WaPo Mocks Gov. Sanford As Weird and Unpopular, His Aide as a 'Kremlin Operative'

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Wil Haygood of The Washington Post had some fun at Republican Gov. Mark Sanford’s expense in Wednesday’s Style section, insisting that Sanford was a laughingstock, a man who went missing because he was strange and unpopular for resisting the appeal of the Obama "stimulus." Haygood began:

After all those weird stares, after he fought against stimulus money meant to help his fellow South Carolinians who've lost jobs at an astounding rate, after the blitzkrieg of complaints from Democrats, no one had to tell Gov. Mark Sanford to take a hike.

He did it on his own.

Haygood even compared the South Carolina governor’s press aide to a Soviet stooge:

He'd dropped his security detail like a bag of stale potato chips over at reelection headquarters. He'd told his press spokesman to keep it all on the hush-hush, and the spokesman clammed up like a Kremlin operative.

"It's not unusual for him to take a few days off to recharge his batteries," Joel Sawyer, the Republican governor's spokesman, finally explained yesterday.

By then the winds of suspicion were wafting over the Carolina capital like smoke from a barbecue pit.

Sawyer, with political operatives caught between snickering and sniping about the governor's Houdini act, went into defense mode. "Obviously," he said, "some political opponents will be seeking to make political hay of it."

When news broke out that the governor was missing, the Democrats didn't exactly get out their GPS devices, but they did have some choice words.

"The people of South Carolina told Governor Sanford to take a hike after he said no to millions in job creation funds for political purposes, and he apparently took the advice quite literally," Hari Sevugan, a Democratic National Committee press secretary, harrumphed in a statement yesterday.

It’s quite transparent that the Washington Post would like nothing better than to turn the potential Republican field against Obama in 2012 into a pack of laughingstocks and insure that their hero faces only nominal opposition in his bid for re-election.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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One Sided Emnity

This emnity from a newspaper that left it up to the Inquirer to probe John Edwards lies, yet found space on its front page to use the neologism "macacca".

   Oh yes, obama's

   Oh yes, obama's stimulus money and his radicalization of our economic system.  Makes me think of Mao's 'Great Leap Forward' which was also a collossal failure.

Looking at that mincing

Looking at that mincing photo, surely it's Wil Gaygood. (And please, call him Shirley)

I mean, girlfriend -- purleeese.

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

Jack-I'm surprised

Jack I'm a little surprised to see you drifting from you usual crisp, clear analysis into the realm of the ad hominum.

Uh, CWG, look at the photo... I thought the same thing.

If you care about stomping out 'ad hominum' why not go to kos or du... you would love all of the oportunities to speak up there.

Perhaps you would like to comment on the article by this wp 'reporter' concerning his remarks about the SC Gov?  hmmm?

pahuber -- I think it's

pahuber -- I think it's obvious my tongue is firmly in my cheek on the ad hom.

That Gaylord the fourth just looks really really weird.

Pouty and sinister, remember Silence of the Lambs when the tranny killer is trying on his woman-skin-suit in front of the mirror, dancing to that disco record? Creepy.

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

Hi JB, and I totally concur with you, but I also find it funny

how some like CWG try disparaging any remark that is so obviously tame in comparison to the personal acidic article (WP) on a Republican.

I find that strangely disingenuous.

and... surely no post that

and... surely no post that references Airplane can ever be an ad hominem attack.

Of course not. And don't call me Shirley. You don't know me well enough!

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

Ah, the case for moral

Ah, the case for moral relativism.  Those nasty lefty haters over at the Kos do this all the time.  Therefore, it's ok to do it here every now and again.

Go sell it elsewhere CWG, nobodies buying what your selling here

JB's comment was harmless and genuinely funny. 

* Until we see you being consistent with others then maybe you will start gaining some credibility.  Until then you are being a bit self righteous.

Professor Bauer:

As an aficionado and frequent purveyor of the ad hominum, appearance-based attack, I am obligated to second your observation:

Them are some mean looking CSLs there!

The Problem Is...

Every Republican knows they have a bullseye on their back and to say the least Sanford's behavior was bizarre.  A sitting governor leaving without a trace?

Haygood goes over the top as do most of the liberal stooges employed at The Washington Post, but Sanford brought this on himself.

Jack

"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart.  If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains."   Sir Winston Churchill

I bet the WashPost will get

I bet the WashPost will get right on the birth certificate and produce Barry's by Tuesday. Now that is something really whacky, ever heard of a US president playing hide and seek with his birth certificate?

Maybe this is why Barry Soreto can't pronounce freedom.

Birth Certificate widely

Birth Certificate widely available

I'm still confused about this mock controversy

How many times does it have

How many times does it have to be pointed out that this is nothing more than a certification COPY from "records"(allegedly)  -- and NOT the actual birth certificate that any US born citizen should have.

I don't mind you wasting your own time, but would appreciate you not wasting ours.

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

"The joke was about the copy

"The joke was about the copy of the birth certificate. The original birth certificate was not even at the game."

Siiigh Keep pretending,

Siiigh

Keep pretending, but it won't change reality.

cacc, what exactly would YOU know about reality? Please

elaborate... I'm sure you would be entertaining, as usual.

Now when you pray to your master please face towards DC since the new mecca resides there.

cracc, just be honest with us and yourself as you do not have

much of a clue to just about anything.

Nobody is buying what you have to sell...so why try and sell it?  Would YOU even buy what you are selling?  sheeeesh.

I'm not really big on the

I'm not really big on the Birth Certificate issue, however I did go to the link you posted.  I've been hoping to come across a conclusive argument in favor of a legitimate birth certificate, but this one hardly does the trick.  Why is the birth certificate stamped 2008 instead of signed on the date of birth?  Why doesn't Hawaii release the long form?

Away from the website, why has Obama spent hundreds of thousands of dollaras fighting the release of the document to the public?

While I'm not convinced Obama is not a natural born citizen, I'm not convinced he is either.

delete

delete

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

High command has issued their orders.

