Fox's Megyn Kelly: Disapprove of Chaz Bono? You're Pushing for Violence
Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly is going to earn an award from LGBT activists for getting vein-popping angry on The O’Reilly Factor Thursday that psychiatrist Dr. Keith Ablow would dare to suggest parents may want to flip the remote away from “transgender” activist Chaz Bono on ABC’s Dancing With the Stars on Monday.
Who said Fox News was the right-wing channel? There was Kelly, insisting to O’Reilly that Dr. Ablow’s warning on Foxnews.com against Bono's show was going to lead to violence from American wackos at the McDonald’s.
Kelly said Ablow's science was "way off base," but O’Reilly pressed Kelly to say Ablow wasn’t a bad guy, but she insisted he could cause violence. “That doesn’t mean his own words won’t lead to that.” The column “was irresponsible and dangerous and could lead to some real problems. Listen, this group of people already undergoes enough discrimination and isolation and violence. “
O’Reilly suggested she was on a “slippery slope” insisting criticism equals violence, and she shot back, “No, don’t talk over it! I’m telling you! This group of people is persecuted already, and now you’ve got Dr. Ablow telling people that if your kids sees one in a manner that’s something akin to a celebration, your kid may wind up being one of them! Now there are people in this country that will react to that, and the next time they see a transgender at the McDonald’s or at some group event, and that’s irresponsible."
To Megyn Kelly, to disapprove is to cause violence. Where is the debate in that?
Kelly drew O'Reilly's attention after a Tuesday interview/denunciation/sensitivity training seminar with Ablow on her show, where she denounced Ablow for "adding to the hate."
Ablow said applauding gender reassignment surgery -- the way the media celebrates Chaz Bono for the "courage" of her "transition" -- is irresponsible. Angry Kelly shot back: "Isn’t it just tolerant? Isn’t it just tolerant? You know what? There's so much hate out there. There's so much hate for gays and lesbians and transgendered people...The thing is, Doc, you seem to be adding to the hate."
Kelly, who appeared as a "special guest" at a Manhattan fundraiser for the National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association (as many Fox News employees have), told Ablow that he was out of his depth and that other doctors knew more than he did. She quoted from Dr. Jack Drescher, who also had a piece on Foxnews.com denouncing Ablow. Kelly did not tell her viewers that Drescher's piece was borrowed from the blog of the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest LGBT lobby -- which might make one think there's more than "science" here in the mix.
Kelly was really angry that Ablow would suggest that watching the show could cause confusion in children and suggest to them that perhaps they' were born in the wrong gender. "I think the viewers get this. I think they get that our children are no more likely to turn transgender from watching Chaz Bono on this show than they are likely to turn gay from watching Will and Grace. You either are, or you’re not."
Kelly did not admit that gay-left advocates often cite pro-LGBT shows on the major networks as proof that "tolerance" is on the march and conservatives should stop opposing them in public.
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Totally agree with Megyn about some things
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:12am.
But I agree with O'Reilly about triggering violence in the gay community.
gay on gay crime?
Submitted by Rackie on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:07pm.
oh the horror
Hmmm rackie
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 3:52pm.
Is there anywhere it specifies the violence is gay on gay or is that you own opinion?
earlier today in this story I saw "gay crime" ...
Submitted by Rackie on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 4:45pm.
I thought it odd that "hate crime" or anti-gay" crime was not used - so, flippant as I am, I posted the first quickie that came to mind - aka "the beta post" - probably not a good idea knowing how quick some folks can get their panties in a knot.
But in retropect, it does not make sense. not the first time, not the last time
drinks for everyone
That's okay rackie
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 5:01pm.
Your last post made no sense either. At least you are consistent
Well, that's it...
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:20am.
I suppose this blows up the perception, often expressed in the NB threads, that Ms. Kelly is an all-out warrior for conservative values. It also goes to show that there are very few people in public life who are 100% conservative on every last issue. Despite disagreeing with Megyn Kelly on this issue ( and a few others), I still think she shows a lot of common sense on many other issues (although I have noticed a tendency by her to play "the smartest person in the room" and she can get overbearing on occasion). I hope she doesn't attract the vitriol that Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer received when they occasionally express doubts and concerns about the viability of some conservative candidates. We've got to look at their whole record before consigning them to "RINO" status.
