Al Gore Tells Time Magazine Global Warming Skeptics Just As Dim As Birthers
Former vice president Al Gore is as eager as your average liberal on the street in wanting to explore resistance to the persuasiveness of global warming theories. The first problem? If conservatives are so thick in the head, why does the rest of the public need pictures, not just mere words?
In a supportive interview with Bryan Walsh in Time magazine, Gore explained "Years ago I shifted from making speeches about climate to presenting slideshows precisely because the complexity of the material makes it easier to communicate with pictures. Interactive infographics make it easier still." Then came time for "Science," and typically, Gore suggested his opponents are opposed to science, and to truth, just like the "birthers" who don't accept evidence:
TIME: Has the case been conclusively made now on the science of climate change?
GORE: Well, I thought the case was made that Obama was born in the United States...
TIME: That's interesting — you wrote in the 2007 book The Assault on Reason about the increasingly post-truth nature of politics. Is there a way to deal with this on the climate question? Fight it with more facts?
GORE: Buy the app! As Theodore Adorno said, "the conversion of all questions of truth to questions of power has attacked the very heart of the distinction between true and false."
I thought the [birther] issue was receding when I wrote this introduction, but it's a clear example of what's going on. It so closely resembles the willful refusal of climate skeptics to accept the truth of the climate crisis. It's like the Moynihan quote: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts." For me the [climate change] case was made a long time ago. But the political chapter contains one of the most startling facts about this. [He shows an illustration indicating that 19% of college-educated Republicans believe in climate change, compared to 75% of college-educated Democrats.] That difference is astonishing, and it also echoes the birther controversy.
TIME: Has this polarization always been this case?
GORE: No it hasn't.
Gore can't acknowledge that the question of global warming isn't just about "questions of truth," but about questions of power. Democrats believe in climate change in part because the prospect of an environmental catastrophe offers a rationale to employ government power to overhaul our entire energy system. College-educated Republicans don't agree for scientific and political reasons. Just like Newsweek, Time didn't inform the reader that Gore is citing in Adorno a Marxist of the Frankfurt school. Adorno's speaking of the Nazis, and Gore thinks the comparison to conservatives is close enough.
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TIME: Has the case been
Submitted by MightyMouth on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:02pm.
TIME: Has the case been conclusively made now on the science of climate change?
GORE: Well, I thought the case was made that Obama was born in the United States...
What? Huh?? Typical dumb liberal response to a question, bring up something totally unrelated in response. Watch the left hand while the right hand lifts your wallet! Duh!
Whew!
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:27am.
That's a relief! I was thinking, "what am I missing here?" So, I wasn't the only one. :-)
THERE IS NO "CLIMATE CRISIS"!
Submitted by Phryj1 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:07pm.
Gore's the one who wants to ignore the science. When you dismiss facts that don't line up with your worldview and only accept info that supports your preconceived notions, that's confirmation bias. That's what Gore has been doing ever since scientists came forward and started questioning AGW dogma. In fact, the IPCC models themselves were built on confirmation bias. AGW has been BS all along.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Gore, you are IRRELEVANT
Submitted by TexasMom0517 on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:11pm.
So just collect your dividends and be quiet. You and Obama prove that the Nobel Committee is a sham.
Do ever wonder why no one in
Submitted by jdhawk on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:20pm.
Do ever wonder why no one in the lamestream media every actually asks AlBore questions sorrounding the science? Isn't it curious that AlBore has never agreed to debate someone that actually understands the science even though he has been given ample opportunity. Isn't it curious that everytime he gives a speech on the subject, it is closed doors - skeptics not allowed.
By the way, the other day I opened a Cracker Jack box and the "prize" was something called Nobel. Did I get a Nobel prize? AlBore and duhbama each got one and it is worth the equivalnet of what I got out of box of caramel coated popcorn.
Since just about all of us now are some kind of -ers....
Submitted by Chris Norman on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:33pm.
Can we call Gore and his believers, "Warmers"?
I would think that or more apt moniker would
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 10:16am.
Bull Shi%tters.
Due to
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:17am.
their religious zeal for the subject, I like one I heard a while back: "Warmons" (apologies to Mormons everywhere).
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
A@ Chris
Submitted by Samshile on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 3:59pm.
That great!! We have two new namers for the lamers!
Racers and Warmers.
Science is about Up to Date Data. Like in this year of 2011
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 05/02/2011 - 11:34pm.
Sea level is FALLING...
Planet temperatures are FALLING.
MORE Arctic ice still around in ice flows.
Gee it's millions of degrees in side of Gaia, maybe this will save us, ea Al.
You Didn't Build That.
That's why the AGW BS artists started calling it Climate Change
Submitted by Phryj1 on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:16am.
Of course, don't expect them to ever actually explain how REDUCING greenhouse gases, like they're trying to force us to do, is going to help us if we're going into a cooling cycle. Or how man-made greenhouse gases are causing that cooling, especially after they've been telling us they supposedly caused 'catastrophic' levels of warming.
When you look at the facts, man-made climate change theory just falls apart. It's just natural fluctuations in climate, just like there always has been, and always will be.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Of course!
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:30am.
"Climate change" allows them (Warmers) to alter the definition to mean whatever they want it to at any moment under any circumstances. Gotta hand it to them, it's a good tactic.
ALgore = please send some GW to MN
Submitted by merly1 on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 8:44am.
Two straight May days where we struggled to hit 40! Normal high 65.
This after an April that was freezing as well.
If anybody has some GW, please mail to MN,
Tuesday update--->
MN was a whisker yesterday from setting the all-time record low, high temperature for the entire month of May (38 was the lowest high temp ever, in May, in Twin Cities).....................yes, that sounds like the massive global warming bogeyman.
you just don't understand...
Submitted by wizardjr on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 9:00am.
that was the cooling CAUSED by the Global Warming (ROFL)
Will someone PLEASE saw down
Submitted by Rowane on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:17am.
Will someone PLEASE saw down the tree so it can finally STFU?
Sick of this moron polluting the country.
You've got to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. (Aaron Tippin)
Al.......... Are you a "Brrrrrrer"?
Submitted by DeclinesToState on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:52am.
You obviously know a lot about massaging things, but please stick to what you and John Edwards know best. Global warming has morphed into climate change because anecdotal evidence is now against you. May we call you and your ilk "Brrrrrrers"?......... Also if you really are confident about your position, why won't you debate anyone?
Who was dim? It was Barack
Submitted by dscott on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:17am.
Who was dim? It was Barack Obama who got suckered by team Clinton. They sussed out Obama's paranoia about his personal information and used it against him. ONLY a dimwhit would obstinately fight for over 2 years spending millions to prevent the release of information that was in no way derogatory.
Interestingly enough just like Obama being less than transparent about the facts, it took Climategate to force even a marginal incomplete review of the methods used by Mann and others colluding to prevent scientists from reviewing the raw data much less submitting papers for peer review which ran counter to their belief system. Science got a major black eye from the ethical lapses of Mann and Jones.
So yes, there is an equivalence between the obsessively secretive Obama over his birth certificate and AGW hoaxers. Of course Gore the Carbon Credit Billionaire has absolutely no conflict of interest in putting down those who refute and otherwise disbelieve AGW? Time FAILS to PUT THE DISCLAIMER that Al Gore has a vested financial interest in advocating AGW, I call that a major ethical lapse on their part. More crappy, incomplete journalism that is more propaganda and snide opinion foisting itself as snobbish ubergenius.
Al Gore! Is HE still around?
Submitted by Van Halen on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 1:31am.
Al Gore!
Is HE still around?
Belief
Submitted by m1xram on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 3:14am.
If Al Gore believed anything coming from his own mouth, he would not have purchased a $7M beach front home. He wouldn't be burning the planet at both ends. He wouldn't be opening his mouth expelling more greenhouse gas than 10,000 cows synchronously flatulating.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
and
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:19am.
he wouldn't be...Al Gore.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
I am surprised Gore didn't
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 4:49am.
I am surprised Gore didn't take credit for killing Usama Bin Laden. Such an uber-dooche on so many levels it isn't even funny anymore.
Climate change is nothing more than an attempt to create jobs for useless hippies that majored in low demand college classes and/or received grades that normally don't net jobs.
Not much else a biology major can do when they received all C's.
Nothing says lying sack of
Submitted by USA4freedom on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 5:23am.
Nothing says lying sack of $hit like Al Gore tells everyone that the sea level will rise 20 feet, then buys a $9,000,000 oceanfront villa.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, the Republican party.
Technically,
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:37am.
...it's an "ocean view" home, not "oceanfront".
For those of you who don’t live in California, let me explain local real estate terminology.
“Peekaboo ocean view” means you can see the ocean if you stand on a chair and look out the kitchen window.
“Ocean view” means you can see a patch of blue without standing on the chair.
“Oceanfront” means there are actual waves lapping at your back door.
Now, if I only could understand California politics.....Oh, yeah! I remember: anti-business, anti-consumer, anti-cop, anti-freedom; pro-illegal alien, pro-union, pro-taking your money to give to the unproductive.
chasing ghosts
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 6:40am.
I find it significant that when they do polls they still ask if a person BELIEVES in global warming. After all these years of warning and now we are are past the time when we were supposed to be already suffering terrible weather consequences and world wide heating that people still have to take the concept based on what (who) they believe. Perhaps there really are parallel universes and it's in another universe, just like ours, that the planet is heating uncontrollably and that's the one Al is worried about.
Al Gore is a rapist.
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 6:49am.
It's that simple.
Non Sequitur
Submitted by DaChew on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 7:03am.
The fact that Gore answers this question with a complete non sequitur that has nothing to do with the subject of the question is all anyone needs to know about this snake oil salesman.
TIME: Has the case been conclusively made now on the science of climate change?
GORE: Well, I thought the case was made that Obama was born in the United States...
Gore's absurd comparisons
Submitted by Boil It Down on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 7:06am.
To my knowledge, Al Gore has never actually addressed the real opposition to his climate cult. The "deniers" he avoids acknowledgement are those who deny the premise that spending untold billions on questionable science can achieve any measurable difference in climate change. Gore distracts attention from those arguments with silly comparisons like this birther thing to steer clear of answering the questions of how all that money would "fix" the climate.
Essentially, Gore admits that his climate change arguments have little merit with these false comparisons and diversionary tactics.
There is no way I can imagine anyone convincing me that jeopardizing the economies around the world is necessary to support Gore's climate cult. I ain't buyin' it Mr. Flim-Flam Man. -bidn-
Albert "like a rabbit" Gore
Submitted by celator on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 7:24am.
Albert "like a rabbit" Gore should be thankful he isn't doing hard time in a Federal prison for the man made global warming scam he and his buddies pulled off to enrich themselves.
He would be wise to shut his fat yap about global warming and anything else, for that matter. Dumbest VP in the history of the country.
I Disagree:
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:35am.
Joe Biden is the dumbest VP in history.
Al Gore is able to put a complete sentence together. Never mind that it is illogical.
Also it is reported that he can tie his own shoes.
Cuz Al Gore is soooo brilliant
Submitted by Slyrr on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 8:48am.
Yeah. Right. People who question the validity of his global warming hoax are 'dim'.
Because, like, ya knooow, Al Gore is, like soooooo brilliant - and stuff.
Yes, it takes a truly brilliant man to sexually molest massage therapists. Only a brilliant mind like Al Gore's could train his body so that he can only get his jollies while listening to songs that make fun of G.W. Bush.
Truly this world isn't worthy of a colossal intellect like his.
especially if they're faked or reversed
Submitted by wizardjr on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 8:55am.
"... easier to communicate with pictures ..."
Yeah, like the graph he showed flipped backwards implying exactly the opposite of what it really stated - CO2 actually rises about 800 years AFTER temperatures rise, not the other way around.
I'm so glad his quackery has tanked along with the carbon indulgences trading and hopefully his personal fortune. This was a scam from the git-go. The modern Robber Barons had their fingerprints all over this. Government Electric is still picking the public pocket for their god-awful wind turbines though. That needs to end as well.
The scientific method states
Submitted by Richard_Iowa on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 10:00am.
