PBS Host Tavis Smiley Bizarrely Claims 'You Lie' Comment to Obama Our 'Greatest Moment of Incivility'
On his PBS talk show on Tuesday, Tavis Smiley brought on liberal Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz to discuss the Tucson shooting, but he was still reliving the much tinier, nonviolent nightmare of Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) yelling "You lie!" at President Obama during a September 2009 address to Congress to sell ObamaCare. He suggested it was the greatest moment of incivility in the history of the House of Representatives.
This would seem to be skipping incidents like Rep. Preston Brooks of South Carolina savagely beating Sen. Charles Sumner with his cane over slavery in 1856. The History Channel says "Brooks became an instant hero in the South, and supporters sent him many replacement canes." (Or there's the Puerto Rican terrorists shooting up the place and wounding five House members in 1956...) But Smiley was adamant:
Clearly, no one was shot, nobody lost his or her life in this process, but it's hard to find a greater moment of incivility in the history of the House than when your colleague on the other side of the aisle, Mr. Wilson, stood up in the president's speech, President Obama's speech, and said, "You lie" for the nation and the world to hear. If ever there were a moment of incivility in our politics, it was that moment.
The president accepted his apology rather quickly, and for whatever reasons, and I'm not casting aspersion, I'm just calling the facts as they are, the president at that moment, is my point, chose not to use that as a teachable moment to talk to us about incivility. We know now he's on his way to Arizona to speak tomorrow night and to console the victims and their families, et cetera. So should the president now take this opportunity -- he hasn't said anything as yet -- about civility? Should he talk about that now?
Smiley's support for Obama overlooked the fact that Obama called his opponents a liar in his own speech that night: "Some of people’s concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim...that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Such a charge would be laughable if it weren’t so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple." Apparently, it's still "civility" if you call your opponents liars from the podium, just not from the peanut gallery. But of course, the congresswoman agreed:
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: Yes, in short. We have had - without singling individuals out, but we have had presidents in the recent past [Bush, anyone?] miss opportunities to bring the nation together and to -- who have not taken advantage of the turning point that an incident like this is.
We really are, Tavis, at a turning point right now. This is an opportunity that Gabby Giffords, as well as I know her, and
as strongly as I know she feels about the importance of moderation and civility and measuring our words carefully and not whipping people up into a frenzy, all the while advocating our views vigorously, I know Gabby will want the president and will want us to use this opportunity to bring the nation together and to, again, be the example of the kind of democracy that the Founding Fathers envisioned, and take the violent language, the violent symbolism and the violent rhetoric out of our discourse.
Then Smiley shifted into mocking gun rights and its backers in Arizona:
SMILEY: Speaking of Founding Fathers, they gave us the right to bear arms, and Arizonans love the right to bear their arms. The numbers are out and everybody's talking about it. The Monday following this shooting, gun sales in Arizona, up 60 -- six-zero -- percent from a year ago. Is that the answer?
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: I personally don't think arming ourselves is the answer. Again, as Gabby's friend, she is a gun owner, she supports the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms, but this is certainly not -- the response to this should not be arming ourselves to the teeth. The response to this should be for us to find a way to make our democracy better, to figure out how to disagree without turning our opponents into the enemy.
This was just a day before the Congresswoman went on CBS Evening News on Wednedsay night and talked about her daughter asking if Mommy was going to get shot by border-control fanatics:
After my daughter heard that, you know, Gabby had been shot, the first thing she asked me was, you know, 'Mommy, are you going to get shot? Does that mean you're going to get shot?' And then I, you know, did my best to reassure her, tell her, 'No, you know, Mommy takes precautions. You've been to my meetings. You know we have, we take steps to make sure that we're all safe.' But then the next thing she said to me was – and this is where you don't realize how closely they're watching – 'But Mommy, Florida's going to pass an immigration law like Arizona and then people are going to be mad at you.' You know, they're paying attention. The civil discourse is very important because it's not just – it's not just adults that – that this permeates. It's our children.
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He forgot about Congressman
Submitted by ant on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 4:49pm.
He forgot about Congressman Bob Etheridge choking a student reporter. Oh, that's right, attacks on peasants don't count.
Right now good ole Bob " who
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:08pm.
Right now good ole Bob " who are you" Etheridge is back in Lillington, NC waiting on his unemployement check.
Ricklail
Submitted by ant on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:14pm.
That's good news! I found out Mr. " I don't care about the Constitution" whatsisname is also sending out resumes. What was his name? Oh well, who cares?
Simple.
Submitted by Ashrak on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 4:50pm.