Excellent point Chris
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:31am.
Conservatives need to just shut up if they don't agree with everything the base believes in or they are giving comfort to the liberals
Agree that Megyn Kelly has a right to be a part of the
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:46am.
gay agenda if she chooses but disagree that conservatives should ever "shut up." No need to silence the opposition and there is more than one brand of conservatism per se. In fact the Log Cabin conservatives are gay and believe in approximately 90% if not more of what the base believes in. I do not vilify gays but also do not promote their agenda either.
I am not an advocate of the death penalty but do not think proponents should be silenced. A good spirited debate is never a bad thing.
I was being sarcastic
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:53pm.
I believe that people should voice their displeasure even if it is their party of choice
Cutting Kelly a break. But what if it's Ron Paul's party
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:03pm.
of choice?"
Does he deserve a break?
"Maybe they do and maybe they don't have a bomb. And if they do Israel will take care of them. But why beat the war drums over 'they might get a bomb some day'" line.
Yes
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:56pm.
Yes
sorry shawn, didn't read into the sarcasm;)
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 8:57pm.
*
"need to shut up"
Submitted by Rackie on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:12pm.
dingdingdingding
Are the fries
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:52pm.
done?
ding
neo con kiddy train I hear?
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:19pm.
yep, that's the neocon express arriving.
Irgon = TROLL
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 3:03pm.
Do not feed the trolls.
PaulTroll?
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 4:43pm.
Trollbot? Either fits Beuke.
Have you read this column by Cal Thomas?
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 1:12am.
Cool Cal said some mighty nice things about Ron Paul.>>>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/cal-thomas/2011/09/16/ron-paul-was-right
How do you like that Mr. boom?
Irgon = TROLL
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 09/19/2011 - 11:06am.
Do not feed the trolls.
Krauthammer is what he is - a liberal
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:56pm.
"... Krauthammer ...on domestic issues,... is a supporter of legalized abortion;an opponent of the death penalty; an intelligent design critic and an advocate for the scientific consensus on evolution, calling the religion-science controversy a "false conflict;" a supporter of embryonic stem cell research using embryos discarded by fertility clinics with restrictions in its applications; and a longtime advocate of radically higher energy taxes to induce conservation." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer
He's been at the Washington Post for 15 years. Before that he wrote for the totally leftist journal The New Republic. So one can be safe to say that he is not a conservative on "domestic issues" like say Michelle Bachman or Ron Paul. Maybe as liberal as Mitt but not as liberal as Chaz.
Megyn, We hardly know ye!
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:16am.
Tim, thanks for reporting this, but what happened to her “common sense?” IMO that Fox News thing “Fair & Balanced” has gone too far... Let’s just stick to “Fair” and forget about the balance.
Megyn has lost some of my respect.
- Grump :o)
American wackos hang out at McDonald's, Megyn?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:17am.
Why does any child need to be confronted by sexual issues?
That picture accompanying the Dr. Ablow article is ....sad.
OK, time to join my fellow wackos at McDonald's.
"Instead of fries,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:21am.
would you like a baseball bat with your Big Mac?"
Nah
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:21am.
Rather have something with some stopping power like a Glock 19. Baselball bats are messy. .
You call that stopping power?
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:04pm.
A Glock 19? That puny 9mm? If you want to hit harder than a baseball bat at a distance, you need the Glock 20!
http://www.glock.com/english/glock20.htm
It's a thing of beauty.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
Glock 20
Submitted by IdahoJim on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:49pm.
Nice. Might want to put one on my Xmas wish list. I'm tired of having to borrow the wife's 357 Magnum to go to the range.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
I would rather be
Submitted by Denny Crane on Sat, 09/17/2011 - 12:29am.
The man with the golden gun.
Put this on my wish list too.
We Are The 53%
If I had unlimited cash,
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 4:46pm.
I'd take the FN 5.7mm.
McDonald's is on the LGBT agenda
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:19pm.
So you might end up finding out that McDonald's was handing out bats to the Chaz Bonos.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
Get a grip, Megyn.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:25am.
People who are prone to be violent are going to be violent regardless of the circumstance--whether it's at a soccer match or at a McDonald's.
