Daily Kos: Sadistic, Puritan America Will Elect Rick Perry in 2012
Leftists are growing increasingly pessimistic about the political direction of America, which means a “neo-fascist future” is right around the corner again. On the Daily Kos, Ray Pensador explained Tuesday his theory on “Why Rick Perry Is Likely to Win the Presidency in 2012.”
Liberals, he complained, think that merely exposing and criticizing “statements and actions of the crazy, loony right...is somehow enough to convince others about the wrongness of these things.” That’s totally wrong, writes Pensador, because America is a deeply sadistic pile of Puritans that live about five minutes away from our deepest historical atrocities:
This activity springs from the faulty assumption widely shared by the Left, that our perception of reality based on logic, reason, science, empirical evidence, and willingness to compromise, is an attitude widely shared by society at large. This attitude, at the end, will be one of the main reasons the country continued its march toward a neo-fascist future under the total control of corporations and religious fundamentalists.
The great satirist, comedian, and social commentator Bill Maher has touched on this subject, pointing out that "a majority of Americans cannot name a single branch of government or explain what the Bill of Rights is; 24 percent cannot name the country America fought in the revolutionary war; nearly half of Americans don't know that states have two senators; 18 percent believe that the sun revolves around the earth." And only 39 percent believe in evolution...
Pensador complained the average liberal has an underdeveloped sense of empathy because "the majority of them live comfortable middle- or upper-middle class lives, and other influences like the seemingly omniscient propagandist effect of the corporate-owned media." If the corporate media were so powerful, how did Obama get elected again? But wait, here's the long version of how America's sadistic puritan majority cannot be trusted:
Have you ever seen those pictures of hundreds (sometime thousands) of people smiling, celebrating, posing to be photographed, at the site of a lynching? In historical terms those things happened "yesterday." Only a few decades ago.
There is a strong legacy of puritanism in the American culture. There is a strong legacy of atrocities, of the enslavement and extermination of millions of people, of the appropriation of other people's land and property, of cruelty, of unimaginable greed.
Yes, this could be said about many other countries, and it takes generations for a country to cleanse itself from those abominations, but again, as a country we are very young, and many of those atrocities happened only a few decades ago.
And therefore that cultural legacy has not gone away completely.
Today, in 2011, there are millions and millions of people in the United States that harbor a deep-seeded hate for what they consider to be minorities, immigrants, and for people who advocate for concepts of social justice and equality for all.
These people hold a twisted sense of piety that revolves around the concept that God will bless His followers with richness and good fortune, and will punish the sinner with poverty, disease, and despair.
They see the concept of equality and justice, and compassion, as advocated by Liberals and Progressives, as interference with God's will.
In that sense, there is a certain proclivity towards sadism. There is a certain satisfaction is seeing the suffering of those who they consider unworthy, lazy, sinful. In their eyes, and again, richness and prosperity are the results of piety, and poverty and suffering, the result of debauchery.
So in their twisted minds they tend to see the very wealthy almost as demi-gods. Hence their adoration of the rich. They aspire to one day be like the super rich, and even thought they know it's very difficult, they like it like that because it should not be easy to get to that level of demi-god, of abundant blessings.
That's the sadistic part. They themselves believe they have it in them to get there and they will do it purportedly with their own effort, sturdiness, and work and grit. An therefore, everybody else should try to do it the same way. That's the puritanical influence in the collective psyche.
This whole article underscores why it's comical that the followers of that "great social commentator" Bill Maher are somehow so much smarter than the Palin backers. Brainier liberals surely back away from bilge like this.
Earlier from Pensador: Only We Liberals Ara Sane, and Believe in Freedom, Justice, Science and Evidence
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Do these terminally stupid
Submitted by rbosque on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:18pm.
Do these terminally stupid people even know what "fascism" means?
They can quickly find out if they stop ignoring what Obama did to GM, what he's doing to our healthcare and what he's trying to do to Boeing.
hey...
Submitted by retrocon on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 6:55pm.
keep in mind, liberals thrive on the idea of a benevolent dictator.
They want one, or a small number of, ivy leaguers telling us what to do, cause there sooooo smart and benevolent.
What a crock of pure
Submitted by nonncom on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:21pm.
unadulterated bullshit....LOL....
I kinda like the sound of.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:22pm.
"sadistic, Puritan America". It has way more appeal to me than "Godless, communist America". :-)
Or frriggin' ungodly,
Submitted by Rowane on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 10:35pm.
Or frriggin' ungodly, islamic, headchoppers.
You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. (Aaron Tippin)
As usual they attribute the
Submitted by tcm14 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:33pm.
As usual they attribute the wrong reason to our beliefs. Their way has been proven throughout history to destroy nations. That is why we disagree with them, All that other psychobabble is just nonsense.