The scientific method states that a hypothesis can never be proven, but can only be disproven. It is the job of the scientist to continually test the hypothesis and if it is ever disproven then the hypothesis must be discarded. A good example is the hypothesis that CO2 levels are responsible for global warming. It has been determined that CO2 levels have risen over the past 15 years from roughly 360 ppm to 385 ppm. But, there have been no statistically significant increases in global temperatures during those same 15 years. I suppose that it is convenient that Mr. Gore has ignored these observations. But, if one adheres to the scientific method then the hypothesis that CO2 causes increases in temperatures must be discarded. BTW, I wonder if 'Ol Al is aware that scientists are still trying to disprove Einstein's theories? Apparently that science is not settled.
When the weather is colder
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 10:30am.
When the weather is colder than normal the weather is just weather. When the weather is hotter, drier, or more violent than normal then the weather is called climate.
We're supposed to ignore weather and fear climate. Got it? ;)
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Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
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A stinging "indictment" from
Submitted by fitzfong on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:09am.
A stinging "indictment" from Al Gore. Kind of speaks for itself, doesn't it? His descent into self-parody continues.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Let me...
Submitted by Meredith1966 on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:13am.
Let me be as succinct as possible...
Al who??
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Thomas Jefferson
Back in the days
Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 11:25am.
before Political Correctness, they used a scale of words (some now considered to be derogatory) to describe mental capacity. The progression went something like this:
Genius - Advanced - Intelligent - Normal - Retarded - Moron - Imbecile - Algore
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Bite Me Algore!!!
Submitted by bigdaddy on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 12:41pm.
Out here in Seattle yesterday we had our coldest May 2nd on record, so how 'bout you STFU Algore!!!
My pal Al
Submitted by deadeyedan on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 5:35pm.
Don't worry, everyone, global warming does cause cooling - well, only if it's "extreme" and George Bush is to blame. That's exactly what Al said during a presentation of his Powerpoint presentation to a New York City audience before it became the docu-melodrama An Inconvenient Truth. It was January 15, 2004 and he had selected a theater in Manhattan on what turned out to be the coldest day in NYC since 1957 and the fourth coldest winter in New England history.
He explained that there was so much warming going on in the tropics that air was rising there on such a scale that it was forming a partial vacuum that was allowing all that cold air up north to rush down to fill the void!
This has happened on every flat, non-rotating planet I've ever studied. And I work at the planetarium theater named for the last astronaut to walk on the moon, the Cernan Earth & Space Center. He then went on to explain that because George Bush was doing nothing to stop global warming, that all that cold they were experiencing that day was an extreme, that it must have been his fault. George Bush was responsible for extremes of weather of every sort. And the audience cheered.
No matter, though, even if because we're on a round, rotating planet that what he described could not possibly happen - unless, of course, the earth's interior was a million degrees. (I forget - when he said that did he mean Fahrenheit or Celsius?) Anyone ever hear of Coriolis Effect?
Climategate - the revelation that the pseudo-scientists at East Anglia University know just as much about the atmosphere as Harvard law professors know about the Constitution - deadeyedan
When its time to vote, wipe these morons off
Submitted by Less1leg on Tue, 05/03/2011 - 5:36pm.
Glib, self righteous bunk is the small aleck remark Gore again drives home the point. Oh, no our famed and annointed Al Gore won't debate actual world climate scientists. Heck no. You just might have to answer questions. And for how many years now has this class act hidden away and not answered any question concerning Climate Change. You couldn't get him to shut up when his hey days were blowing. Gore was in schools, Gore was on TV, Gore was on MSNBC. Gore was pretty well everyplace telling us all about Climate Change and we were all doomed.
Well, the bottom fell out of the story line, his media teams have basically told him to shut up, and don't answer questions. But time is rolling on, and the questions are still there and Gore is waiting it out to hide his lies. They sold a lot of snake oil stuff to young kids in schools, cheated on all types of grants. Built a news journalism slant that networks poured hundreds of billions of dollars in to sell Climate Change to the masses, but the masses found out it was a scam before the big payoff came Al Gore's way.
Top Green Admits: “We Are
Submitted by dscott on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:12am.
Top Green Admits: “We Are Lost!”
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/05/03/top-green-admits-w...
Let's face it: none of our environmental fixes break the planet-wrecking project
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/02/environmental-fixes-...
Whose the Dimwit now?
Algore is in Hawaii
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 1:36pm.
One would expect this sort of thing in Colorado up high on the mountain passes... However in Hawaii in MAY, icy roads and snow.
You Didn't Build That.