Would you suggest that members of this group of "persecuted people" get the psychological help they so desperately need? Of course not. You, Megyn, want to send them on their merry way and pretend they're not in the throes of a mental illness. Hey, if they're journalists, you'll even hang out with them and affirm their shared affliction.
Dr. Ablow is adding to the hate? Hardly.
But you, Megyn, are very much adding to the deluding of individuals who should be getting help, rather than a pat on the head. We can talk about your adding to the debasing of the culture another time.
--Mike
This must really get to you Mr Bratton
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:35am.
Are you going to demand an apology from Mrs Kelly just like you are demanding one from Mr Bozell?
"Get to me"? Odd choice of words.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 8:05pm.
But I'm guessing Megyn is less aware of this site than Brent is, and we see how responsive Brent was to all those who called him on his nonsensical invective.
Nevertheless...
Megyn, you need to bail on your wrong-headed, unsupportable position, and apologize to everyone who thought you had a more fair-and-balanced head upon your shoulders.
There.
--Mike
I'm sure you will get an apology soon Mr Bratton
Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:13pm.
You are a very important part of Newsbusters and extremely respected by all. Even though Mr Bozell had never responded to anyone on this site i am so sure he will make an exception for you
As for Mrs Kelly, she might even make an on air apology to you for all Fox viewers to hear.
Shawn
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:22pm.
Thanks. I'm still in the office working, and that gave me a much needed smile.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Yes, I am both a mover and a shaker.
Submitted by Mike Bratton on Sat, 09/17/2011 - 9:44am.
But if you have a more mannered, more optimistic way to object? I'm all ears.
--Mike
This is so stupid
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:28pm.
I am amazed that anyone give a crap. Fact is, the free market will make it's decision, and that will be that.
Get mad, happy, or sad!
Bernie Goldberg once said "TV is a freak show" and he was right!
Kelly is correct
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:39am.
I think her McDonald's violence point is over the top, but otherwise I agree with her criticism of Ablow's assessment.
I think he's right
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:08pm.
Putting this crap on television is "normalizing" it, and that's exactly the idea. That's why you see gay characters popping up in practically every show and movie.
They're trying to beat it into every kid's head that this stuff is normal and that the people involved aren't freaks, which it isn't and they are.
Of course, a big chunk of prime time television is either garbage for the MTV generation or it's propaganda for the Left, like Modern Family.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
Popping up
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:54pm.
might be a poor choice of words...
Great post sir
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:11pm.
This normalizing of homosexuality began creeping into "family shows and even game shows like Match Game. Slowly it moved from merely poking jokes at homos to out and out embracing them on conservative News shows like Fox News where not only Kelly is a big fan of the GLBT movement.Others likes Charles Krotchammer support "gay marriage."
http://hawaiifreepress.com/main/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/articleType/Articl...
Identity
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:03am.
I don't quite understand - are people like Chaz Bono looking to be identified with their "new sex" or as "transgendered people"? I would think if, say, a woman, wanted to be man, they would have the necessary operations and then go off and quietly live in their new identities instead of offering themselves up on national television as the process rather than the result. Maybe my confusion is caused by my knuckles dragging on the ground...
Good question
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:57am.
I think generally, your assumptions are correct. Individuals seek privacy to avoid the freak show syndrome.
But Chastity/Chaz Bono has been in the public eye since her/his parents displayed weekly on their TV variety show, and her/his struggle to discover her gender identity has been very public, no thanks to supermarket tabloids, etc. It certainly didn't help Bono's self-esteem.
I think that now that Bono has arrived at this male identity and appears happy with it (mom Cher finally accepts it), Chaz Bono wants to publicly proclaim this personal transition to construct an image as a transgender crusader, making the world better for transgendered folks (and those considering), and thus boost his/her self-esteem as a "Hey, I'm okay with myself and you accept me" kind of hero. This person needs the acclamation of the public (through the MSM) more than just about any human being.
my guess is
Submitted by misterbee241 on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:38pm.
this is the end of the road for her search for identity, happiness or whatever you want to call it. she has exhausted all her options. i hate to think what might be her next step when this one doesnt turn out to be her happiness pill. There's one other place she can try, but coming from the culture she does, i doubt she'd want to hear about it.
She needs acclimation as a form of justification
Submitted by IdahoJim on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:43pm.
Justification in her mind that what she did was okay. Too much disapproval might lead to her realizing she made a mistake.
I feel sorry for her, and I feel anger at the enablers around her that let her make such a mistake instead of helping her better understand her issues.
Dr. Ablow was correct in everything he wrote.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
That's the point: to offer their "transformation"
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:14pm.
as the norm to millions of kids that don't get the Christian or "normal":- normal perspective at school and now even in some so-called "christian" circles and churces. It's a demonic operation - the homosexual movement that is.
Is there really any point to this argument
Submitted by Marsh on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:52am.
since no one under the age of 45 watches DWTS?
ha ha
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:16pm.
How many kids under 45 went ballistic when Bristol Palin came in third?
Disapproving of Chaz Bono
Submitted by Beukeboom on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:56am.
Disapproving of Chaz Bono causes...
acne
acid reflux
gout
stronger hurricanes in the Atlantic and Gulf
global warming
cows to cease giving milk
gravity to cease
Chuck Norris to cry
overripe grapefuits
higher ACT/SAT scores
the overthrow of the Cuban dictatorship by armed lobsters
Just as ridiculous as the global warming fearmongers.
Over the Top Megyn
Submitted by FaulknerFan on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 9:57am.
I saw this last night. My wife had seen it during the day and was fuming about it before Kelly was on O'Reilly. For once O'Reilly was the voice of reason here as Kelly went off the rails on it again. The whole LGBT issue seems to be a bur under her saddle as it is with the Hoover woman who O'Reilly has on every week. Never liked Hoover because she is a clear RINO but I did like Megyn, until now. Hoover's grandaddy though was the first to respond to a failing economy with increased government spending that was derided by FDR during the campaign and then doubled up on when he took office, thereby prolonging a problem that likely would have worked itself out in a year or two to at least ten years. So at least maybe Hoover has her linage as an excuse. Maybe since her baby came Megyn's decided to angle for a job at one of the alphabets.
It won't cause violence
Submitted by Tjexcite on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:10am.
It won't cause violence but the free market should allow one to change the channel. Whatever the free market rules in that if Chaz is off in the first vote than that is what the people want. If they as in producers make the vote rigged and he is left on to the final 4 even thought he can't dance the free market will punish them with no ratings.
Now some will still what him taken behind the wall and stoned for what he is but that only happens on Iran's venison. But the LGBT are deathly quiet about that and the invite to Columbia.
If Chaz
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:58pm.
goes to the Middle East will he wear a Burka or a towel hat or perhaps both?
Neither.
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 5:42pm.
She'd get killed. It's too weird for the Middle East to deal with. They do execute the gays after all. I mean they stone them. Well, that's execution. In Chastity's case (that's her name, liberals, she changed it, but she's born with that name), she'd be stuck in the ground to her legs and then stoned and shot.
Islam has no place for her.
-Jon
Yeah, how DARE Dr. Ablow
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:19am.
Yeah, how DARE Dr. Ablow suggest that this might not be appropriate for children!!
It's parents like that that make it necessary for the government schools to get their hands on kids to educate as soon as they're weaned!! Because ignorant parents might deprive their kids of this rich "learning" experience.
After all, isn't that what this what DWTS is for....teaching children social lessons?
MB, Good point!
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:25am.
I’m probably going to mess this argument up a bit (make it more confusing than it has to be – lol), but:
It seems to me that Megyn is a “legal expert” and Dr. Ablow is a “Mental Health” expert - So rather than arguing against Dr. Ablow, would it not have been better for Megyn to pursue the legal issues? I can think of one right off the top of my head: “Is it legal to force a female professional dancer to dance with another woman as a condition of employment?”
It’s a “What-if” question, but what if the dancing partner of Chastity/Chaz/It refused to perform with the “She-it” on moral grounds and got fired for her refusal… Which side of the argument would hold Megyn’s sympathies?
Just wondering. (And very, very disappointed with Ms. Kelly)
- Grump :o)
Who's being hatefull?
Submitted by CobraMan on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:31am.
"The thing is, Doc, you seem to be adding to the hate."
Kelly sure seems to be getting VERY emotional, VERY angry, over a Fox News opinion article, which makes me wonder just WHO will become hateful due to his opinions?
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Sorry Megyn, Those are stupid points you make.
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:40am.
Gawd, I just love that term "hater". It's so typical of the Liberal mindset..."We don't agree with you politically, so we'll attach a label to you based on emotion, and leave the argument at that, with no further discussion." Reminds me of a schoolyard whine..."You're such a meanie!"
I'm sorry that life cannot be puppies and daisies for everyone, but sometimes, people are not completely comfortable in their own skin. It may be their cross to bear, and I'm all for helping people with their own happiness, but to think that making gender reassignment surgery should be put forth as an option to a confused adolescent does the VAST MAJORITY of confused adolescents (and many are, it's the nature of maturing) more harm than good.
How far away is DWTS. . .
Submitted by rickbren on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:48am.
. . .from having a gay guy actor/celebrity on the show dancing with a male pro?? Chaz is a FEMALE. She has not had sex reassignment surgery only a double mastectomy. This is sick of ABC to do this on a "family" show. . .
Turn Transgender
Submitted by miss911ninja on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:38pm.
I think Kelly simply misspoke when she used the term "turn transgender," but it struck me as odd. Because you DO need a scalpel for that!
I'd be much more worried that kids will get the impression
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:53am.
that morbid obesity is not only acceptable, but is so cool that it could actually land you a spot on DWTS.
If Chaz might be a walking heart attack, he/she is surely a dancing heart attaaaaack.
"Let's Move!"
I predict
Submitted by Chaitealover on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 10:55am.
that Chaz will be introduced on DWTS as "Chaz Bono" followed by whatever professional credit they choose, not "Chaz Bono, Transgendered person," or "Chaz Bono, formerly a woman but now a man." And all the little children will watch the performance, then watch whoever comes on next. And not get violent because of this appearance on a program very few people watch [even if it gets good ratings, which only indicates a percentage of the people actually watching anything on TV at that time, not the entire population].
I would hope that will be the case
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:04pm.
But TV is about marketing, and I think that unless Bono objects, they will at least do a before-and-after intro like, "You first met him years ago on the Sonny & Cher show (photo of Sonny next to Cher holding Chastity in her arms), and now he's competing on here tonight with dance partner Jane Doe. Let's have a warm welcome for Chaz Bono."
As a self-appointed transgender activitist, Bono may actually prefer this way, and the producers, in their PC-ness stitched to their impulsive freak show nature, may push for it.
I do not care
Submitted by richb313 on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:04am.
I do not care that Chaz Bono is Transgendered or a turtle, it does not affect me in any way. At the same time the constant glorification is also worrisome. Why can't it just be nobodys business. It does not comport with my own personal beliefs but I am not the moral or thought police for anyone else. That is between them and thier maker.
Morals cannot be legislated and we should not even try. The way to make a moral difference is in what you do, not what others do. If there were enough moral people it would not be necessary to have this conversation.
Lead by example. Do the right thing and be an example to others. That is the only way to recover our morals as a country. The left will always push the boundries of decency but if in our own lives we show the results of a moral life it will not be necessary to preach or legislate these things.
I feel sorry for C Bono because that person will never find any happiness and will probably end up alone and bitter in a self made prison of hate and despair. Pity that person who has no real sense of identity and seems constantly in need of finding one.
Forget about the shim, Bono,
Submitted by jessieH on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 11:21am.
Forget about the shim, Bono, being on the show. The show is NEVER on, in my house. I think it sucks and the station sucks.
well, Fox has
Submitted by misterbee241 on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:30pm.
Geraldo, Bob Bickel and now Megan Kelly. I've always respected her because she used to stand up to liberals about what's right. but now i guess i'll be rethinking that.
She hasn't changed a bit.
Submitted by cjk on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 12:35pm.
Miss Bono, although clearly mutilated, hasn't changed at all. SHE is and always will be XX genetically. SHE doesn't even consist of even one SINGLE XY cell.
The problem is that what
Submitted by redfish on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:02pm.