This clearly illustrate the
Submitted by ThePickle on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:49pm.
This clearly illustrate the difference between Conservative and Liberal.
While we Conservatives may vehemently disagree with Liberal positions we...for the most part...do not try to paint them as malevolent, just wrongheaded.
Liberals on the other hand are quick to slap the moniker of "evil" on those that dare disagree with them. Conservatives are not allowed to simply disagree....we MUST have some sinister agenda that will included re-enslaving blacks, putting the little lady back into the kitchen pregnant and bare footed and generally turning back the social clock by between 50 and 100 years.
Conservatives generally think that Liberals are wrong.
Liberals generally seem to think that Conservatives are "EVIL".
Pardon the interruption, Pickle...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 8:52pm.
But you haven't read very many of the comments here or at other conservative websites, have you? Nothing personal, but your "wrong vs. evil" observation is one of the more stunning misstatements I've encountered in a long, long time.
Jer
Concur with Jer
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:00pm.
I would agree with Jer. As a conservative, I think that what Obama and his policies have done to America is not only wrong, but also evil.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
If one read the words written
Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:22am.
If one read the words written one can see that I have qualified my statement with the words "for the most part" and "generally" .....while you could pick and choose individual statements that refute the claim I still believe that the majority of us that call ourselves Conservatives feel as I have described, that being, that Liberals, while glaringly wrong on a myriad of topics, are not necessarily "evil".
One needs to look beyond the Internet and realize that those that choose to participate in these lively political forums constitute only a small, yet admittedly vocal, minority of Conservatives and in no way shape or form represent anyones "brand" of Conservatism but their own.
Your experiences are just that, your experiences and in no way constitute "the way it is". While I can readily agree that there are "Conservatives" out their that do not feel the way I do, you on the other hand seem to be unable to even conceive of a world wherein ALL "Conservatives" are NOT frothing at the mouth attack dogs, snarling and tugging at the chain, waiting to be released to wreck havoc on the "evil minions" of the Liberal Left.
I understand your point, Pickle...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:16pm.
but if I am unable to conceive of that world wherein ALL "Conservatives" are NOT frothing at the mouth attack dogs, etc., then why in the world would Ronald Reagan be my favorite President?...or the late William F. Buckley, Jr and the very much alive George Will be my favorite political pundits? And I also admire conservatives such as David Brooks, David Frum, Peggy Noonan...you know, the ones "true" conservatives dismiss as RINOs.
I am interested in your response to the following: Do you agree with Rush Limbaugh that liberalism is a "mental disease"?...that Democrats are not just "opponents" but "the enemy"?...that the liberals running the country are "evil". I could be wrong--and would welcome being proved so--but I believe the vast majority of Rush's audience agrees with him.
Here is a summary of Limbaugh's assessment of the "evil" nature of this nation's liberal leaders and a video excerpt of his "enemies" accusation. [I apologize for the MediaMatters sourcing and if you honestly think Rush did not say what is indicated, I'll try to locate the transcript.]:
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Then Rush got back to the caller from the previous hour. The caller explained how he thought liberals had good intentions, and weren't purposefully trying to wreck things like Rush argued. Rush obviously disagreed:
LIMBAUGH: The people that run our country now have a much closer proximity and are much closer to the world's tyrants and dictators than they are closer to the people who founded the country. This is not accidental; they have chosen it. This is the ideology that they have chosen. This is what's best for them.
But the caller continued to resist Rush's assertion that the people at the top of the system want to see the world burn. Rush would not be argued with:
LIMBAUGH: You're going to learn that they're not innocent idiots. They are dangerous, devious central planners who have designs on everybody's liberty and freedom. That's what matters most to them, because that's where they derive their power.
[...]
These people have purposely set groups of Americans against each other -- men versus women, black versus white, minority versus majority, it's gay versus straight. They've -- all by design, to create chaos, never contentment, never happy.
And this got Rush to explain why he thinks liberals are "evil":
LIMBAUGH: They don't dislike America. They dislike America as it was founded. They want to remake it and they want to rechange it -- or change it.
Rush went on to define "evil" and how it describes liberals. Rush said the people running the country are from a group of people that do no believe in the justness of the country's founding:
LIMBAUGH: And that to me, by the way, is evil. If we have people who want to take over the government of this country via elections for the purpose of remaking it and eliminating all of the institutions and traditions that made us great, then that's evil to me.
In the middle of that rant, Rush posited that if Democrats were serious about the employment crisis, they could cut the minimum wage for teenagers "in half," which will lead to more jobs. This led Rush to this conclusion:
LIMBAUGH: My point to you is they will not do what's best for this country and its people if it conflicts with their ideological desires. That to me is evil. That to me is not innocent, bumbling idiots. This is purposeful destruction.