Ladies and Gentlemen may I present to you the MSM's next Sarah Palin!

To those who believe that late term abortion is a normal choice ... how is getting some peace & quiet "weird"? 

Argentina??

Sanford was in Argentina?  Oh no tell me it ain't so.

Jack

"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart.  If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains."   Sir Winston Churchill

Pick a Phrase

Pick a phrase . . . any phrase . . . to describe Sanford's actions this past week or so.  Is your word selection much different than that of Haygood?

Does that picture look like

Does that picture look like a gay Bill Cosby, that just ate a lemon?

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

The Leftists

The constant drum beating on the left is going to start working against them from here on in. The average American doesn't care for negativity and that's all the left has to offer. It's a constant smearing of the Right, and the more petty it gets, the worse it will be for left leaning media. Their dog and pony propaganda show will lose steam. Example: Professional angry idealogue Keith Olbergoebbels. His smear show is losing ratings faster than a tire with three roofing nails stuck in it. A moonbat can agree with him 100% and he's still unwatchable due to his complete insanity. The left still hasn't gotten the idea that they won the election, control all branches of government and they are the "man" to rail against. Will be interesting to watch Obama's administration fall apart and how the adoring Obama media will cover it...

 

As for Sanford, I don't believe he's stupid or crazy. I believe he has an uterior motive in this that will work to his advantage. At least I hope so for his sake.....

Argentina

Re Argentina: Sanford Met in Atlanta After Returning from South America: http://www.thestate.com

Agree with others, if I looked like that, I wouldn't call others weird.

Why did Sanford and his

Why did Sanford and his staff lie about his trip to South America?

Not exactly close to the Appalachian Trail now is it?

Very bizarre and shady.

A hike wouldn't have disqualified him, but lying about going abroad might.

Not a Presidential Contender

From where I sit on the Left Coast, Sanford has never looked like Presidential candidate material.  After this incident (irresponsibly shaking his security detail, hiking in Appalachia-no wait, a trip to exotic Argentina, his staff and his family unaware of where he was), my disinterest in having Sanford represent me is only strengthened.

_________________________________

Camouflage conservative in Baghdad-by-the-Bay

Get ready for comedy

It's really going to be comical to watch democratics declare Sanford unfit to hold higher political office after this story. A staggering level of chutzpah is needed, and they have it! They ignored the Bamster's lifelong history of mentoring by nutball 60's socialists like Frank, Wright, his father, etc. They ignored his slapstick comedy of a family, -the welfare grifter auntie, the ABW wife, the pedophile brother Samson, the drug dealer George, his no-count layabout bigamist absent father, his tramp of a mother, and certainly others we don't know about.

Not to mention his unknown nationality and citizenship, his total lack of documentation on his schooling, his forged draft registration, his unknown and mysterious source of funding for his schooling, and his history of cocaine use.

None of that mattererd then. But horrors of horrors, Sanford likes vacation getaways! Katie bar the door, we've got a major story here!

Speaking of weird. That guy with the glasses...

and pursed, half smiling lips looks pretty weird to me.  The guy who said the photo reminds him of a gay Bill Cosby got it right.  I've always said Liberals usually describe themselves when criticizing others.  Jim Webster

This is the mindset of the

This is the mindset of the leftopians.  They are not involved in a debate, so they feel no need to treat non-leftopians as legitimate participants in a debate, but merely strange, demented, idiotic, ignorant, evil, etc. people who must be mocked and vilified.

The response to people like this is to mock, insult and ridicule them - don't even engage the debate. 

But, I guess when you look like an effeminate nerdy mama's boy, you have to lash out at someone.

Where's Vera Baker?

Let's also not forget the US old media absolutely refused to look into Vera Baker. Recall that M'chell insisted she be sent away during the 2004 campaign, never to be seen again. Reports are that she is still hiding in Martinique.

Obama Hit by Affairs Smears: http://www.dailymail.co.uk

Meanwhile, no less than al New York Times sent reporters down to South America to dig up an old girlfriend John McCain had a relationship with when he was a single man in the US Navy. 

 

Democrat politician trysts

Democrat politician trysts = virility.

Republican politician trysts = sleeze.

Think we learned this quite well with Clinton and in a retroactive sort of way with JFK.  Eisenhower's tryst did little to tarnish his image as he was instrumental (well, so they tell me) in destroying European National Socialism.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

Democrat politician with gay

Democrat politician with gay whorehouse being run out of his own apartment = promotion to Chair of House Financial Services Committee.

guvna

 

I think that what he did was strange, & if I was his wife I would have a TON of questions, but the coverage is defintely lopsided.  If he was a Democrat we would have never heard a thing about it. 

Tam

Maybe he was...

FOX NEWS REPORTS: The National Institutes of Health are paying researchers to cruise six bars in Buenos Aires to find out why gay men engage in risky sexual behavior while drunk -- and just what can be done about it. Spending $400,000 in taxpayer money !!!

 Maybe he just went down to check on the status of this study???

Aw Crap, This Was The Concern

I'm here in Columbia, SC, listening to his live press conference- He has admitted to having an affair, and has announced he will step down as Chair of the Republican Governors Association. I was concerned about him as a candidate (Pres, 2012), and this pretty much affirms that concern.

What is it with people? 

What is it with people?  Instead of having an affair, try to work out things with your spouse, or get a divorce.  But keep it in your pants while you have a spouse.  We should be above acting on every impulse that comes to us.

I couldn't agree more. I'm

I couldn't agree more. I'm definately disappointed, as I have supported a number of his policy positions. But incidents such as these is why I don't elevate politicians, even ones I support, to a position other than human. Humans I don't know, for that matter, which allows me to care even less.

Re Crap

Yep, he's toast. If he was a democratic, this would be a resume enhancement, but not for Republicans.

Mark Sandford. What a total

Mark Sandford. What a total jerk.

What's wrong with these people?

Oh and Mark -- thanks for providing a nice distraction for the media whilst Obama continues his work of screwing America.