The problem is that what Megyn Kelly said is classic double talk :
She said that its nonsense to argue without evidence that promoting a certain view of gender will influence children to see themselves as transgender --
---but she herself is claiming, without any evidence, that Ablow's views will influence people to become bigots.
Is Ms. Kelley encouraging people to be hateful towards Keith Ablow?
Oh that's just excellent!
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:10pm.
GREAT point.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
www.theconservativereview.com
Pithy Comment
Submitted by Schofield Kid on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 5:08pm.
As O'Really would say, that's a pretty pithy comment and right to the heart of the matter. You should submit that to his email, and be sure to make some pandering remark about one of his books so you can get a signed copy!
Script already written*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 5:24pm.
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0005620/bio
That was a quick bust
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 5:44pm.
I think I need to mail you a pair of the troll-killing stilletos, caj.
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I did last night, although I
Submitted by redfish on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 5:35pm.
I did last night, although I didn't follow up with the last question, asking about whether she is encouraging hate.
Brilliant, redfish
Submitted by nkviking75 on Sat, 09/17/2011 - 12:29am.
Brilliant, redfish! I would also ask if there's any real evidence that people are transgendered. I've always thought people who get the surgery allow themselves to become science experiments,
“Always love your country — but never trust your government!" -- Bob Novak (1931-2009)
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Oh Bill...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:03pm.
...Megyn's drinking the kool-aid again!
[tattletale]
Bill then says: "Megyn... Didn't anyone tell you that that stuff's not good for you?"
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Y'all lighten up on Megyn Kelly
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:11pm.
I mean, she just had a baby.
LOL - Maybe her hormones are still a little out-of-whack.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
She has been much more "edgy"
Submitted by d1carter on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 3:10pm.
She has been much more "edgy" since returning. I just thought it was having to come back to work...?
Ms Kelly was right and wrong*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:14pm.
Ms Kelly's arguments left out several important issues.
First, inciting people prone to violence is not a simple issue. There are two responses for ordinary humans to perceived threat. Flight or fight. Some people who are aggressive and prone to violence will become violent at the slightest provocation ie the McDonalds incident she brought up. The "victim" of that assault was a perceived threat to two women who did not want a man in their bathroom. When provoked, those two women reacted according to their "normal" behavior based upon their "normal" enviornment. Notice, the "victim" never fought back. Society has not yet been able to "accomodate" those who are openly transgender and I mean simply good manners. Should we be building 3 bathrooms in every McDonalds? would have been a good question. We are already telling McDonalds and other aspects of our society what to serve, what to eat, what to wear, where to pray, when to wave a flag, whats civil and what isnt.
Secondly, Dr Ablow was trying to distinquish between the "celebrity" of the transgender process and the current homosexual agenda sweeping the country and media rehtoric. The transgender process, both medical and psychological is more in line with his profession than hers. She made herself look more emotional and less intellectual by demeaning Dr Ablow's opinions on the subject. Again, transgender is a "new" agenda in our society partly due to the "openess" of homosexuality and advances in medical and psychological treatments for those seeking a "new" identity. Again, Dr Ablow is more prepared to discuss this view of the subject than Ms Kelly.
Third, the argument is once again what is to be introduced to our children. Parents should be the ones to decide what our children should be exposed to in and out of the home. We have an Education Czar pushing the gay agenda into our elementary schools already. Sometimes at the cost of reading and writing as evidenced by the historic lows in student test scores. Our educational system has become more of a social networking for certain agendas rather than the intended sole purpose of "education" of our children.
Again, I do not believe that a transgender person will incite violence against others like Chaz. Those prone to violence already find excuses. Look at recent events with the unions in Washington, Michigan, NY verizon strikers, growing "flash mobs". They have been given" permission" to express their already existing tendency to violence by Union leaders and race baiters. Normal, rational, law abiding citizens do not normally use violence to express their opposition. We have protests, petitions, elections, lawsuits, and of course, the new TEA Party. The TEA Party, regardless of name calling, has yet to show any single episode of violence at their gatherings yet have been demonized as violent barbarians. Which basically is what Ms Kelly was doing. Criticizing a group of people who disagree by the far reaching "anti homosexuality" will lead to violent hate crimes.
An emotional response based on ideology, not an intellectual debate on substantive and important issues.
