constantly shift gears and "recalibrate" when one's own arguments come back to bite.
motherbelt
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 11:39am.
I thought the general consensus around here was that liberals are God-less.
If that is the case, then I don't think your typical liberal would assert that God made anything - let alone gay people.
So for those folks, I don't think there is a contradiction.
However, your point reminds me of an argument on NB from a long time ago. One of our resident liberals (I don't remember who) was asked by someone (again, I don't remember who) if it would be OK in the mind of a pro-abortion liberal for a person to abort a baby specifically because it was gay on the assumption that a gay gene existed and, at some point in the future, we could detect it in the womb.
I do remember that person having trouble with that scenario.
Add to that that God made
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 9:17am.
Chaz/Chastity Bono in a way that he/she no longer likes. "Torture" to quote from the story. So can God only make no mistakes if the person is happy with they were born--otherwise, He does?
What a doublethink.
Here's what I get from this:
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 11:23am.
It's okay to hate Christians, for any slip from the 'true path', i.e., the Hollywood path, but not gays, no matter how abhorrent their behavior.
Joy, Rosie and Oprah.............
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 11:48am.
Proof that dwarf planets can actually exist amongst the humans on earth.
Ok,
Submitted by kata on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:11pm.
they might as well be expressing their opinions on quantum physics for all the knowledge they share on the topic at hand.
I agree...
Submitted by Rackie on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 1:38pm.
she's nuts and closing in on being a dick
Why does this unfunny, shrill, hateful hag even have a show?
Submitted by Phryj1 on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 2:19pm.
Does anyone even watch it? And if so, aren't humor-challenged dimwits who like snarky, fact-deficient hate-fests kind of a niche market anyway? Seriously, an hour of paint drying would be more informative TV.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
It's easy to endorse something when your opinion...
Submitted by stage9 on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 10:13pm.
...is the measure of truth.
The problem with most so-called "Christians" today is that 9/10's of them haven't got the slightest CLUE what the Word of Living God has to say on much of anything. Their minds have been sold to the world along with their hearts. They've adopted a culturally minded worldview. Everything that fashions their thinking first passes through the polluted filter of the culture. If the culture buys into a lie, then they buy into the lie. God no longer governs their thinking, the world does.
There is no greater example of this than when faced with the reality of the studies that have been conducted exposing the sickening practice of sodomy.
The media and the politically correct continuously spew this incessant poison that the homosexual lifestyle is as normal and virtuous as any other, absolutely ignoring the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
1) There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that exists today of any so-called "gay gene".
Simon LeVay, a neuroanatomist at The Salk Institute in San Diego, founded the Institute for G a y and L e s b i a n Education in San Francisco after researching and publishing the study of hypothalamic structures in men most widely-cited as confirming innate brain differences between h o m o s e x u a l s and h e t e r o s e x u a l s, as he himself initially argued. He later acknowledged:
"It's important to stress what I didn't find. I did not prove that h o m o s e x u a l i t y is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being g a y. I didn't show that g a y men are born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work. Nor did I locate a g a y center in the brain."
If homosexuality is NOT innate, it is then chosen. Therefore, the "lifestyle" becomes a MORAL choice. And THIS is why homosexuals have continued to push for a mythical "gay gene".
2) The homosexual lifestyle has HIGH incidences of suicide!
According to Dr N.E. Whitehead, Author of "My Genes Made Me Do it":
The authors of the study done in The Netherlands were surprised to find so much mental illness in h o m o s e x u a l people in a country where tolerance of h o m o s e x u a l i t y is greater than in almost all other countries.
Another good comparison country is New Zealand, which is much more tolerant of h o m o s e x u a l i t y than is the United States. Legislation giving the movement special legal rights is powerful, consistently enforced throughout the country, and virtually never challenged. Despite this broad level of social tolerance, s u i c i d e attempts were common in a New Zealand study and occurred at about the same rate as in the U.S.
Dr Whitehead continues:
Saghir and Robins (1978) examined reasons for s u i c i d e attempts among h o m o s e x u a l s and found that if the reasons for the attempt were connected with h o m o s e x u a l i t y, about 2/3 were due to breakups of relationships --not outside pressures from society.
Similarly, Bell and Weinberg (1981) also found the major reason for s u i c i d e attempts was the breakup of relationships. In second place, they said, was the inability to accept oneself. Since h o m o s e x u a l s have greater numbers of partners and breakups, compared with h e t e r o s e x u a l s, and since longterm g a y male relationships are rarely monagamous, it is hardly surprising if s u i c i d e attempts are proportionally greater. The median number of partners for h o m o s e x u a l s is four times higher than for h e t e r o s e x u a l s (Whitehead and Whitehead 1999, calculated from Laumann et al 1994).
3) There is an ASTRONOMICALLY high rate of relationship turnover within the homosexual community.
The following for example, was published in Lambada:
- 24 percent of g a y men had more than 100 partners.
- 43 percent of g a y men had more than 500 partners.
- 28 percent of g a y men had more than 1,000 partners.
Studies have also found that while h o m o s e x u a l s may be trying to convince themselves that what they are doing is acceptable, they have serious doubts in their hearts. A Columbia University study on “internalized homophobia” among h o m o s e xu a l persons found that a significant percentage of h o m o s ex u a l s surveyed held negative attitudes toward their own h o m o s e x u a l i t y and toward other h o m o s e x u a l s.
4) Medical consequences associated with the lifestyle continue to be staggering.
Surveys indicate that about 90% of g a y s have engaged in r e c t a l intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily s e x u a l diaries, g a y s averaged 110 s e x partners and 68 r e c t a l encounters a year. This practice is the most s ex u a l l y efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV, syphilis and a host of other blood-borne diseases.
There are literally dozens of other common homosexual practices that promote disease but they are entirely too graphic and grotesque to list here.
5) Physical abuse is very high within the homosexual community.
A study in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence examined conflict and violence in lesbian relationships. The researchers found that 90 percent of the lesbians surveyed had been recipients of one or more acts of verbal aggression from their intimate partners during the year prior to this study, with 31 percent reporting one or more incidents of physical abuse.
In their book Men Who Beat the Men Who Love Them: Battered Gay Men and Domestic Violence, Island and Letellier postulate that "the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double that in the heterosexual population."
The media ENABLES this behavior by REFUSING to even TOUCH this subject. They all know that if they dared to expose this lifestyle for what it really is they would see the end of their careers. And we can't have that, now can we? And Christians today, unfortunately, haven't got the slightest clue what's going on.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge