Forget the Cold War Victory: NPR Still Thinks U.S. Suffered from Too Much Fear of Communism
National Public Radio is celebrating its 40th anniversary this year. In 1971, it began at the height of "anti-war" fervor against the U.S. government and its immoral war-mongering. That flavor remains at NPR to this day. Last Sunday, NPR anchor Noah Adams reminded listeners of the Bay of Pigs invasion, and naturally, the theme was anti-communist paranoia:
NOAH ADAMS: Today, April 17th, marks exactly 50 years since one of the biggest disasters in American foreign policy: the Bay of Pigs Invasion of 1961.
JIM RASENBERGER (Author, "The Brilliant Disaster"): You know, I think the thing that you have to keep in mind when you ask yourself how did this ever happen is the extraordinary fear of communism in the United States in the late '50s and early '60s.
ADAMS: Historian Jim Rasenberger has written a book about that time.
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ADAMS: And he says it all started when the American government began to think Fidel Castro, leader of the revolution in Cuba, was looking more and more like the communists of the Soviet Union.
RASENBERGER: It wasn't just a fear that communism was spreading, but that communists had nuclear weapons.
Adams devoted an entire second segment to promoting Rasenberger's theories of incompetent warmongering. We apparently still belong in an era of "troubled interventions" -- which implied there shouldn't be any American interventions. The Cold War isn't somehow won, but it remains a chilling episode of "inordinate fear of communism," immoral militarism, and patriotic hubris:
ADAMS: At the top of this hour, we heard from Jim Rasenberger, who's written a new book about the Bay of Pigs. It's called "The Brilliant Disaster." It's an hour-by-hour account of the invasion and the events that led up to it. He says even today, the Bay of Pigs remains one of the most important events in American history.
RASENBERGER: Well, it really was the beginning of an era that we still live in today of troubled interventions. You know, before the Bay of Pigs, it would have been a fairly skeptical or cynical American who doubted that he lived in a country that was run by competent men engaged in worthwhile enterprises. But the Bay of Pigs changed that.
Not only did it appear immoral to many people, but it also was incompetent. I sort of see it as the beginning of the Vietnam era even before the Vietnam War really took off. The aspect of questioning authority that would go on through the Vietnam era really began with the Bay of Pigs.
ADAMS: A lot of the conventional thinking, when you look back on it, about the Bay of Pigs, puts the CIA up as the aggressors who push Kennedy, the new president, to move forward with the invasion. You say that's not really quite how it happened.
RASENBERGER: No, it's more complicated than that. It is true that the CIA pushed the operation. The part that I take issue with is that they somehow tricked or fooled the president.
My take on it is that John Kennedy went forward with the Bay of Pigs largely because he could see no way not to go forward with it. He had run against Richard Nixon beating the Eisenhower administration over the head with Castro.
And when he came into office and then was handed this plan, it would have been very difficult for him to say, you know, I don't think I'm going to do this. He had a lot of doubts about it, a lot of concerns about it, but he never could figure out a way not to do it.
ADAMS: To speak to what went wrong, Fidel Castro had airplanes the CIA didn't know about, air cover wasn't there, there was a second airstrike that people thought was going to happen. And what was the tipping point in this disaster?
RASENBERGER: In most people's minds, it was the cancellation by John Kennedy of the second airstrike. Now, I have to go back and explain. On April 15th, eight Cuban exile B-26s took off from Nicaragua and flew to Cuba and bombed Cuban airfields trying to destroy Castro's air force. It was always understood that Castro had to have no airplanes for this to work.
Those airstrikes knocked out a number of planes, but they left about half a dozen, maybe seven, planes. There were supposed to be follow-up airstrikes on the morning of April 17th as the invasion was beginning. But John Kennedy at the last moment, on the evening of April 16th, canceled these. And this essentially left the brigade marooned on this beach that they had just taken. Once those second airstrikes were canceled, and Castro was left with his airplanes, the game was basically over. The brigade was doomed at that point.
Oddly, NPR's Adams encouraged Rasenberger to insist that this failed invasion was a military loss, but a political victory. JFK somehow deserved credit for rattling half a saber and losing:
ADAMS: You raise a very intriguing prospect here that Kennedy may have thought it was going to be a bad idea, wanted to do it anyway, it would give him a great deal of power. He didn't really want to occupy Cuba, which you would have to do if you won, with American troops.
Mr. RASENBERGER: He was caught between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, as I said, he had to go forward. On the other hand, he was very concerned about lighting a match that would spark a great conflagration with the Soviet Union, start a nuclear war.
And he knew that if the American hand showed in this, Khrushchev would then be forced for his own reasons to retaliate, and then he would have to retaliate in kind, and onward it might go.
So as some people said afterwards, he got the best-case scenario. He went forward with it, so he looked like he was strong on communism, and yet it failed, so he didn't have to deal with some terrible consequences that might have followed had it succeeded.
ADAMS: There have been comparisons about what's going on in Libya today to the Bay of Pigs. A headline in The New York Times this past week read: U.S. groups helped nurture Arab opposition. Are there lessons from the Bay of Pigs that you can truly apply to what's going on in the Middle East?
Mr. RASENBERGER: One lesson would be - certainly would apply to Iraq would be: Don't assume when we go into another country that immediately, the locals will all come and gather behind our cause.
We also have to remember, and I think this may apply to Libya, we don't know: The cure may be worse than the disease. And indeed, it was. Castro became far more powerful after the invasion. He became more closely tied to the Soviet Union after the invasion.
Those are two big lessons. You know, in the Kennedy administration, these were people famously known as the best and the brightest. They were all supremely confident, supremely successful people. One of the lessons I take from it is maybe it would be wise for presidents to have a few people in their administrations who weren't supreme successes, just people maybe more acquainted with, you know, the possibilities of things not going well.
ADAMS: Jim Rasenberger, his new book is "The Brilliant Disaster: JFK, Castro and America's Doomed Invasion of Cuba's Bay of Pigs." Thank you, sir.
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Defund the NPR!
Submitted by Tuari on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 7:00pm.
Get rid of those commie b@57@rds. :P
A charismatic incompetent
Submitted by Dan Diego on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 7:13pm.
A charismatic incompetent leader, hmmmm, that sounds familiar.
Rasenberger Seems to Be Saying
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 7:17pm.
Not that American leaders are incompetent but that Kennedy and his elite "best and brightest" were incompetent. Elite ruling class types being incompetent doesn't exactly come as a shock. We see that pretty regularly in history. And we really see it in spades nowadays.
Resume' Buster
Submitted by jcpenny on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 7:17pm.
Anyone who suggests that the POTUS hire failures because they understand it, is a moron: "One of the lessons I take from it is maybe it would be wise for presidents to have a few people in their administrations who weren't supreme successes, just people maybe more acquainted with, you know, the possibilities of things not going well."
Successful people have more failures than failures do. Fact.
JFK had limited information and proved indecisive. I don't fault him for that. It was a different time than we have today. The fault lies in the armchair quarterbacking of a local intervention 50 years ago and somehow comparing it to an intervention on the other side of the world in the 21st century. NPR should be ashamed to play book publicist for this bafoon.
But as the left re-writes history to read that fear of communism pushed us to precipice of ruin, I am concerned that far too many of those that weren't there will buy it. Seems, shockingly, like a way to soften the Socialist plans the Left has for the US. Make the fear of communism look bad and then move towards it.
And Obama speaks to Community College students and tells them that the State will take more from them. Generally applauded by NPR, the MSM -- and the audience.
I fear they are winning this battle with the Twitter generation.
jcp
Who knew communists could
Submitted by Thoreau on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 7:48pm.
Who knew communists could look worse with an NPR endorsement.
ONE HUNDRED MILLION DEAD PEOPLE DISAGREE
Submitted by rogue operator on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 8:29pm.
Communists, socialists, and other collectivists murdered approximately one hundred million people in the twentieth century. Maybe their victims didn't fear such ideologies enough?
Americans have a healthy distrust of government, and they reject eggheaded elites who think the problem with collectivist systems is "they just weren't done right." No thanks to communism, pretentious scumbags.
Indoctrinated NPR promoting failed Communism still
Submitted by Boil It Down on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 9:05pm.
Are Adams and Raseberger still in their first year of Political Science at some leftist University? That's what their conversation sounds like to me.
If we had feared Communism enough we probably wouldn't be plagued with so much socialism and so many socialists in our government today. Keynesian-ism might even have been properly buried, which would have prevented some of the big government debacles we suffer now.
No, the chilling effect of those screaming McCarthyism are to blame for the United States not fearing Communism nearly enough. Noah Adams, Jim Rasenberger and NPR have it exactly 180 degrees backward, which of course, is to be expected. Not to fear a philosophy which has devastated economies and killed so many shows a lack of self preservation. (aka stupidity) Perhaps it just shows a lack of maturity which will be remedied when they grow up and learn about the world.
By the way, before anyone jumps on me about Adams an Rasenberger really being "all growed up and haired out" liberals with history at NPR and Vanity Fair... I know. I was just pointing out their lack of maturity despite their years. -bidn-
Immoral? Perhaps.
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 10:02pm.
Immoral? Probably. Unconstitutional? Absolutely.
Laughable
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 04/24/2011 - 1:03am.
There's nothing like a poster whining something is "unconstitutional" when the poster himself has repeatedly indicated that the Constitution does not mean s*** to him.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Like that foul "advice" from
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 04/23/2011 - 11:06pm.
Like that foul "advice" from rapists to their victims, many radicals thought that we shouldn't fight communism, that it was inevitable and we shouldn't have fought back and just surrendered and "enjoyed it".
Too much fear of communism?
Submitted by big.league.slider on Sun, 04/24/2011 - 12:18am.
In retrospect, maybe the country's concern over the threat from communism was overblown. History has shown us conclusively that all collectivist forms of government (fascism, socialism, communism, etc.) are eventually doomed to failure. Democrat John Kennedy did not understand the validity of the threat posed by communism, as evidenced by his willingness to engage the Soviets in a nuclear conflict during the Cuban missile crisis.
The only president that fully understood the actual threat posed by communism was Reagan. He saw that the best way to defeat communism was by unleashing the devastating power of free market capitalism on the communists. What 35 years of cold war military conflict could not resolve, Reagan achieved in less than 8 years without firing a shot. Sun-Tzu would have been proud.
Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs is identical to Obama and Libya. He wants to be able to deny involvement if it goes bad, but take credit if it goes well.
The EVIL Republicans.....
Submitted by CSM on Sun, 04/24/2011 - 7:55am.
"My take on it is that John Kennedy went forward with the Bay of Pigs largely because he could see no way not to go forward with it. He had run against Richard Nixon beating the Eisenhower administration over the head with Castro."
Those evil Republicans made him do it. This must be a very early version of "Bush Derangement Syndrome" . We did not know what to call it then but we do now. We should have all seen this coming. But hey JFK recovered in true Democratic fashion and left the freedom fighters to die on the beaches and the survivors jailed in communist Cuba. They should at least give him credit for that.
"...terrible consequences that might have followed had it succeeded."
Yeah like a free and democratic Cuba and all of the befefits thereof. What a tragedy that would have been. Well for the Democrats at least.
They don't want the USA to have these benefits in the here and now let alone 60 years ago in Cuba.
Defund NPR and watch over your freedoms as they are being taken away one at a time.
Pol Pot was an avid "all
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sun, 04/24/2011 - 8:53am.
Pol Pot was an avid "all things considered" listener,
You had to have been there...
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sun, 04/24/2011 - 11:33am.
I remember the “Air Raid Drills” as a kid… the ones where we children were told to hide under our (flimsy) desks until the “All Clear” sounded.
Some may consider that institutional ‘paranoia’… but at the time, The Soviet Union, under the direction of Nikita (“We will bury you.”) Khrushchev was attempting to place nuclear weapons just 80 miles off our shores… I’ll give you a clue – those weapons were never intended to be aimed at Bermuda.
Left-leaning newspeople try to make communism palatable.
Submitted by Phryj1 on Sun, 04/24/2011 - 3:22pm.
After all, their poli-sci professors told them it was so great, so they can't understand why most Americans want nothing to do with it. Once again, the tired, old meme that we're just afraid of it comes into play. We just don't get it like they do, because we're scared and ignorant. It couldn't possibly because communism is a really, really bad idea, could it? It couldn't have anything to do with the tyranny, gulags, and bread lines, right? Or the whole "never being able to enjoy the fruits of your labor and everything you do must be for the greater good of 'the people'" (no wonder the left likes it so much) mentality the underlies communism, that can't be it, can it? They won't ever address that, though. It's easier for them to just accuse us of acting out of fear, like they always do.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.