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

While I completely agree,

While I completely agree, did the media really need to be distracted from Obama's screwing of America? It seems they distract themselves quite well.

dutch -- yeah, true. Of

dutch -- yeah, true.

Of course, the funny thing is, the bimbo eruption actually qualifies him to run for President, using the Clinton and Kennedy school for scoundrels model.

Ho hum -- at least most Americans haven't actually heard of Sandford.

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

Obama steps on ant; media awestruck

And if we're REALLY lucky, Obama will step on an ant during his Healthscare Obamaganza tonight, and that will be the big story for next three days.

Instead of the whoppers he will lay upon the American public. 

Guess he's not in the president business anymore

Boinked some woman--how imaginative. Was it really in Argentina? Was a tango contest involved? Anything interesting?

Compare Sanford to Clinton

Let's compare how this news breaks and how many defend Sanford with what happened with Bill Clinton. What Sanford has done is nowhere near 1/10th of Bill Clinton's dallying, yet liberals lined up to defend him. Let's measure the faux-outrage of the old media liberals over this with their defense of Billy.

slick -- but don't forget

slick -- but don't forget that Clinton (like all Demcrats) ran on an explicit platform that rejected family values, and quite clearly stated that he would screw around, cheat on his wife, betray his family.

When you make it clear like that before the vote you can't be called a hypocrite when you make good on your promises.

Clinton quite clearly said that when, at the Democrat Primary convention in 1991, he left his wife and kid at home, toappear on stage with the floozie with the D-cups -- introducing her as America's next First Mistress!

You see the difference?

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

Why was this a story?

Now seriously, this has unfolded very strangely. From the moment he left his office, this story was pumped into the liberal media. From the beginning I asked myself, why is this a story? Ask yourself why?

I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway on any Republican possible nominee for 2012. I suggest that people are being followed, that federal employees are illegally accessing online passport and other information, and informers are in place. I have no evidence, this is pure speculation.

Now that Pellicano's plumbers are out of business, does anyone know which company has taken over democratic party investigations of opponents? We are dealing with the Chicago Machine, which has moved lock, stock and barrel to Washington, DC, and now has unlimited resources to dig up dirt. Don't put anything past them. The woman may have even been a democratic party plant. If I can think this up, they can too, and because they are unbounded by any moral or legal restrictions, they will do anything that can be imagined.

"I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway...

"I am guessing that a democratic operation is underway on any Republican possible nominee for 2012"

"The woman may have even been a democratic party plant"

My thoughts exactly.  It does not excuse the behavior though.  But nonetheless sure looks like something Woodward could look into!

v

Republicans dominating

Republicans dominating adultery.

Craig, Vitter, Ensign, now Sanford...so much cheating my head is spinning! 

And that's just in the past 2 years!

So are you keeping score on te dems?

So are you keeping score on the dems too?

v

btw: with Republicans it's hypocracy, with dems it's "just being caught"

Can't view the link. Why

Can't view the link.

Why don't you post the names.

But in a head to head battle it's  not even close.  Republicans are dominating this one!

Giuliani, Gingrich, McCain..the list goes on and on!

Not even close?

You conveniently forget that only the second president in history to ever be impeached was a Democrat - and it was over poontang.

I'd say you'd have to add at least 25 Rep. governors or congressmen to your scoreboard to top that.

hay cacciato, scroll your mouse over the "red' and click it...

Works for me..

John F. Kennedy: widely known to have had many extramarital affairs
while President - including one with Marylin Monroe.

William Jefferson Clinton- Gennifer Flowersgate - Paula Jonesgate-
The Lewinsky Affair - Perjury and Jobs for Lewinskygate - Kathleen Willeygate
- Jaunita Broaddrick Gate

John Edwards: Ex-Democrat presidential candidate and Senator-
admitted to having an extramarital affair during his campaign for president
while his wife was suffering from brast cancer.

Reverand Jesse Jackson: Ex-Democrat presidential candidate
admitted in 2001 to having an extramarital affair and fathering a
child out of wedlock.

Barney Frank: U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted
to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently
hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington
apartment for prostitution. A move to expel Frank from the House of Representatives
failed and a motion to censure him failed.

Colorado Sen. Gary Hart: He was considered the front-runner for
the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination until the press uncovered
his extramarital affair with 29-year-old model Donna Rice. He dropped
out of the race a week later.

New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer: Democrat - New York governor - resigned
from office after being tied to a prostitution ring and having affairs
with prostitutes..

New Jersey Gov. James McGreevey: McGreevey resigned three months
after admitting in 2004 that he had had an extramarital affair with a
male employee.

Modesto Rep. Gary Condit: Authorities revealed Condit had an extramarital
affair in 2001 with intern Chandra Levy, who had disappeared. In 2002,
he lost a primary election, and Levy's remains were found in a Washington
park. The case is still unsolved.

Florida U.S. Rep. Tim Mahoney: admitted he had an affair with
an aide and it is reported paid her $121,000 to keep her quiet and avoid
a sexual harassment lawsuit.

Henry G. Cisneros: Former housing secretary under Bill Clinton
pleaded guilty to a single misdemeanor charge of lying to the FBI about
money he paid to a former mistress.

Rep. Mel Reynolds: of Illinois was convicted in 1995 of sexual
assault against a 16-year-old girl- sentenced to five years in prison.
President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick: Text messages indicate he had
an extramarital affair with his chief of staff.

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom: The mayor admitted an extramarital
affair in 2007 with the wife of his former deputy chief of staff.

Marion Barry: Democrat - mayor of Washington, D.C., from 1979
to 1991 and again from 1995 to 1999. Convicted of cocaine possession after
being caught on videotape smoking crack cocaine ith a longtime female
friend.

Gov. David A. Paterson acknowledged Monday having extramarital
affairs during a period in their 15-year marriage.

Gerry Eastman Studds - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts
from 1973 to 1997. The first openly gay member of Congress. Censured by
the House of Representatives for having sexual relations with a teenage
House page.

Former New York Rep. Fred Richmond: arrested in 1978 for soliciting
sex from a 16-year-old boy. He remained in Congress and won re-election,
but resigned in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

Jerry Springer - Democrat - Resigned from Cincinnati City Council
in 1974 after admitting to paying a prostitute with a personal check,
which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor.

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa: Announced he had a 2007
extramarital affair with a television reporter covering City Hall. He
has filed for divorce from his wife, and remains in office.

David Giles: Candidate for U.S. Representative from Washington
in 1986 and 1990. Convicted in June 2000 of child rape.

Neil Goldschmidt: Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal
sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as
Mayor of Portland.

Kentucky Governor Paul Patton: political career fell apart after
allegations he retaliated against an ex-mistress' business when she ended
the affair.

Ohio Rep. Wayne Hays: Rresigned from Congress in 1976 after his
mistress, Elizabeth Ray, said he hired her as part of his staff.

Washington Sen. Brock Adams: abandoned a reelection campaign in
1992 amid numerous allegations from women of drugging, assault and rape.

West Virginia Governor Bob Wise: admitted to an extramarital affair;

Allan Turner Howe: U.S. Representative from Utah from 1975 to
1977. Arrested for soliciting a policewoman posing as a prostitute.

Joseph Waggonner Jr.: U.S. Representative from Louisiana from
1961 to 1979. Arrested in Washington, D.C. for soliciting a policewoman
posing as a prostitute

 

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

What's the point of this

What's the point of this list?  These are just the names of those who have been caught.  Think of all the others who got away with it.  On BOTH sides.

It doesn't excuse what the governor did.  He's just as bad as every name on this list.  So perhaps he's more "democrat" than you ever suspected, eh? 

Hay DEATH viewer, I was providing a Public service for another

 
poster.. 

Link or slink eh!

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

Hey, hay is for

Hey, hay is for horses.

Thanks for the public service.  Good list.   

death viewer, where is your evil republican 'list?

and is it bigger, longer than my list?

 

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

Until now I hadn't thought

Until now I hadn't thought to compile a list.  I'm not sure anyone cares to see it.  I don't, as I already made my point that they're ALL cheaters and liars.  These names on your list are the misfortunate few to have been caught.  

Let's start a pool on which scumbag politician will be the next to get busted.  Dem or Rep, what do you think? 

50/50 and you will break even...

So far its about 20/80... you owe some CASH.

Oh you want to swipe the slate clean..

fine then see you on 06/24/2010..

We'll tally up then.

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

You have a list of 80?  Can

You have a list of 80?  Can you provide?  Never mind, I don't really care.  We'll talk in 2 years.

KDW

"These are just the names of those who have been caught."

You dismiss a stat that clearly shows the outnumbering of Dems in affairs vs. Repubs by sending us off-course into the realm of guessing and "hey, who knows, what-if" ??

Think of all the others who got away with it.

Think of.... a complete unknown entity? 

I really do think liberals have something missing upstairs that would otherwise make them think logically.

Also, even if the numbers were relatively even, which they're not, look more closely at the Dem list and notice just how many are really over the top in the realm of being so devoid of even an ounce of morality or shame -- which, again, is perfectly in line with their wonderful "anything goes" party ideology.

You have TWO presidents on the list.

You have a high-profile, 2-time presidential candidate who not only had an affair behind his ailing wife's back, but fathered a child.... WHILE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

You have Jesse Jackson, the current sad-sack leading voice of blacks/minorities, who also ran for president, fathering a child out of wedlock.

You have Spitzer, governor of a huge state (NY) taking trips to DC on the government dime paying for a prostitute.... while he was going AFTER prostitution rings.

Just a sampling, but they're so outrageous and heinous.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

You just have the

You just have the convenience of having a list already made out for you to post.  I had trouble finding one of Conservatives, but then again I only spent a minute looking.  

Is this some kind of contest for you?  I don't HAVE Kennedy, or Spitzer, or Jackson, or Edwards...I didn't elect any of them.  The fact remains here, all these guys are cheats.  You can't trust them.  You've been rallying behind Sanford since he called for Clinton to stand down, and here he is caught doing the same thing.  Who can you trust?  I'll put my money down that he'll get caught too. 

The point that you are so

The point that you are so vigirously ignoring is that Chachie's comment: Republicans dominating adultery is non-sense.

That's what the list demonstrates.

 

And it's driving you crazy!

You must have misread

You must have misread something, because I never defended that statement.  My argument has consistently been that we only know about the few who have been busted and many more cheats are out there.  You're trying to make it a contest, I'm leveling the field.  You seem to be defending republicans who get caught cheating on their wives because there are more democrats who have been caught.  We can sling names back and forth all day, but it's a waste of time.

You were already called out

You were already called out on that BS too.

we only know about the few who have been busted and many more cheats are out there.

You just contradicted yourself there.

Interesting that you assume so many more are cheating . . .

Did you think Sanford was

Did you think Sanford was cheating on his wife when he was preaching family values?  

No, you're right.  He's the last of them.  I don't know how you read that as a contradiction, but feel free to go with it. 

If you know that so many

If you know that so many more are cheating and not getting caught, name them.

Otherwise, you're just assuming

UPDATE: ANd don;t change the subject Troll.

YES!  I am totally assuming

YES!  I am totally assuming this, and the sleazeballs we've elected to office continue to prove me right.  3 months.  I give it 3 months before someone else is caught.  When that happens, I will be right again.

KDW

Uh, yeah, it's essentially a contest, if you want to use that word. What else is it? You're a Democrat, correct?

I'm saying -- we're saying -- Dems are far worse when it comes to integrity, ethics, values, etc.. And, naturally, Dems/libs don't make a big deal out of it, dancing on their graves (which would mean a whole lot of dancing) -- quickly "moving on" and sweeping one after the other under their rug -- as they're *NOT* the party of family values.