That they cannot dispute to dispel the truth Joe Wilson brought to bear just drives them crazy.
What is uncivil is continuing with the lies.
Smiley told another lie. I
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:10pm.
Smiley told another lie. I don't recall Joe Wilson standing up. He must not remember B-1 Bob Dornin. He didn't hold back when it came to talking about Clinton. I wish B-1 Bob was still around. He'd shut these idiots up.
'But Mommy, Florida's going
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 4:53pm.
'But Mommy, Florida's going to pass an immigration law like Arizona and then people are going to be mad at you."
Does this remind anybody of Jimma Kotter asking Amy for advise on nuclear weapons?
When wiil they see that it was Obama and the liberals that tore this country apart? These are 2 that keep tearing this country apart. What is Obama going to say on civility? Get in their face and argue. Bring a gun to a knife fight.
More evidence that Debbie
Submitted by talkradio55 on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:16am.
More evidence that Debbie Wasserman Schultz is stupid to the core. She couldn't power a 20-watt bulb. Seriously, using your children to slander people and enshrine your lies.
Let's start w/ Tavis, himself. Tavis, the intolerant bigot.
Submitted by Gary Hall on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 4:55pm.
Let's start w/ Tavis, himself. Tavis, the intolerant bigot.
Ayaan Hirsi's story is quite compelling.. in case you haven't run across this brave woman.
(video clip) PBS's Tavis Smiley promoting intolerance and touting lies
Author Ayaan Hirsi Ali, talking about radical Muslims:
“Somehow, the idea got into their minds that to kill other people is a great thing to do and that they would be rewarded in the hereafter.”
Host Tavis Smiley: “But Christians do that every single day in this country.”
Ali: “Do they blow people up every day?”
Smiley: “Yes. Oh, Christians, every day, people walk into post offices, they walk into schools, that’s what Columbine is — I could do this all day long....There are folk in the Tea Party, for example, every day who are being recently arrested for making threats against elected officials, for calling people ‘nigger’ as they walk into Capitol Hill, for spitting on people. That’s within the political — that’s within the body politic of this country.”
A few points -- "every single day?" - "in this county?" - What did Columbine have to do with Christians? Two whacked out kids. Just when was the last time that there was story about a Christian, in this country, killing someone, or blowing someone up (in this country) in the name of Christianity?
Just one example Tavis - not to mention 365 a year?
Anyone see a Christian walk into a Mosque wearing a suicide vest and blowing up innocent civilians? Anywhere? In this country?
I think that it is a given now, that the event he refers to on the Capitol Hill steps did not occur - a purely fabricated story - unfortunately w/legs, because of hate mongering folks like Tavis.
Tavis Smiley meets the definition of an intolerant bigot.
(;~/ gary
Yeah.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:00pm.
What Gary said!
Gary
Submitted by ricklail on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:02pm.
I would be willing to bet the collective IQ of Smiley and Wasserman-Shultz would not equal the wins Richard Petty had in his career.
I would be surprised if they surpassed
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:10pm.
Kyle's
Ayaan
Submitted by well99 on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:24pm.
Is probably wondering who would give this racist a show.Tavis is such a pathetic liar I am just surprised he isnt on MSNBC.Just a note:
"Ayaan Hirsi's story is quite compelling.. in case you haven't run across this brave woman."
Your right about that.I saw her on a different show.
YES! Tavis was a hater
Submitted by Tim Graham on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:31pm.
Thanks, Gary, for that screaming point about Smiley's lack of civility. I certainly could have mentioned that one!
Tim.. thanks
Submitted by Gary Hall on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:39pm.
Tim, thanks. I'm uncomfortable finding myself feeling the need to express such a view; it's very painful, indeed. However, with the national MSM not feeling the need to ask radical voices of hate and intolerance to calm it down, what's a good guy to do?
If only someone on Fox would invite Smiley on, for a talk on civilty and ask him to respond to this.
(;~> gary
PS - "was?"
Gary Hall destroys Smiley.
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 12:29am.
I don't watch his PBS show, but I've heard him enough times to know he is capable of reasoned, civil discourse. But, you nailed him with that segment. Smiley's disgraceful sermon on Christian violence was utter nonsense.
Jer
Yes boys and girls Tavis
Submitted by Reaver on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 6:46pm.
Yes boys and girls Tavis “could do this all day long”
But......
Submitted by almostacowboy on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 4:58pm.
....he was lying.
PBS and NPR. The clock is
Submitted by Thoreau on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:02pm.
PBS and NPR. The clock is ticking leeching scum.
Selective Outrage Syndrome.
Submitted by cestes on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:05pm.
