NPR's Dirty Campaigners of the Week: 'Conservative Bloggers' Push 'Bold' Pro-lifer to Head Bishops Group
The U.S. Catholic bishops' conference disappointed liberals this week by choosing a leader who agreed with the bishops' campaign this year against pro-abortion provisions in ObamaCare. On Tuesday night's All Things Considered, NPR religion reporter Barbara Bradley Hagerty reported the expected moderate winner was apparently smeared by “conservative Catholic bloggers” for being too close to the sex-abuse scandal. (This might be the first time reporters have felt bad about bishops over the sex-abuse scandal.) Hagerty reported:
It's not clear what tipped the election. But over the past few days, conservative Catholic bloggers and activists have waged a campaign against [Tucson Bishop Gerald] Kicanas, who's considered a moderate with a conciliatory style. His critics sent faxes and left voicemails telling bishops to vote against Kicanas, saying Kicanas had been tainted by the sex abuse scandal when he had recommended an abuser to be ordained as a priest.
Kicanas flatly denied knowing about any abuse of minors. But that did not save him. The bishops elected the media-savvy Timothy Dolan, who's considered one of the boldest and more orthodox bishops, and who's willing to speak loudly and publicly on issues like abortion, same-sex marriage and stem cell research.
Asked what his priorities would be, Dolan said he would continue what is already in place. The outgoing president, Cardinal Francis George, has been an outspoken conservative on culture war issues.
Isn't it fascinating how liberal reporters lament “outspoken” conservatives “willing to speak loudly and publicly,” especially on their pet social-liberal issues? "Waging" a campaign inside a church is somehow questionable -- unless it's installing a gay-activist bishop in the Episcopal Church. NPR didn't actually mention any bloggers by name. Matt Abbott at Renew America was one, and he was pointing out that gay leftists like the Rainbow Sash movement were promoting Bishop Kicanas, which somehow didn't make the NPR story.
While the election was a surprise – the vice chairman has been routinely elevated to chairman – it was a vote to continue in the current direction. So Morning Edition anchor Steve Inskeep just made a bone-headed mistake when he introduced Hagerty the next morning:
When the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops chose a new leader, they also chose a new direction. The bishops held an election yesterday. The winner was Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York. He's considered more conservative than the candidate he surprisingly defeated.
Inskeep asked "Why Dolan?" So came more loud-conservative talk. Notice the "really-really" modifiers from NPR:
HAGERTY: Well, for one thing, he's considered more overtly conservative than his rival,Gerald Kicanas of Tucson. He's been really outspoken on issues like same- sex marriage, on abortion, on stem cell research. And so while the more low-key Kicanas would have emphasized things like poverty and immigration reform, we can actually expect Dolan to focus on the hot-button social issues. So that's one reason.
Also, his style. His style is completely different from Kicanas'. He's really media-savvy. He's outspoken. He's affable. He's funny. He's a really large man - kind of both in personality and in girth. And he jokes about that. And so he brings what one expert, professor Robert George of Princeton, calls a confident Catholicism. That's this notion that the Catholic Church has a moral message to bring to the world, and it should be really, really bold about asserting it.
INSKEEP: Interesting you mention that he'd more overtly conservative. I guess there wasn't really a question here of the church becoming more liberal. It's a conservative institution.
That assumption is incorrect. NPR and other media outlets have offered very eager support for liberal "reformers" in Catholic and Protestant circles, pushing feminism and abortion and homosexuality inside the church. In his only previous mention on NPR (in Nexis, at least), Dolan was pushing back against women seeking to be ordained priests, which NPR celebrated. So Inskeep's being disingenous, or just slow on the uptake.
HAGERTY: It's a conservative institution. But what you have to think about is, some people emphasize one wing - for example, poverty or social justice issues - and other people emphasize things like culture war issues, you know, abortion and same-sex marriage. And that's what Dolan will emphasize.
INSKEEP: OK. So what does that say about the direction, then, of the American Catholic Church?
HAGERTY: Well, one thing it says is that the church wants to be leaders in the culture wars. After the sex abuse scandal in 2002, the bishops kind of went into this defensive crouch, where they kept a pretty low profile. But that began to change a few years ago, when they elected the outgoing president, Cardinal Francis George of Chicago.
George was really, really assertive. You probably remember his role in the health-care debate. Under his leadership, the bishops pressured the House to change the language of the health-care bill because they were worried about federal money being used for abortions. And they basically, Steve, forced the House to rewrite the law. And what Archbishop Dolan said yesterday is, he's going to continue in that style. So what I think you're going to see is bishops flexing their muscles in public policy.
That obviously wouldn't bother liberals if the cause was liberal. They championed the USCCB in the 1980s when they campaigned against Reaganomics and for nuclear arms control. Then Hagerty turned again to the blogger campaign, and Inskeep suggested it was dirty "attack ad" politics that elected Dolan:
Kicanas' problems actually began last week, when some bloggers began writing that he was tainted by the sex abuse scandal. They say that Kicanas ordained a priest who later went on to abuse boys. And they said that Kicanas knew about the man's proclivities. He says he didn't. But over the past few days, conservative activists began sending faxes and leaving voice mails for bishops, urging them to vote against Kicanas.
INSKEEP: This sounds like the equivalent of a last-minute political attack ad.
HAGERTY: That's right. Really, I don't think that the sex abuse scandal was what hurt Kicanas. I think, really, what the issue was - was that they didn't like his style and ideology. They considered him a moderate and not a culture warrior. And it seems that the bishops wanted someone more aggressive on hot- button issues like same-sex marriage and abortion.
Hagerty underlined two routine tendencies of national-media reporting on religion. Liberal "reform" movements aren't cast as "culture warriors," only conservatives are. Liberals aren't labeled as liberals, but conservatives are routinely described as conservatives. Between these who NPR stories, it added up to eight C-words, not to mention their taking acception to Catholic bishops being "really, really assertive." NPR is really, really assertive -- but from the liberal side.
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Awwwww....
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 9:22am.
Their favored candidate didn't get picked ?????
And it seems that the bishops wanted someone more aggressive on hot- button issues like same-sex marriage and abortion.It really rankles liberals that the RCC doesn't "adapt" itself to accommodate them and their changing cultural climate. I wonder if THIS has anything to do with their dislike of Archbishop Dolan???? Scroll down to "More From the Times" and then read "Last Word" above it. (HT Anchoress)
26CX's Free Translation Services
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 9:23am.
When liberals describe someone by saying:
"...who's considered a moderate with a conciliatory style..."
What they're really saying is:
"...who thinks the same way we do..."
I have to disagree, 26....
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 9:25am.
I don't think "conciliatory style" means he necessarily thinks the way they do, just that he's willing to bend Catholic teaching a little to accommodate them.
A subtle difference, I know... ;-)
Yours is a valid observation,
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 9:33am.
Yours is a valid observation, MB, but I must point out that translation is a somewhat inexact and tricky endeavor in which the meanings of some words and phrases don't convey exactly the same meanings when converted from one language to another.
At any rate, can we agree that it's two paths to the same end as far as liberals are concerned?
I can get on board with
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:24am.
I can get on board with that!! LOL
Here is a perfect example, from the LGBT Rainbow Sash organization's "endorsement" of Bishop Kicanas:
“Bishop Kicanas understands that bishops are privately changing their position [on homosexual practice and abortion] because input is bubbling up from the pews of our parishes in support of gay marriage and pro-choice…[While we have difficulties with Bishop Kicanas’ present position on gay marriage, we are hopeful his position will evolve. (emphasis mine)
26CX's Free Translation Services (part deux)
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:15am.
When liberals say
"...we are hopeful his position will evolve"
What they mean is:
"...we are hopeful he will start seeing things our way."
I heartily agree!
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:41am.
And they obviously think he's wishy-washy enough that they will be able to convince him.
With liberals, "evolving," which means developing into a higher state of being, always means moving in their direction.
They never talk about how someone "evolves" into a conservative. LOL
Yep, You got that right!
Submitted by Ole_Sarge on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:00am.
The Bloggers encouraged their readers to pray during the time leading up to the elections, and some of that carried over to the Bishops' Conference.
Yep, it was all prayer, worked in some areas, others, well the corruption is so bad, you need a real cleaning of the "offices" before you clean the buildings.
There are "cultural" Catholics, like Madame Speaker Pelosi, who no doubt were very vocal that "their choice" was not elected. And many more like me that are if not happy, then very pleased.
Now to do something about the "puppets" and dancers during the Mass.
Why is anyone a Bishop and
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:04am.
Why is anyone a Bishop and have moderate views concerning the Biblical issues like homosexuality? Anyone in the SBC who expouses such views are thrown assunder. This is why the Catholic Church in the USA will fall prey to the liberal agendas like "gay" issues.
Kicanas does not have such a moderate view
Submitted by Rhymes With Right on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:12am.
And came out against gay marriage when it was on the ballot in Arizona.
The Anchoress has a pretty
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:06am.
The Anchoress has a pretty good rundown of the situation....lots of links....
She allows that a certain amount of liberal and conservative friction may have played a role, but has this:
Grant Gallicho wonders if Kicanas had been harmed by continuing controversy regarding his handling of this abuse case, and whether a “conservative” movement against Kicanas contributed to his loss.
It’s possible. Heaven knows, competing factions claim primary concerns over victims as it suitstheir interests.
It’s also possible that the bishops simply did not want to have to deal with every study, finding, pronouncement or teaching released by the USCCB being overshadowed by some variation of : “USCCB president, Kicanas–who has been criticized for his handling–while rector of Mundelein seminary–of complaints about a seminarian who later was ordained and is now laicized and in prison…”
Kicanas and Dolan are both good bishops; let us hope these elections will not be characterized along ideological lines. If that happens, then both men will find themselves tarnished by unfair assumptions which will casually be made about them by non-thinking reactionaries, and that would be too bad.
Why do the female
Submitted by mcherr on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:21am.
"reporters" on NPR have three names? Case in point: Barbara Bradley Hagerty. Is it PC or can'tmakeupmymind-ism?
Well, mcherr,
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:32am.
reporters on NPR have three names because they're playing a game called "Grasping for Gravitas" and believe that going by three names makes them sound more important.
But it didn't work for "Bozo The Clown" and it's not working for them, either.
26CX, three names are required---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:15pm.
for NPR reporters, because, like assassins:
John Wilkes Booth
Lee Harvey Oswald
fools:
George Armstrong Custer
Bozo The Clown
(h/t 26CX)
or putzes:
John F'ing Kerry
Barack Hussein Obama
--- it is fitting.
MD
I'm going to correct some things here
Submitted by Rhymes With Right on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:30am.
Since I actually know Bishop Kicanas, and was a student at the seminary he ran at the same time as the priest in question.
As you can see, I believe Bishop Kicanas was doen wrong by those who attacked him. At worst, I believe him to be guilty of no greater sin than relying on the reports of psychologists and being unable to predict that in the future a guy who had a few sexual encounters with men while intoxicated would later turn his attention to young boys while sober.
Correcting some things here???
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:39am.
What have you found in Mr. Graham's blog that is incorrect?
It sounds like your experience was in line with what was presented here.
Maybe I should have been clearer.
Submitted by Rhymes With Right on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:08am.
I'm not correcting Graham. I think he does a fair job (as usual).
I am, on the other hand, correcting those who attack Bishop Kicanas.
More double standard
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:39am.
Wonder if NPR would ever, EVER, ask muslims to accept gays, same sex marriage, abortion, and feminism. Do ya think? Sometime this century? Nope, never, they will just go on accepting muslims oppressing EVERYONE, while calling any critics of islam 'islamophobes'.
What he did exhibit was a
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:41am.
What he did exhibit was a tendency to drink to much and a homosexual orientation that he may have acted on inappropriately a few times while intoxicatedAnd Biblically that should have precluded him from leadership. When we follow what is in the Bible we cant go wrong.
In the Bible, Jesus appointed
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:00am.
In the Bible, Jesus appointed Peter the head of His Church.
After Peter had denied him three times.
Jesus is God an he was in
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:37am.
Jesus is God an he was in direct communication with God. He knew Peter would be good and He knew Paul was needed, but the Preist is a homosexual and as such according to the Bible is unfit for leadership. until the Catholic Church porifies its leadership ranks it will be prone to falling.
Yes we are all sinners but our leaders are held to higher standards. Paul set out the standards and we must follow them or fall. The standard for a pastor is a man above reproach.
Its your church and you can live with what happens, I just know the Episcopals and Lutherans who were very Biblical have gone down the wide path. ""Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."
You are assuming that the
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:50am.
You are assuming that the priest is a homosexual.
On what basis?
Also, where is your evidence that the ranks of the Catholic Church are falling?
You continue to predict the demise of the Catholic Church, but Jesus said:
"You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it"
The Church Jesus was talking
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:00pm.
The Church Jesus was talking about was not the Catholic Church but the Church as in the worldwide body of believers. In that sense He built His church. I know you disagree with me but that is what it means.
And the little ditty RWR put out :"The priest in question, Dan McCormack, never exhibited any "proclivities" for molesting kids. What he did exhibit was a tendency to drink to much and a homosexual orientation that he may have acted on inappropriately a few times while intoxicated". The Bible lays out the requirements for leadership and being intoxicated and homosexual activity precludes leadership.
How condescending.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:21pm.
I know you disagree with me but that is what it means.Condescending, perhaps its
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:35pm.
Condescending, perhaps its the truth I believe and I know you don't. I am not going to say yours is right and you are not going to say mine is. Are you condescending for saying you are right?
My offering the Bible quote
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:49pm.
My offering the Bible quote was to show what I believe. You condescendingly informed me that I was wrong in my interpretation, and then proceed to inform me of it's "real" meaning.
I've had Southern Baptists say to me, when they found out I was a Catholic, "Oh, bless your heart" in the same tone that one says "Oh, you poor thing!" So I know what I'm talking about when I say "condescending."
I'm not going to get in any more of a discussion with you about interpretation of scripture, because I've learned from past experience that it's an endless and fruitless process. No minds are ever changed.
So tell you what: I won't put down your church and you return the favor, OK?
I did not put down your
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 1:19pm.
I did not put down your church, I had an opinion about its problems. Extrapolated from what happened the Episcopals and Lutherans when they fell prey to PC ideas. I believe unless your church purges the leadership then it will be in jepardy.
And come down off your high horse as you were pushing your "real meaning" of the passage by merely mentioning it. It is your truth.
I want people to point out faults in my church. Only by sharpening steel with steel do we become stronger. I am a big guy, I can take criticism, and so can God.
You're the one with the high horse, Dan
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 2:46pm.
Which part of My offering the Bible quote was to show what I believe.
didn't you understand? I never pretended that it was anything other than what I believe to be true. Why would I offer a Bible quote if I didn't believe it?
Don't go back to the Church's problems. That's not where my dispute with you is. It's about your attitude that yours is the "correct" reading of that quote, and implication that those who see it otherwise are sadly misinformed.
There's a difference between saying "I believe differently" and saying you're welcome to believe that, but it's wrong.MB, do you believe your truth
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 8:33pm.
MB, do you believe your truth of the scripture is the only correct one? I believe you just said to me "Bless your heart". I am true to what I believe are you? Is there only one truth to that scripture? Be true to yourself and the motive you had for putting it out there.
You put that scripture out there to prove the Catholic Church is the only church God recognizes and all others are heritics. I guess I am more truthful and forthright with my beliefs than you are. And you believe I am a heritic and will burn in hell or languish in purgatory.
I guess we will disagree, but only one of us is right.
The problem is this
Submitted by Rhymes With Right on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 4:16pm.
Given that all are sinners, none are beyond reproach. Seems to me that there is a mighty big leadership crisis that results from your standard.
Not my requirements dude. 1
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 9:09pm.
Not my requirements dude.
1 Timothy 3:2-7 (New American Standard Bible)2(A)An overseer, then, must be above reproach, (B)the husband of one wife, (C)temperate, prudent, respectable, (D)hospitable, (E)able to teach,
3(F)not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, (G)free from the love of money.
4He must be one who (H)manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity
5(but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of (I)the church of God?),
6and not a new convert, so that he will not become (J)conceited and fall into the (K)condemnation incurred by the devil.
7And he must (L)have a good reputation with (M)those outside the church, so that he will not fall into reproach and (N)the snare of the devil.
Sin makes one unfit for leadership in the Church?
Submitted by Rhymes With Right on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:11am.
If that is the case, then you need to call for mass resignations of all imperfect, sinful bishops, priests, ministers, etc.
God uses imperfedct people because that is the only kind available. The Bible tells us about a drunken Noah, and a number of individuals with sexual shortcomings. God used them for his purposes.
Careful, Dan the Man, there
Submitted by amram on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:54am.
Careful, Dan the Man, there is more sexual mis-conduct among the SBC clergy than there is among the Catholic clergy, including homosexual activity.
Scholastica
Shine the light on it brother
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:01pm.
Shine the light on it brother so we may be Biblical and correct this. I dont want to be careful, I want to be righteous in the eyes of God.