I love when they just go nuts when one of ours, like this latest Sanford guy, has an affair and they trot out the "look at the hypocrisy! from the 'family values' party!" They (you?) take so much pride in offering something alternative to having values.

When you start with your "is this a contest" defense, it's also the lib's clever way of defusing a lost debate with the "we're all in this together, all guilty, all this-that". No, we're not. That's why there are two parties, and I'm in one vs. the other because I find it BETTER.

I also harken to that ABC guy defending his unbelievable pro-healthcare reform special and how it will include no counter-argument guest, saying "we don't need a bipolar debate". Um, a debate is where you bring point and counter-point together.... it's essence IS just that, that it be bipolar.

Sorry to ramble, but I'm just trying to encourage more critical thinking.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Who do you think I'm

Who do you think I'm defending here?  The only contest to come out of this is case is the next gubernatorial election.  

No, I am not a democrat.  I haven't been a registered democrat since 1992.  I'm an independent and I voted for Ralph Nader.  It's easy for liberals to go nuts over a guy like Sanford because he made a lot of noise, and he just branded himself a hypocrite.  It's not acceptable for any of these a-holes to cheat on their spouses, and even if it's 1000-1 in favor of Republicans, that 1 gets to join a notorious club.  Branded for life.  But enjoy your better party.  It's still full of cheats.

As far as health care goes, I'm not in favor of the president's proposal either.  I have amazing coverage which will continue as long as I am a member of my union.  Call me selfish.  I don't care.  And I'm barely paying attention to the debate.  That's why you won't see me on those threads. 

Oh great!   Another

Oh great!

 

Another in-DUH-pendant.

 

(who would admit that they voted for Ralph Nadar?)

KDW

I'm sort of with Free... I think being an Independent is like voting "present".

But back to our debate/discussion, which I've already won (sorry.) How is it the likes of Sanford are hypocrites? Is it any less virtuous and noble that he's representing the party that tries to kept the bar higher in regards to basic values in society, even if he -- being human -- slips?

Also, I don't get your logic at all in saying even if one party had 1000 "known" cheats (let's stick with ones caught, okay? as we don't know, well, the unknown) vs. a party that had one, that none of that matters and "they're all cheats." Again, you keep coming back to this fuzzy relativity-way of looking at it, when I thought we're trying to recognize what party has more merit.

The Independent party -- or any party -- certainly has 1, 10, 100 cheats, who knows. I would certainly want to be aligned with the party that, on average, has the least number of cheats (and I'm going beyond just relationship cheating here, but overall ethics cheating, corruption, etc..)

Wouldn't you? Wouldn't anyone?

 

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Once again, you're the one

Once again, you're the one making it a contest here.  Why is it that when a republican gets caught he "slips" but when it's a democrat it's the end of the world?  Do you cheat on your wife?  I don't get why anyone excuses this.

Being an independent means I don't belong to a club, and I don't have to choose absolute sides.  I find it to be a huge fallacy in thinking that you believe in all democratic or all republican principles.  I just don't buy it.  

You'll never win!  And I'm not running away now.  I'm just leaving work. 

KDW

Don't be intellectually dishonest. You belong to a club. It's called "Independent".

I'm about the most independent (no pun intended) thinker out there, but I am not going to pretend to be "above it all" and say I'm not siding with any "club" (to use your word, which you use to belittle the concept of political parties.) I am a realist, and realize I have to vote for the best representative party for me, which is the Republican party, hands down.

And sorry, in life, you do have to choose absolute sides sometimes. Do you never take a side, is that what you're saying?

Yes, I believe in just about (that I know of, though I'm on the fence a bit with pro-life/choice, and a bit with gays, but marriage to me is man-woman) all Republican principles. How is that, in any way, a fallacy? Don't you stop to think of the historical reason these and all other parties were born?

Man, you are Sir King (or Queen?) Wishy Washy. Independents, Libertarians, Liberals.... it's true.... are all pretty much the same.

 

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What's dishonest about not

What's dishonest about not wanting to be part of a club who discriminates?  Even if I was a republican, why would I want to be known as one of them?  Just take a look around this site and see the seething hate that people have towards liberals.  I don't want to be associated with them, nor do I want to be associated with the democrats who are nothing more than a bunch of p**sies.  They won the majority in congress in '06 for one reason only - they promised to cut funding and end the war.  They've accomplished nothing.  The entire last 2 years of Bush's presidency they did absolutely nothing.  The democrats are weak.  Period.

There are quite a few democratic/liberal beliefs that I disagree with.  I believe in the death penalty, I am against allowing even one illegal immigrant to be allowed to stay in this country without proper immigration procedures, against the dems insane tax ideology, and Obama's health plan.

So no, I don't have to choose democrat or republican, and at least I have the balls to say I don't want to belong to their club.  I vote for who I think will best represent the people, not just the guy who's looking out for me.  There's a bigger picture than me. ©

So continue with your "you libs are all the same" crap.  It's just crap. 

KDW

"Just take a look around this site and see the seething hate that people have towards liberals."

Okay, we're spiraling way off-topic now, but oh well.

Do you really know what "seething hate" is?

One definition -- or tell-tale sign -- that's absolute (try absolution, really, it's not so bad ;)) is when someone literally cannot converse with you, or be "associated" with you, anymore. Not sure how much of this, if any, you're getting on this site (granted, there might be some not-so-great apples here) as many of us continue to engage you, and always will, I'm confident. But the stories I could tell you of what I get from the left are stories of utter contempt for me and a total intolerance.

But yes, I'll maintain that a big part of you fools yourself into thinking that you don't "side" with anything, which is why you call yourself an Independent. And my view of this is more nuanced than you're grasping, I think, as you are painting me as rigid, which is so far from the truth.

Also, you're calling the Democrates in post-2006 "p*ssies" -- a tone I can only interpret as revealing that you're sort of on their side and angry that they did not stick to their strong ideologic policies, which I gather are mostly yours as well.

So again, you wax about how you don't side with anything, but that's nonsense. Siding with things -- even a group of things -- does not not make you unique or not an individual.

