Ground Zero Imam: There Was No 'Defensible Opposition to Us'
The "On Faith" page of The Washington Post website is plugging an interview with controversial Ground Zero Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a brief chat with a very agreeable Sally Quinn, with a modicum of slightly tougher questioning from her atheist pal Jacques Berlinerblau, a professor at Georgetown. The professor asked if during the mega-mosque controversy he found himself thinking of his opponents, "That was a reasonable criticism, I can agree with that."
The imam firmly denied that: "There was no logically correct, or critically correct, or defensible opposition to us. The only opposition that they kept repeating was that we were insensitive to the feelings of 9/11 families. So the only thing I would have done differently would have been to have prepared more the 9/11 family members."
The interview just moved on from there without follow-up, as the Imam claimed to represent the "authenticity of Islamic thought" and that "Sharia completely in sync with American principles," which should have drawn a stronger dissent from the atheist who prizes church-state separation.
In the blog entry accompanying the interview, Sam Dinger was still defending the Imam from conservatives:
Lost in the debate over the "Ground Zero Mosque" was the fact that Imam Rauf had become an indispensable voice for moderate American Muslims, sent by both Presidents Bush and Obama to be an American ambassador to Muslim nations.
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I would have questioned the
Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:36am.
I would have questioned the possible terrorist about the goings on in every Euopean country regarding the explosion of muslim immigrants and their absolute refusal to assimilate into the culture and laws of their host country.
The Obama administration, through the MSM propaganda apparatus have done a stellar job at hiding the truth about muslims and their true intentions of ruling the world from the American people. Though enough people now know, thanks to Imam Rauf's combative, anti American rants, exactly what islam is all about.
We need islam and their stone age view of the world, like we need Obama in our White House for the next two years, or worse yet, another term.
When Barack is gone, replaced by a president that puts the best interests and citizens of the United States above all others, instead of the other way around as Barack continues to do, we will once more be relatively safe from the prospect of a terror attack from without or within, especially from our own supposed president.
How can We the People expect to be kept safe while the man that is charged with the safety of every mam, woman and child in America commands his administration to lie directly to our faces, while grossly distorting & covering up the truth about the openly stated intentions of islam and their collective desire to annhilate us.
The events of this past weekend where two American soldiers were murdered and others injured by a confessed islamic ji hadist, yet the president will not allow his folks to be honest with the American people.
He cares more for the feelings of the terrorists than the lives of the American people....that is not acceptable, to my way of thinking anyway.
Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...
Her atheist pal......a
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 9:46am.
Her atheist pal......a professor at Georgetown. How does this happen? I thought Georgetown was a Jesuit run school.
I don't pay attention to those that praise Islam. So I cherry picked one statement to comment on. The MSM does that all the time
ricklail
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:15am.
Kind of sad, but Catholic Universities tend to be Catholic "in name only" anymore.
By the way, I was trying to
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:54am.
By the way, I was trying to give you a bit of hope with Nova yesterday. But, it does not look good for a seat at the big dance. The loss to Pitt hurt. The only way they make it now is to win the Big East tournament.
Back to the athiest. The Southern Baptist seminaries were in the same shape at one time. Hiring professors that didn't believe the Bible or were agnostics. When the conservative took over the convention many years ago this type of professors were sent packing. One of them could very well been this guy. Many years ago the NC Baptist stopped supporting Wake Forest for reasons like that. They were not willing to hold to the Baptist tradditons. I remember them inviting commies to speak on campus. Other states like Texas cut Baylor and Tennesee cut Vandy, just to name a few. Just recently NC cut ties with all the Baptist schools in the state. They wanted to hire their own board of governance. The state convention had always appointed them. So let them have their schools and the money given to them could go elsewhere.
I understand that Notre Dame still has high standards for moral actions like Brigham Young U does. They don't seem to me to be holding the professors there to high standard when it comes to the doctrine of the church.
Then I looked at Miami U. They don't seem to have any standards at all. Any school that hired Donna Shalala should be kicked out of the Catholic church. Not that familiar with Boston College but I they are like the others IMO. They might hold to the tradtions of the worships and all but they sure don't hold to the morals of the church.
My freind I am not picking on the Catholic school alone. Most demoninations that support schools let them run wild. In that case I think of DOOK. At one time they did have high moral standards based on the Methodist. Today they are no better that East Carolina U of as I call it Party U.
BYU upholds a very strict moral code. There may be others like Wheaton but they are few and far between.
I remember the change in the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:58am.
I remember the change in the SBC and the seminaries the SBC supported. We really had to clean house and were called all manner of names and people complained. We were told Jesus wouldn't do this and people said we were taking over the SBC by force. Then we made the professors sign statements of faith to teach our budding young pastors.
The current fight over our nation and states reminds me of the SBC problems and fight,
Agreed, Radical. One need
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:03am.
Agreed, Radical. One need only look at the Land o' Lakes statement to realize that it started a long time ago and is in full flower.
I have a good friend who is a big..I mean HUGE admirer of Notre Dame and believes it to be the gold standard of a Catholic college. I recommended she look up the above statement and conference, and she was positively stunned when she read it!
At one time the Baptist
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:24am.
At one time the Baptist schools required students to attend chapel at least once a week. Are students at ND not required to attend mass? I know they are not at Miami because look at the sad shape it is in with Shalala and all.
Here in NC the Baptist schools wanted it both ways. They wanted the money but they didn't want to uphold the morals and traditions. So they were all cut loose. Years ago there is no way the people givimg to the Southern Baptist would have put up with an Islamic Student organization on any of the campuses.
Rick
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:56am.
scUM is a non-sectarian university. Always has been that way. It was started during the big land boom in South Florida. Perhaps you're thinking of Miami/Ohio?
At the time, there was UF, for white males, FSU for white females (this is why we Gators call it SOW or School of Women, aka Clown School), as well as FAMU for black men.
Shalala is still a putz.
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That is good to know it is
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 3:22pm.
That is good to know it is not affiliated with the Catholic church. I don't know why I thought that.
When I was young there was Belmont Abbey in Belmont, NC for men and Sacred Hearts for women. All that is left now is the Abbey. Many people that went there told me that the priests really cared for them and their education. I know at one time the students were required to attend mass.
mb and rick
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:56am.
Catholic Universities don't require students to attend Mass because they are open and welcoming to all faiths. At my daughter's orientation there were a variety of seminars parents could attend. One of them was about Islam. Very sad. I'm born and bred Roman Catholic but sometimes I think I have more in common with born again Christians (as far as morals and lifestyle) than the Catholics in my parish.
After Notre Dame had Obama, a pro abortion politician speak at commencement, they lost a lot of credibility with me. There was a Bishop who protested the activities of a Catholic University, http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=32322 however, i don't hink it did much good.
It was a tough loss last night rick. But 'Nova's never been a true number one contender. I'm always happy when they get into the Sweet 16. My daughter is a freshman and it would have been a lot of fun for her, maybe next year.
He's talking like a liberal...
Submitted by notinstl on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:14am.
...act and talk as if something is true, and it becomes true....or at least that's how the liberal media will report it.
"[...] So the only thing I
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:14am.
"[...] So the only thing I would have done differently would have been to have prepared more the 9/11 family members."
I think he spelled "bribed" wrong.
Sounds threatening
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:59am.
I took it as a threat. Kinda like "stop b!tching about us or else."
This is Islam we're talking about, it's their way or death, no highway involved.
-Jon
Yeah, I thought about using a
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 1:51pm.
Yeah, I thought about using a stronger word, but settled on "bribed".
I wouldn't expect
Submitted by spepper on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:22am.
I wouldn't expect an atheist professor, from Georgetown or anywhere else for that matter, to have the immediate intellectual grasp necessary to refute the part about "Sharia is in sync with America principles", since they apparently dedicate themselves to simply dismissing any religion as unintellectual pursuits.......
No defenceable opposition?
Submitted by NVRAT on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:58am.
Its obvious you have not talked to real Americans. You can take your Sharia Law, your Mosques, your Authenticity, your Muslim Idealogy, and your Alla and shove them where the sun don`t shine. I thought I would simplify the thoughts of Americans and ignore the MSM coddling of your barbaric idealogy...go back to the 14 century. Better yet DROP DEAD!
"No defensible opposition"
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:29am.
Translation: It's impossible to present any defense of opposition that we will accept.
" Ground Zero imam "
Submitted by sarge329 on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:30am.
My understanding of the facts is this: 1) there are over 100 mosques in the NYC metropolitan area. 2) The " Ground Zero " area is a commercial/industrial area; no residences. 3) The " Ground Zero " site is where many of the dead are still entombed. It is, for all intents and purpose, considered by many to be sacred ground. Now, as to point 1, what is the need for another? It seems to be a " coals to Newcastle " scenario. Point 2, why build a " religious center " if if it is not in a residential area? Point 3, you don't build a church/mosque/synagogue in a cemetery. It's just not done. Now, on the reverse, non-believers are not even allowed to set foot in the holy Muslim cities of Mecca and Medina. If you are not a devout Muslim, your presence is absolutely FORBIDDEN. So much for religious tolerance. If I have stated any facts or made any statements that are not absolutely true, then by all means, feel free to correct me. I would hate to make any false, misleading, or otherwise incorrect statements. I leave that up to the LSM, and the WH press office. They are far better suited to that task and have much more experience than I do.
I am going to post this again
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 11:44am.
I am going to post this again from the Hillsdale College Imprimis by Brain Kennedy. The first pragraphs speak volumes about where this Muslims are coming from.
Thanks, rick; I didn't see
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 12:50pm.
Thanks, rick; I didn't see that last time.
I was struck by this:
Organizationally, Islam is built around a belief in God or Allah, but it is equally a political ideology organized around the Koran and the teachings of its founder Muhammad.
I think it's also a culture, which gives them an "in" to the public schools. They portray it as simply children learning about another "culture." Cultural diversity.
If they can use that excuse to teach kids about praying towards Mecca, and Ramadan, then the Catholic Church should be allowed to go into schools and teach the Rosary and the Stations of the Cross, as well as have kids attend Mass.
But no, Catholicism is religion, and Islam is "culture."
Go figure.
And there it is.
Submitted by Ashrak on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 12:01pm.
This is the exact point that people have to learn about Islam itself. Islam itself teaches this point and drives it home. Islam is unquestionable, well so Islam declares. It's very home, its base, MECCA, cannot even be entered by a Nonmuslim.
This unquestionability is not a political talking point. It is a staple, a mainstay. Islam was manufactured to be unquestionable on any point.
Folks had better wake up and take notice.
"So the only thing I would
Submitted by tcm14 on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 1:45pm.
"So the only thing I would have done differently would have been to have prepared more the 9/11 family members."
Yeah buddy, because those people are just DYING to talk to you. The arrogance of the imam, to say he could somehow educate the victims' families into accepting an insult to the memory of their loved ones. And this is a moderate? Why doesn't he educate the jihadists who continue to launch attacks against innocent civilans?
No " defensible opposition to us?"
Submitted by Thalpy on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 1:54pm.
There are countless reasons for opposition to mosques being built in the United States. Irreconcilable differences exist between Islam and any other religion or culture of the world. Multicultural nonsense has made those who would destroy us welcome. They are not welcome! We cannot continue accommodating those who would damage or destroy us. Enough!
Vile Jihadi
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 03/06/2011 - 10:01pm.
You will erect this Rabat on our soil only over our dead bodies.
Would that Congress had declared war upon all Islam, for that is what this struggle really is.
Islam must be outlawed.
Submitted by JLin on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 12:11pm.
Period. It is toxic to human civilization.