PBS Host Smiley Invites His Radio Co-Host Cornel West to Further Explain How Obama's a Black Puppet of Wall Street
After radical Princeton professor Cornel West savagely attacked President Obama as a Wall Street mascot and puppet, it would hardly be surprising that PBS talk-show host Tavis Smiley would provide him a forum on Wednesday night to repeat his analysis – after all, Smiley and West host a public-radio show together. But it’s still amazing that he doesn’t see his insults as very insulting:
SMILEY: Did he have to be called a Black mascot and a Black puppet? There are those who suggested that you were petty, for a man who talks as much about love as you do, that you were petty for using terminology like "mascot" and "puppet."
WEST: Well, one, I am the kind of Christian, I love mascots. I love puppets, too.
He’s still a human being. He’s still brilliant. He’s still charismatic. He’s got a magnificent wife, he’s got precious children. He’s still a brother in that sense. So when you call somebody a mascot, that is a putdown in terms of the role that they choose to perform. That’s not an attack on his humanity.
West also tried to explain the strange-sounding line about Obama growing up (deficiently) in a white culture:
WEST: Well, you say his formation was culturally White. Yes. There is such a thing as being formed culturally White. Hall and Oates is blacker than Pat Boone. Average White Band is blacker than the Beach Boys. They all White, but one’s more Black than the other. Curtis Mayfield blacker than all of them in terms of style, in terms of form, in terms of soulfulness.
So it’s not a putdown. They’re all human beings. I actually appreciate Pat Boone, but I know he’s not Curtis Mayfield. I know he’s not Hall and Oates. So it’s not a matter of excluding folk from humanity, but we’ve got to tell the truth though, brother, and I’m committed to telling the truth in relation to poor and working people, whether I’m trashed or not.
SMILEY: The second quote I want to get to, "I think my dear brother Barack Obama has a certain fear of free Black men. It’s understandable; as a young brother who grows up in a White context, brilliant African father, he’s always had to fear being a White man with black skin. All he has known culturally is White. He is just as human as I am, but that is his cultural formation. You just spoke on that. Anything you want to add to it?
WEST: There’s a line above it – he is as human and I am, and it can be overcome. We know brother Father Pfleger, our dear brother just got his church back, St. Sabina -
SMILEY: In Chicago.
WEST: – one of the great prophetic churches of our country. He grew up on the vanilla side of town. He had a White formation. But he is fundamentally committed to poor people. Fundamentally committed to working people. John Brown, even a better example on the White side of town, loving Black folk more than many Black folk loved themselves. He died for Black folk.
So by saying "white formation," that’s not a – that’s a description. That’s not a racist characterization, as it were. And let’s be very honest about it – to grow up on the vanilla side of town does mean that you have a certain fear of free Black men. In fact, in his own autobiography he says his grandparents had a fear of Black men.
SMILEY: And his grandmama used the "N" word.
WEST: Used the "N" word. I still love the White grandparents. They loved him, and that’s a beautiful thing. But we have to be honest in terms of historical formation. But you know what? What’s fascinating to me, though, Tavis, and this is where you see the pathology of the pundit class, if people could spend as much energy trashing me and demonizing me as focusing on mass incarceration and the prison industrial complex, tell the truth about the military industrial complex, half of the federal budget, tell the truth about Wall Street oligarchy and the greed still running amok this very minute tied to the glitz and the gluttony that goes with it.
Tell the truth about the corporate media that is market-driven, that doesn’t want to allow progressive voices to tell the truth about the corporate state and the imperial wars connected between the two. That’s the sad thing.
Smiley began by simply asking for West's take on the controversy swirling him around him. At this point in the interview, he asked West if he would like to denounce The Boston Globe for editorializing against him. (The answer was yes.) Then Smiley wrapped up by asking about the Jews in West's remarks:
SMILEY: The last part I want to get to in the time I have left here, the third part of this article that you’ve been most taken to task for, your quote, "He feels most comfortable," speaking of President Obama, "He feels most comfortable with upper middle class White and Jewish men who consider themselves very smart, very savvy and very effective in getting what they want." There are those who suggested that that comment is borderline, if not anti-Semitic.