 

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KDW re: "seething"

Giving this more thought, I believe we just hate liberals, but it's not seething. We put up with them and always let them have their idiotic say, again and again, a lot more than they-us. A whole lot more, IMO.

 

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What do you base this on?

What do you base this on? Just because Republicans talk more about family values, doesn't mean they necessarily are better than Democrats.

bal

"Just because Republicans talk more about family values, doesn't mean they necessarily are better than Democrats."

Bal, what is YOUR take on it? Unfortunately, you slipped in "necessarily", so you've painted more balboa shades of grey, wonderful. You're at it again.

Do the Repubs putting the promotion of "family values" prominently on their agenda make them:

a) better (whether a lot or a little) than Dems

b) the same as Dems

c) worse than Dems (regardless of how much)

PLEEEEEASE, try to answer with a, b or c, on this one. Otherwise, what ARE you on this thread to say, as far as you're opinion, other than more bal vagueness? 

 

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My "vagueness" is a direct

My "vagueness" is a direct result of your confidence in your statement.

B. I don't think Republicans talking the talk makes them better or worse than Dems. I think they would like everyone to think that because they talk about family values all the time. 

bal

Aah, when one person is resolute in their beliefs, you're response is to be the opposite. Okay.

I admire you for selecting one of the three, btw. That was a pleasant surprise. :)

I would agree to disagree, though, and say that Republicans don't advocate more values in the family and in society solely to appear "authentic". They believe upholding these values politically are essential. 

 

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MrShy, when your belief is

MrShy, when your belief is that this set of people is better than this set of people, yes, my response is "How do you know?"

And Republicans believe in upholding these values politically, until they're discovered to be having an affair. 

What a load of bollocks.

What a load of bollocks. With the greatest respect bal.

Do Democrat presidential candidates, Senators, Congressman run on the anti-"family values platform? I must have missed that because they all seem to imply they agree with "family values."

(Barney Frank doesn't count.)

For instance, did Eliot Spitzer use his family as props to support him as an everyday American family man, just like his voters -- or did I miss the part where he said..

"As a proud whoremonger I shall be humiliating my wife and family. Vote4Spitzer. Yea."

I mean that's what he did. Did he advertise it first? Or did he pretend to be just a family guy, like his Republican opponent?

I hope to return to this subject when Obama's little pecadilloes finally make it to the front page. Because this guy out-family-valued any Republican is recent memory.

“For God's sake, somebody tell Obama that a TRILLION is one MILLION MILLION!!!!

No, Democrats don't run on

No, Democrats don't run on "anti-family values," but I think we both know that Republicans put family values up front in most things they do, it's a big part of any Repub's platform.

And again, I'm not saying Democrats are better. But I don't think you can say, as Mr. Shy did, that one group of politicians is flat-out better than the other in the values department.  

Jack.... I'm waiting for

Jack....

I'm waiting for those little peccadilloes to come out to regarding O....knowing the press, they never will.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Gee, I notice cracc ran away after this post.... hmmmm guess he

was proven to be wrong again.  I think being wrong is some sort of kinky fetish for cracc.

There is no proof in this

There is no proof in this list.  It's an incomplete list of only those who've been caught.  And what's the difference in who's ahead?  There's no excuse for any of these a-holes.

And are you stalking cacciato?  The 2 of you keep going at it.  Or are you just playing good cop/bad cop with one of your alter-egos? 

KDW, do you run backup for cracc or JasonC? I noticed you pop

up whenever somebody on your side of an issue makes themselves look pretty ignorant... then you come out like the rodeo clown to save the poor bastard from getting gored by the truth.

Case in point:

- cracc challenges for a list of democrat adulterers and that is provided in detail and as requested by your bud cracc.

- cracc runs off and you come in to question why the list was posted and question what good the list does... how nice of you.

- I mention that our resident troll idiot has run off again in light of the facts.

- You pop up to accuse me of stalking or having 'alter egos'...

* You have become predictable KDW and not much regarded on this site... I certain believe you understand why this is... if not, God help you.

p.s.  Pray tell, who else do you think I am in this NB's forum anyway?

Yes, cacciato runs off and

Yes, cacciato runs off and you arrive, just like the other times.

You might notice I was actually part of this section of thread before you showed up, so my defending him is perfectly acceptable.  

You've run out of names and adjectives to call me.  You've become your own cliché.  Now tell me to go back to Kos and Huff.

I suspect you may actually be cacciato, as well as G May, but I'll keep you posted on that as I gain more proof.

OMG KDW, you believe that I am Gmay and/or Cacc! That makes me

want to have you around just for the fun.  I am sure they are not going to be happy with you though. 

Sounds like it has been you tracking/stalking me doesn't it since you seem to have all of the 'answers'... anyway, you are truly losing your cool.

- Why would I want to be cracc?  I do not know much about Gmay.

- Other than troll what other names have I called you?  I have allready said your name does not offend me... I thought it had something to do with the kenedy curse thing.  Have I ever said go to huffpo to you or kos... not that I haven't wished that, but I do not recall...

"You might notice I was actually part of this section of thread before
you showed up, so my defending him is perfectly acceptable.
"

Never said it wasn't as I was only pointing out that cracc was pretty cocky till the list was posted.  Then he vanished...again like most of you liberals do when you have been vanquished.  Then like a rodeo clown you came in to run defense or diversion...  call it what you want.

I'm just making simple

I'm just making simple observations about you and who you're knocking heads with.  Given that you and I have gotten into it a few times over the past weeks and months, your name catches my attention.  Perhaps most other liberals run off when they don't have a counter argument, but I'm still around and not really planning on quitting anytime soon. 

KDW

"but I'm still around and not really planning on quitting anytime soon."

That's one thing we can all give you kudos on. But you're taking a real beating. Maybe you're our next "shawn", who came here essentially a liberal and hung around, and things slowly started to sink in for him.... it takes time. :)

 

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But you're taking a real

But you're taking a real beating.