After the break, Rush said an alternate theory for liberals repeating failed policies is "insanity." Then he read at length from an American Thinker piece about Obama's foreign policy.
source
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And the video.
Jer
let me help ya, Jer
Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:24pm.
complete transcript.
Thanks, kata...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:32pm.
Except that I was trying to edit my post when you responded. :-)
Anyway, Rush elaborates the point:
CALLER: Well, if it's not their intelligence, then what you've said to me is it translates to downright evil to want to destroy the best economic system all for the wants of power just sounds like just evil.
RUSH: (clapping) You got it.
CALLER: I mean do you think that they're evil?
RUSH: You got it. You got it. Another epiphany, and it didn't take you four more years, you got it in one call to the EIB Network. We are dealing with people who have -- and let's define evil in this case.
CALLER: Well, that's a good point, Rush, because, you know --
RUSH: Well, let me --
CALLER: -- in Eastern societies --
RUSH: Let me define it. Let me define evil for you, as I mean it here because this is one of these things that could end up being a Media Tweak, they'll hear me, "Oh, they're evil, I'm going to applaud you, they are evil," and that's going to be all over the cable networks.
CALLER: Yeah.
RUSH: Let me define it for you. Let's make it simple. Let's say that America is made up of basically two groups of people, and both groups are represented by leaders that seek to win power to implement their ideas. The people who are running the country now are from a group that does not believe in the justness of the founding of this country. They are adamantly opposed to the way the country was founded. They believe the country was founded by white Eurocentric racists, sexists, bigots, colonialists and imperialists. They believe that the United States' superpower status militarily and economically is the greatest threat to world peace and the climate and so forth. And their job, as they see it -- they don't have a love for this country as the people on the other side do who cherish the founding, who cherish the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and understand what it is, understand that the greatness of this country is due to the freedom of its people to be and do whatever they wish to the best of their ability. That is anathema to them. They think that has led to an unjust and immoral country with racism and bigotry, the majority tromping all over the minority every day since we've been founded and it's something they must fix, they must fix. They don't dislike America. They dislike America as it was founded. They want to remake it and they want to change it.
CALLER: I think it's an important point in --
RUSH: And that, to me, by the way, is evil. If we have people who want to take over the government of this country, via elections, for the purpose of remaking it and eliminating all of the institutions and traditions that made --
CALLER: Progress --
RUSH: Then that's evil to me.
Jer
Sorry Jer
Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:35pm.
Although I see some discrepancies in the editing between your version and the transcript.
Aw well. Now we have the original, yes?
Do the discepancies alter the central point?
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:43pm.
That is, that he is calling liberal leaders "evil"? [I am sure conservatives believe he provides an outstanding rationalization for its application. It's the same way many liberals react when someone defends calling conservatives "evil".]
Jer
*shrug*
Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:50pm.
I would think you'd want your source material to be accurate before establishing a point. I don't listen to Rush very often. 10 min here and there in the car on the way to the store. I am not commited to this argument, I am just a fan of the truth.
Leaders desire power. You know what they say about power.
You're absolutely right, kata...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:07pm.
That's why I asked if the editing deviations affected the central point of the argument. I am surprised you have no opinion on Pickle's allegations. The issue is an important one and lies at the heart of the current deep ideological divisions in the country and the public disaffection with disharmony and gridlock in Washington.
Jer
because I know
Submitted by kata on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:24pm.
it will eventually devolve into a discussion on what is evil. (and while I type this The Vet has already posted the definition. lol)
My political views don't fall on a party line and I am not a religious person so my own viewpoint isn't simplistic and can't be boiled down into a few sentences. Somehow I don't think you really care to get to know me as a person :) and that's ok!
That's an odd statement, kata...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 7:06pm.
I'd love to get to know you as a person.
Jer
edited to correct typo
Why do you allow yourself to be tweaked like this?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:22pm.
This is the second time Mr. Limbaugh specifically said tweak and you got, well, tweaked. ...end up being a Media Tweak...
The man did not refer to the traditional definition of evil. He did not. Repeat. Did not. Repeat. He did not refer to the dictionary definition of evil. Repeat. Oh this could go on for days. Did Did Did NOT.
evil: 1a: morally reprehensible : sinful, wicked <an evil impulse> b: arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct <a person of evil reputation
Rush Limbaugh's definition as presented by Rush Limbaugh ---
RUSH: Let me define it for you......does not believe in the justness of the founding of this country...opposed to the way the country was founded...country was founded by white Eurocentric racists, sexists, bigots, colonialists and imperialists...believe that the United States' superpower status militarily and economically is the greatest threat to world peace and the climate ...don't have a love for this country ...think that has led to an unjust and immoral country with racism and bigotry, the majority tromping all over the minority every day since we've been founded and it's something they must fix, they must fix...dislike America as it was founded. They want to remake it and they want to change it.