WEST: Oh, no, not at all, good God. Given my love for Jewish brothers and sisters, absolutely not. What I’m saying, if you look at his advisers, if you look at his appointees, it’s more National Hockey League than it is National Basketball Association.
SMILEY: Football league. (Laughter)
WEST: Or National Football League, right? Now, if we had a National Football League-like appointee, you had all these brilliant Black brothers and sisters, there’d be a whole different kind of dialogue. It’d almost be a civil strife in the country, you see.
And I say hey, get the most brilliant White brothers you can get. Get some progressive ones. Get the most brilliant Jewish brothers and sisters you can get, but get progressive ones. Get Black brothers and sisters, get progressive ones concerned about the poor, concerned about working people, jobs, jobs with a living wage.
Healthcare available to all. Medicare for all. These are the kinds of issues that need to be talked about. Believe me, we could be living in a moment in which we have the last chance to somehow push back the institutionalized greed that is just completely devouring the democratic possibilities of the country, and that’s the kind of backbone that we need and that’s the kind of backbone I haven’t seen.
If he had backbone for poor and working people the way he had backbone killing Bin Laden, I’d be break-dancing. I’m not. I’m upset.
It's a little amazing that even as West is sitting on taxpayer-funded PBS, he can still wail about how the corporate state isn't allowing any progressive voices to speak in the media. It's a little jarring to go from West's Marxist analysis to the underwriting announcements: "Nationwide Insurance proudly supports Tavis Smiley. Tavis and Nationwide Insurance – working to improve financial literacy and the economic empowerment that comes with it."
- Tim Graham's blog
- Login to post comments
Comments
Credick Card
Submitted by chuckk on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 12:21am.
Where do I go to get my Upper Class and Savvy White Privilege Card?
And do it give discounts?
You Have Already Benefitted
Submitted by Justin Crowe on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 9:40am.
Actually, if you are white in America, you have already benefited from racism, through preferential lending practices, preferential hiring practices, and preferential and inconsistent enforcement of the law. No savvy white privilege card needed.
This crap again
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 10:48am.
Didn't you already try passing this sociological BS off in another thread. We didn't buy it then and we are not buying it now.
That is because those who
Submitted by Justin Crowe on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 10:54am.
That is because those who benefit most directly from racism feel the most threatened when structural racism is exposed. Such exposure is a threat to power and is thus, especially for white men, taken at a very personal level.
Riiiight
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 11:01am.
I know you read a few books from afrocentric sociologists and historians that convinced you all your failures are the fault of the white devil but son.....it just ain't so. No matter how many times you repeat it.
I am not sure what you mean
Submitted by Justin Crowe on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 11:11am.
I am not sure what you mean by all my failures. Being white myself, I know that I have also benefited from racism. I am not talking about the overt racism of the Jim Crow era, but rather its descendent, "white privilege." White privilege can be found (in our culture) in the notion that whiteness is normative while those with darker skin are marginal, which contributes to the social differences between those deemed "white" and others.
Good for you
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 11:20am.
I am glad you have embraced your white guilt. I, on the other hand, do not have any. As we discussed before, that is one school of thought. It is not fact even though YOU believe it.
Your white privilege defense
Submitted by Justin Crowe on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 11:30am.
Your white privilege defense mechanisms are showing.
Not as much as your white guilt
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 11:39am.
Stop projecting it on to me.
Hmmm sentry...
Submitted by Rukus on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 7:35pm.
This one has the definite stench of a racial version of Mekt.
First sign of an alcoholic.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 1:27am.
He denies being an alcoholic.
You know who else denies being alcoholic? non-alcoholics.
So the first sign is worthless as an indicator. As is your white privilege defense mechanisms. People without white privilege defense mechanisms say the same exact things. Worthless.
Give us concrete examples little slur troll Jusin Crowe or shut up.
"whiteness is normative while those with darker skin are marginal"
A concrete example of that. Oh I would not start with the Presidency, members of Congress, Supreme Court Justices, the Music Industry, CEO's of major corporations, weathermen, the acting profession, or the military where darker skin people all have reached or are currently at the top.
Reaching the top of a profession does not qualify as marginal no matter what slurs you try to bring here.
I can provide examples of
Submitted by Justin Crowe on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 10:47am.
I can provide examples of white privilege all day. For example, studies have found that black children of well-off black families are more likely to be suspended from school for school infractions than children of poor white families. Not only does this demonstrate white privilege, it also illustrates that white privilege operates independently of social class (in other words, even well-off and economically successful blacks, like those you cite above, still stuffer from racial biases). You can't confuse socio-economic status with racial status, they are two different things. Job applicants with white sounding names are 50 percent more likely to get call backs than those whose names sound black. Moreover, whites with a criminal background are more likely to get interview call backs than blacks with no criminal background. Whites are more likely to use drugs than black people, but black people constitute 90 percent of those in prison for drugs (even thought whites are more likely to get caught). There have many documented examples of race-based discrimination in the housing market. In addition to all that, there are many examples in our culture where whiteness is the assumed standard. For example, the recent Dove add with the black woman on the left and the white woman on the right, with the before and after above that clearly implies a lighter skin tone after using the product (also implied by the order in which the ladies were lined up), clearly implies that whiteness is the standard. Even skin toned band-aids and "nude" color panty hose take Caucasian skin tones as the standard.
The examples you provide above are perfect examples of tokenism. If were truly lived in a post-racial society, 13 percent of those in our government, 13 percent of our CEOs, 13 percent of our business owners would be black as blacks represent 13 percent of our society. This is not the case. We have no black US senators! We had more black US senators in 1867, three years after the Civil War, than we do now!
"Studies have found..."
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 11:03am.
LOL.
13% of business owners should be black? Who is stopping blacks from opening businesses?
I have NEVER seen such a pathetic case of liberal white guilt put into words as you did here.
Congratulations. Now do the right thing: donate your net worth to Al Sharpton and then go hang yourself as penance for your crimes against the black race.
What part of concrete do you fail to understand?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 11:41am.
I expect you to trust nothing from me, an anonymous nothing on the internet. So I SOURCE. Now, you do the same.
I said concrete. This is the first post I have been disrespected by you. KNOCK IT OFF.
You got a study. LINK. You got a fact. SOURCE.
And I said example. EX-AMP-PUL. Not numbers. KNOCK IT OFF WITH THE GAMES.
YOU ARE MAKING SERIOUS CHARGES. START BACKING THEM UP.
Reply to Justin Crowe*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 11:54am.
My intention was to answer each of your fallacies in your screed but I so dislike looong posts . But, your inaccurate assessments could not be ignored .As a social worker, my career was spent working with the black community.
First, your screed is typical of white elitist guilt in that it is an assessment of a societal problem from your view point on the high horse without any consideration of problems within the black community. By this I mean, whites are a majority in this country. Your numbers from various studies are misinterpreted intentionally.
Secondly, by continuing to assume the blacks in this country are "victims" you remove any sense of responsibility to blacks for their own problems. This is condescending and insulting yet you fail to recognize that glaring fact. When you continue to lower expectations for a "group" they will meet those lower expectations. Basically you are telling blacks that they are not as smart, capable, nor able to become self sufficient without special privileges. This is highly insulting to the black community.
Third. Blacks have a higher percentage of government housing and low interest loans, highest enrollment in entitlement programs, special privileges for college tuition loans , affirmative action and many other programs. All of these programs are covertly designed once again without regard for solutions to the black community problems from their point of view, just the typical white liberal guilt elitist stance. It is demeaning and condescending. All of these programs again are designed to lower expectations with privilege resulting in those lower expectations.
Fourth. Many black families are generational welfare. They have adjusted their cultural beliefs to conform to the "rules and qualification regulations" of those entitlement programs. By this I mean, there are more single parent families in the black community in order to comply with entitlement programs. As a result, 72% of all black children reared by a single parent, living in poverty will continue to live in poverty, hence, generational welfare.
Fifth, when children have no expectations, told repeatedly they are "different", they learn a different set of behavioral rules and expectations. Within the school system today, many studies show, black children are least likely to be suspended from school until their behavior becomes one of safety to other children. That is once again changing rules to offset assumed "victimhood" and having different rules because those students are "different". Can you not see that this attitude does not prepare black children well when they are faced with conformity to adult society?
Lastly, we do have blacks in politics. This past election of 2010, more blacks were elected to local, municipal, state positions than ever in our history. More blacks are in the House than ever before. The Senate is a very different requirement for education and experience. You will see an increase in numbers when people like Alan West and Tim Scott and other black conservatives move to the Senate.
This is not the proper forum to share with you my life long inside experiences and knowledge of problems in the black community, especially without a chalkboard. But the information you spread out in your screed is partially responsible for the continuation of difficulties in the black community since it assumes no responsibility for change within the black community , just more concessions by the white community which is the primary cause for the black communities generational problems. Continued entitlements and special privileges ALONE is NOT in the best interest of the black community in our society. And NOT ALL of the problems in the black community is the fault of whites. Ignoring the problems in the black community is the wrong path, condescending, and the reason no significant improvements are being made.
So I will suggest you read material from the following writers and educators......
Dr Thomas Sowell, Walter E Williams, Larry Elder, Armstrong Williams, Dr Alveda King, Star Parker, and Doneen Borelli. You may also find Dr Janice Shaw Crouse interesting as well.
#3 is my favorite, Caj.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:33pm.
All the others are spot on, too.
I asked for concrete examples.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 11:56am.
I am definitely getting the feeling I am getting bull. There are myriad reasons why black people could be underrepresented in various professions. Racism DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ONE OF THEM. Are you pulling something here?
For example, the recent Dove add with the black woman on the left and the white woman on the right, with the before and after above that clearly implies a lighter skin tone after using the product (also implied by the order in which the ladies were lined up), clearly implies that whiteness is the standard.
Dove? First of all, make sense. The recent Dove add? Do you mean AD? I have to read your sentences 2 or 3 times to figure out what you are saying now? You want me to think you are intelligent. ACT IT. Now, I don't see the implication. Explain it. It is not CLEAR. Link to the AD. I want to look.
I said Concrete.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:00pm.
Did I ask to be flooded with a bunch of unsourced crap?
What is a black name? Who did this study? When was it done? Where? Was there an interview? LINK LINK LINK SOURCE SOURCE SOURCE.
Justin, DUDE! Your life is sad.
Submitted by 1dottiemarty on Sun, 05/29/2011 - 12:30pm.
The commenter "cajun2" says it all eloquently, however, a few things.
1) Regarding the Dove commercial, which is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.......how do you explain than "the white privileged" laying in the sun to get DARKER skin and spray tanning? Do they want to be perceived as less than "the assumed standard"? Why would they want to darken that precious white skin of theirs?
2)They now make really awesome designer band-aids with pretty colors, Dora the Explorer, glittery, etc. I believe Dora is Spanish. Would white parents who place a Dora band-aid on their children be limiting their "white privileged" life by allowing them to where that? Did your study show the child may be given a lower grade in school for not wearing the standard "whitey" bandage?
3)We have no black Senators? We HAD a black senator who unfortunately is now our president. If you did not catch that, we HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT. I say unfortunately not because he is black. I say that because he is corrupt and he has no character.There r facts to back THAT up.
4)Regarding you, Tavis, Cornell, Flagler and everyone else, are you telling us that "poor and working" only regard to black people? There are seriously no poor white people in America?
Keep up the great victimhood and keeping others down with your ridiculous views. Ugh!
Pretzel logic+pure racism.
Submitted by robert108 on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 12:21am.
Pretzel logic+pure racism.
= progressive
Submitted by gAMEoVER on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 1:01am.
= progressive
That was painful
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 12:28am.
Wow.....my head hurt to read all that. Racism in FULL display but no one bats an eye.
These two are a disgusting pair.
And they think the Chairman had a hand in killing bin Laden. Not really.
-Jon
PBS Host Smiley Invites His Radio Co-Host Cornel West to Furthe
Submitted by zita on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 12:42am.
This is the first time I am visiting your site and I am glad to read this post. I found this post is really useful one.. I love reading this kind of stuff. Your blog is one of a kind, i love the way you organize the topics.
Ecommerce website developers
Day-um , looks like Spay-um---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 1:19am.
or maybe Spam.
MD
Yep!
Submitted by Rukus on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 7:49pm.
And couldn't even wait 2 whole days! That's a go-getter for sure!.
At least it was english-ish.
Edit: BOINK! Half way down titled "Nice"
But wait a tick there mister.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 1:31am.
But I was really glad to read that post and I found it a really useful one and I really love that stuff and I think it is one of a kind and I... Wait. Organize topics? Why that is the biggest load of hooey I have read after I saw the useless third nipple phrase white privilege defense mechanisms.
It gripes me to no end how
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 12:52am.
It gripes me to no end how conservatives are somehow the "bigots" yet these liberal talking heads do nothing but talk about a persons race. It is so damn annoying. It pisses me off even more knowing there isn't a damn thing we can do about it because the left runs the media.
That West is a Bad Mutha (Shut Yo Mouf!)...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 1:02am.
...But Ahm talkin' 'bout Cornel!...Right On!!!
I cracked the code
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 1:20am.
Based on this article and the last, I believe I have found the secret to West's powers. He is able to say any racist or anti-semitic thing he want's but he knows the code.
It's simple. When talking about any racial, ethnic, religous etc., group...use MY, BROTHERS and SISTERS.
Example
"Black people are all in gangs" Racist right. Not so fast
"My Black brothers and sisters are all in gangs." There you have it. Now it is deep and thoughtful.
"The Jews need to get out of Palestine" OR "My Jewish brothers and sisters need to get out of Palestine." Anti-semitic or deep concern for my fellow humans?
Wait...................Smiley
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 2:12am.
Wait...................Smiley is a 'puppet' of the new 'non-racism'............which means that you can be a'racist', but actually you are above it all!!! And West.................well, he DID nail Boy O'Barry for what he was (or at least ONE thing that he was!!!).............but maybe he doesn't want to 'push the envelope too far', since O'Barry O'Bama IS a 'brutha'...........................and it's really the fault of the WHITE guys on Wall Street anyway!!!!
These dopes are ALL phonies..................
brother Father Pfleger
Submitted by rockyracoon on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 5:38am.
Which one is it. Corny?
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
The Abject ignorance if these two
Submitted by Deskpilot on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 7:15am.
is almost beyond my comprehension range (which is pretty vast)
At NO point did either of these race agitprops EVER mention BHO and what he's not done for/to America. Their ONLY concern was what he was doing for the "about the poor, concerned about working people, jobs, jobs with a living wage," as though the events of inter/national importance had nothing to do with defining the failures of Obama.
It so conveniently serves their racial posturing that Obama is both a viscous liberal as well as being black.
It's no wonder that History and Discovery are my favorite TV channels. Even better, when my daughter was a toddler, she didn't care for anything on PBS that was designed for her age either :-)
monumental waste of time.
Submitted by hughglass on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 9:48am.
If both their brains were gunpowder, they could't blow their noses. Psuedo intellectual doesn't do them justice. How about brainless big word spewers?
These idiots
Submitted by jessieH on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 11:32am.
They mis-spelled Soros. They called him Wall street. They were half right, though. Obama is a puppet.
Guilty white liberals
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 12:07pm.
Evidently the white guilt-racist nonsense still works on a few people--there are many weak minds out there...
Nothing more comical than guilty white liberals.
christian west
Submitted by scarletandgold on Fri, 05/27/2011 - 2:58pm.
you were half right cornell...OBAMA IS NOT A PUPPET!.he is a mascot though,, no, the puppets are that fool you were sitting across the table from...the fools at msnbc are puppets..the democratic stratigists all over the radio and television are puppets..anyone who has a D next to thier name are the puppets...see corny>>may i call u corny..thank you...that fool ass marxist.socialist,facist agenda that the soros puppets are trying to push down the throats of real americans is getting old..racism is getting old...alinsky politics is getting old...in fact corny your mentality is old..we the people will speak and we will speak soon...and then finally americans of all creeds and colors can all shout...FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST! THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WERE FREE AT LAST...
I am calling Justin Crowe AKA Tim Wise's butt kisser out.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 12:43pm.
Justin Crowe: ...studies have found that black children of well-off black families are more likely to be suspended from school for school infractions than children of poor white families...
Time Wise: ...even the children of well-off black families are more likely to be suspended or expelled from school than the children of poor whites...
Hey sock puppet, don't that hand up your butt get sweaty?
I want a link to that study NOW. I can't find one. All I find is idiots like you repeating the race baiter Tim Wise.
Link to that study now so we can look.
That hand up your butt tickle Justin Crowe AKA Tim Wise?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 1:38pm.
Justin Crowe: Job applicants with white sounding names are 50 percent more likely to get call backs...
Tim Wise: ...job applicants ...with white-sounding names are 50 percent more likely than those with black-sounding names to get a callback...
Oops. Tim Wise actually links unlike his sissy sock puppet. Unfortunately, it is hidden behind a pay site. Surprise, oh wait. Not. I found the study HERE. Me. Link. A FREE READABLE LINK.
What about this study?
there is evidence of discrimination, including, for example, discrimination against blacks, Hispanics, and women in the United States (Mincy, 1993; Neumark, 1996; Bertrand and Mullainathan [BM], 2004) --- Wait. I thought it was just blacks with black names?
Only a small percentage of employers in the Bertrand and Mullainathan study seemed to discriminate based on name. Thus, that number of discriminatory employers may not be sufficiently large to affect job market outcomes across the board. --- Didn't say that did you Sock Puppet?
Someone give me $12
There is widespread disagreement about the extent of racial discrimination in American society and often about whether discrimination has occurred in a particular instance. This brief essay considers the reasons for such disagreement, and its implications.
Disputes about the existence of discrimination typically concern practices that do not formally treat people differently solely on the basis of their racial status. Rather, controversies often center on practices that implicate socioeconomic status and culture in addition to race. The intertwining of race on the one hand, and socioeconomic status and culture on the other, will often complicate the identification of "racial discrimination."
In such cases, divergent judgments about whether a practice is racially discriminatory may signify disagreement either about the facts or about the nature of racial discrimination. When on-lookers draw contrary inferences from ambiguous facts, the disagreement is empirical. 1 This sort of disagreement would presumably diminish if the parties had more and better information. Yet, given the practical limitations of fact-finding--the impossibility of knowing precisely why someone made a specific decision or instituted a particular policy--empirical disagreement will often be intractable.
But even if the parties reached consensus about what happened and why, they might nonetheless disagree about the existence of discrimination if they define racial discrimination differently. This sort of disagreement is conceptual, 2 and would be accentuated rather than diminished by stipulation as to the facts. Indeed, conceptual differences are often obscured by the belief that disagreements about the existence of discrimination invariably
Ahhh. I have had enough. As usual, I have to research for a troll that refuses to provide the tiniest of links.
I did a study. I sent out 50 resumes with the name of Douchebag Nadlkicker. And I sent out 50 resumes with the name of John Workforpennies. My study shows the name that parents wisely chose to be John got 88% more callbacks. Racist! White Power!
Aww Vet*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 2:01pm.
You have had enough and I sit here in awe. The Vet has "soldiered out" another lying troll.
Merci mon ami!!!
cajun---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 05/28/2011 - 6:19pm.
While taking nothing away from The Vet's absolutely outstanding work:
I must say, your 11:54 a.m. reply to Justin Crowe was stunningly good.
MD
Absolutely. What md said.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 05/29/2011 - 9:44am.
cajun2's post was honest and from the heart. Two things that are anathema to trolls. The fact is the troll can't point to examples of hard racism in this country because it is by and large a thing of the past. So, like his buddy Tim Rice, he points to the soft racism of statistics. The problem is though you can't look at a set of numbers and hang them solely on racism by white people. There are any number of factors that could go into a set of numbers. But race baiters like this troll only see racism because it is all they look for.