I respectfully disagree. The movie made depicting the assination of a sitting president is far more disturbing. Can one imagine the reaction if the shoe were on the other foot? I'm sure that would never happen as conservatives tend to have more tact and decency.
I guess this moron forgot about the dressing down that
Submitted by virginia republican on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:05pm.
Dear Leader administered to the Supreme Court justices that same night. Oh, I forgot. Obama was a part time law school lecturer, so obviously he's much better qualified in the legal field than a mere Justice of the Supreme Court.
Obama himself
Submitted by Vic138 on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:06pm.
has been uncivil in his constant use of violent metaphors and remember when he dissed the supreme court during the last state of the union?
Besides, the "You Lie!" comment was later proven to be true.
What about all the crap being tossed at palin or bachman (or pretty much any republican or radio host)?
What about all the sh!t said about bush, or all the blaming of bush for everything by obama?
This infighting is crazy. I have zero confidence that our 'leaders' could sit down and even agree on what the problem is, or that a problem even exists.
Tavis has convenient gaps in his memory
Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:17pm.
One of many times President Bush was booed by Democrats during speeches ... this time during his 2005 SOTU speech.
http://bit.ly/hq1Ga0
And it got much worse than that.
Man, Little Debbie Horsefacerman-Schultz is really all over
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:23pm.
the place lately.
She running for something? Book? Looking for a grooming?
Evidently the competency bar...
Submitted by Sadder-but-wise... on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:24pm.
...for getting your own talk show is set rather low at PBS.
Do these guys not have producers that at least claim to care about accuracy?
Smiley
Submitted by RightRealDeal on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:29pm.
The greatest moment(s) of incivility are the lies of the Obama administration.
What say you about The not so
Submitted by TCinAZ on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:51pm.
What say you about The not so New Black Panther Party's words and deeds, Tavis?
yeah, that's what I thought you'd say.
Smelley is only pissed off
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 6:37pm.
Smelley is only pissed off because racist liberals have an aversion to the truth, it makes them violently ill, with vomiting involved.
My favorite actual lie on the House floor, was the Ass Clown himself lying directly to the real American people ( while the justices were forced to sit in silence right in front of this coward ) about the Supreme Court of the United States of America concerning the Citizens United Ruling allowing foreign corporations and governments to decide our elections.
An especially poinient moment in the Ass Clown's career, considering the fact he had personally sold half of our childrens and all of our grandchildrens futures to the Chinese up to that point and was in the process of brokering a back room deal with the democrats to kill off most of the old people in this country before they would ever see a dime of Medicaire they've paid into for the past 40 years.
Yes America just like Allstate, You're in good hands with ' Ass Clown'.....unfortunately one is around your throat from the rear and the other one is between your legs, and not in a good way........but nothing to worry about though.
Barack_Must_Go.....
Yeah, Smiley's wrong, but...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:46pm.
the distinction between Obama's labeling a claim regarding a provision in pending legislation a "lie" and Wilson's stunningly boorish behavior during the middle of a nationally televised Presidential address to Congress is so gaping that even the hint of an equivalency boggles the mind. No, it is not the most uncivil moment in the history of the House--personally I'd rank it around #8--but the GOP leadership leaned heavily on Wilson to issue an apology for good reason: They knew he had acted like a petulant, mannerless child.
Jer
No, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 6:15pm.
the statement "--he had acted like a petulant, mannerless child" is an appellation that properly belongs, perennially, unfortunately, to your Messiah, Obama. MDI've always considered the
Submitted by ant on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 6:54pm.
I've always considered the "You lie" outburst to be the equivalent of shouting "Enough!" and not so much a deliberate intent to be rude or petulant. Everyone has various levels of patience and most people will eventually just get fed up with lies, even more so when they are blatant or go unchallenged. I know I, myself, find it aggravating as hell watching news-anchor after news-anchor knowingly shovel misinformation out to the public. There's only so much BS people are willing to tolerate.
I think a lot of the recent focus on "heated rhetoric" leaves out the anger people feel when they know they are being lied to. That aspect is probably left out on purpose, otherwise the offending MSM and others would have to admit guilt.
Surely you understand that
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:13pm.
Surely you understand that the opposition party believes probably a third of the content of nearly all Presidential addresses are mostly BS. But they tolerate it during the speech itself. Because it's appropriate.
Wilson's "you lie" outburst was the equivalent of shouting "Obama, you are a liar" as he was speaking before a joint session of Congress. It was inexcusable. I doubt that it made his mama proud.
Jer
Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:19pm.
what Wilson said was the truth, and it was appropriate. Obama IS a liar. MDmd...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:36pm.
Your eloquent but entirely predictable insights are always welcome, Matthew.
Jer
No fair Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:46pm.
I thought I was pretty eloquent here.
Should I be flattered that you found no untruth in it?
As they should be, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:50pm.
Someone has to counter the slippery-slimy-oily suck-up-to-the-Messiah responses from the liberals on these threads. MDJer
Submitted by ant on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 8:01pm.
Surely you understand that the opposition party believes probably a third of the content of nearly all Presidential addresses are mostly BS.
I certainly do. However it must be noted that not all Presidents were so determined to radically transform the US into HIS vision, the rights and freedoms of the people be damned.
Jer
Submitted by well99 on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 8:07pm.
I guess I have a hard time balanceing that with a sitting Potus saying you should Punish Your Enemies.Must be me.
Please rank "Repubs want you to die quickly" on the Jerometer
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:02pm.
The one where not only did the House leadership NOT ask him to dial it down, but they picked up the slimy ball and ran with it.
That would be number 53, SoL
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:33pm.
Just behind the GOP congressman who, in a jawdropping display of demagogic excess, wailed that his granny would be sitting alone and unarmed in her isolated cabin if a pending gun control bill were passed.
When a Democrat like Grayson spouts outrageous slanders, he gets booted from office. Republicans do it and their base rejoices.
Jer
When Repubs do it?
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 8:11pm.
When a Democrat like Grayson spouts outrageous slanders, he gets booted from office. Republicans do it and their base rejoices.
What Repubs suggested such a thing a Grayson, and when were they re-elected?
Booted? Then explain Pelosi and Reid
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:53pm.
The pinnacle of jawdropping demagogic excess.
There are some things I just can't explain, SoL...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 11:37am.
String theory in particle physics, the popularity of Lady Gaga, why I authorized American Express to issue a card to my wife on my account, and how Pelosi and Reid continue to hold public office.
Jer
That's no defense at all Jer
Submitted by Chris Norman on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 1:12am.
If he got booted by voters - probably overwhelmingly Republican in this case - that doesn't explain the lack of any negative response by his Democratic colleagues - and, yes, your party's liberal base rejoiced over Grayson's remarks.
A fair point Chris...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 11:48am.
But for some reason, while a Democratic loose cannon like Grayson gets trounced, a Republican loose cannon like Michele Bachmann remains immensely popular.
However, I will agee that Grayson's "Republicans want you to die" remark was so repugnant and irresponsible, it embarrasses me that anyone would endorse it or excuse it instead of vigorously condemning it.
Jer
Hey Jer
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 1:22pm.
...it embarrasses me that anyone would endorse it or excuse it instead of vigorously condemning it.
Indeed - and I think we all feel that way. It made me think - what if someone like Sarah Palin, in regards to the Republican position on health reform - perhaps a plan to cut costs - said something like this:
We're going to have to, if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive...so we're going to let you die.
Isn't it obvious that by tomorrow morning, after a busy night by the other side - the MSM - that most everyone in America would be talking about it - and her insensitive and damning remarks?
I need to cover my butt timewise, so I'll prepare the rebuttal, in advance here: Of course, those were the words of liberal Democrat darling, former Clinton Labor Secretary and current professor at UC Berkeley, CA.
(;~> gary
Gary...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 1:36pm.
Do you have Herman's full quote? I may consider it repugnant, too. As you probably know by now, I think the term "death panel"--and the manner in which it was presented--was improper and unhelpful in fairly debating healthcare reform.
Jer
Jer ? Herman?
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 9:26pm.
Hey Jer - happy New Year
No.. it was Robert Reich.. (Herman? I'm picturing "the Munsters")
http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978463
9/26/07 Robert Reich – at UC Berkeley
Jer. I have a rather different take on the "death panel," discussion.
The conservative side of the Republican party is opposed to the concept (as if they are fully briefed).
The liberals (Democrats and MSM) support the concept of rationing care for elders, and numerous other health issues (Neo Natal intensive care is on the table, as well); death, being the end result.
The liberals (D's and the MSM) attacked Sarah Palin, et. al., on the use of the term, "death panel," claiming that there is no such discussion at hand.
That is a lie. Yes there is. They smeared the R's for bringing it up. They should ahve said, well, let's define it this way. The media - failed us miserably.
They could have said, "Well what we want is.." and we don't appreciate you calling it, a "death panel." Instead, they lie and deny that there is a want.
I say, this is America - bring it up and let's have the frigging discussion. I'm privy to a few personal views in which modern science and intervention is not only extremely expensive, but is causing untold of, and unGodly and un-natural pain and suffering beyond what was ever intended on God's green earth.
In the end, it's the national MSM doing it's thing - successfully censuring an open intellectual conversation on an issue of concern to all - and managing to insert horrific vitriol and divisiveness into the public awareness, instead of dialog.
Let the people debate it.
(;~/ gary
Jer, Michele Bachman a
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 1:18am.
Jer,
Michele Bachman a "loose cannon"? Please, please, tell me that, by that duel characterization, you are not equating the behavior of Michelle Bachmann with the behavior of Alan Grayson. You may diagree with Bachmann's political views. You may even dislike her personality or style. But there is no way a reasonable person can argue that she even approaches the general vicinity of the nastiness of Alan Grayson.
Chris...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 1:42am.
I believe Grayson's "Republicans want you to die" may appropriately be placed in a class by itself for sheer venality. He is gone. Good riddance.
But Bachmann is accumulating a body of work which definitely puts her in the loose cannon category--a view which I am confident is universally shared by Democrats and is mostly rejected by Republicans.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 01/15/2011 - 2:45am.
Well. there are "loose cannons" and there are loose biological weapons - of which I submit Grayson belonged to the latter.
But, who, pray tell, on the Republican side - aside from perhaps Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins - are not considered "loose cannons" by Democrats? And isn't the point of belonging to a certain political party not to be a secured cannon for the opposition?
Incivility?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 5:49pm.
But Smiley, having already escaped the treacherous clutches of the underpriviledged womb, has no problem with this President baldfacedly misrepresenting America's forced complicity in black genocide.
Wilson called Obama out on this misrepresentation and Obama continued to lie with "That's not true"
I don't want to fund anybody's abortion, but just like Romney's $50 buck abortions in Mass. the torch of holocaust is now carried throughout America.
And "blood libel"? At least one Swiss Company actually uses fetal collagen in its cosmetics. We aren't that far away.
But none of this rises to the level of "You Lie!", right Tavis?
Mr Smiley should attend the
Submitted by johnsonl on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 6:24pm.
Mr Smiley should attend the Italian parliment or the UK's House of Lords for one of their "discussions". Democracy is not pretty or polite.
wasserman-schultz
Submitted by jerseyjoe on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 6:37pm.
if hilliary clinton had a pit-bull it would look like wasserman- schultz!!
Interesting, I thought it was
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 6:49pm.
Interesting, I thought it was when Obama went on a Jay Leno joe and made fun of the mentally handicapped as "retards". Or, maybe it was Clinton using the peoples' Oval Office as a place to tap girls that were barely over legal age. Or wait, maybe it was when Barbara Boxer asked a decorated General during wartime to call her "Senator!" Oh wait, maybe it was when Obama called the police officers who put their ass on the line everyday to protect the good people from crime "stupid". Oh wait, maybe it was when Michelle Obama said she was only proud of the USA when her husband came into office. Or maybe it was Michelle Obama ganging up on an entire group of people with the NAACP and calling them RACISTS simply because they disagreed with her husband.......
So now 'truth'
Submitted by Iron Tigers Vet on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:08pm.
is considered "incivility"...
You lie, Tavis!
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 7:25pm.
You lie, Tavis!
Tavis Smiley = Alvin Greene
Submitted by tomato can on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 9:44pm.
only with a better vocabulary.
Schultz
Submitted by grammajane on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 9:53pm.
Is this Wasserman Schultz congresswoman related to Sargent Schultz??
Senator Preston Brooks (D) beating Senator Charles Sumner (R)
Submitted by SpaceManSpiff on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 10:11pm.
Senator Preston Brooks (D) beating Senator Charles Sumner (R) nearly to death with a cane, on the floor of the US Senate, would be my example of the greatest moment of incivility.
But then again, pro-slavery Democrat Brooks was beating an anti-slaver Republican, so in the Liberal mind, the event couldn't possibly have happened. Especially since Brooks accomplice, fellow Democrat Laurence Keitt held the other Senators at bay with a loaded pistol.
Democrats have, and always will be, thugs.
Isn't the President lying to
Submitted by Cowboy on Thu, 01/13/2011 - 11:13pm.
Isn't the President lying to the American people 'incivility' ??
Lies
Submitted by 2WarAbnVet on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:05pm.
Rep. Joe Wilson was actually quite restrained in yelling, "You lie!" only once during a speech in which Obama lied about two dozen times.
Debbie said
Submitted by GW on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 12:37pm.
"No, you know, Mommy takes precautions"
I wonder if those precautions involve armed guards.