That's funny - I can't find a single thread where I've lost an argument.  Keep up the good work, and maybe you'll get to me... eventually. ; )

From what I've been reading

From what I've been reading KDW, you are losing a LOT of arguments. 

Now look what you've done... gone and hurt his feelings ; )

I think he believes he is making a difference rather than proving our points.

Sorry Pah, I didn't mean to

Sorry Pah, I didn't mean to abandon you but I escaped from the steel cuffs that had me chained to my desk.  I don't think you could ever hurt my feelings.  I don't even know who I'm talking to most of the time.

No

None.

You come from the Obama

You come from the Obama school of self-confidence I see...

I'm tired of this argument

I'm tired of this argument over who's winning an argument.  Every conservative has always won every single argument on this site, because there are a slew of conservatives to back them up.  It's a pointless argument to have, so feel free to believe whatever you'd like.  I'm not keeping score.

I'm not keeping

I'm not keeping score

Well, you kind of are when you say you never lost an argument here.

 

KDW, my problem with you is that you always accuse me of calling

you names every time I have posted to you as of late.  Then you said I have told you to leave and go elsewhere.  Other than troll or seminar troll what other names have I called you and when did I ask you to leave?  I am just curious.  I thought that I have been pretty polite, as of late to you.  Now you say that I am more than one person.  What gives.

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"If you care about stomping out 'ad hominum' why not go to kos or du... you would love all of the oportunities to speak up there"

I like it here.  I have for over 3 1/2 years.  There's a long record of where I stand.  Are you suggesting I leave too?

Tracking Repubs?

By the way, it's now very easy for democratics to track any person. They just pick up the phone and demand that the credit-card issuing banks do a check on card use. Ask Citibank if there are any plane tickets on Sanford's Visa account? No problem? Ask Wells-Fargo if there are any hotel charges on Sanford's Mastercard account? In a few clicks.

Imagine how powerful the Bamster will be when all your medical records can be accessed by the administration just as Joe Wurzelberger's financial records were accessed in Ohio. Mitt Romney's daughter-in-law twice removed had an abortion in 1993? That's it for him.

At least he's not illegally

At least he's not illegally tapping our phone lines.

death viewer ..... relax it's legal now

Democrats went on and on about Bush and his Nazi tendencies (while
Conservatives defended him), meanwhile Obama follows the exact same
policies and…. not a word… no Keith Olbermann tirades, no Naomi Wolf
videos, no outrage.

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

He would learn

A lot less from your phone calls then he will from your medical record and the other spying they are doing. But your fine with that? Your priorities are pretty sad.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I guess this is your bad

I guess this is your bad luck.  I don't use bank issued credit cards.  Amex and Discover baby!

Discovery with 21%

Intrest? No doubt that is why you free loaders want credit card reform? 

What the hell that has to do with the subject at hand must only be obviouse to a liberal?

{My bad luck} is you get to vote

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

What does my interest rate

What does my interest rate have to do with using a credit card?  Don't you pay your balance off each month?  When you do that you don't have to worry about interest rates.  It's called being responsible.  Don't buy something you can't afford.  Oh wait, fiscal responsibility! 

It's called being responsible. No duh

 
But I am not the one with the Discovery card.

 Don't you pay your balance off each month?

BTW mister personal responsibility, I dont own or have never had a Balance on any card. Debit baby!

Your user name is kinda gross, or have I mentioned that before?

 

My Gov. thinks I am danger be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

My user name has nothing to

My user name has nothing to do with Ted Kennedy as I've said many times before.  I have made multiple attempts to contact Newsbusters to have my name changed, and have yet to hear back from them.  I've done all I can in this case.

death voyeur, An obsessive observer of sordid or sensational

stuff.

You sound like ahh; long ago poster, with out the links that kept ya around here lonnnger than average.

Soon

credit card rules may change.

Insterest will be charged as soon as it occurs not delayed til the end of the month,  to tax folk just like you.

 

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

Fortunately finance geeks

Fortunately finance geeks like me will always stay a step ahead of these fools. 

Kdeath, We are still waiting for that HUGE list of republican

fornicators?

Lots of Governors

and lots Senators ?

This time spend more than a minute searching for them...

Oh, I'm waiting  for you to post your plan on how to dodge the tax man?

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

Ready?  I'm sure you'll

Ready?  I'm sure you'll reject this list, given the source. 

http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Scandals 

yea death, It's the seriousness of the charge that counts ...

Great list with stuff like this:

 
GWB. Republican president, accused in a criminal complaint and lawsuit of
raping Margie Schoedinger, who was later suicided. Accused by Tammy
Phillips, a former stripper quoted in the National Enquirer in 2000
saying she had an affair with Bush that had ended in 1999. Also noted
by Mrs. Blount whom G.W.BUSH while campaigning for her Husband Red
Blount and while G.W.BUSH was possibly A.W.O.L from the Air National
Guard at age 26
he was all over their 14 year old daughter.

To bad you don't read those links...

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

Hey, I already noted that

Hey, I already noted that you'd reject any link I provided.  If you really need me to, I can go through that long list and and individually post each of the more specific names of the ones which do apply.  But I have a feeling you'll deny that list as well.  

Okay, here's a few

Okay, here's a few highlights from just the last 5 years:

Mark Sanford, governor of South Carolina, disappears during Father's Day weekend, returning to confess an extramarital affair in Argentina

John Ensign, Senator from Nevada, refuses to resign after confessing to an extramarital affair with a married staffer, claiming she was trying to extort him

Robert "Bob" Allen, Florida state Rep. arrested in the afternoon at a Veteran's Memorial Park for solicitation of prostitution from an undercover male officer inside a restroom. According to the papers, Bob "offer[ed] to perform oral sex for $20". Bob later claimed that his offer had something to do with his being afraid of black people

John David Roy Atchison, Republican prosecutor, was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general

John Bryan, Republican city councilman, killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15

Larry Craig Republican Senator for Idaho, was arrested on July 11, 2007, by plainclothes police officer investigating complaints of lewd behavior in a Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport airport men's room. On August 8 in Hennepin County Municipal Court in Bloomington, Minnesota, Craig entered a guilty plea and paid a $500 fine.[16]. On September 1st, Craig subsequently announced his retirement from the Senate[17]. Five days later, Craig changed his mind, renounced his retirement and began a battle to have his guilty plea overturned

John R. Curtin, Monroe County state Republican committeeman, was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison

Richard Curtis, Washington State Rep., resigned from the House after reports of his sexual encounter with a male escort became public

Donald Fleischman, Brown County, WI, Republican Party Chairman, resigned his post after he was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child

Ted Klaudt, former South Dakota State Rep., found guilty of four counts of second-degree rape of two teenage foster daughters

Joseph M. McDade, 75, was issued a summons on a charge of exposure of sexual organs, a misdemeanor that carries up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. The longtime Pennsylvania Republican congressman who served for 36 years in the House and now works for a Washington lobbying firm, has been accused of exposing his private parts to two women at a beach resort on Sanibel Island

Joseph Monteleone Jr., Elyria city councilman, was found guilty of fondling underage girls and asking them to have sex with him

Armando Tebano, Schenectady County Republican Chairman, pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl

David Vitter, junior Senator from Louisiana, became one of the few high-profile politicians to be implicated as a client of "D.C. Madam" Deborah Jeane Palfrey

Mark Foley, Republican Representative, Florida Sixteenth Congressional District. Resigned after trying to solicit sex from male congressional pages via an instant messenger program. The conversations included his asking a sixteen-year-old "stud" whether his penis was erect and requesting that he take out and measure his penis. The cover-up involved Republican House Majority Leader John Boehner, Ohio Eighth Congressional District and Republican House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Illinois Fourteenth District

Ted Haggard, was fired as pastor of the New Life Church and resigned from his position as president of the National Association of Evangelicals in November 2006 after a former male prostitute alleged they had a cash-for-sex relationship. The man also said he saw Haggard use methamphetamine. Haggard confessed to undisclosed “sexual immorality” and said he bought meth but didn’t use it

Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California's rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He said that his son "acted accordingly" because the child was a "slut"

Jeffrey Patti, local Republican Committee chairman from Sparta, NJ, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped

Brent Schepp, Republican County Board Candidate was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later

John Gosek Republican Mayor of Oswego, N.Y.was arrested after paying a confidential informant $250 to introduce him to two 15-year-old girls at a hotel

Dr. W. David Hager Bush appointee, member of Focus on the Family's Physician Resource Council, player in movement to ban the morning-after-pill. Had an adulterous affair, before divorcing his wife he sexually abused her, including sodomizing her in her sleep

Jeff Miller, (R-Cleveland), Senate Republican Caucus Chairman in Tennessee and the sponsor of Tennessee’s Marriage Protection act, getting divorced (as of April 2005) because of an affair he was having with an office aid. Miller described the Tennessee Marriage Protection Act as a means of preserving the sanctity of marriage. He opposed an amendment, however, which stated that “Adultery is deemed to be a threat to the institution of marriage and contrary to public policy in Tennessee.

Jeffrey Kyle Randall, Republican Mayor of Clarkfield, Minnesota, was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys--ages ten and 12--during a six-year period

Don Sherwood, Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives. Eventually admitted to an affair with a woman 30 years younger than him, after she accused him of physical abuse and attempting to choke her

Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison

Bobby Stumbo, former Floyd County, KY, Republican Party leader, was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy

Jim West, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that “any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person” among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old bo

 

Crickets... You still there

Crickets...

You still there upcountry? 

Seen 'em...

Here's how your buddies in the press see it.

CNN’s Ali Velshi completely ignored all the past sex scandals involving
Democrats in recent years during a segment on Thursday’s Newsroom
program, and focused on “another sex scandal involving a leading
Republican.”

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

I don't watch CNN.  But now

I don't watch CNN.  But now with this list can we put this argument to rest?

Oh, so you wanna play this

Oh, so you wanna play this game now?  Okay, I'll bite.  Looks like FOX mislabeled both Sanford and Foley.  Shall we continue?

http://gawker.com/5302160/sanford-confesses-to-argentinian-affair?autoplay=true?skyline=true&s=i 

What About Clinton's Argentina Trip?

Compare the wall to wall coverage of Sanford and Argentina with Bill Clinton's Argentina trip only last week where he paid $1000 for a private session with stripper Andrea Rincon. That didn't get much coverage did it?

Bill Clinton Pays $1,000 ... : http://ace.mu.nu/archives/288962.php

What is it about Argentina?

Kerry Steps In It

Now John F'n Kerry (who served in Vietnam) has opened his mouth and stepped in it:

"The Bay State senator was telling a group of business and civic leaders in town at his invitation about the “bizarre’’ tale of how South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford had “disappeared for four days’’ and claimed to be hiking along the Appalachian Trail, but no one was really certain of his whereabouts. “Too bad,’’ Kerry said, “if a governor had to go missing it couldn’t have been the governor of Alaska. You know, Sarah Palin.’’"

Looks like another case of Palin Derangement.

Ref: http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog

 

holey crap

TMZ is reporting Micheal Jackson is dead, I was thinking when farrah went, that it comes in 3's (ed farrah  Micheal J)

Jackson has died from that

Jackson has died from that Heart-Attack?

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

hey BT, We have lost 3

hey BT,

We have lost 3 American icons in the last few days. :(    They are saying that they were giving him CPR in the wagon on the way to the hospital, and was pronounce dead on arival, not confirmed yet, TMZ is the only network running this story right now

Confirmed now

Confirmed now

Yeah roo, I've been

Yeah roo,

I've been follwoing the news...anyway, this needs to go to Open Thread.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

yep, just went to the most

yep, just went to the most popular thread at the time, big news, cheers

Take it to OT

Take it to OT roo.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart