Daily Kos Reader Favorite: An F-Bomb-Packed Rant Against Cheney

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For those highly mistaken people who think the liberals are the ones who bring gentleness and compassion and reasonableness to the political debate, we always have the rebuttal. It’s called the Daily Kos. This Thursday "diary" recently made it to the top of the Kosmonauts’ recommended list, despite the fact that the writer needs his keyboard washed out with soap:

F*** you Dick Cheney! F*** your pompous condecension. F*** your straw men! F*** your mischaracterizations! F*** your sniveling attempts to keep you and your buddies asses out of federal (somewhat offensive movie quote removed, happy now?) prison! F*** your presumption that we are a bunch of cowering idiots looking for daddy to protect us from the big bad terrorists. Just F*** YOU!...

That’s just the beginning. There’s 23 F-bombs in all from the author, code named "XneeOCon." (I wouldn’t want my real name attached to this foam-flecked fit, either.) Below it is a poll asking if Cheney is an a-hole a f-ing a-hole, or pie. The "FA" option is winning as of Sunday morning, with more than 3,000 votes (and 94 percent of the total.)

In case one believes that this kind of radicalism is rare, here are some other recent Kos droppings to step around:

Let's put this straight right off the bat: favoring the use of torture is not a political position, it's a mental illness. Any further discussion of torture should be unnecessary. However... our national media seems to be enthusiastically pimping depravity as a governing principle... – "Devilstower"

I think about the hate-filled voices in my own country, that seem to be multiplying rapidly since a dark-skinned man had the temerity to get elected president. These voices have always been here, yet something has changed. Openly calling for the overthrow of government is shrugged off. A Governor who talks of secession is treated as if this were not an insane thing to say. "Jokes" about killing liberals have become standard filler on the far right, like Ann Coulter’s allegedly humorous comment about blowing up the New York Times building, or Bill O’Reilly’s babbling about destroying San Francisco. Glenn Beck appears to be serious while ranting about FEMA camps and claiming "They are coming for you."

I have heard it suggested that such words should be ignored, that our attention only inflates their importance. And I understand the argument, that some (cough Coulter cough) are only in it for the attention. But when words become weapons, silence is not enough. – "Tara the Antisocial Social Worker," in a Hindu-goddess-influenced rant, comparing right-wing talkers to the genocide in Rwanda.

What I want to argue is that the H1N1 Swine Flu and Single-Payer have about as much to do with each other as Osama bin Laden and the Pentagon. The differences are that the :Pentagon exists and Single-Payer doesn't and to date it is assumed that bin Laden has killed more Americans than Swine Flu has. [Um, hasn’t he?] If Americans were honest with themselves they would acknowledge that the :Pentagon has killed more people than OBL could ever hope to kill. That it's an expensive, sacrosanct security blanket. Like Allstate's "good hands." – "Marie" trying to sell single-payer health socialism.

But this one may be the loopiest, because in between the slices of invective are recipes for nacho dip and green bean salad (I kid you not). "Makettle" teaches at a California community college, where she bitterly battled students who supported enhanced interrogation:

I discussed how the Germans agreed with the Halocaust [sic] because they were just Jews, and how white southerners agreed with lynchings because they were just "niggers." I congratulated those who embraced torture for finally finding a group they could fit in with.

Let’s hope she served nacho dip as a peace offering after class.

[Hat tip: Mo Udall Voter.]

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Tim, I agree that those Kos commentaries are sick.

However, I'd hate for Kos, or a similar site, to send someone to sail through what gets posted here.  They'd find a lot of the same vitriol--just aimed at different targets. Not as much of it, mind you, but it's still there.

We should have a better method of commentary here, all around.  How do we encourage that, and discourage the childishness?

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

I've Been Saved

OMG...how could I have been so blind?  Thank you sir for pointing out how we are no better than Kos/DU/HuffPo.

 

How could I have been so very blind to all of the times we threatened the life of Clinton/Gore/Kerry/Edwards etc. I feel so completely ashamed of all the Conservatives who drew bombsights over the Chicago residence of Presidebt Obama and posted it on Free Republic or Conservative Cave!

I now feel rightfully shamed of the many times that the Secret Service raided the offices of Jim Robinson to search his servers.

 *rolls eyes* 

You pompus ass!  To sit there all high and mighty and tsk tsk the rest of us for behavior that does NOT happen on a remotely regular basis on Conservative blogs is the definition of asinine.

You act like you're above the fray when in reality all you've done is named called the rest of us with bigger words.

 

Good day sir. 

 

Oh and to anticipate what you're thinking...yeah yeah I know..in your mind "this exemplifies what you were pointing out". 

 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Excuse Me?  The same

Excuse Me?  The same vitriol?  Get Real!  And just to clear things up for you, we DO have a better method of commentary here.  

 

Well, to be perfectly honest,

I did once call that Kevin Olbermenn fellow on MSNBC, a "poohead".

But he really, really is (a poohead, I mean). 

And I stand by that.

 

 

Let me ask you a question, then, kids.

Would you rather there be twenty-three cockroaches in your pizza, or just a dozen?

In reality, you don't want there to be one.

We would do well to encourage NB posters to stay on topic, rather than spewing bile.  The typical liberal haunts are virtual sewers, yes; however, there are enough leaks here to keep us busy for awhile.

It isn't a question of amount, but of kind--and the same kind of bile is found from people who post here.  Don't believe me?  Why, all you have to do is read the rest of the comments to this article.  Hey, the first comment after my original observation actually proved the point.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Here's a Thought

Practice what you preach about staying on topic Mikey...instead of going off on your own little agenda about tsk tsking the rest of us about commenting on the actual topic. 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Is that really your best response?

I made a comment to Tim about how we might want to police our own collective behavior, as well.  And this is twice, now, that you've confirmed my observation.  You want to make it three, or can you maybe throttle back?  

I don't like what they do at Kos and other such sites, but all too often we're not exactly the Algonquin Round Table here.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

It's The Best You're Gonna Get

Until you actually make a rational and reasoned comment about the topic that started this whole discussion that's the only thing you're gonna get Mikey.

 

Say something intelligent and relevant about the Kos F-Bomb opus and we can broaden your horizons a bit. 

Till then I'll just keep pointing out our hypocrisy about us not staying on topic while you do the same thing. 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Not surprising.

Familiar with the story about getting the plank out of your own eye before you get anything out of anyone else's eye?

The "rational and reasoned comment" I originally made was along those lines; it applied to the Kos nonsense as well as to our own home-court variant.  If it hit a little too close to home for you, well, then that's unfortunate.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Oh, and regarding your Olbermann observation...

On a recent KO thread, someone made this comment.  Do you stand by this one, too, or could it be just a bit out of bounds?  Quoting thusly, and like so:

Dear Bathtub Boy
May 23, 2009 - 01:39 ET by gordon
Another vacuous rant, Your Nothingness?
I really wish someone would hold this clown's head under the water til he stops wiggling. Thats my formula for peace, Mr. Olbermann. Its time you took a dirt nap. 

Your comments?

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

*ahem*

"We would do well to encourage NB posters to stay on topic, rather than spewing bile. " 

 

Practice what you preach Mikey.  The topic is an F-bomb rant at Kos.

 

Any thoughts on that?  Or are you incapable of doing that which you admonish the rest of us about? 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Mikey seems to be on an overdose of self righteousness.

He himself could not do what he advocated in his post.

Do you have a substantive comment?

It would be a refreshing change of pace.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Oh My

I sure hope you were looking in the mirror when you typed that Mikey. 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

This really hits close to home with you, doesn't it?

Never mind that you can't sign your name to your comments--is there something you'd like to share?  Something we all should know about?

Honestly, I'm concerned.  Did you lose a debate in high school due to too much ad hom?  Is there some episode in your past that makes this a particularly tender subject for you? 

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Thanks For Confirimg What We All Knew

"Never mind that you can't sign your name to your comments--is there something you'd like to share? Something we all should know about?" As opposed to you who only signs their name to pimp their website? Or what, you want my name on here so you can track me down? Sorry Mikey. "Honestly, I'm concerned. Did you lose a debate in high school due to too much ad hom? Is there some episode in your past that makes this a particularly tender subject for you?" Not a tender subject or touch at all Mikey. I just believe that if someone is going to come here and wag a finger at the rest uf us about how we do things...shouldn't turn around and do the things he says are bad behavior on our part. (i.e. going off topic and name calling) Practice What you preach Mikey...it's just that simple. "I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Sorry to see all that from you.

You don't sign your name to your rants.  And you give unorthodox responses to people who, unlike you, don't mind standing behind what we write.  Yeah, right.  I think you ought to sign your name to your posts because I'm looking to "track you down."  You need to bring more to the table, Tex.

And no, obviously, I didn't "come here to wag a finger."  In the years I've participated here, I've seen enough here to know that while most conservatives take the relative high road in political discourse, some will refuse to go that extra mile.  

Perhaps it shouldn't, but it amazes me that there are folks such as yourself, who think there's a get-out-of-decorum-free card involved in discussing the issues of the day--as long as you do so from a supposed conservative perspective.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah...

Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah...

MikeBratton:  Well, you

MikeBratton:

 Well, you obviously don't.

Yeah, there's three.

If that's all you have, excuse yourself from the discussion.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

No, you quit trolling! 

No, you quit trolling!  That comment that you initially started was a way to stir the wasp's nest and nothing more.

Well, that was pithy, dude!

Let's see... I started participating here over three years ago, there's not a regular participant here who wouldn't vouch for my bona fides, and I'm supposed to be the one who's "trolling"?

No, not even close.  But thanks for playing.

For the record, however, the aforementioned post filled with f-bombs actually had more substance than your three little posts combined.  That post is full of garbage, yes, but at least the author expended some energy to write it, "wah wahs" notwithstanding.

--Mike  

www.thebrattonreport...

Where I Come From

Where i come from you don't put up with bullies and you call a sob a sob and take appropriate action if you can. Unfortunately the appropriate action rightfull men used to take has been penalized by the justice system to the point that wrongdoers, a-holes, bullies, and criminals are protected while good men are penalized and punished. So, you wind up with a lot of name calling and trash talking, especially on internet sites where you can remain anonymous. ( grins, i get a kick outta the name calling and trash talking up to a point, and you should be able to call a sob a sob, but it serves little purpose on a site like this, and you wind up looking childish and stoopid.) Fortunately around these parts where i live, you start name calling and trash talking, somebody's gonna get an arse whuppin, screwed up justice system are not.

(GRINS)   kilrod 

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

There is a fair amount of namecalling on NB

and pile ons, however I have been on both DU and KOS and NB is light years ahead of them. Some right wing sites are just as bad as them though, like redstate.com

He had my vote

I think in the admin guys

I think in the admin guys here do a good job of striking a balance.  They don't insist on sort of verbal Marquis of Queensbury rules, and they allow some venting, but generally rein in commenters when they get too foul.

 

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Thing is, Kos is the admin,

Thing is, Kos is the admin, who seems to post under a different set of guidelines he wants his contributors to post by.  That's all well and good, it's his site, but if he's dropping F-bombs like they're going out of style, then he's making everyone else look bad over there.

Mike the Kosbots are here

pretty much every day, we call them trolls, they're usually making absurd assertions and making fools of themselves and showing how vapid their arguments are. 

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts 

  The thing is Mike, thats

The thing is Mike, thats a recced diary, put up on Kos' front page, which means it's representative of the site as a whole, not because of a few loose cannons in the comment's section.

Do you see similiar vitriol posted by the masthead and contributors of this site ?

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

dKos diary

So, therefore this recced diary at dKos would likewise be "representative of the site as a whole"?

Jer

Much obliged, Jer.

During this Memorial Day weekend, I particularly appreciated the link to that "High Flight" video.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Mike...High Flight

I remember from at least the early 1960's "High Flight" would be shown periodically on television with a voice-over of Maghee's poem while an F-104A Starfighter "danced the sunlit skies on silver-laughtered wings".  Majestic...dazzling...poignant.  No matter how many times I watched, it never failed to entrance and enthrall.

Jer

Well good on them Jer.

Well good on them Jer, that was a very touching tribute. However it's the exception, not the norm.

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Alinsky's Rules For Radicals

Whether they realize it or not, Kosacks are engaging in ridicule because they simply do not have the knowledge or wisdom to properly and legitimately argue their positions. Indeed, many of them probably do not know that ridicule is part of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. They are simply following others' leads in engaging in it.

As to encouraging good, intelligent, robust debate, we all need better education rather than indoctrination. If today's teens and young adults have, for example, been taught that free market capitalism is somehow inherently evil rather than a neutral economic system or if they have not been taught that truly free speech means defending the rights of someone to say what they believe regardless of whether or not you agree with that point of view, well, then you can see why so many engage in such childishness. I have seen a quote attributed to Noam Chomsky the gist of which is that you do not truly have freedom of speech if you are not willing to allow others to disagree with your points of view.

--

We already have term limits. They are called elections. We can & should vote out those who do not represent & serve us! - Me

 

Kos has basically lost it's

Kos has basically lost it's significance since the Democrats now control three branches of government.  Kos basically become popular with the left when the left accused Bush and Cheney of stealing the election in 2000.

Show me the money

"They'd find a lot of the same vitriol--just aimed at different targets. Not as much of it, mind you, but it's still there."

Do you have any examples of this? You know, actual quotes that is as vitriolic as the one Tim has quoted here? You could even provide a few links to the posts and comments you find objectionable. That would be very helpful, if you're really serious about helping NB's weed out those people you feel are making objectionable comments.

"How do we encourage that, and discourage the childishness?"

Well, NB's could become a highly regulated, overly monitored site that bans people who post things others find objectionable, like DK does every day, but that would defeat the purpose of allowing public comments, would it not? I think it's best that NB stay the way it is and let the other members respond accordingly to the posts they feel are objectionable. You'll never rid the world of "childish" people, so the best response is to act in an adult manner and resist the childish urge to force people to leave or delete their comments simply because you, or I, don't like what they have to say.

NB's does a good job of policing this site so I don't know what else you would offer to make this site more appealing to your sensibilities.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Since you missed one choice example, it's just a scroll-up away.

Is it a good idea to wish for KO's death?

I'm guessing you also missed something else--the point.  The idea is not to be punitive, but to get people to take the high road because it's the right thing to do. 

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

Not Rare

In case one believes that this kind of radicalism is rare...

Not rare at all. I've been covering that type of insanity on a regular basis for almost 5 years at the DUmmie FUnnies.

And doing a great job

At it to PJ, every time I need a laugh, I know where to go.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I try to stay well away from Kos and DU

Every time I venture into either of those sites, I have an urge to pressure wash the inner workings of my computer after I have left.

-Dave

along with bleaching your

along with bleaching your eyeballs no doubt....

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Daily Kos....No class, all

Daily Kos....No class, all A$$

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

The F-Bomb

The inability of an enlightened leftist intellectual to articulate a reasonable arguement against someone on the right such as Dick Cheney, leads to the inevitable use of the F-Bomb to fill space!

If you remove all the profanity you have nothing but Mumbo-Jumbo! Its akin to the TelePrez with his Ums and Ahs! It just illustrates the mindless positions of those on the left! Their only way to defend their empty ideas is to denegrate their opposition and elevate themselves.

The difference between these leftist loons and an Shark is that you can't get your arm around a Shark!

I firmly believe that those

I firmly believe that those that rant with swearing and name calling would actually get pleasure from torturing someone. Since they cannot physically torture they accomplish it with their mouth.

"DumbAssity of Dope"

My observation

My observation has always been that anyone who uses such language is showing a lack of extended vocabulary and therefore should be looked upon with a feeling of sadness and pity.

As juveniles, they all

As juveniles, they all think Dad is a "FA" when he catches them trying to sneak away with the car so they can go smoke Dope with their wastoid friends. 

Usually when the grow up they realize  wisdom dad had when they are forced to take the keys from their wastoid kids.

Cheney is no different.  he is just calling hte juvenile minded on their hyper-emotionalism and showing them the logic they should be using as adults.  They will hate him until they grow up.

Oops!

*edited* I moved the comment where it should have gone. See above reply.  

Lack of Intelligence

The display of ignorant and uninformed idiocy at that toxic pool of psychatric disorders ultimately lead to a lack of intelligence. These are the kids that sat in the back of the class and chattered while the high school math teacher lectured the three or four students in the front of the class about percentages and financial forumlas. 

You can guess which ones now either run their own business or kept their jobs during this recession, and the ones who work at McDonalds or Wal-Mart with 3 kids living in an apartment.

It's about making the right choices in life.

Those flunkies now regularly partake in the abomination known as the Daily Kos.

2010: A GOP Hill

These of the same

These of the same totalitarian stateists who wet-dream about world class torturers who all share their evil left ideologies.

(I'm not talking about everyday decent Democrats, who are just a tad deluded politically.)

I bet XneeOCon drools his bile whilst wearing his Che T-Shirt and Mao cap.

They love these guys right? World-class psycho nutjobs. These torturers and killers are heroes to the left. Well you can't make a socialist omelet without murdering 100 million people or so!

Ernie Guevera loved to hear the screams of his victims, brutalized for no reason other that to satisfy an actual real psychopath's blood lust. And they walk around with his noxious face on their chest. No shame.

So I don't think we need any lectures about human rights from crazed leftists who want to literally murder those who don't share their depraved pathology -- especially conservatives and/or republicans.

“I'm with you on a free press. It's the newspapers I can't stand.” Tom Stoppard, Night and Day, 1978

Did she do this in the classroom?

<blockquote>"Makettle" teaches at a California community college, where she bitterly battled students who supported enhanced interrogation:

<blockquote>I discussed how the Germans agreed with the Halocaust
[sic] because they were just Jews, and how white southerners agreed
with lynchings because they were just "niggers." I congratulated those
who embraced torture for finally finding a group they could fit in with.</blockquote></blockquote>

If she has done so, I hope the students in question have gone to the dean and demanded disciplinary sanctions against her -- after all, I cannot imagine that this is a legimate part of her classes curriculum.  Moreover, I hope they have retained counsel in preparation for a civil suit for defamation -- they have her admission of guilt right there.

 

And for the record -- if I am wrong for supporting enhanced interrogation, at least I am not on the same side as the terrorists, unlike "Makettle" and her ilk.

Blogging at rhymeswithright.mu.nu

Whoa.   So, in order for

Whoa.   So, in order for "Makettle's" argument to be valid, she has to believe that blacks and jews are no different from blood-thirsty, murdering, head chopping, terrorists.  Ma's Kettle of hate is is truly overflowing.

I believe Ma's words are much more applicable to the following justification...   "It's just a non-viable tissue mass".... "It's just a choice"

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Why are liberals so vulgar and hateful?

Can you imagine the reaction if a conservative blogger would launch this type of hateful emotional attack against Obama?

I have never seen this kind of unabashed hatred and vulgarity on any of the conservative websites that I frequent. The Daily Kos is one of the top liberal web-sites. Why do liberals get a pass for such bad behavior?

Why is it acceptable amongst liberals to display hate and intolerance against those who they disagree with? How can liberals also make accusations of intolerance and bigotry about anyone who disagrees with them.

The only answer that I can think of, is that liberalism is based on emotion, rather reason.

Have we lost all standards or is there a double standard? Why?

Why Liberals Can't Debate Rationally

Is hate and intolerance on the part of liberal activists justifiable?

Another Example of Deranged Public Behavior by Liberal Activists

Reverend Joseph Lowery Gives Racist Speech at Obama's Inauguration

Palestinians Spread Hate in Ft. Lauderdale Florida

Time To Spread Some Hate?

Proposition 8 passes, Homosexuals Raise a Ruckus

Liberal Bullying Silences the Majority

More Cheneys Needed

Kos.com is like a fever swamp that breeds a lot of bad things but fortunately they mostly stay there. This rage against Vice President Cheney also illustrates the extent to which Cheney has hit the mark on the Bamster. He has the Bamster spooked and chasing his shadow. Here's a better class of comment from Redstate on this phenom: In Their Kitchen: http://www.redstate.com

It's a golf analogy. This also reminds me of Palin and the Bamster, when Dennis Miller pointed out that Palin 'was deep inside his coconut' during the campaign. We need more Cheneys.

It's not just bloggers.

It's not just bloggers. It's any liberal "elite" who gets smacked down by common sense logic that all of us "little people" exhibit each and every day. They're so busy building their glass houses that when they encounter reasonable logic or tough questions, they have nowhere to hide. So, they revert to smears, profanity, and anger. It's why no one wants to listen to them on talk radio -- their vast, empty, and shallow "elitism" doesn't resonate with normal folks.

___________________________________ 

The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech

Did "Makettle" the California community college professor

...just equate Jews and Blacks to murderous terrorists?

Also, Obama, MSNBC's Keith Obamamann and a host of other pundits are members of DailyKos and have blog postings on that site, so you know they are actually trying to reach these people.

Apparently you can now associate yourself with societies worst people and no longer pay any price for it.

Oxy,  you beat me by 6

Oxy,  you beat me by 6 minutes (see above).   Sorry 'bout dat. 

It's utterly amazing how the left always tries to equate the killing of innocent people with the punishment of the guilty.    Except of course, for the killing of the most innocent of all... the unborn. 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Tim Graham's Pulitzer is on its way

That's some hard-hitting journalism there, Tim--what a great way to expose the liberal bias in the media (as per NB's mission statement). By the way, when did Daily Kos start counting as the media? Since when did some random Kossack cursing represent "liberal bias"? 

But whatever answers you may have, I want to say bravo for standing up for Dick Cheney by pointing out that some people have used harsh language when talking about him. We could all take a lesson in civil discourse from Cheney, who only dropped the f-bomb once--on the Senate floor, when he told Sen. Leahy "F*ck yourself"; clearly, this Kossack went over the one "f*ck" limit that Cheney set. Good job, Tim--your Pulitzer is on the way.

You win the Putz Licker

You win the Putz Licker Prize.

It's an oddly moving cermony which involves the recipient bending under himself to insert his head in an anotomically difficult to reach area.

As to Leahy, it can't be the first time somebody has told that traitorous creep to go eff himself.

Of course, Leahy can't even perform that rudimentary action. He can leak highly classified information though. That's no problem.

“I'm with you on a free press. It's the newspapers I can't stand.” Tom Stoppard, Night and Day, 1978

Liberal tolerance on

Liberal tolerance on parade.

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

your yiddish is confused, Jack

Jack, "putz" is Yiddish for penis, but what you've described ( the recipient bending under himself to insert his head in an anotomically difficult to reach area ) doesn't seem to involve licking putz at all--I think you might need to rename that prize.

And so strange of you to talk about leaking information when we're talking about Leahy and Cheney, since Cheney was implicated in outing Valerie Plame. Seriously, the psychological term you're looking for is "projection": when you blame the other guy for things that you're guilty of (telling people to f*ck off, leaking classified information).

nn ~ the KOS is a legitimate HATE site and NB is correctly

pointing that out.  I will not go there as I have in the past just to see that we have some of our country's most certifiably insane having access to computers.

To point out Dick Cheney as some diversion to what goes on at the KOS on a daily basis is pretty transparent and telling on your part.

Valerie Plame???  LOL!!! What the ooops.  I guess so called spies should swear off nepotism & politics & just do their job, huh? They got what they deserved and everyone including most democrats know that.

Try again nn and this time you will be graded.   

 

 

 

lol Nickey

since Cheney was implicated in outing Valerie Plame.

and falsely so as you well know, the witchhunt went nowhere since we know just exactly which Clinton appointee outed Val!  The psychological term here is called denial

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts 

So you're a dick. Sorry. My

So you're a dick. Sorry. My mistake.  But you're still not my Yiddisher momma.

Oh -- and it was Colin Powell's advissor Dick Armitage who confessed to Powell that he leaked the name of the CIA desk jockey. (I presume she's also one of those CIA liars according to Pelosi.)

So you are half right in there being a Dick involved.

You remember Powell. He's the former Republican who voted for Obama; who left Scooter Libby hanging for two years though he knew it was Armitage who leaked. What a mensch.

The same Powell that Democrats via Media shills are advising Republicans to follow. Over a cliff no doubt.

“I'm with you on a free press. It's the newspapers I can't stand.” Tom Stoppard, Night and Day, 1978

nn, LOL-Jack doesn't even live here...

...I mean, he resides clear on the other side of the planet, and yet he has a far better grip on what is really going on in this country than you do.

And best of all, he just mopped the hallways of NB with your behind.  :-)

-Dave

cheers RD! Thanks for the

cheers RD! Thanks for the shout-out!

“I'm with you on a free press. It's the newspapers I can't stand.” Tom Stoppard, Night and Day, 1978

nicholas, if you're going

nicholas, if you're going to continue to spread propaganda you must have at least a couple of facts.  Richard Armitage not VP Cheney was alleged to have 'outed' Plame.

Although I don't think there was any harm in outting an analyst.  This has been a whitewash from the git.  Armitage is a veteran and a patriot.  Plame is a nothing married to someone even less of a nothing. From all indications, libs must always have a 'cause'. For for the last 135 years or so, democrats seem to always pick the wrong side for their 'causes'.  Like siding with terrorist that would like nothing more then to kill more Americans. Things like that Oh, and that slavery thing. 

→ nickleby

Prove to me your translation of "putz" is correct other than having undergone a vulgar derivation.

To the same extent "johnson" means what you've stated, yes, but you're reaching into street slang to come up with that translation.

Not surprised.

 

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Kos Must Be Proud Of You

Is this how you earned your autographed knee pads from him?

Coming here and pretending like you're a Conservative? 

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

  Since Keith Olbermann

Since Keith Olbermann posts there considerably and is a valued member of it's site and alot of the media and members of Congress get their marching orders there, I guess we can call them members of the media.

But my hats off to the guy, they must have attained an element of class as of late, because he didn't openly call for Cheney's death. Of course I'm sure that's down in the comment's section, which I didn't read.

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Yet these peaceful loving

Yet these peaceful loving creatures are never mentioned on the talking head shows now are they?

Olbie and his FU comment to Rush the other night fits right in here.

...and to think on Memorial Day Week-end, we have these ungrateful, spoiled whining brats that have their right to spew their filthy bull all over the place because of the very people who they rail against, along with those that have shed their blood for them to do so.

It makes me ill.

Btw....that so-called Professor is another perfect example of what is wrong with our country/colleges.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

...and to think on

...and to think on Memorial Day Week-end, we have these ungrateful,
spoiled whining brats that have their right to spew their filthy bull
all over the place because of the very people who they rail against,
along with those that have shed their blood for them to do so
.

No, Cheney had a deferment, remember?  Or did I miss someone spewing filthy bull against actual soldiers?

As for the conservative meme that liberalism styles itself as dedicated to "peace and love"...well, I never quite got that.  Is that just like a remnant from 60s hippiedom and its connection to the New Left?  As far as I'm concerned, modern liberalism is about advancing inherently superior social, foreign, and economimc policy; not a political performance of a Buffalo Springfield song.  

As far as I'm concerned,

As far as I'm concerned, modern liberalism is about advancing inherently superior social, foreign, and economimc policy

 

Yea, worked out great so far for Europe hasn't it.

I thought modern liberalism died when the Berlin wall came tumbling down. Unfortunatley, I was wrong.

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Modern liberalism, in my

Modern liberalism, in my estimation, is not on par with Stalinism or Maoism.

My personal version of it involves hardcore civil libertarianism, moderate economic regulation, and a scaled-back military. I'm sure many others have different takes on it.  But as I said, I do not envision it as some Woodstock throwback.

JasonC

"...and a scaled-back military."

Clinton's scaling back of our military in the '90's (and general disinterest in doing anything seriously military-wise, as chaos was brewing around the world) really did wonders for us in our war on terrorism in the '00's.

LIBERAL OUTRAGE DURING THE BUSH YEARS:

"That filthy Rumfeld sent those soldiers out to die with poorly armored vehicles!!"

"Our military is stretched too thin for all of the battlefields..."

"If we're going to invade/overthrow Iraq, why not North Korea? Why not Iran??? Why not Somalia????? Why not, why not, why not ????"

Yeah, totally what the shining-beacon of democracy on this planet needs... a thinning out of our military. 

"... moderate economic regulation"

I take it then, Obama is scaring the #$%& out of you.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

JasonC~your personal version

Oh, sure, that sounds much better. ((^_^))

[Since it's sometimes hard to interpret intent on here, I meant that in the nicest sarcastic way possible...]

GG, i'm sure Obama

will always consider "What Would Jason Do?" before implimenting policy --- we can sleep secure

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts 

Botg~

Hey, and if Obama bought one of the "WWJD" bracelets, the "J" would still work for Jason!

[Sorry, Jason -- botg always makes me laugh, so just having a good time -- not intending it mean-like. I also take Jesus seriously, but He knows my sense of humor  ;)]

just what i was thinking of

;)

The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts 

  The problem is, your

The problem is, your version of it doesn't chide with the far-leftists who have hi-jacked your party, except the weak military part that is.

Maybe it's time you re-evaluated your allegiances.

True modern liberalism is not modern. It's a failed ideaology that should have died out last century. It has been responsible for destroying the livelihood  and causeing the death's of hundred's of millions of people, wherever it has been practiced.

And I'm not even gonna include the 43 million who have been aborted. Oh well, I just did.


Unfortunatley, American liberal's believe they'll get it right this time.

Liberalism is a plague that makes Yersinia Pestis look like the common cold.

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Whatever it is that you're

Whatever it is that you're saying killed hundreds of millions has nothing to do with what Democrats are for.

Ya know Blazer,

Alot of what you say makes sense and if there  were not so many morality police in conservaties, they would get more votes and win.

IMO that is what brings down Republicans. Many people relate the Republicans to people like Pat Robertson. They are associated with

  • what you watch on tv
  • what you can wear
  • you are are a slut if you have premaritial sex
  • porn is filth
  • gay is just like pediphilia
  • No assisted suicide

The majority of American do not like to be told what to do and have a pre conceived notion that it is conservatives telling them what to do and not liberals

and If the way for them to win imo is not to move more to the center, but present itself as the true party of freedom and focus on things like national securty, fiscal disipline and party of personal responsiblity.

I don't know if you consider this sleazy or not, but I say sleep with the enemy and help limit censorship on tv and let  people watch what they want and have better v chips, I truly believe it might bring the msm to the conservative side.

If you have the msm on your side, the liberals won't have the weapon of  accusing the gop of being the morality police any longer, and they will  expose that it is not conservatives are the morality police it is liberals.

He had my vote

It's Not On Par With Them

It's surpassed them both in it's desires for subservience and its willingness to silence any dissent. 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Jason... What part of

Jason...

What part of this don't you understand....

...and to think on Memorial Day Week-end, we have these ungrateful, spoiled whining brats that have their right to spew their filthy bull all over the place because of the very people who they rail against, along with those that have shed their blood for them to do so.

Do you not think VP Cheney was very instrumental in saving thousands of lives here within this country along with others who were not on the battlefield, past and present...yet all you and your ilk scream bloody murder while pitching  a fit...like three year olds who didn't get their way.

Pathetic is too kind a word for all of you. 

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Do you not think VP Cheney

Do you not think VP Cheney was very instrumental in saving thousands of
lives here within this country along with others who were not on the
battlefield, past and present...

I certainly don't think that is a foregone conclusion, and no, for the most part I think Dick Cheney was a detrimental force in the past 8 years.  I do not feel safer thanks to the invasion of Iraq or Draconian approaches to pseudo-torture.  Sorry. 

In fact, with a better VP, I think Bush would have been a much better president (not that I could have admitted that if it were the case - the Liberal Club would surely have revoked my membership).

JasonC

I was ready to leave... got laundry here to take out, errands, but this is absolutely mind-numbing:

"I do not feel safer thanks to the invasion of Iraq or Draconian approaches to pseudo-torture.  Sorry."

You do not feel safer? You really feel equally as unsafe -- or LESS safe -- now than, say, in late 2001, 2002 ??? Seriously, and I mean seriously, think for a while, then answer the question.

If you come back with the same answer, point to actual things/events over the mid-latter part of this decade (last 5 years or so) that have you feeling less safe or just as nervous about terrorism from Islamic Extremists.

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

pseudo-torture   So

pseudo-torture

 

So you agree it was simulated torture ? Either way, excuse me if I don't shed one tear or lose any sleep about three murderers of woman and children getting a rough sponge bath.

I've had worse experiences playing Marco Polo and chicken at my local swimming pool

You wanna see real torture, drop em' off at my house.

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Blazer...you too?

"I've had worse experiences playing Marco Polo and chicken at my local swimming pool"

I sometimes got water up my nose while swimming when I was a kid, too.  It hurt like hell, but I lived.

Yea, and bad stomache

Yea, and bad stomache cramps too, after I got in the pool too soon after I ate.

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Kat~

Having older, mischievous brothers dunk me constantly was no picnic either, but I'd not call it torture. ^_^ Sidenote: Truthmonger's "Woodshed" question/discussion on which is worse (giving birth or waterboarding) is an interesting one -- for those who want to check it out.

GG...

And I bet you didn't even have a physician on hand while your brothers were dunking you, either.  ;-)

Kat~

Nope, not a physician in sight.*_*

Your just precious

You're just precious Jason...

Riddle me this...why do you think Cheney is out there defending what they did to save lives...for the heck of it, like he has nothing better to do with his time after this wonderful, wonderful Prez released the memos he did, partially redacted, and not release the ones Cheney has been asking to be released to prove that water-boarding that harsh technique saved thousands if not more lives in this country...

What part of any of this goes right over your head...oh wait a minute...

ALL of IT!

For all you know Jason one of those lives that may have been saved might have been your very own, or some of those you love.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I'm sorry for disagreeing

I'm sorry for disagreeing with you bigtimer.

Jason... What's new,

Jason...

What's new, you usually, if not always do.

You still ignored the points I made above.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Which points?  I fully

Which points?  I fully understand the differentiation you made between soldiers and Cheney.

JasonC You're An Idiot

And I say that as a soldier in the U.S. Army protecting your right to pontificate and sound like an obtuse jackass without fear of serious repercussions to your health. 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Thank you for your

Thank you for your service.

So Tell Me

"As far as I'm concerned, modern liberalism is about advancing inherently superior social, foreign, and economimc policy;"

 

So tell me JasonC...how well did that work out for Carter and Clinton?

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Better for the latter than

Better for the latter than for the former?

Really?

For whom?

Who really benefitted from it?

Osama, The Taliban North Korea, China, Bannana Republic dictators in South and Central America, Communist Vietnam.

It worked out REAL well for Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat. 

Yeah our bend and reach diplomacy and domestic and foreign policy of the Clinton era worked out well for them.

But not so much for the U.S. and the families of those killed in Khobar Towers...the U.S.S. Cole...Elian Gonzales...the 200+ people killed in the Embassy Bombings in AFrica...and the families and victims of 9/11.

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Defining Torture

This exchange between AG Holder and Reps Lungren and Gohmert demonstrates that there are Bamster's-ego sized holes in the theory of waterboarding-as-torture:

Proving it's Not Torture While Insisting It Is: http://corner.nationalreview.com

Holder fell into it like a trap door gimmick. Hint, it's to do with intent of the operator.

slick...glad you have this

slick...glad you have this link here, I will save this, I heard about this on the WSJ show on Fox late yesterday....(Gohmert is one of my favorite congress-critters.)

Of course as usual for the most part the msm is ignoring this too.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

→ Moved

Moved

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Cool Arrow~

Can't get that link. Is it about how we'll all (except Obama) be driving wonderful clown cars?

I love Newsbusters, it's one

I love Newsbusters, it's one of my top bookmarks. But please, quit giving these guys print. I'm sure this tool is running around to all his little friends bragging he made it to the big time by having his post on one of the most read blogs on the 'Net.

"F*** your straw men!

"F*** your straw men! " 

I guess it was "straw men" who hijacked those airliners and killed all of those people...

"F*** your presumption that we are a bunch of cowering idiots looking for daddy to protect us from the big bad terrorists."

Wow. He must be a real rough and tough liberal if he rejects protection from the US government and military and proposes to personally defend himself and us against terrorists. I think I'll pass on his offer and stay with the military protection. However, something tells me he looks to "daddy" government for health care and other personal wants.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Yep Chris...one of those

Yep Chris...one of those who grabs for the big prize in the Cracker Jack Box that somebody was offering to share with him in the first place.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Hi bt, Yeah, a

Hi bt, Yeah, a government-provided box of Cracker Jacks. I think you and I would agree that we'd be a lot more  relieved to know it was Cheney and our military showing up to save us from a terrorist attack than the crew from Kos. What are they going to do, drop F bombs on the terrorists?

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Chris... Yeah, that and

Chris...

Yeah, that and as Zell Miller said at that republican convention...Spit-Balls!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

  Amen, well said. In my

Amen, well said Chris. In my world these backasswards goatherders better pray to Allah, that I never get a chance to show em' what torture really is. Can't tell you for certain what my methods of interrogation would be, but I can say for certain that it will alway's conclude in the introduction of .40 cal jacketed hollow point slugs soaked in bacon grease.

 

 

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

- Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

" The Cake is a lie."   

Thanks

I had the .40 cal in mind but I forgot the bacon grease.  I'll make sure the wife saves some.

how do you know when a liberal has lost the argument?

any logic and reasoning that they initially had is replaced by f-bombs and personal attacks.  it's as if a warning is going off inside their tiny heads screaming, "change the subject!  change the subject!"

 

swing hard in case you hit it.

I don't hear that many f bombs on NB

...but personal attacks and changing the subject happens all the time on NB, conservatives included.

He had my vote

It's F bombs Or Nothing

I check on my crazies at Daily Kos and the Huffington Post every day. They never disappoint. If it weren't for mindless name calling, they'd have nothing to post. This latest F bomb example shows that Cheney drew blood. He got a veritable standing O from the majority of people in America. And there's more to come. Every time he speaks there will be major news coverage, and his book will be a huge bestseller. Then we'll hear liberal heads exploding.

 

Just out of curiousity I

Just out of curiousity I went over to the kos to read some of their sniveling drivel. That is the first time I have been on that site and I must say that I feel the need to take a long hot shower now. What a bunch of misguided mama's boys they have over there. Those putrid lumps of flesh haven't got the guts to ever say anything to a real person least they get their faces punched in. BDS is in full swing at that place. It just goes to show you what can happen to people when they are raised by two mommies or daddies.

The only thing that you can say about Cheney is he is effective and that is what infuriates the left so much that they are foaming at the mouth. They only wish they had someone that could talk as straight forward as he does. Keep it up Mr. Cheney and maybe the left will get so worked up that they will eventually bite their own tongues off and choke on them. 

Kos Is Mild

If you needed a shower after visiting Kos...you'll need a military grade decon team after visiting DemocraticUnderground. 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

What a child.

 Why this man has thousands of people follow him everyday
will always boggle my mind. Just a bunch of kids running around in my
opinion. I wonder if the Democrat politicians will read this, after all
they participate in their conventions, don’t they every year? What kind
of politician would want to be associated with this kind of garbage? What
kind of certain TV commentary news hosts on an extremely low rated news network
would associate themselves with this kind of garbage?

 

 

Check out this image of the new kos kids (its a spoof): The Kos Kids.

 

P.S.  I would like to add this, is that if you check the comments section of NewsBusters and DailyKos, you will feel like they are two ends of the internet.   All the bigotry and inflammatory language used on DailyKos is absolteuly absurd.  I rarely, if ever, see such inflammatory on NewsBusters.  I think the staff of NB defintely deserves some recognition for the fact that they built a truly astonishing community here with mild-mannered indivduals.  It's something of an art to get such a community together, and on that, I commend you on your ability to do so.  Thank you NewsBusters.

Once Again Mikey

"Familiar with the story about getting the plank out of your own eye before you get anything out of anyone else's eye?"

 

Practice what you preach.

 

"I May Be Changed By War, But I Will Not Be Defeated By It" - Audie Murphy

Then help me out here, Tex.

"Tim, I agree that those Kos commentaries are sick.  However, I'd hate for Kos, or a similar site, to send someone to sail through what gets posted here.  They'd find a lot of the same vitriol--just aimed at different targets. Not as much of it, mind you, but it's still there.  We should have a better method of commentary here, all around. How do we encourage that, and discourage the childishness?"

Where's the objectionable content in that?  Where am I not practicing what I'm preaching?

And let's have lots and lots of details.  

First off, you can start with responding to an example I posted, one that people are avoiding in droves.  We had a recent Olbermann thread where someone thought it would be great to see Keith killed. Tell us all what's wrong with my suggestion, and what's right with advocating murder.

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

daily kos f-bom marathon

And you didn't think that the people at daily kos were eriudite, well spoken people.  Shame on you....

Saying The Word "F**k" Makes You A Radical?

First of all, I've never even frequented the Daily Kos (The Huffington Post is radical enough for me, thank you very much), but my question is: how does saying or writing the word "f**k" make you a radical? Do you ever get tired using ridiculous euphemisms like, ugh, "F-word" or "f-bomb" (I just crack up every time I hear some talking head on the news using the term "f-word" or "f-bomb" because it makes them sound absolutely childish.)

The word is "f**k." Is it that such a dirty word that it elicits this kind of reaction? It's sort of like that gag on South Park where Mr. Garrison teaches the fourth-grade teacher how to confront a verbal attack from students like Cartman. When Cartman exclaims "Well, you can suck my balls", the teacher has to come back at him with an equally,if not more, offensive remark such as "well then, present them." That's really the only way you can react to the Kossacks on The Daily Kos. When they make a verbal attack like that, you have to be just as offensive, if not more so, in order to fight back. So the next time they go off the reservation like this incident, take a page out of Dick Cheney's book and tell them "to go f**k themselves." That will certainly end their argument.