RUSH: ...that, to me...is evil. ...people who want to take over the government of this country, via elections, for the purpose of remaking it and eliminating all of the institutions and traditions that made --
RUSH: Then that's evil to me
Soon to be President Obama: “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America”
What do you think the man meant?
Vet...I'm well aware of Rush's "media tweaking"
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:12pm.
scams which he hides behind. It's absolutely meaningless to me. [Watch this folks...I'm gonna say something really provocative now and the media is going to fall for it. Just wait and see. They won't get it. I'll make the drive-bys look foolish again.].
Rush's definition of evil involves a rejection of the principles on which America was founded and a dislike for this "unjust and immoral" country. It is an accusation of a lack of patriotism which borders on a charge of treason [which in fact Rush has claimed Democrats to be guilty of in the past]. In my book, that is indeed alleging "morally reprehensible" i.e. "evil" behavior.
Jer
Oh I get it now.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:19pm.
Uncle Jer: ...definition of evil involves a rejection of the principles on which America was founded...
Soon to be President Obama: “We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America”
Dude. Tweaked. So tweaked.
No you don't, Dude....
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:31pm.
Not...tweaked...in...the...least.
And why did you omit the rest of Rush's definition which I quoted?
Jer
Well let's correct that little mistake.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:44pm.
Uncle Jer the tweaked: ...and a dislike for this "unjust and immoral" country...
Mr. Obama told the French (the French!) that America "has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive" toward Europe. In Prague, he said America has "a moral responsibility to act" on arms control because only the U.S. had "used a nuclear weapon." In London, he said that decisions about the world financial system were no longer made by "just Roosevelt and Churchill sitting in a room with a brandy" -- as if that were a bad thing. And in Latin America, he said the U.S. had not "pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors" because we "failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas."
Mr. Obama makes it seem as though there is moral equivalence between America and its adversaries and assumes that if he confesses America's sins, other nations will confess theirs and change. But he won no confessions (let alone change) from the leaders of Venezuela, Nicaragua or Russia. He apologized for America and our adversaries rejoiced. Fidel Castro isn't easing up on Cuban repression, but he is preparing to take advantage of Mr. Obama's policy shifts.
Blaming America for the world financial crisis led him to give into European demands for crackdowns on tax havens and hedge funds. Neither had much to do with the credit crisis. Saying that America's relationship with Russia "has been allowed to drift" led the president to push for arms negotiations. But that draws attention away from America's real problems with Russia: its invasion of Georgia last summer, its bullying of Ukraine, its refusal to join in pressuring Iran to give up its nuclear ambitions, and its threats of retaliation against the Poles, Balts and Czechs for standing with the U.S. on missile defense.
My bad. My so very very bad.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:58pm.
Uncle Jer spazzin' and tweakin': ...a dislike for this "unjust and immoral" country...
Turns out the President and his wife are proud of the country and don't feel it was unjust and immoral until they arrived on the scene.
Oh wait....
Dude. This road.... You can't win. Not me. It is not me. It is two things.
1. You are arguing with a man that gets $400 million dollars. They don't pay that to chumps on the street. The man has half his brain tied behind his back fer heaven's sake. I just squeeze off a tenth.
2. You cannot ever. ever. ever. explain what the man meant when he said he was going to FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM this country. You can't. No one has. You won't even try.
And the video excerpt
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:35pm.
which I mentioned. [Maybe you have the complete transcript to that also.]
Jer
Interesting Jer*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:38pm.
The transcript of Rush that you posted has content very similar to a comment I just posted on another thread. I am not a big follower of Rush but confess I agree with much of his views.
I dont believe that liberalism is a mental illness but their methods of instituting their ideology does imply an "illness". The end justifies the means, an unrealistic vision of their Utopia is the goal. Using the re-definition of terms and beliefs, group think, putting cultures and races in "groups", spreading their agenda through distortion of events and beliefs, has been done before and can be described as "EVIL". Destroy Christianity is necessary in order to breed a society of no boundaries, no limits, include racial or group as enemies in order to create chaos. From that chaos, opportunity will arise for those who seek total power over all "individuals" freedoms and liberties will disappear.
If people are not educated enough to see that these same political steps and ideology has occurred before in world history is a strong indication to me that we are indeed headed for a repeat.
Being a great fan of science fiction, I am now looking forward to someone inventing a Time Machine.
It is interesting, cajun...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:48pm.
The liberal Rick Perlstein has deconstructed conservatism in much the same fashion and just as compellingly and persuasively to those who agree with him. But of course conservatives believe Perlstein is not just wrong, but evil and mentally diseased as well. :-)
This same stuff just keeps on going around and around in opposite directions.
Jer
Transcript?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:57pm.
Where is the transcript with commentary of Mr. Perlstein's compelling persuasive deconstruction of conservatism that is not just wrong or evil or mentally diseased and just nothing but a transcript that shows the man's voice without some smarmy smartass comments thrown in between Mr Perlstein's transcriptions.
Man, I would love to see that. Really, I would. It is so fair to bring a bunch of quotes pulled out of a transcript of Mr. Perlstein mixed in with some unknown smartass comments mixed in.
Please. Please. Post that. It is only fair now. Mr. Perlstein and an unknown snit throwing comments in between what he said with no video or unaltered transcript available.
Please. We await in eager anticipation that transcript. It is the fair thing to do.
Simmer down, Vet...it's not just a single transcript
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:16pm.
Perlstein has written numerous articles on the subject--in the Washington Post, The New Republic, Mother Jones, Slate, Salon, etc., as well as a couple of books, and has been challenged by many conservatives such as Jonah Goldberg and George Will.
Jer
I will not simma down nah.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:33pm.
I refuse to simma down nah when that is one of the most utterly contemptible ways of presenting Mr. Limbaugh's quotes I have seen in a long time.
I dare you sir to present the same quotes from Mr. Pearlhandledtushiein the same way.
I dare you sir!
I implore you to simmer down, Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 3:26pm.
My intent was to show Pickle that Rush has referred to liberals in more insidious terms that simply being "wrongheaded". Sometimes MediaMatters will post an uninterrupted transcript, other times video excerpts, and on some occasions transcript segments with interspersed smarmy remarks. I copied and pasted that piece just as it appeared at MM. If I had excised the smarmy interjections, then I would have been accused of altering the (secondary) source.
Would it help if I cited some sarcastic reactions to a Perlstein article? I would be more than happy to oblige.
Jer
No buddy.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 4:37pm.
I am just tweaking you. You are so easy. I will simma down nah.
Geez, Vet....
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 5:14pm.
I've had so much experience being the humiliated tweaking victim at the devious hand of my wife, you'd think I would know better by now.
I remain,
the still tweakable Uncle Jer
I am interested in your
Submitted by ThePickle on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 6:35pm.
I am interested in your response to the following: Do you agree with Rush Limbaugh that liberalism is a "mental disease"?...that Democrats are not just "opponents" but "the enemy"?...that the liberals running the country are "evil". I could be wrong--and would welcome being proved so--but I believe the vast majority of Rush's audience agrees with him.
And I would suggest that you would be guilty of forming an assumption that fits your own preconceived notions.
Your argument seems to consist of calling to mind the actions of a single person and then through the most nebulous of associations pinning the thoughts and feelings of that person on some 20 million other people.
I have never viewed political opponents as "the enemy" and as delusional as some liberals seem to be at times I do not consider "liberalism" to be a mental disorder. At worst I would say that most liberals are guilty of allowing "wishful thinking" to dictate their political views. That because they truly "believe" that something "could be" the way they envision it it naturally follows in their minds that it "should be" that way.
Rudyard Kiplings "The Road Song of the Bander Log" is how I envision most "liberals"
Here we sit in a branchy row,
Thinking of beautiful things we know;
Dreaming of deeds that we mean to do,
All complete, in a minute or two --
Something noble and grand and good,
Won by merely wishing we could.
Not exactly, Pickle...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 7:03pm.
It is my OPINION based on having been a semi-regular listener of Limbaugh's broadcasts during much of the 90's. As such, it is based on an assessment of empirical evidence leading to what I believe to be a reasonable conclusion, albeit one which I acknowledge could be, and hopefully is, erroneous. That said, what am I to make of the following assertion in your initial post which appears to reflect your own preconceived notion of liberals:
"...Conservatives are not allowed to simply disagree....we MUST have some sinister agenda that will included re-enslaving blacks, putting the little lady back into the kitchen pregnant and bare footed and generally turning back the social clock by between 50 and 100 years.
Conservatives generally think that Liberals are wrong.
Liberals generally seem to think that Conservatives are "EVIL".
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2011/09/02/daily-kos-sadistic-pu...
However, it is reassuring and refreshing to learn you disagree with Rush about liberals and liberalism at least in the areas under discussion.
BTW...love Kipling, and your Kipling quote. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to contemplate "something noble and grand and good..."
Jer
Amen
Submitted by MrLuigi on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:40pm.
Couldn't have said it better. If the fickle "independent" voters ever figure that out democrats will become an endangered species.
Guys
Submitted by John21 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:02pm.
It is the "Daily Kos" no one with credability, morals or a working brain pays any attention to those "Moonbats", why get upset by their (well known) stupidity. Can anyone remember when that site said anything close to intelligent? How about anything close to factual?
Just sit back and injoy the comedy routines, they will only get better as the realization that the world see's their hero and "incompatent" and "clueless".
Commentator
Submitted by stan25 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:07pm.
Why do these communist commentators keep on insisting that Nazis are right wing? Then to a far left winger, anything to the right of Josef Stalin is a conservative. I guess it stems from the propaganda that Stalin used during WW2. Any sane person that can read a dictionary knows that Nazi is an acronym for National Socialist. Socialists are generally left wing, not right wing.
How the NAZI Got Started As "Right Wingers"
Submitted by Avitar on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:55pm.
Before the end of democracy in Germany the International Communist (Stalinists) and the Patriotic Communists (NAZIs) in Germany's Parliament sat next to each other and fights would break out between them as to who was the most Communist. It was decided to put the German Royalist (the Old School) between them with the Communists on the left side and the NAZIs on the right side.
The only question they really disagreed on was praying to Moscow or Berlin. Of course after the war FDR's people insisted on Harvard!
Go to dailykos and read the comments for this article.......
Submitted by ShaLung on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:43pm.
the comments are really scary !!!! These people live in an alternate universe.
I sat there reading comments saying to myself...........
WHAT ?!?!.........Really ?!?!..........You've got to be kidding ?!?!?............Naahh ?!?!?.........you can't really believe that !?!?!
It seems every crime they are guilty of they blame us for.
If The Incompetents Did Not Run The DNC They Might Win.
Submitted by Avitar on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:44pm.
There are so few people in the DNC who can claim to be a personal success. It was very bad when we learned that so many of Obama's cabinet did not even own a car. They live like chickens in controlled environments. Like show dogs prizes are handed out to the leaders.
The American definition of an expert is someone who can make money predicting the outcome of events in his field. Economists like Paul Kurgman who should be judged on their success as experts but are instead handed prizes because they have the characteristics the judges want. In his case the NYT an academic committee or two and the Nobel committee. He should be able to make millions predicting how investments will fair if he were the expert he is represented to be.
Hey, Pensador.
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 5:13pm.
Those people in those " pictures of hundreds (sometime thousands) of people smiling, celebrating, posing to be photographed, at the site of a lynching" are what we today call "progressives", back in their day, they were just called democrats. If you insist on publishing something where it can be read by anyone who would want to, it would be good for you if you had some sense of what you were talking about.
But, our difference can be boiled down to a simple difference between you and yours, and us. You'd be allowed to post your tripe here, no problem, unless it was profane or personally attacked someone. At Kos, no one that hasn't drunk the Kool-Aid can post. And, if they manage to sneak one past the censors, it'll get removed by Markos and the rest of the Gestapo.
Point of View
Submitted by IrateNate on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 5:28pm.
I would like to think that we are not electing Perry as much as we are simply not reelecting Obama - under any circumstances whatsoever. You may take that any way you please, Ray.
For cryin' out loud, Ray. Get serious; who in their right mind would fall for the same lie twice?
Liberal Lies And Other Fictional Accounts
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 5:28pm.
The saying used to be "You can't make this stuff up, folks". But now that they do, you can't use that saying any more. Pity -- it used to be such a humorous lead-in line.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Another case of voter over-correction coming? God help us!
Submitted by lrgon on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 5:33pm.
When Clinton limped out of office the voters threw their hats in for Bush and he quickly outspent and outgrew the federal government beyond Slick Willy's wildest dreams.
Bush out did Clinton in the facist economy area with the Bush bailouts to Wall Street bankers. How quickly some forget that Bush was up to his eye balls in fascism (corporatism/ also called crony capitalism and welfare for the rich bankers).
Rbosque writes- "Do these terminally stupid people even know what "fascism" means?"
Well, to answer that obvious question. Yes they do. And so does Perry who has had his share of supporting crony capitalism in his state much to the chagrin of constitutionalists who pen these illuminating reports on perrywinkle Perry at their blog site: http://www.texasconservativereview.com/vol8n8.html
LA Times>>>http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-0816-perry-donors-20110816,0,6024689,full.story
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2011/09/02/daily-kos-sadistic-pu...
Good evening Irgon
Submitted by cocodrie on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 5:47pm.
Your post indicates to me that you have been wallowing in the cesspool again. You apparently are a moralphobe.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
So cocodrie you're telling us that Jesus
Submitted by lrgon on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:50pm.
loves people that spend other people's money as wastefully as possible?
Perry loves to play Texas hold 'em with the taxpayers' money by giving the state the largest Tax Increase in the Lone Star state's history according to the Dallas Monring News. Is the DM News "moral-phobes" too? And the Texans for Fiscal Responsibiltiy, they too are in your line of fire?
Facts are facts. And for you to defend this sinful behavior by using the same tactics as the liberals is darn right silly. We all know that Bush spent TRILLIONS and added to the burden of children not yet born with his irresponsible spending.
In your myopic way of looking at things the splinter that is prortruding from your pink eye ball like Pinnochio's nose is not to be noticed since your man Perry claims God is on his side?
Please pray for the children of America who will be forced to pay for the spending habits of the Bush's and the Perry's of this world who gather among them the christians to provide cover while they out liberal the liberals on their way to perdition.
The Lord said that those who refuse to recognize what is before their eyes are the blindest of them all.
Now comes Perry trying to outdo Bush on the religion thang. Perry is a big spender and texas for fiscal responsibility have the goods on him. You refuse to see?>>> http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/8714-rick-perry-and-the-la...
A Christain and a patriot does not allow himself to be used by the likes of Perry. He keeps himself informed and does not support any politician based on what he says but what he does. Perry's record in support of Liberal politics should cause many a Christian to shun him.
Irgon: Your source
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:34pm.
The site you linked states that this Gross Receipts tax in Texas is 10% of gross sales, yet every other website I read says it's either 1% or 0.7% or less. Is the website you linked the only accurate one on the internet? Why wouldn't every business located in Texas flee the state if they suddenly had to pony up a 10% tax on gross margins? What are the odds of Irgon actually answering any of these questions in a precise and accurate manner?
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
accuracy in media and Perry's record on taxes for Texans
Submitted by lrgon on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:03pm.
Accuracy in media depends on accuracy not on a majority. How many sites are there correcting the news bias and incorrect managed news spin? How many sites are there giving it to you straight regardless of partisan politics? Very few since one site or another tries to paint a pretty picture of their party and their candidate or hide their transgressions into the liberal side.
If you want accuracy thatis fine but if you want accuracy and a consensus before you believe any figures that don't line up with a preconceived notion that Perry is what you want him to be, then don't hold your breath waiting for that day.
Actual Form from the State of Texas
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 11:57am.
Here's your accuracy for you, Irgon: 2011 Texas Franchise Tax Report Information and Instructions, as posted by the State of Texas. Page 3 has the rates, which are 1% or less.
You can link as many whacked out web-blogs as you want that say the rate is 10%. As you say, accuracy, not numbers of crazy web-blog posts, is what matters.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
These lefty radical agitators
Submitted by celator on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 5:54pm.
These lefty radical agitators are really piling it high and wide on the Republicans, aren't they? Sounds like their sugar daddy, convicted felon George Soros, is worried his little game might be at risk if Perry wins the election.
considering the sadistic degenerate child molesters perverts are
Submitted by russedav on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 6:15pm.
the Daily Kos knows what they're talking about re sadism, but not a thing about Puritans, typical for these deranged, historically and biblically illiterate fools. As Reagan is to have said, they know so much that isn't so.
The psychotics desperately try to rationalize.
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 6:18pm.
In the coming election, everything and anything will be used against the eventual GOP candidate, no matter how untrue, violent or vulgar the rhetoric will become from the liberal side. This is tantamount to a declaration that they intend to stop at nothing.
In real terms, should I see this kind of threat coming from a patient, I would be obliged to report this.
Well Dr. Samuel Herman
Submitted by mandrake on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 6:36pm.
I believe there is a little thing called 'doctor, patient confidentiality' that would prevent you from 'reporting' this. But maybe standard medical ethics don't apply to you?
WOW
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:33pm.
You are sooooooooooo damn stupid. Never heard of Duty to Warn or Duty to Protect huh? Nevermind, I'm sure docsam will be back soon enough to show you what an idiot you are.
Dude, you really need to flip it around.
Submitted by mandrake on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:50pm.
Does not the same violent, vulgar rhetoric occur here against "liberals" every day. Call me crazy be I think it does.
BTW..maybe you have different rules in the USA,,but I would never trust a doctor who would release my medical records to anyone without my consent..maybe just one of those weird things about Canada.
There is a "duty to warn" law in every state.
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:57pm.
Not that mandrake the Canadian would have any idea of American medical practice law, but professional:client confidentiality is automatically canceled when the licensed professional has a a reasonable certitude that harm may be inflicted by the client to himself/herself or others. The same regulations, in different form, apply to all professions nearly everywhere in the world--including Canada. Who talked about releasing medical records? I talked about issuing a warning to the appropriate authorities as is my legal and professional responsibility.