Question is
Submitted by panzerakc on Sat, 09/17/2011 - 2:22am.
would that third bathroom at McDonalds be "Other" or "None of the Above"?
well panz*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 09/17/2011 - 2:30am.
You were the only poster to catch my joke...;-)
cajun---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 09/17/2011 - 3:34am.
I noted your quip, but I got to thinking how badly the federal government would mess things up once they started laying down the rules delineating who could legally go into which bathroom.
Gave myself a headache. :o)
MD
Got it Matthew*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 1:17pm.
That was my joke. Can't you see a large commission established to review the "3 bathroom" issue? On the commission would be Rosie O'Donnell, Rue Paul, NOW, NAMBLA, ACLU, DHHS, and of course, HOMELAND SECURITY represented by BIg Sis....LOL
Megyn, You Are Still Hot But Here's a News Flash...
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:14pm.
You can't get syphillis from a toilet seat either.
Now, I want you to quit kow-towing to whatever libutard just told you he thought you were hot and get back on your "A" game, sister!
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Looks like we have another Shepard Smith
Submitted by Marcus Porcius on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:22pm.
I used to like Shepard Smith until he hit ground in New Orleans after Katrina and started screeching like a little girl about Bush and "how come the federal government isn't here yet" crap.
It takes one little pet liberal cause to break their facade, and then the hack comes pouring out.
I'm sure MSNBC would love to have "Ms." Kelly.
"Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions." G.K. Chesterton
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MSNBC doesn't have a heterosexual woman on any primetime show
Submitted by Red Jeep on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:44pm.
.
Are Lesbians More Liberal?
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:52pm.
Am I a racist and a hater for asking this?
I just want to know if MSLSD has found some secret code to the Universe in determining how to select their on-air psychopaths...
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Ever meet anybody less tolerant than a "liberal"...??
Submitted by IdahoJim on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:27pm.
Or more closed minded?
IdahoJim
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intolerance is not necessarily a bad thing
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 1:02am.
Parents one would think are intolerant of punks trying to hook their children on drugs. One would hope they'd be equally as intolerant of public schools preaching socialism and breaking down their children's moral upbringing by confusing the issue about homosexuality and forcing kids to accept it as a ligitimate style.
Freedom of Speech
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 09/18/2011 - 1:06am.
Jackie Kennedy was no racist and no one in the media treats her as anything but a woman of high liberal "values. Although she said some pretty harsh words about lesbians in those released tapes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2037162/Jackie-Kennedy-tapes-L...
If Ms Bono
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 1:59pm.
If miss chaz would spend as much time trying to lose weight as he/she/it does trying to be a man, then she would just be an unattractive lesbian....and no one would care.
Silence is golden
Submitted by ruby2ssday on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 2:05pm.
If we would all just shut up and do what the enlightened Mr. Obama wants life would just be wonderful. No more having to work. Someone else to pay the mortgage. Free health care for all. More pension benefits for government and union retirees. No need to travel to work or pleasure. No more evil hunting and fishing. No more upsetting news reports. Wealth based taxes to eliminate wealth. No heat or light in our homes. Freedom to donate tainted blood so that everyone can enjoy aids. Free reeducation for conservatives. Criminals with get out of jail free cards. No criminal jail sentences longer than 30 days. Staunch conservatives in jail for life (exception to previous rule). Death sentence for all Bush appointees. It just doesn't get any better than that, does it? With all this coming our way I just can't help of remembering the opening half of Dr. Zhivago when he has to donate 3/4 of his private home to party members, and then work in dingy worn out hospitals for no pay. Boy, I just can't wait.
Megyn Kelly .....A female version of Shepard Smith?
Submitted by Rush Fan on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 4:06pm.
It's not just her latest tiff with Dr. Keith Ablow, that I watched live at the time. I was a regular viewer of Megyn Kelly's two hour show (while listening to Rush Limbaugh on the radio at the same time) and even sent her an email congratulating her when she put Kirsten Powers in her place over the Black Panthers polling incident.
But I've watched her with disappointment as she transformed into a female Shepard Smith. For example, when she has a representative from the Right and the Left on discussing an issue, I've noticed that she often restates and attempts to clarify unnecessarily the position of her guest on the Left when posing a question to her guest on the Right. In actuality, making it two on the Left against one on the Right.
I don't believe there is any question that the Leftist media promotes homosexuality and attempts to re-educate and promote that lifestyle to our youth, starting as early as kindergarten. On that note, look for California to be the first state to pass transgender marriage in the near future
By the way, "Fair and Balanced" is overrated. Personally, I'm not interested in listening to an Alan Colmes, Bob Beckel, Juan Williams or any other Lefty spewing banalities ad nauseum. I'm looking forward to the day we have a television network on the Right similar to what MESSNBC has on the Left. No Lefties allowed.
It's a show with sequins & spray on tans, right?
Submitted by felizagain on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 4:12pm.
Spray on tans, sequins, spandex, D & E & F List Celebrities, and in this case, the child of a celebrity, trying to dance, and we, the audience watching, waiting for them to mess up, i.e., fall down, split their pants, drop a partner, etc. It's a show w/glitter and nonsense, and silly judges, and that's all. This is not the United Nations, Congress, etc. It's a show which wants desperately to get YOU to watch - to cheer or jeer. No different than when they had on Paul McCartney's dreaded ex-wife w/a disability, Marlee Matlin who is deaf, Kirstie Alley who was very overweight, they like to have the 'gotcha' celebrity each season - Chaz Bono is that person this year.
Ratings, it is all about generating buzz, and getting ratings. Period. ABC and DWTS sees only one thing: green. Ka-Ching,more controversy, more attention, more free PR, more ratings! It is working.
Megyn is giving her opinion, silly as it may be.
Equating a dissenting opinion will not equal violence.
If that were the case, the US Congress would ban a lot of rap music. The State of California would ban a lot of
spanish language tv w/very stereotypical gay characters in novelas and moves every day - not at all USA-PC.
That isn't happening, and both those areas promote old stereotypes, which can be hurtful.
Disliking Chaz Bono on DWTS is an opinion.
It will no more result in (the rare) assault on a gay person, then saying you don't like Michelle Bachman will result in
an assault on a conservative. If you say get them in your crosshairs......like Obama did about targeting GOP, is that
a call to violence? Keep the barbarians at the gate, like Biden said, is that a call for violence?
I'd rather have people say something, utter a thought, than just hold it in.
Chaz will make money off of this show. His profile will go up.Cher will get on tv shows to tell us how tolerant she is.
Please recall Chaz herself wrote Mom was anything but happy and tolerant w/her coming out as a teenager.....she was the exact opposite. Was that promoting violence? No.
I may not like Chaz Bono on the show - it may make a parent have a talk w/their school age kid about what transgender means, when they're like 6.......it may bring out gay rights groups....ok, that's all possible, good and bad. That's a legitimate concern if you thought the show was all about family entertainment.
It is about ratings and money. Period. Not family values or Obama or Perry or Romney or Clinton. Ratings and money. They would put a monkey on if they thought it would get ratings, they want money. Period.
You can show your displeasure by doing one thing tv executives hate: turn the channel.
You can do the same thing to Megyn Kelly, turn the channel, or turn her off.
Memo to Fox News: You can hire a female anchor who is not blonde. They do exist.
Fox could hire Chaz
Submitted by Rackie on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 4:57pm.
and cover all the protected classes - with a little native American thrown in for good measure.
....
Submitted by BTW Biological ... on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 5:47pm.
I don't know about all that, but I didnt get Ablow's column about Chaz. When Bristol was on it didnt cause girls to get pregnant. People should know that dwts only cast the lastet tabloid headline. Next year it will be someone else.
dont know cb dont care
Submitted by RD King on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 7:22pm.
does trans gender mean faggot if so then just say faggot. osamabinBhusseinobamster already has the blacks, mussys and illegal mex sicans rioting against America so what else is new. That rainbow coalition will pay the price for using the LORDS contract with Noah for an abomination in the end.
I guess
Submitted by Emma Grump on Fri, 09/16/2011 - 8:45pm.
I'm sure that eventually, some wacko will claim he feels like a chimpanzee trapped in a human body, and if species-altering technology exists, he will definitely get his operation, and the media will spout how we should embrace this brave new world, how anyone who resents this ape will be branded a chimp-o-phobe.