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Juan Williams: Fox Bosses are 'Much More Enlightened' Than NPR or CNN, Fox Viewers Aren't Dumb

By Tim Graham | October 27, 2010 | 15:04

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Fired NPR news analyst Juan Williams is firing back at critics of Fox News Channel. In an interview with the Baltimore Sun, Williams said Fox management is "much more enlightened" than executives at other news outlets, from NPR to CNN:

"At NPR they don't know this: A third of the audience for Bill O'Reilly's show is made up of people of color," Williams said. "At NPR, they think, `Oh, these people who watch Fox don't appreciate diversity of opinion, they're not smart people. They're not informed people. Oh, yeah? I'll tell you what: They're informed."

...Williams said NPR "just doesn't understand the Fox audience" -- or have any idea how much more enlightened Fox News management is in some ways compared with news outlets like NPR, CNBC or CNN.

"Just consider the idea that Fox allows me the opportunity to sit in for Bill O'Reilly on their No. 1 show," he said. "That's the franchise. That's the moneymaker. If that show falls in the toilet, it's bad for the whole lineup. And yet Fox allows a black guy with a Hispanic name to sit in the big chair and host the show."

And, he added, "If you ask NPR they'd say, 'Oh that could never happen at Fox.' But it is happening at Fox. And let me me ask you something? Do you see it an CNBC? Do you it at CNN in prime time. Am I lying to you?"

(Roland Martin would quickly point out that he guest-hosted for about eight weeks at 8 pm last spring while CNN's Campbell Brown was on maternity leave.)

Williams was also interviewed on the NPR-distributed Diane Rehm show on Tuesday, and explained that he was a commentator at Fox News first, before he was hired by NPR. But in his later years in public radio, management began to punish him for the Fox association:

And so to give them some protection, some, you know, space from my opinions, it was decided, okay. We want you here, but sign a contract so we can say to people when you express your opinion, it's not necessarily the opinion of NPR. It's Juan Williams' opinion and he appears in different -- but we hire him as an analyst. So I said, okay. But the minute I did that, they began to cut my salary, diminish my role. I understood that, you know, it seemed to me it was a political tactic intended to hurt me for working at Fox.

Williams also took issue with the idea that he was bigoted against Muslims in a way he wouldn't tolerate against blacks:

I think the NPR Ombudsman [Alicia Shepard] wrote this, what would I have said if someone had described a tall, big, black guy with an afro and a dashiki standing by the airplane door. Would I have said the same thing? And of course, I have two levels of thought about this.

First and foremost, there is no history or record of black people getting in airplanes and taking them into buildings and committing that act of terrorism, so I don't know exactly what she's talking about, but the second thing to say is that if she's suggesting that people have fears, let's say if you're walking down the street and suddenly you turn and you notice that there's a group of young black men dressed thuggishly, I would say, yes. Not only does she might she have some anxiety, I would have some anxiety and famously, Jesse Jackson had some anxiety when he said that that's his feeling when he's on the streets in Chicago. And he said he regretted having to admit that, but that's the truth.

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The William's Factor

Submitted by Apache on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:37pm.

Even before all this NPR stuff, I said Juan was a great host of BOR's show. It's in the archives somewhere. He doesn't force the show into his ideology and seems to really be balanced. I thought it would be an hour of his Fox News Sunday ramblings but was surprised. 

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Is the filter that thick?

Submitted by ThisnThat on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:37pm.

Juan, you should have said this years ago. You and your liberal buddies. What you are really saying is -- the intimidation, lies, and outright threats of the left knows no bounds. When a person thinks they are beholden to someone (like blacks are to the dims), threats can be powerful things. Looks like you escaped your prison. Now it's time to get everyone else out of that same imprisonment before it's too late for this country.

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Sleeping with the Enemy

Submitted by libBuster on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:46pm.

I am not sure Juan has too many dogmatic liberal buddies. Working at Foxnews is unforgivable to the moveon.org types.

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Sounds like

Submitted by ClarkFL on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:40pm.

Juan is seeing the left for who they really are. I wonder if we can do a trade: Juan Williams for Joe Scarborough. The left can keep the RINO and we will take the well-respected, credible, long-time journalist Juan Williams. 

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Truth to Power

Submitted by cestes on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:43pm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVsr-_-v2sI

 

Wow, Juan, that's spoken like a true conservative.  I think getting fired is the best thing that happened to you and perception of free speech from the left and right.  Keep it up!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVsr-_-v2sI
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They say getting mugged

Submitted by Apache on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 4:18pm.

They say getting mugged will turn a liberal into a conservative but I guess getting fired like this could do the same.

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The Proposal for NPR

Submitted by Gary Hall on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:47pm.

.. and let's not be too tough on them.  In order for them to continue to receive federal tax dollars, a simple condition must be met. This will fall under the title of Affirmative Action for the Media, or AAM:

NPR must immediatly hire, at all levels - equally distributed - of staff and management, commited conservatives such that a minimum of 30% of it's payroll include those who consistently vote for Republicans.

Also, for fun, opposite Terry Gross's "Fresh Air" show, a conservatively hosted and focused one-hour show be sanctioned. A suggested name for the show might be  something like, "Real Air."

(;~> gary

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Juan's speaking truth to power!

Submitted by rolling_o on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:49pm.

Man, I hate that "speaking truth to power phrase" (it's just so damn "lefty",) but I just had to use it because it's NPR.

Juan is now a man unleashed!

Tell it from the mountain tops, brother!

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I'm sure NPR would have had

Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:49pm.

I'm sure NPR would have had the same reaction if Williams said he had a fear of men in KKK robes. After all, one of NPR's favorite Senators, Robert Byrd, D, W VA, used to wear them, and why would anyone act so irrational?

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Awesome

Submitted by 76United on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:51pm.

This is a great thing for Fox. I've always liked Williams. He reminds me of one of my liberal uncles. I disagree with him, but he's smart and classy. It would be great if Fox gave Williams his own show. Can't find room on the schedule? Get rid of the God awful Huckabee Show. Who writes or produces that show? Ned Flanders?

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Huck had Meat Loaf as a guest on his show

Submitted by rolling_o on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 4:17pm.

And one of the backup singers was Patti Russo, who sang the female part in the 1995 single, "I'd Lie for You (And That's the Truth)". That buys Huck another year as far as I'm concerned.
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LOL, 76United

Submitted by JJoujan on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 4:20pm.

I agree with you on this one.  Ned Flanders, for sure.

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A liberal

Submitted by 76United on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 3:53pm.

They say a liberal is someone who's never been mugged. Well Juan, you've been mugged!

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You beat me to it. I just

Submitted by Apache on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 4:20pm.

You beat me to it. I just posted similar up above.

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I know

Submitted by ripper58 on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 4:20pm.

let him take over for Shemp Smith

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Wouldn't it be nice

Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 5:00pm.

He can have the earlier Shemp show, I am holding out hope that the 07:00 hour goes to Dobbs.

Dobbs becomes a smash as does Juan Williams and NPR and CNN cry a puddle of pussy liberal tears (see Beck CNN circa 2006 or so)...............

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Love the article, love Juan

Submitted by generalbroccoli on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 5:38pm.

But I would point out that the comparison of Juan sitting in the big boy chair and Roland sitting in Campbell's chair is not exactly apples to apples...wasn't her program consistently lowest in ratings?

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I'm willing to bet that the imperious NPR never imagined Juan

Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 5:48pm.

would take this to the road like he has. He's all over the place.

And he's quickly turning into their worst nightmare. Ever.

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Once Williams is done cozying

Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 5:56pm.

Once Williams is done cozying up with FoxNews, will you all go back to hating the liberal?

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Believe it or not, ADK

Submitted by ThisnThat on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 6:45pm.

none of us need to check in with our masters before we form an opinion or express a thought. Something that dims will never understand. You will flounder on NB forever until you figure out the fact that none of us adhere to a talking points template.

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lol

Submitted by amyshulk on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 4:41am.

Hate? No. Disagree? Yes.

Yet - still able to respect.

Juan is great as host for OR, good as a guest on OR.

On Sunday, he attempts to counter the right with his left and shows where liberal logic *can* break down.

Listen closely - he's mostly attempting to *explain* liberal logic.

I watch Morning Joe {the only MSNBC show I can stand} and the liberals they have on {not to mention Mika} make Juan sound like a moderate!!!

 

 

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I don't know - was that a yes

Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 6:48pm.

I don't know - was that a yes or a no?

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I'd pit my stats ...

Submitted by EricTheRed on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 9:04pm.

This FNC watcher would pit his stats - transcript, IQ test, anything - against the average NPR listener any day. Like the rest of the elite, they only think they're smarter than everyone else.

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Yep,

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:15pm.

In-fact I spent the whole day with a devoted listener the other day. She could not name both of her own Senators, I could name her's and mine. Didnt know Pelousy was speaker of the house, or Reid is majority leader of the senate. And blamed the repubs for not letting "Obama run things his way" as she stated it. Not to mention, she was is a jerk, and I am glad she went back to OR.

 

This was a reply to Eric the Red? jeez : (

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"journalistic ethics" is a red herring.

Submitted by verbatim on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 12:01pm.

He is (was) supposed to be a commentator, not a transcriber or PR flack. He was brought on (supposedly) to COMMENT on news and issues. He worked at Fox before he ever worked at NPR. So they knew that he was an old-school moderate liberal.

They just didn't like his views.

While it's true that he had no right to a job (except for that pesky signed contract), couching his firing in "breaching of journalistic ethics" is a red herring. They didn't like him because his moderate views and his appearance on Fox.

If they were concerned with "journalistic ethics" they would have fired Nina Totenberg when she wished that Jesse Helms and his grandchildren would die from AIDS.
 

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