Women's Magazine Pounds Megyn Kelly About Fox News Bias, Palin's Offenses Against 'Free Speech'
By Tim Graham | August 14, 2011 | 07:17
Via Mediaite, we learn Fox anchor Megyn Kelly granted an interview to the women’s magazine Marie Claire, but her interviewer, Yael Kohen, apparently never watches the media. Even after a huge cover spread and interview in Newsweek magazine, Yael sticks to an old (and false) liberal talking point in playing “gotcha” with Kelly, asking " I assume you believe in free speech. How do you feel about the fact that Sarah Palin doesn't talk to the press unless it's Fox News?"
Earth to Kohen: Palin, a private citizen, exercises free speech in deciding which interview proposals to accept. Kelly strongly suggested the question wasn't factual: "Well, I don't know if the premise of the question is correct, because she has talked to other outlets. I think there are certain outlets she doesn't like. And I think she thinks she's been treated unfairly by people in the press."
But the liberal interviewer persisted that Palin had to submit to liberal-media bombardment:
MARIE CLAIRE MAGAZINE: But isn't that part of the job? Isn't that what politicians have to do?
KELLY: I suppose so. If I were Sarah Palin, would I want to sit in an interview with someone who was secretly out to get me? Probably not. But as a journalist, do I want candidates to make themselves available to all of us? Yes, I do. I think it's a good idea.
Then Kohen became more direct in her aggression against Fox News:
MARIE CLAIRE MAGAZINE: Do you think that ideologues like Glenn Beck have harmed Fox's reputation as a legitimate source of unbiased news?
KELLY: If Fox had promoted Glenn Beck as a straight newsman who would be delivering the nightly update, like Bret Baier, then yes. But it was clear from the beginning — and it remains clear — that Glenn Beck is an opinion host. He doesn't report as a journalist and isn't making any attempt to be a journalist.
MARIE CLAIRE MAGAZINE: Do you think Fox is biased?
KELLY: No. Fox News covers stories that some other news outlets won't cover. We ask some questions that other news outlets wouldn't ask. And sometimes that's perceived as bias by people who've grown up in a world where there are only liberal outlets.
No one will find it surprising that this women’s magazine didn’t pound Mika Brzezinski about whether MSNBC was biased when she was interviewed earlier this year. Somehow, it never came up. But they suggested Kelly deserved being meat in Jon Stewart’s satire grinder:
MARIE CLAIRE MAGAZINE: He has called you out for being a hypocrite. For example, you challenged a guest who accused your network of using Nazi rhetoric in reference to Democrats. Then Stewart ran clips of your colleagues doing exactly that. Is he taking you out of context, or do you take his point?
KELLY: I had never said it didn't happen. My guest asserted that it happened every night on Fox News, and I said, "That's not true." And then Fox critics put words in my mouth and tried to criticize me for them. Jon Stewart definitely takes [things I say] out of context for humorous effect. And I think he would admit that. But it's really one of those can't-lose situations because every time he mocks me, it increases my visibility and bumps my ratings. So mock away!
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Megyn has it so cold over these idiots.
Submitted by acaiguana on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:24am.
And she knows it.
ACA
...
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Absolutely
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:55am.
She's an experienced attorney and media interviewer herself. Virtually any MSMer who tries to set her up is underpowered for the task.
naw, she's a hack.
Submitted by elvis on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 4:45pm.
with plenty of gotcha clips to prove it.
Whatever makes you feel
Submitted by NC Cop on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 4:46pm.
Whatever makes you feel better.
elvis
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:03pm.
A hack??? What party does she work for?
"A political hack is a negative term ascribed to a person who is part of the political party apparatus, but whose intentions are more aligned with victory than personal conviction. The term "hired gun" is often used in tandem to further describe the moral bankruptcy of the "hack"."
I think she's smart, and has convictions, which she relays with personal anecdotes. How that translates into a hack is beyond me!
Ronald Reagan
the party of her
Submitted by elvis on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:10pm.
She doesn't give a sh*t about ideals, she contradicts herself so much. She probably is really smart, and knows that her talking points are media driven bullshit. But that's her job and she makes loads of money.
elvis
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:57pm.
Hmmm, I've been watching her since before she got her own show, and I see her play devils advocate a lot, but she's consistent in her ideals. perhaps you are confusing her with someone else?
Ronald Reagan
nope
Submitted by elvis on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:28pm.
same meg
This is the internet
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:37pm.
Go find some examples, opinions dont mean much around here.
elvis
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:12pm.
Boudin is right - instead of dropping in to try to stir things up with unsubstantiated claims, please illustrate what I seem to have missed, thanks.
Ronald Reagan
uh oh,
Submitted by elvis on Tue, 08/16/2011 - 7:12am.
i'm losing them.. quick!
uh... I hate the gays too!
Go Megyn!
Submitted by GeneralAl on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:43am.
"But it's really one of those can't-lose situations because every time he mocks me, it increases my visibility and bumps my ratings. So mock away!"
Classic example of how to turn the liberal's weapons back onto them! Go Megyn!
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
I need an aspirin.
Submitted by Servo1969 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:46am.
"I assume you believe in free speech. How do you feel about the fact that Sarah Palin doesn't talk to the press unless it's Fox News?"
Ouch.
Trying to follow the "logic" behind that question hurt my brain.
Oh
Submitted by bmac32 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:56am.
Is Palin running for anything? How about when she says no it's turned into a maybe or might be. If the media would report rather than make news, but sadly they do not!
" I assume you believe in
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:15am.
" I assume you believe in free speech. How do you feel about the fact that Sarah Palin doesn't talk to the press unless it's Fox News?"
Free speech....hmmm......
I do not think it means what you think it means.... Inigo Montoya
MARIE CLAIRE MAGAZINE: But isn't that part of the job? Isn't that what politicians have to do?
Answer: Sarah Palin is NOT a politician.
THAT'S what Megyn should have said, instead of rebutting the claim that she's been Fox-exclusive.
Twisted Free speech logic
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:41am.
I would've responded the interviewer's question with this . . .
"If Marie Claire magazine believes in free speech, why do they sell it instead of giving it away?"
I wonder if the Dingbat has
Submitted by ant on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:06pm.
I wonder if the Dingbat has noticed Obama's 'transparency' when it comes to 'press meetings' and 'information'. According to her, O's right to free speech should include telling us everything he knew about Operation Gunrunner, his school records, etc..
Gotta love it....
Submitted by adamsmith on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:11am.
The lefties are using the same talking points over and over with nothing fresh. Character assassination is only so wide. Lately these "journOlists" come out with the same garbage that gets swatted aside by people on the Right like so many flies. Their propaganda doesn't work that well on their own brainwashed Moonbats anymore. There's the mentality of the left and then there is reality. Obama-"NO MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!"
This interview question leaped out at me:
Submitted by kareling on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:27am.
MARIE CLAIRE MAGAZINE: Do you think that ideologues like Glenn Beck have harmed Fox's reputation as a legitimate source of unbiased news?
Since when did liberals ever regard Fox as having a reputation as a legitimate source of unbiased news?
I call and raise
Submitted by Jerry Mack on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:38am.
I call MCM's bet with a Madcow and raise a Tingles the Racer!
My money is on Megyn.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:33am.
I don't think that these dim bulb liberals want anything to do with Megyn in a confrontation.
She will eat their lunch.
Besides she is sooooo much hotter than any of the leftie hammers!
Megyn Interviewing Mika...Wishful Thinking!
Submitted by gruyere cheese on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:37am.
Megyn can hold her grown when being interviewed or when having discussions with guests. I think anyone working at Fox already knows the opinion of the White House mouthpieces and so, they are not surprised of their treatment.
As for me, I would like to see Megyn interview Mika using the same flimsy, tiring, brainless, pointless questions they throw at anyone who is not a liberal! Now that would be entertainment!
Oh, that's mean!
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:35pm.
Mika would probably cry.
Other side of the coin
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 9:00am.
"How do you feel about the fact that Obama doesn't talk to the press unless it's not Fox News?"
You mean aside from the Fox interview?
Submitted by JackandMarilyn on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:06am.
Fear is at the heart of Palin's dismissal of all media not favorable to her beliefs. Conservative news treats her with kid gloves, only asking questions she's had pre-written answers to focusing instead on her small base of fans, her cheerleaders if you will. This is why she will stay out of the race. She knows she won't ever face CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN one on one, so she uses rightist news to prop her up. It's a house of cards ready to blow over come the next warm summer breeze.
Let me fix that for you
Submitted by falcon on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:26am.
"Fear is at the heart of Obama's dismissal of all media not favorable to his beliefs. Mainstream news treats him with kid gloves, only asking questions he's had pre-written answers to instead of on his small base of fans, his cheerleaders if you will. This is why he will lose by a landslide in November 2012. He knows he won't ever face Fox one on one, so he uses leftist news to prop him up. It's a house of cards ready to blow over come the next warm summer breeze."
FIFY. No charge.
“I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership, that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose.” – Ronald Reagan, July 17, 1980.
Selective memory
Submitted by JackandMarilyn on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:40am.
Are you talking about the Bret Baier interview or the Bill O'Reilly interview?
Are you two a team of trolls?
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:00pm.