And I will call you crazy, but that's my personal and not professional opinion.
mandrake---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 11:20pm.
Was your reference to doctor-patient relationships your one-a-day stupid post?
Do you believe that all the comments about liberals on these threads, that are, say, less than complimentary; are the product of nasty, mean, evil, treacherous conservatives; said comments having absolutely no bearing whatsoever on truth?
MD
Well it worked
Submitted by mandrake on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 8:03am.
I did get a good nights sleep :)
You really don't get OCD do you.
Actually, mandrake, being OCD---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:48pm.
Outside Canada's Domain, I get it far better than you do.
MD
Cool
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 9:26am.
So now a Canadian cannot comment on US politics. The VET would be proud..and I've got my stupid in for the day and it's not even lunchtime :) See ya tomorrow.
You dont hear us
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 9:48am.
Commenting on Canadian politics,,,,,
Thanks, but we dont need anymore hands in the till, Canada is getting more then their share now.
I have no idea what that means?
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 10:06am.
Are you suggesting that Canadians have our hands in your till? Jeez..we already send all our elders down to Florida and Arizona. What more do want?
Like we say, if you cant stand the cold then stay out of the refrigerator.
Send down the unproductive
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 10:15am.
When we send up Jobs? Not to mention undercutting our pharmaceutical companies.
Funny, you probably thought it was your socialist Gov that created the jobs/wealth up there, eh
No wonder you are commenting on US politics, instead of your own
Two points
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 10:28am.
1) The retired that go south have pensions..that means $$.
2) We have a conservative majority goverment here now..ever hear of Stephen Harper? Didn't think so.
Pentions?
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 11:09am.
Really? Sorry dude, that isnt enough. We need creators, not infiltrators.
Conservative majority? So,,, you trying to tell us that the conservative majority is going to put your health care system back in the privet sector, along with all of your municipal construction/bureaucracies. Are they actively trying to get the unions under control, and out of the public finances? When that starts happening, then we will talk about conservatism.
And we wonder why we are sliding into the crapper? Good grief
Oh, and I know who your "Prime" Minister is
It could be done
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 12:51pm.
Turning the health care system private could be done..just not all at once. A first step might be to allow some private clinics and hospitals not covered by the public to open. In fact I'm willing to bet that will be one of Harper's opening moves...if they ever get back to work.
Good,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 1:07pm.
Maybe there is a future conversation on conservatism between us. Hopefully, were not sliding into the abyss as you folks are emerging from it
And we don't care.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 11:13am.
We don't go to snowbilly websites and criticize aspects of snowbilly government, culture, or business.
Ever.
That's cause they don't exist
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 11:57am.
Or at least near as I can tell. This site is unique.
Once again, Amerian ingenuity prevails.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 12:57pm.
And the snowbilly admits the entire snowbilly culture is just one big leechfest sucking on the lifeblood of American ingenuity. Snowbillies invent nothing. They just create laws that make artificially low prices for American goods in showbillyland, thereby forcing American companies to charge Americans more to make up for the lost income.
Thanks for admitting your worthlessness snowbilly.
LOL!
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 1:02pm.
Love you too Vet! (see i filled in the subject line just for you)
This guy has his head screwed
Submitted by jessieH on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 10:58am.
This guy has his head screwed on backwards. Everyone knows who caused this fiasco. Congress. We have congressmen, calling Americans vile disgusting names. We have Congress, not balancing the budget, throwing the race card around, blaming everyone but themselves. We have a man in the White House, who dislikes America, almost to the point of hate. We have the media, who can't tell their asteric from a hole in the ground. Put them all together and we get screwed from every angle.
It's like I tell
Submitted by Bob K on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:21pm.
local liberals at my local papers website. After the next election we can look forward to all of you donning you cloaks of martyrdom and spending the next 4 or 8 years lamenting how the rest of us were just too stupid to know what was in our best interest. If only we had listened to you. LoL. And the county I live in is 98% white, so they really hate it when you refer to them as a guilty white liberals who are too embarrassed to admit their buyers remorse.
Bob K...4 or 8, huh?
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 11:38pm.
Can't help but notice the lack of certainty about a two-term GOP presidency.
Jer
MY 2 LAWS EXPLAIN ALL LIBERAL INSANITY !!!
Submitted by reelman46 on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 11:46am.
SCHEXNAYDER’S POLITICAL LAWS
LAW 1:
All the national democrats have are distractions, lies and smears to push or protect their secular socialist policies.
(toxic policies demand these tactics so they NATURALLY MUST use them daily.)
LAW 2:
The national democrats (aka SECULAR socialists) have no ethical or moral boundaries.
(so you should never be shocked by what they NATURALLY MUST say or do)
Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish<