Cronkite Said He Was a Liberal, But Liberals Aren't 'Committed to a Point of View'

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In one of the early books on liberal TV news bias, The News Twisters (1971), author Edith Efron recounted that in the November 4, 1970 edition of Variety, although Walter Cronkite "conceded he was a 'true liberal,' he defined the position as having no content at all: a liberal, said Mr. Cronkite, was one who is 'not bound by doctrines or committed to a point of view in advance.'"

Efron also recalled the November 25, 1969 broadcast of 60 Minutes, in which Cronkite defended CBS against charges of liberal bias from Vice President Spiro Agnew:

Well, we all have our prejudices, we all have our biases, we have a structural problem in writing a news story or presenting it on television as to time and length, position in the paper, position on the news broadcast. These things are all going to be affected by our own beliefs, of course they are. But we are professional journalists. This is the difference. We are trying to reach an objective state, we are trying to be objective.  We have been taught from the day we went to school, when we began to know we wanted to be journalists, integrity, truth, honesty, and a definite attempt to be objective. We try to present the news as objectively as possible, whether we like it or don't like it. Now that is objective.

Efron summed up that Cronkite merely ended up saying "Objectivity is when one tries to be objective." That's a little like saying that victory in war is when one tries to win.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Well

I will call BS on WC.He was lying.He wasnt objective.He let his bias influence his reporting. 

Objectivity

The word "objectivity" never seems to come up any longer. What CNN, ABC, NBC and CBS do has little to do with "objective" journalism.  That concept (possibly thanks to journalism schools) has been replaced by advocacy journalism.

allanf

"That concept (possibly thanks to journalism schools) has been replaced by advocacy journalism."

There it is. It is their way of rationalizing their bias and pushing their political agenda.

Dan Rather and Katie Couric

Dan Rather and Katie Couric are the true disciples of Walter Cronkite. Just a more evolved form of liberal viewpoint and bias. All 3 were and are incapable of discerning their own level of bias. Rather even going so far as to fabricate "evidence" and then state if it wasn't true, then it SHOULD have been. Chronkite performed sychophantic Viet Cong propaganda during the Tet Offensive, branding him as a traitor to those recognizing the circumstances. I do not grieve his death.

Charles Beirbower (sp?) is

Charles Beirbower (sp?) is my idea of a journalist.  Years ago Phil Donahue had him on his show and complained that Beirbower wouldn't say which presidential candidate he favored.  Beirbower said he had to leave his views at home, and that even discussing politics socially could have an impact on his reporting of the facts.

They don't make 'em like that anymore.

Tim... Thank you. Your

Tim...

Thank you.

Your blog post really says it all.

So do the words below...

although Walter Cronkite "conceded he was a 'true liberal,' he defined
the position as having no content at all: a liberal, said Mr.
Cronkite, was one who is 'not bound by doctrines or committed to a
point of view in advance
.'

Also during the rest of the interview I just love it when the left use 'I' and 'We' as if they are speaking for all.

Never-ending spin with an agenda these people have and have had for many, many decades.

Propaganda with adoration...isn't it beautiful.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Gee, even back in 1970

Gee, even back in 1970 liberals wouldn't admit they were liberals.  They were the "default" position, the open-minded, as opposed to those closed-minded right=wingers (I don't recall if they were called "right-wingers back then).

And I  love this comment, from Tim's blog yesterday, quoted from Time magazine:

Despite his comments on the war — or because of them — Cronkite cemented a reputation as a straight shooter.

By calling a quagmire what it was, he showed that a false even-handedness that flies in the face of reality is not the same as honesty.

Today, those "open-minded" liberals have the same attitude regarding so-called "climate change." 

Some things never change......

 

 

Objective Eulogy

I know Cronkite was the first person to be called 'Anchorman', but wasn't he also the first to be called 'Moonbat'? I don't recall.

Walter Cronkite lived a long life and is now at rest.

Rest In Peace

 

Sorry he's gone, but...

I sympathize with any death since we are all God's children and all need God's mercy.  But this man was the father of what our media has become today - a shadow political class which is as corrupt as the day is long.

And what they are now is truly a sad thing to behold.  Maher, Olberman, Matthews and all their cohorts are nothing but a pack of snarling dogs who have followed the example of Cronkite and sold their objectivity for a mess of pottage from a poltical faction that seeks to become tyrants.

Cronkite could have done a lot in his last days to rail against the monster he helped to create.  He could have made any number of public statements denouncing the frauds, charlatans, crooks, deviants and perverts who have overrun what was once the 'news' industry.  But he didn't.  His silence in the face of our media's corruption was deafening.

He was once a decent news personality.  But in the end, he became simply a good man who let evil triumph by standing aside and doing nothing.

Cronkite could have done a

Cronkite could have done a lot in his last days to rail against the
monster he helped to create.  He could have made any number of public
statements denouncing the frauds, charlatans, crooks, deviants and
perverts who have overrun what was once the 'news' industry.  But he
didn't.  His silence in the face of our media's corruption was
deafening.

Hear! Hear!

...and he didn't because he was in the same bed as they are...he just couldn't be as blatant about it back then, he was no different in my opinion.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Walter Cronkite is going to have to face

Some harsh judgement from the tens of thousands of american soldiers and their families that suffered tragically as a result of his misjudgements and mistatements about Vietnam. Six of them were my friends and the rest were my brothers in arms.

 

 

IT.... There are some

IT....

There are some things those of us old enough to remember will not forget....and that is the main one for me.

It will not be forgotten.

Ever.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I don't think its like that

Efron summed up that Cronkite merely ended up saying "Objectivity is
when one tries to be objective." That's a little like saying that
victory in war is when one tries to win.

I don't think so. I think its more like saying morality is the process of trying to do what is right. You won't get it, but morality is the fact you are honestly trying to get it.
You've set an impossible standard in your premise. You can not name ONE, not a single objective writer in this world. Not you, not Brent,not Noel, not Rush, not Ann, not Sean, not Michael Moore, not David Frum, not Al Franken, not anyone. You can not name me ONE objective writer using your standard.

Fact is, all a human can do is try to be objective, they can't be objective. No more than they can be righteous.

Name an objective writer.Name a righteous one :)

Why not Jeb Bush?

You are totally right! 

You are totally right!  There is no such thing as an objective reporter.  There never will be unless we have robots doing the news. 

Though I wish there were more reporters who appeared objective.  Somebody that you could watch on the news and you would never be able to guess what their political leanings are.  Somebody who had enough self-esteem to present both sides of an issue without feeling threatened.

That is what I was taught about journalism.  And you just don't see that anymore.  

 

Wrong. Morality is not a

Wrong.

Morality is not a process.  We strive to be moral...sometimes we fail.   Striving for morality and failing makes you...immoral.  Sorry, that's how it goes. Just like trying not to cheat on your wife and slipping  makes you an adulterer.  Failing makes one a failure. A  failure who tried, but a failure nonetheless.

 

 

 

Well here's a newsflash

We all fall short, so every human being that has ever walked this earth is immoral by your definition.

But man, what about that Tom Watson! He's going to pull this off!

Why not Jeb Bush?

yes, shawn, we are all

yes, shawn, we are all immoral, on occasion. 

Good for Tom Watson.  Did he win?

 

 

Nope :(

Nope. He blew the last hole and fell apart in the playoff :(

It was a wonderful ride though. There's hope for us old people :)

Why not Jeb Bush?

Here's the problem

 Who should people imitate as an example of unbiased reporting?

Who?

Why not Jeb Bush?

Who should people imitate? Hmmm.........

Keith Olbermann, of course.

Seriously, I'd say Brit Hume is the reporter most worthy of emulation.

And that's an objective view, by the way.:^|

For me it will always be

For me it will always be Roger Mudd.

He was passed by for that very reason...I'm still steamed to this day over it.

As an aside, before I posted, for those younger who may not know who Mudd is I just quickly googled to see if I could find a link that may sum up what I am talking about regarding Mudd and here is a really good one, albeit HuffnPuff....what is written here is the truth, I followed him too.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Good job Tim.

Yes, good job.  I liked this article.

I grew up hearing the "old man" of the news industry.  The one that all of America listened to and trusted.

But, it was his comments in his latter years that showed what he really was.  That was the Cronkite I did not like.

Cronkite's famous moment

Cronkite's famous moment where he declared the war in Vietnam unwinnable is the prototypical example of big media bias and arrogance:

In that era, he could have trotted out all kinds of experts to say exactly what he wanted the audience to hear.  That is the classic example of media bias, one Ted Koppel practiced well. 

But, Cronkite chose the more post-modern route:  He looked straight into the camera and voiced his "analysis".  

Why?  Because he was so important he had to be the one to tell Americans what is what.  HIS opinion was what counted.  He was the one Americans needed to hear from to know what to think.

And that is journalism today in a nutshell...

They give "analysis."  At best, they might have an MA from Columbia School of Journalism, but that gives them the ability to speak out on everything.  Like Cronkite, they are experts on military and foreign arrairs.  They are experts on the economy.  The are even experts on science when that is the hot topic of the day.  --- You name it, they can offer "analysis" of it - analysis the ignorant masses should pay attention to.

Now, of course, pretty much anybody who has a blog also speaks out like an expert on any issue under the sun.  Valuing your own opinion is only natural...

...but bloggers are not high and mighty, elitest journalists with a world-wide platform that reaches millions of people.

And bloggers don't go around pretending they have a magical shield of objectivity to protect them from criticism.

Debbie does Cronkite in -- and makes a good job of it

Debbie Schlussel isn't afraid to speak truth to the real power...

Buh-Bye, Walter Cronkite: He Lost the Vietnam War for U.S. on TV, Had American Blood on His Hands

By Debbie Schlussel

I just heard the news that former CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite died. And perhaps I will be one of the few with the guts to be real and say it: I'm not sad to see this overrated liar go. Buh-bye.

Cronkite enjoyed a long and glamorous life, unlike many of our late teen and 20-something American troops against whom he editorialized on a nightly basis. They died on the killing fields of Vietnam in no small part because he contributed to the video demoralization of America and the resulting lack of commitment to help our boys win the Vietnam War.

I'm sure that Cronkite will be remembered gushingly by all of the liberal mainstream media robots whom he spawned and who idolize him (and probably many gutless idiots on the right, too). In so many ways, he is their Michael Jackson, minus the creativity and talent. In life, they already exalted Cronkite far, far beyond what he deserved and completely ignored his awful transgressions against our country

But the man they called "The Most Trusted Man in America" was really something far different: The Most Destructive Man in America. And that is how he should be remembered. He had the blood of thousands of American men--some of them really just boys--on his hands.

We may have lost the Viet Nam War on the ground because of half-hearted bureaucrats and politicians, not least among them Defense Secretary Robert McNamara who also recently passed away. But, well before that, we lost the war in a far more important theater--domestic America--because Vietnam's top media general on TV, Walter Cronkite, led many offensives against our troops, every single evening.

Cronkite fought against America while in Vietnam, where he covered the Tet Offensive and lied about it to American wives, parents, and siblings of our boys on the battlefield. While the 1968 Tet Offensive was actually a victory--a tactical defeat for the Communist Viet Cong--you'd hardly know it, since Cronkite covered it as an incredible loss and gave fuel for the anti-war movement's fire and its allies in the Congress and in Hollywood (Hanoi Jane, anyone?).

And it is in Cronkite's coverage of Tet that America lost the Vietnam War. Most military historians regard it as the decisive battle in the war because it shifted American public opinion against the war. And Cronkite is the head atop that rotten fish.

A month later, instead of just "covering the news" in this constant lying manner, Cronkite began editorializing and delivered a scathing commentary against America's war efforts.

Cronkite's slogan was, "And that's the way it is." But if it came out of his mouth, you could be sure of one thing: that's the way it wasn't.

The left idolizes this man because they credit him with helping end the Vietnam War. But let's be honest. He didn't help end it. He helped lose it. We eventually lost it on the field because we lost it on television, first. Vietnam was the first American war shown nightly on television news. And Cronkite was the Just Lose It crowd's Commander in Chief in that theater.

Our half-hearted efforts in Vietnam, in large part because of Walter Cronkite's on-air attacks, have had long-lasting effects, decades later. Even Osama Bin Laden has cited them in his lack of fear in attacking America. He studied our military history, with Vietnam as its cornerstone of cutting and running. That is Walter Cronkite's legacy. So are the generations of liars who modeled themselves after him and have spent decades on TV news tearing and dumbing down America from within.

I can't be nice and say that Walter Cronkite should "rest in peace."

To do so would be to ignore the posthumous wails of the restless ghosts of over 58,000 dead Americans who lost their lives so that Walter Cronkite could be a star and Vietnam could solidify its communist tilt. That's not to mention our 153,000-plus wounded.

It is the souls of these proud Americans that I pray rest in peace, not that of the man who helped perpetrate their loss. He is soulless.

Only they--Walter Cronkite's tens of thousands of victims--can forgive this evil man for his transgressions and journalistic crimes against them. Sadly for Cronkite, they've gone to a better place.

Obama Lied... Jobs Died.

Wow. That's what I love

Wow.

That's what I love about Debbie Schlussel.  Like Ann Coulter, she pulls no punches and takes no prisoners.

 

mb... Ditto all of your

mb...

Ditto all of your post above.

I just love Debbie, always have....Coulter goes without saying.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Very excellent analysis.

  Just a couple of thoughts to add.

  We did not lose the war in Vietnam. We signed a peace treaty in 1972 in Paris. We honored that peace treaty by immediately starting to pull our troops out. The North Vietnamese broke the treaty 2 years later and the Democrats in Congress at the time refused to back up an ally.

  We never lost a single battle in Vietnam. Not one. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

I just wish Schlussel had

And Schlussel didn't include the millions who died in Cambodia after we showed that we would desert our allies...

Now, our President has let it be known to the world that we will trade terrorist prisoners for hostages.

I have a sick feeling.....

 

Hear, hear

It's impolitic to say it, but it's true.  Cronkite was not a good man.  I don't know what his spiritual leanings were in his last days, but the man has got a lot to answer for, and he won't be able to editorialize his way out of it.

Geez...

...you folks are getting as bad as the MSM on Michael Jackson.

 Can we stop the endless Cronkite bashing posts, please?

Stop the endless Cronkite

Stop the endless Cronkite bashing?  Bashing?  Hell partner, he deserves a lot more than what he's been getting.  So far it's been fairly light.  He SET the agenda for the rest of these America loathing, America is at fault, so-called journalist we have spouting off today.  Bashing?  Cronkite deserves a place in the Anti-American hall of shame.  

And it's the SRM..state run media nowadays partner.  Cronkite knew what he was doing, he intended to do exactly what he set out to do. Undermine a war he didn't agree with at the expense of American lives.  Ho Chi Minh couldn't have had a better ally and he knew it, this Un-American POS.

Now it's a test just to see how Un/Anti-American these 'journalist' can make themselves be.  They try to one-up each other.  Well, at the rate these rags are going out of business it appears a change is in order.  But because their thinking is a mental disorder they won't change.   

Rex

Right on, Rex. And those of us who lived through Vietnam know of what we speak. With guys like Cronkite in the lead, the new age of modern "liberal", so-called "jounalism" took off and has gotten worse over the past four+ decades. Their ideology trumps all, particularly the objective truth. I'm sure if we check back, we won't see a peep of unfavorable, honest coverage of John Kerry lying to Congress from old Walter. And I wonder how he reported Carter's amnesty for the draft dodgers? He and his allies set the stage for the anti-American crowd that now haunts our newrooms. Their coverage of Iraq is an example of years of tradition by a biased, pathetic bunch of liars who spin the truth upside down every day of the week. Ironically, Walter Cronkite is one of their idols. Ted Kennedy murdered Mary Jo, at least by omission. Cronkite's omission of the truth and outright lies caused the death of thousands of young American patriots. He (nor Teddy) should not be honored by this nation.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

 

Bashing?

Since when is telling the truth bashing? When he reported on the Tet Offensive he crossed the line between journalist and politics.

WND has a good article today on his radical liberalism.

I used to respect him until he became a voice for the People for the (un)American Way.

Semper suprene nitens

North Carolina now has the worst government money can buy. 

My favorite Cronkite quote

My favorite Cronkite quote from that article:

We know that unilateral action in Grenada and Tripoli was wrong. We
know
that Star Wars means uncontrollable escalation of the arms race.
We know that the real threat to democracy is half a nation in poverty.
... We know that religious beliefs cannot define patriotism. ... God
Almighty, we've got to shout these truths in which we believe from the
housetops.

(emphasis mine)

Liberals always know things....they have "truths," not beliefs.

Even way back then, they were spouting their opinions and then claiming (as they still do today): That's a fact. 

Mercy

For Cronkite all i can say is "May God Have Mercy On His Soul, not my will Father but Thine be Done". Sadly, the article from Debbie Schlussel is very accurrate, and their are many more traitorous people in this country with blood on their hands regarding the Viet Nam era. It is quite possible that in the coming weeks and months "they" will finally be called to "account". What is occurring today in our country began with the anti-war, anti-life, anti-American, "liberal" punks of the 60s and 70s. Our country will not be safe until "they" art defeated and called to account.

With All Due Respect,

kilrod 

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Are you new to this site?

   Cronkite is a known liberal. Check out MRC. 

Believing in Conspiracies

Karl Rove "Probably Set Up bin Laden" Video
Walter Cronkite charged that Karl Rove "probably" arranged for a videotaped message from Osama bin Laden to show up just before the 2004 election: "I have a feeling that it [bin Laden’s new videotape] could tilt the election a bit. In fact, I’m a little inclined to think that Karl Rove, the political manager at the White House, who is a very clever man, that he probably set up bin Laden to this thing. The advantage to the Republican side is to get rid of, as a principal subject of the campaign right now, get rid of the whole problem of the al Qaqaa dump, explosive dump. Right now that, the last couple of days, has, I think, upset the Republican campaign."
— Cronkite on CNN’s Larry King Live, October 29, 2004.

http://www.mrc.org/Profiles/cronkite/welcome.asp

  This is about as loony as it can get. Oh dear, did I just bash Cronkite by calling him loony. Oh dear. I officially feel bad. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Have we met?

Repeats Allegation Rove Arranged bin Laden Video
During a November 18, 2004 promotional visit for the Fisher Island Philanthropic Fund in Florida, a children's charity, Cronkite, the Miami Herald reporter Glenn Garvin relayed how Cronkite "accused Republican political operative Karl Rove of orchestrating the release of a new Osama bin Laden tape last month to help President Bush win re-election."

http://www.mrc.org/Profiles/cronkite/welcome.asp

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

I know you from somewhere.

Evidence Planted on Grenada?
"Some of us were called in by Caspar Weinberger, when he was the Secretary of Defense. This was after Grenada, after the Grenada invasion, which again was not covered. We don't know the full story today. No reporters got in for three days. I don't know whether we really found a warehouse full of AK-47s there or not. Maybe we planted them there. I'm not saying we did, but we had three days to do it if we wanted to because we had no reporters get there at the beginning."
— Cronkite on CNBC's The Dick Cavett Show, March 4, 1994.

http://www.mrc.org/P...

You look very very familiar.

"Overreacted to the Soviets"
"I thought that we Americans overreacted to the Soviets and the news coverage sometimes seemed to accentuate that misdirected concern. Fear of the Soviet Union taking over the world just seemed as likely to me as invaders from Mars. Well, perhaps I was naive, but I'd seen those May Day parades and Soviet bread lines and miserable conditions hidden behind them. That war-devastated country didn't seem that threatening to me...The nuclear arms race was on in earnest. All the anti-Soviet paranoia that had been festering since the war really blew up then. A Soviet bomb was seen as an assault on us. But I saw it as part of their pursuit of nuclear equality. After all, what should we expect, that our enemy's just going to sit still there and not try to develop the bomb?"
— Cronkite on the year 1948 in Part 3 of the Discovery Channel's Cronkite Remembers, January 16, 1997.

http://www.mrc.org/P...

Do I sound a little torqued?

  We have a soldier whose very life is in danger right now.

 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD99H6VHO0

 Yet I am supposed to feel upset because someone somewhere said something mean about Cronkite.

Terrorism Caused by Economic Disparity

Terrorism Fueled by Poor Against the Rich
"I think very definitely that foreign policy could have caused what has happened [last September 11]....It certainly should be apparent now — it should be, for goodness sakes understood now, but it is not — that the problem is this great division between the rich and the poor in the world. We represent the rich....Most of these other nations of Africa, Asia and South America and Central America are very, very poor....This is a revolution in effect around the world. A revolution is in place today. We are suffering from a revolution of the poor and have-nots against the rich and haves and that’s us."
— Walter Cronkite on CNN’s Larry King Live, September 9, 2002.

 Yet, another liberal in a long line that blames America first. Yea, I am really really really really worried about Cronkite bashing. No, what, you don't believe me?

http://www.mrc.org/Profiles/cronkite/welcome.asp 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

I was done but this is too rich.

  I went over to Pat Dollards site after visiting here and he had very similar thoughts. He posted a bunch of stuff off the same MRC site as I did.

  Of course Pat Dollard is a veteran and runs a veterany oriented website.

  I would link but Pat and his followers curse like a sailor that just learned the joy of cursing. Don't want to hurt the sensibilites of all the Cronkite bashing please stop it-iters.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

End of a Despot

Outstanding editorial on Cronkite:

End of a Despot:  http://wizbangblog.com

"Ordinarily, members of the press enjoy a certain celebrity and influence, but rarely is one journalist considered to speak as the complete authority on the nation's welfare and direction. Cronkite built his credibility to the point, where for many Americans he spoke with indisputable authority. Cronkite played on that trust with his tag line each evening, saying "and that's the way it is." A man never elected by the public, and answerable to no one, could say what he wanted and have it taken as absolute truth by many millions, simply because he was the person saying it. There is no indication that Cronkite ever stopped to consider the moral obligation he carried, or to balance his broadcasts in order to make sure he was as objective as his image."

Read the whole thing.

What? There are uncommitted liberals out there?

Well then, dang it, we all better get out there and find these uncommitted liberals, and see to it they get committed.

Before the 2010 mid-terms.  :-)

-Dave

Ain't that that truth!! 

Ain't that that truth!!  LOL