Hope you've been sterilized. We don't need more trolls. The way the MSM talks, defers and genuflects when BO danes to be spoken to by an in the tank pseudo journalist, you really comment about whom Palin interviews with?
Our fearful leader, gives his interviewer questions or reviews and edits the questions before they will be asked. Get real. Can you?
It's NB's first gay troll wedding
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:09pm.
And be sure to throw the rice underhanded. :-)
-Dave
I'm sure that Boy Blah-Blah
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:05pm.
I'm sure that Boy Blah-Blah will NEVER do another interview with Baier, and I think Baier probably could have gone a lot deeper. And O'Reilly??? Get serious......................you've got two self-appointed ego-maniacs in the same room, each one trying to out-do the other.............and O'Reilly had his genuine Obama knee-pads on (for the secone time) in an effort to keep his ratings up, be 'fair and balanced',stay politically correct, and to continue his delusional idea that he is 'looking out for all of us'.................
Hell, the first time BOH sucked up to Barama was bad enough for me.................so I doubt that Barry was too worried about the second interview. And who's to say that the REGIME didn't give O'Reilly a list of topics and non-topics????
Your Two Brains Aren't Working.
Submitted by RefudiateObama2012 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:30am.
Your contention that Palin only answers pre-written question is without merit.
Your contention that Palin dismisses media not favorable to her is false. She speaks out against those who lie about what she says or does.
Palin is under contract with FNC which precludes her from studio appearances at other networks. On the first leg of her bus tour, she gave seventeen press avails, and according to the media which followed her, she gave candid and lengthy answers until they finally ran out of questions for her. At the Iowa fair, she talked to the scrum of media for over an hour. Don Lemon of CNN said she actually turned it into a press conference. In Long Island, she had a lengthy Q&A by an admitted Democratic moderator. She was recently interviewed by Newsweek. The meme that she doesn't talk to anyone other than Fox is a lie.
Obviously your two brains don't have the capacity to make honest or informed commentary.
Hi Cheerleader!
Submitted by JackandMarilyn on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:47am.
Give me an S! Give me an A! Give me an R! You get the point. Kindly show us an interview with someone, anyone, other than a known rightist outlet.
Hi
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:03pm.
Morons. MMM MMM good. How's that changee thing goin'? Unemployment high enough yet? Our debt up enough yet? Perhaps we need to fund a project on protecting the endangered smelt and kill more jobs in agriculture.
Why not just go crawl under that rock that Harry Reid craps on? No one buys your stupidity so shuffle off.
Kindly show us where she is required to.
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:03pm.
She is under no obligation to grant an interview to any media outlet. She can pick or choose.
Where is the relevant section of the constitution or in any federal statute that requires her to grant interviews to all who request? She is not a candidate for anything right now, and as a private citizen she has choices.
You got jumped by those Pesky Facts again...
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:04pm.
...didn't you?
Oops.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 138 (and Counting)
Still pissed about the bus tour I see...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:32pm.
...where she didn't tell the MSM where she was going to appear next (kind of like a private citizen) so they could get their ambushes prepared...
Missed the "interviews", eh Marilyn, conducted---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:18pm.
by K. Couric and the "ever so full of gravitas when I look down my nose and over my half-glasses at people" boob C. Gibson?
MD
Shut up, Zippers.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:19pm.
.
What else is there to say?
Submitted by Don L on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:24pm.
You've said it all - saved me from racking my brain as to which retort works best.
The question asked of Megyn was evidence itself of the midea bias -it was in fact a faux indictment!
Your argument
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:30am.
is the same reason Obama got elected. He was not only never asked a tough question, or pinned down to details of his plans, but his sphincter was licked by every alphabet network with a microphone. He admitted in his book that he smoked pot and did coke. Did you ever hear it brought up in an interview? They spent 8 years trying to find any "coke buddy" of George Bush. Would you consider that biased?
Tell me any liberal that gets tough questions EVERY time they are on any of the non-FNC outlets you listed and I'll grant your opinion to be valid. FNC presents a viewpoint different than any of them. A thinking person might consider it odd that of all those networks, NONE of them have a viewpoint any different from the rest.
News gathering used to be a very competitive business. Every paper, magazine or network wanted to separate themselves from their competition. They have since surrendered their position as Watchdogs of Freedom and taken the mantle of Lapdogs of the Democrat Party.
Logical fallacies, all aboard
Submitted by JackandMarilyn on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:50am.
So facts about Palin can only be considered valid if a liberal is asked a tough question by the "MSM?" Did Sarah Palin teach you her debating skills?
Wow
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:54am.
You must have been quite the debater in high school. Did you make it to Master Debater?
Krack and Moron
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:07pm.
They don't answer questions, just like their cheap suit messiah.
He's got the trophy
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:34pm.
To proove it
Phil---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:27pm.
Marilyn has been in a snit ever since someone here awarded Don Lemon the trifecta crown - Black, Gay, and liberal.
Marilyn, apparently, could only sign up for two of the three categories.
Now that's prejudice.
MD
He worked on a pier baiting
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:37pm.
He worked on a pier baiting hooks and made it all the way to master.
Try to answer the questions
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:04pm.
TROLLS!
Why give the big lie credibility?-
Submitted by Don L on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:32pm.
Leftist media objectivity is rarer than a purple-polar bear wearing Gucci.
To argue if the left has a bias, is to give their bias credibility as an objective question. When the issue comes up, I just laugh -it drives them crazy, because they want your to argue the issue.
It's like those who don't believe in God, but spend all their time fighting Him. If He doesn't exist -why are you....?
So -why argue media bias - it and swamp gas both exist, everyone knows it , especially the leftist media - and have for a long time.
You mean aside from the Fox interview?
Submitted by bradkarr on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:51pm.
You two like the rest of the libs need to get you head out of your, umm, err, ( sand ).
You know you are talking thru your ( sand ) If either of you had any common sense it would be a miracle. You will be so, so sad in 2012 when the kenyan is retired.
You mean aside from the Fox interview?
Submitted by bradkarr on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:53pm.
You two like the rest of the libs need to get you head out of your, umm, err, ( sand ).
You know you are talking thru your ( sand ) If either of you had any common sense it would be a miracle. You will be so, so sad in 2012 when the kenyan is retired.
Palin?
Submitted by JackandMarilyn on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:48pm.
I thought this thread was specifically about Palin, not Palin in comparison to O'bama and how each media team treats them.
Unless I can't read (and I
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:13pm.
Unless I can't read (and I did go to the same high school as Barama..........and he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer), this article also includes Kelly, Glenn Beck, Fox news, Jon Stewart, and some unidentified Dem hack also. And, believe it or not, people on these threads do like to expand the conversation from time to time.......and I believe that you brought up Brett Baier and Bill O'Reilly,right???
Zing !!!---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:30pm.
in the ten ring, killa.
MD
That's ok because facts and
Submitted by Bhaal on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:59pm.
That's ok because facts and details are flexible for J&M.
thread
Submitted by LarryG on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:21pm.
I thought the subject was Megyn Kelly's interview with some unknown liberal rag. Is it not? Stay on topic.
Do you mean Palin's CBS interviews? Or the CNN ones?
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:14pm.
"She knows she won't ever face CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN one on one, so she uses rightist news to prop her up."
This may have escaped your attention, but Palin gave several interviews to news outlets other than Fox. CBS and CNN comes to mind.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Make no mistake, Palin fears no reporter
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 4:33pm.
And Sarah Palin has also done interviews on CNBC, Headline News, and PBS . . .
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
facing the communists
Submitted by LarryG on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:53pm.
You're dead wrong. She tried it and they treated her like dog sh*t. Do you actually believe you know how to analyze? Your myopia looks to be terminal.
Free speech
Submitted by MrLuigi on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 9:26am.
It's always interesting to see a liberal express concerns over free speech when it's their ideology that brought america the worst assault on free speech in our history. I'm referring of course to political correctness.
MrLuigi---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:36pm.
Correct.
PC has indeed torpedoed the U.S.S. America, and instead of attempting to make needed repairs, politicians and other idiots are encouraging full steam ahead, too stupid to realize that when the ship goes down, they, too, will be on it.
MD
It Ain't Fear
Submitted by Gazinya on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:49am.
I don't think Mrs. Palin is afraid of talking to the progressive media. I believe she is just exhausted by the same questions that these socialist ask her.
1. Do you think a unintellegent, small town mayor with no gravitas can actually win anything against this 'manna from heaven' (if there was a heaven) president?
2. Do you still deny that your 'handicapp' child is not your daughters child by your huband? That you had 'this' child to further your political career?
3. Do you really think people will accept a Christian ideolog that is lead by a 'book' of myths and superstitions.
4. Because you are pretty, why don't you do a Playboy 'shoot'?
I love to watch Megyn Kelly
Submitted by packman on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:17am.
go toe-to-toe with liberal guests. In typical fashion she usually mops the floor with them. She is articulate, intelligent, beautiful and one heck of a news show host. I can't wait until she is back on her show. In her early career she was an attorney. Wow, can you imagine the shellacking that an opposing attorney would face? She is good at what she does and of course drives the liberals nuts. You go girl!
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Megyn is back on - yay!!! I
Submitted by amyshulk on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:24pm.
Megyn is back on - yay!!! I DVR her show and for the last 4 months, I've been able to watch the 2 hours in about 20 minutes, since *some* of the hosts would constantly er and um... it drove me NUTS!!!
Megyn is so smart, quick, and funny, I even watch even the fluff/filler!
Ronald Reagan
Check Mate
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:26am.
Obama won't talk to Fox News. So what is this repressive liberal's problem? Is Obama president of the people or not?
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Obamao and hearing.
Submitted by LarryG on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:25pm.
"Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage."
— Winston S. Churchill
Dear Leader doesn't like to hear anything approaching dissent rather he prefers adulation and fawning.
He also does not want to hear
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:14am.
the people he blames for things "do a lot of the talking". I guess their role is just to wear the cone of shame and bow their heads.
Somebody should tell that idiot interviewer that....
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:42am.
...freedom of speech means talking to whoever you desire, whenever you desire and under whatever conditions you desire. It does not mean the obligation to speak to anyone you find distasteful or who has seriously harmed you in the past. That moron of an interviewer probably thinks the constitution is inconvenient too.
It's the entitlement mentality, Docsam
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:02pm.
The MEDIA entitlement mentality. Because they are journOlists (sorry, can't help myself), they are entitled, and demand the "right" to force anyone, at any time, to tell them what they want to know.
(Dammit!)
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 138 (and Counting)
Ain't that the truth...
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:06pm.
To some extent, the mainstream media is behaving exactly like the current crop of entitlement-poisoned children running around demanding everything be handed to them.
Did you notice that latest incarnation of Ted is making trouble above?
Certainment, Doctor
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:14pm.
It's one of his little games, making up outrageous "identities" to troll with here.
First time out, was a black female! Then a bunch who were banned so fast we never did get the faux backgrounds. Then, of course, the straight, married guy. And now, the gay high school kid.
Is there a new branch of psychiatry for internet wierdos? Because I think you could use NB as a lab and come up with some beautiful theories to present. Think of the possibilities! And as the Vet would say....what are these idiots like in "meat space"? (That still cracks me up).
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 138 (and Counting)
No special branch of psychiatry, YET.
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:24pm.
We take note of new diagnoses every day. I don't know whether "internet trolling addiction" will be defined by the upcoming DSM-V, but certainly some kind of techno-compulsion certainly will.
I already like using NB in my presentations to medical students, psychiatry and neurology residents. I blind the information, of course, but most of these multiple-identity trolls are so easy to detect with a few basic forensic psychiatry techniques.
The clues usually are:
1) Choosing a liberally desirable demographic combination - and the more dramatically composed (e.g. quadraplegic half-Vietnamese, half-Hispanic Lesbian in a plural marriage and "persecuted" by religious zealots) the better - garners more facets upon which to claim victimhood - very classic strategy of the attention-seeking borderline personality types
2) Constantly asking questions that are of the "have you stopped beating your wife yet" variety - add in narcissistic and obsessive components - with a touch of schizophreniform (not what you think - this means "loner" in borderline personality disorder subtypes) and maybe even a dash of sociopathy when you consider the conflict they attempt to creaate
3) Claiming to be older (therefore the "age comes with wisdom" fallacy) or younger ("you meanies are picking on a kid") and therefore believing to be worthy of immunity to antisocial or outrageous statements
4) Short, imitative quips - e. g. a certain other troll - diatribe picked up from other websites and deposited here like some kind of bone yard - noticeable in a combination of posts that read like a talking points fax from Jay Carney's office, Kos or moron.org
and....
5) Changing the subject constantly in a rather bad attempt to evade detection - not unlike a thief changing an MO to throw off the police on his/her trail
Those are the behaviors I have seen from our current crop of trolls. The parallels to trolls past (zips, Ted, etc.) are too obvious to ignore.
I'd be happy to be your research assitant
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:43pm.
Gratis, of course.
It really is too bad we've had two re-sets here, we had a (multiple retread) troll named Hater once back in the Wild West days, who had a whole little gang of imaginary friends (Matt busted them talking about us over on Stern Fan Network, it was beyond hilarious "Help Me St. Jimmy, I'm getting my ass kicked over there by those evil conservatives!").
And of course various incantations of about eight or ten others, but Deddy is the absolute sorriest retread here. I think it's because he finally fessed up, changed his behavior for a while, but then became more and more agressive and nasty (as we've seen in the latest) until the BIG meltdown (around Christmas)...with 3 successive aliases within days of each other who all flamed out within hours. And of course, several more attempts since then.
When you write your book, I'll expect a dedication to the fabulous NewsBusters, which as you know, is a super duper "techno-compulsion" lab on internet trolling.
BTW, did you see Kingfish's "rant generator" link earlier? I shared it w/my Gator board members and we are using it for comedic effect with our trolls there. The sheer nonsense the rant generator puts out confuses the trolls mightily! (We used to derail their nonsense with food & recipes).
P.S. I think you just wrote the outline for the chapter on trolling in "Basic Internet Moderating 101".
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 138 (and Counting)
Docsam & Blonde: Right on target.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:31pm.
The media claims “special prosecutorial rights” for itself when it comes to reporting/interviewing private citizens. Even if Sarah Palin was an announced candidate, she would still have the right to refuse to be interviewed by any news outlet of her choosing.
If we think about it, there are only four candidates in the race who are “public officials” (Bachmann, Perry, Paul, and McCotter). The rest are still private citizens, and will remain so until they take the oath of office.
I’m not suggesting those "private citizen candidates" should deny all requests for interviews by hostile outlets… just that they have the right to do so if they wished.
- Grump :o)
Public Officials
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:40pm.
Holder & his Justice Department = Razor Clams.
See: Operation Fast & Furious. *rolls eyes*
I just love the fact that Sarah Palin is driving the journOlists positively crazy. They follow her around like the Papps on Princess Di. They are furious she won't speak to them, and won't tell them her plans! How dare she?!?
I'll be her fan forever just for tormenting the MsM. She's payed them back in spades (is that racist?) although they are too stupid to see it.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 138 (and Counting)
Absolutely!
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:05pm.
Especially about Holder and F&F... Heck! He won't even cooperate with legitimate authority in the form of Rep. Issa's inquirey!
I guess the media once again fails to understand the difference between "Constitutionally Granted powers" and their own "claimed powers."
- Grump :o)
Doc Sam---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:43pm.
I never fail to learn something from your informative posts.
Just damned excellent they are.
MD
Great class drsam*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:16pm.
Got that one bookmarked already. Thanks.
Disgusting
Submitted by ant on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:14pm.
That someone from the lib press would have the nerve to ask this sort of question after the Obamacare town-hall nonsense ("I wouldn't pee on your leg." -Rep. Stark talking to a citizen) and the recent Dick Duhrbin protective mollycoddling from the "media".
freedom definition
Submitted by LarryG on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:03pm.
Definition of FREEDOM: the quality or state of being free: as
a: the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action
b: liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another : independence
c: the quality or state of being exempt or released usually from something onerous
d: ease, facility
e: the quality of being frank, open, or outspoken
f: improper familiarity
g: boldness of conception or execution
h: unrestricted use
Exactly.
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:24am.
She's more talking about "privilege of the press" that the press think they have to form opinions about people. If Palin's not interviewing with them, then they can't steer her message to form opinions, and not controlling the debate is very frustrating to them.
Freedom of the press means that if somebody decides to talk to you, you can publish what they say without fear of government reprisal. But as liberals see the Constitution as more manifesto than agreement, they believe the the freedom against Congress' abridging the press gives the press some ideological value as central to our democracy--and just like the free market they get confused between actual actors and theoretical benefactors. So just as they see crooked firms a reason that nobody should value free markets, they see the value of a free press invested in the existing institutions of the press, thus making an affront to ABC a denial of the value of a free press.
Megyn vs Mika?
Submitted by Cactus Kurt on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:53am.
Megyn is intelligent, articulate, and funny. Mika is petty, biased, and banal... unless you consider "mmmmm", "tsk", "uh-huh", and "ya know" as intelligent discourse.
Megyn vs. Mika (I'd pay to see that, BTW)
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:58am.
Well....they do have one thing in common, they're both blonde.
Other than that...not so much (my body has been inhabited by an evil Brit and the massive understatement has to be pointed out here, inasmuch as I don't know how to type a British accent).
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 138 (and Counting)
Blonde............I think all
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:13pm.
Blonde............I think all you've got to do is remember that interchange that the luscious Megyn Kelly had with the other Fox gal a number of months ago. I can't think of her name offhand, but she is a regular on Fox, and she's actually pretty articulate and quick and smart - but she leans towards the lib side of things.
I was having my morning coffee before work when that was going on, and Kelly just took this gal apart on EVERY point........and from what I've seen and heard of Mika, she couldn't even keep up with the woman who was being ripped by Kelly.
So pairing these two up would be a purported meeting of the minds.........and only one would show up!!!
→ Killa
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:07pm.
You wouldn't be referring to the battered, whimpering Kirsten Powers, would you?
Seems little Kirsten feels a typical liberal need to defend even the most bigoted of acts (voter intimidation) as long as it's done by members of a Democrat pet protected class.
Yeah..........mahalo, Cool. I
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:11pm.
Yeah..........mahalo, Cool. I couldn't think of her name, but I've seen her many times. She got mopped pretty bad on that exchange - I just happened to catch it live. She's one of O'Reilly's constant guests..........well, she might still be - I've pretty much avoided O'Reilly for some time, because he's such a smarmy, condascending ego-maniac who thinks he's some kind of tough guy, because he can bark at the wrong people, and then wuss-out with the really wrong people!!!
→ O'reilly chickened out
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:23pm.
When O'reilly allowed Geraldo to slide with his "I would spit on Michelle Malkin" comment, Bill-O lost a lot of respect from Americans.
Geraldo's a puke........it's
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:32pm.
Geraldo's a puke........it's ALWAYS gotta be about him..............if I see him..........KABOOM - the channel either changes or the TV goes off!!!
Why he is a registered.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:42pm.
Republican is beyond me. He doesn't have a small 'r' republican bone in his body.
Well, guys like him give
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:48pm.
Well, guys like him give Republicans a bad name..................just like guys like Zell Miller give Democrats a good name. Oh, I forgot.........there aren't any Zell Miller's around anymore. Now, if we could only get rid of the Grim Reaper and a few of these other psuedo-Republicans..............
Ann Coulter,in typical faux
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:51pm.
Ann Coulter,in typical faux blond bimbo undersatement, got it right - 'Rivera is a@@hole'..............end of story.
Quit watching that night
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:01pm.
Hadnt seen 10 min of his show since
Thanks, Cool.
Submitted by ant on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:12am.
That was entertaining, Megyn armed with facts and Kirsten with her "Waaaahhhhh".
Typing with a British accent...
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:45pm.
Typing with a British accent, isn't that what we're all doing here? I blame the Queen's English! Heh.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Not sure, mate
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:27pm.
Because I don't think "I could use a bloody faggot" has quite the meaning I'd wish to convey, here. *runs for the exit*
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 138 (and Counting)
You could say it to that
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:48pm.
You could say it to that troll that's been lurking around here lately...........
Yeah, but the English phrase---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:46pm.
"I'll knock you up in a week or so", really, really, really should never be aimed at this particular troll.
MD
Yu a stone-cold muvvah
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:56pm.
Yu a stone-cold muvvah falkah, m-doubleT - dogg!!! Yu be layin' the smack down, mofo!!! You be mackin'....................the troll be crackin'..................and I be Cadillacin'!!!!
Slammin' Em Good
Submitted by rammingspeed on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:03pm.
Megyn Kelly is becoming the new thorn in the leftie "journalist" world's side. And she hurts them bad, because she's brilliant and likeable, and no one's damn fool. In fact, she slaughters people who trying throwing it down with her. That's THE prescription for engendering leftie hatred. She's got guts and she's tougher than hell. By the way (I don't do BTW), we in the normal world love you, Megyn!
LOL rmngspd................u
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:18pm.
LOL rmngspd................u dn du BTW??? OMG!!! IMO u r kewel. LMAO!!! hw r u bb??? OU812???
WTffffffffF?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:41pm.
Sorry, Killa. I stutter.
no prblm.........i
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:05pm.
no prblm.........i dmb.......k???
Yeah killa, dmb---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:48pm.
like a fox, you are. :o)
MD
I think the southern boys
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:13pm.
I think the southern boys call it 'country dumb'................since the city slilckers are the ones who think that they're the 'smart' ones.
Yet another example of a
Submitted by ThePickle on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 1:20pm.
Yet another example of a supposedly educated journalist that has NO FREAKING IDEA what the First amendment to our Constitution means.
Not surprisingly she appears to be a leftist and for the last several years it has in fact been the left leaning political hacks and even left leaning elected officials that have said in so many words that "certain folk" i.e. The Tea Party, don't actually deserve the protections guaranteed under the First amendment, protecting citizens from government interference while engaging in lawful free speech.
Short answer: No
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:20pm.
"But isn't that part of the job? Isn't that what politicians have to do?"
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Politicians are accountable to their constituents, and no one else. They're not accountable to the Nation as a whole. They're not accountable to the President (although the President IS accountable to them, hence the Constitutional requirement of "advise and consent,' and, especially, the State of the Union address), and they're not even accountable to each other, other than each House's ability to investigate and punish their own members for Rules violations. The Press, especially the National Press, is not a part of their constituency. WHY should politicians be forced to answer their questions?
Politicians don't have to answer ANY questions posed by the press. They don't even have to answers questions posed by their own constituents (nor do they have to answer questions posed by the Court!), but that's usually a bad idea as far as the constituents are concerned. Then again, answering those questions may be just as harmful as total silence.
As President Lincoln once said: "I am rather inclined to silence, and whether that be wise or not, it is at least more unusual nowadays to find a man who can hold his tongue than to find one who cannot."
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Who reads.............?
Submitted by Herbster on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:02pm.
Marie Claire Magazine? Never heard of it. By the way, does anyone actually read, or subscribe to it? What are its circulation numbers? Is it right up there with "The Nation?"
How about a REAL debate? Bachmann, Newt and Megyn vs. Obambi, Biden and Tingles? That would be the main event. In the prelims we could have Barney Frank vs. Krauthammer and Little Timmy the Tax Cheat vs. either Art Laffer or Larry Kudlow.
I thinkl we're on to something here......a new reality show?
The future will surely triumph over the perpetual yesterday.......
I thought I saw some Marie
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:08pm.
I thought I saw some Marie Claire frozen products in the pastry section of the supermarket..........
Those fantasy debates are just a pipedream, unfortunatly!!! None of those libs would want to come close to anyone you mentioned..........
So...
Submitted by voodoodoughnut on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 2:58pm.
..."free speech" means you HAVE to talk, and you HAVE to talk to people who hate your guts.
I had no idea.
my post
Submitted by LarryG on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 6:06pm.
See my post on the definition of freedom. I agree with you.
Megyn Kelly
Submitted by griv on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 3:15pm.
is the heat. She's got it all. Talent, brains, looks, conservative and witty. Why any idiot would think they could get over on her is beyond reason.
Arrogance.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 7:46pm.
They're arrogant..................and stupid. That's why.
She's a liberal.
Submitted by ArrowSmith on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 8:31pm.
Notice how she's for government mandated paid maternity leave. That's not a conservative position.
What??? She said she is
Submitted by amyshulk on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:38pm.
What??? She said she is fortunate to work for a company that gives a generous maternity leave, and that the LAW allows men to take it too. How did you get she is for "government mandated paid maternity leave" out of that?
This is so typical - playing on the field, with the rules laid down {the law} makes one a hypocrite/supporter of said laws.
So R's are punished for operating within this framework to give a LESS BAD option. And a reduction in gov't. spending is a CUT!
Inanity and insanity abound!
Ronald Reagan
Government paid???
Submitted by bbboss on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:07pm.
There is nothing in that particular law about getting paid...if a certain company decides they can pay their employee (I don't know of any who do), then it is the companies' business. And by the way, maternity is not the only reason for a family leave....men can go for all sorts of reasons. Before you post, you ought to know what the hell you are talking about....
bbboss
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:01pm.
Good point! In the USN, it was paid {30 days} but I'm not familiar with the requirements of the law - which ArrowSmith says is paid, but I think I would have remembered push back on that if it were true!!!
Ronald Reagan
Hi Sailor Shulk*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:59pm.
Since I have 5 family members career military and currently on active duty, I have a question. Heard a rumor that NEW enlistees will be denied a pension even if they serve 20 yrs. Have been unable to verify this. Have you heard anything about the DOD changing pension rules?
It's funny cajun - I was
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 7:37pm.
It's funny cajun - I was *just* thinking about how not 2 years in, word came down we were going to have to do 25 not 20 for full retirement, getting partial at 20.
This was early 80's - I've been out since '91 so I'm not up with the latest.
I told my liberal friend {who's mad they didn't get the public option} that all those who want health, dental, vision, housing, and food, should join the military - I forgot about paid maternity leave!
Ronald Reagan
Just saw it on Special Report
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 8:50pm.
Just saw it on Special Report - Chris said it's up to congress to change from the 20 year pension {of about half annual salary} to a 401K style for the military, so it's in the pipeline.
I only did 11 years {disabled} so I got a lump sum {which they taxed a third of off the top and I didn't find out they weren't supposed to until AFTER it was too late!!} and in 2005 or '06 started getting a monthly check. Enough to pay the electricity bill :-P
Ronald Reagan
Thanks Amy*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:10pm.
Now I can try to find out specifics. Three of my family members are in other parts of the world so I do a lot of research for them. I will try to get something together to send to them. The Chief Petty Officer is 8 months from 20 and AF Master Sgt has 22 years.
Thanks for your help and thank you for your service.
cajun2
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 08/15/2011 - 9:33pm.
Oh, your family makes my heart proud! Hopefully they won't mess with their pensions, and as you said, just make the change for newbies, but they do love to ignore the Fed. workers' bennies and try to strip them from our military members, who actually deserve them!!!
I'm surrounded by liberals and moderates IRL, except for my husband {he was in too - that's how we met - both Seabees} and I sorely miss my other "family"! If not for my back, I'd have stayed in for at least 20!!!!
Ronald Reagan
Asking Megyn Kelly about why Sarah Palin's
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 9:03pm.
motives to give an interview to whomever is like my ex asking why my mom chooses not to speak with her or her family. Because she gets burned every time! So quit being a typical liberal coward like the toolbag gay troll on here and confront the source!