On Monday, The Washington Post played President Obama’s address at Notre Dame as if Obama were the essence of centrism and civil dialogue, the man calling for "open minds" – and never mind his actual abortion record. But stranger still was the story on the commencement speech denouncing protesters at another commencement. On the front page, the Post highlighted "Trinity Washington head denounces protests."
On page A-5, across from the continuation of the Obama speech story came this headline: "Notre Dame Protesters Rebuked From Afar: In Graduation Talk, Trinity Washington President Decries 'Religious Vigilantism.' Patricia McGuire’s college may be small (she’s credited with doubling enrollment to 2,000), but it has several liberal Catholics among its alumni: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. In Tom Jackman's report, McGuire sounded like a liberal Democrat, denouncing the "snarl of hatred" coming from pro-lifers:
"The real scandal at Notre Dame today is not that the president of the United States is speaking at commencement," McGuire said. "The real scandal is the misappropriation of sacred teachings for political ends. The real scandal is the spectacle of ostensibly Catholic mobs camping out at Notre Dame for the specific purpose of disrupting the commencement address of the nation's first African American president. This ugly spectacle is an embarrassment to all Catholics. The face that Catholicism shows to our new president should be one marked with the sign of peace, not distorted in the snarl of hatred."
McGuire continued, "The religious vigilantism apparent in the Notre Dame controversy arises from organizations that have no official standing with the church, but who are successful in gaining media coverage as if they were speaking for Catholicism....They have established themselves as uber-guardians of a belief system we can hardly recognize. Theirs is a narrow faith devoted almost exclusively to one issue. They defend the rights of the unborn but have no charity toward the living. They mock social justice as a liberal mythology."
Isn't it ironic that the liberals of the Sixties took flagrant joy in protesting, but now that they're gray and in power, protesters are distasteful? McGuire also spoke for liberals by complaining that "a half-century of progress for Catholic higher education is at risk of slipping back into those insular, parochial pre-Vatican II days" when academic freedom was not valued within the Catholic Church.
Last year, when Pope Benedict came to Washington, McGuire penned a Post op-ed denouncing the "mindless dogmatism" of the orthodox, threatening to demonstrate a caricature of "mindless adherence to theocratic rulers." It sounded like it had a "snarl of hatred" all its own.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.




















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Show those fetuses just who
May 18, 2009 - 07:10 ET by nadadhimmiShow those fetuses just who is in charge here. What gives them the right to exist?? The presumptuous little b@stards. Protect human rights, kill the baby humans!!!!
Hate filled gays are OK?????
May 18, 2009 - 07:12 ET by DontFeedTheTrolls". . . distorted in the snarl of hatred.". . . .
They have established themselves as uber-guardians of a belief system
we can hardly recognize. Theirs is a narrow faith devoted almost
exclusively to one issue.
Wait a second, isn't she describing Perez Hilton and his hate filled belief in heterophobia?
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Hell, the true hatred comes
May 18, 2009 - 08:40 ET by BDHell, the true hatred comes from her side of the aisle. Otherwise how can you account for the Code Pinkers, Weathermen Underground, New Black Panther Party, PETA, etc. The rule of the day at their protests is violence or simulated violence in the form of throwing blood - real or simulated on people they dislike and attempting to silence their opposition.
Hell on our side of the aisle the most you see in form of hatered in a protest pales in comparison and consists of people either silently carrying photos of aborted babies or well bathed persons holding a tea party in a city square somewhere. Hardly hatred in any form.
Talk about your unintended irony...
May 18, 2009 - 07:13 ET by dervish"...organizations that have no official standing with the church, but who
are successful in gaining media coverage as if they were speaking for
Catholicism..."
Um... oh, never mind.
Satan twists the truth to mislead as many as possible
May 18, 2009 - 07:22 ET by c5thenNotice that the argument is that it's the protesters exercising their free speech that are the problem. It's never the folks that promote the killing of innocent babies. Notice that Catholics are called to embrace the ideas that are anathema to their core beliefs in an attempt to be "open minded". Notice that the person who defends the killing of the innocent at the whim of their protector is called "courageous" while those who protest that idea are called "hate filled".
Catholics are constantly told that they should be more "open minded". What about the pro-abortion folks embracing the idea that an embryo is indeed a person and that aborting that person is indeed murder. Will they open their minds to that? Since when is killing a child part of "social justice", whatever that is?
Hey, I got the wrong "CHANGE"!
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Well said, c5....
May 18, 2009 - 07:28 ET by motherbeltI said in the other thread, when liberals call for "open minds" or "bipartisanship" what they mean is "Agree with us!"
They are masters at turning attention to those who disagree rather than the view that is disagreed with. The aide who found the damning Democrat correspondence on an open computer ended up resigning for having read it. The protesters are close-minded haters. The problem with Her Speakerness is not that she lied, but that partisan Republicans are trying to make political points with the fact.
We are in Bizarro World.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
being open-minded
May 18, 2009 - 11:07 ET by RowaneBeing open minded is all well and good, just make sure what brains ya have don't fall out.
<sound of duct tape ripping off roll>
May 18, 2009 - 07:44 ET by motherbeltAs a life-long Catholic, it really pains me to say this, but "Catholic" colleges and universities are in the toilet.
At least the big ones. My daughter attended a small Catholic university where this liberal garbage had not taken hold, but the big well-known ones have only their names to identify them as Catholic. Notre Dame included. I sometimes think "Touchdown Jesus" is just "kitsch." And the Notre Dame our mother, pray for us! is less a tradition or prayer than a superstition for the football team.
The real scandal is the misappropriation of sacred teachings for
political ends. The real scandal is the spectacle of ostensibly
Catholic mobs camping out at Notre Dame for the specific purpose of
disrupting the commencement address of the nation's first African
American president. This ugly spectacle is an embarrassment to all
Catholics. The face that Catholicism shows to our new president should
be one marked with the sign of peace, not distorted in the snarl of
hatred."
Misappropriation ????? Protesting the first (half) African American President is a scandal ????? The sign of peace means accepting abortion????
Is this woman serious??????
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
I know
May 18, 2009 - 08:00 ET by danebramageUnfortunately, motherbelt, this is nothing new. "Catholic" schools have not been Catholic for at least 30 years and closer to 40. Vatican II ushered in an age of apostasy for the Church and the schools have been in the forefront of the revolution.
I'm glad your daughter escaped that trend (if she did--oftentimes schools that appear to be orthodox aren't, in the final analysis, very orthodox in fact). There are only a very small handful of so-called Catholic schools I would even consider sending my kids to...and basically no secular schools whatsoever.
It's a junkyard out there.
Catholic
June 26, 2009 - 17:08 ET by tshellI hear you motherbelt... we can't stand to think about our daughter attending Notre Dame...she loves it so much. We'd certainly let her go if it was the 60's or 70's even.... It's just a whole new world and 'word' over there now. It is quite sickening...in fact, thinking about the testiclelessness liberal agenda makes me certain I need to use a portable toilet sitting across the street to barf in.
Letter from a Birmingham Jail
May 18, 2009 - 08:15 ET by Retired Geek"Martin Luther King points to a people of Christian faith that demanded an end to infant killing.
In Rome in their declining years, it became law that upon the birth of your newborn child, if you didn't like the color of their eyes, the texture of their hair, the complexion of their skin, you could by law lay your child by the side of the road to die.
The law further stated, anyone touching your child to give aid would be put to death.
The newborn child was to be left to die!
The early church under the threat of death scooped those children up and raised them as their own.
Martin Luther King called not giving children "left by the side of the road" receiving no aid, evil!
Barack Obama calls it a good thing.
80% of Americans call partial birth abortion, evil, while Mr. and Mrs. Obama call it a good thing."
Rev. Dr. Clenard H. Childress, Jr.
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They mock social justice as
May 18, 2009 - 08:25 ET by Dan The Man 2They mock social justice as a liberal mythology
This is the real idea. I think that these "Catholics" like this or even protestants are apostate when they forget that the church is by God and for God. We have but one goal in life that is to spread the good news. Jesus was not about social justice, He is about the justice in Heaven.
He was not about earthly things but things in Heaven. So many passages are about the suffering on Earth and the justice in Heaven.
Life is Nothing To Be Embarrassed About
May 18, 2009 - 08:31 ET by The Smokin FrogAs I see it, the ones caricaturing positions are those in the left wing with Obama being a professional at it, especially on abortion. Obama is a professional at saying anything he needs to say at the moment, the Scripture calls this lying. Saying the truth of God's Word the Scripture calls 'believing', not saying or denying it it the Scripture calls 'unbelief'. Obama tells us all the while, 'words have meaning'. But since the people by and large think he is a truth-teller, then his words are interpreted to mean he is the generous and faithful one. At the same time, his record and his administration demonize pro-life people and institute the killing of children in mass quantity.
The 'real' embarrassment to Catholics and all Christians, is how little they know their faith and how little they would defend it. It is a new standard, that Obama is pushing and liberals everywhere agree with, 'believe what you want, just don't hold to it publicly, and certainly don't defend it'. This is the new American religion. It is man-made, and it has no power to forgive sins.
Christians are hardly devoted to one issue. But if Christ is 'Life' itself, we ought at the very least not to kill the children of God. This is beyond Obama and the left. They live in dressed up hate. Christians believe in supporting life. This is nothing to be embarrassed about.
The Smokin' Frog
The vitriol coming from the liberal side ...
May 18, 2009 - 08:35 ET by SentryDanThe vitriol coming from the liberal side on the abortion issue is something to behold. Of course, the liberals condemn anyone who is against what they believe. It is especially interesting that the liberals (especially the ones that claim to be Catholic) believe that the Church is archaic in their teachings on abortion and that the Church needs to get with the program and teach what the liberals believe, i.e. that abortion is ok.
There are 2 teaching that the Church has been and always be correct on, one is abortion and the other is marriage. Abortion is the murder of innocents. Marrigae is between a man and a woman. God made man and then He made woman from man to be a companion, help mate, and wife to man so that they could flourish and prosper. Nuff said.
Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.
For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.
Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine
Sounds to me
May 18, 2009 - 11:11 ET by RowaneSounds to me like they need to find a new church, if they can't follow the basic tennets of the church they attend.
intolerance
May 18, 2009 - 08:43 ET by HipnosisSo called 'progressives' are always preaching about tolerance, until they disagree with you. Then they they get angry. Or should I say, angrier than usual.
I stick my neck out for nobody.
Would someone please let
May 18, 2009 - 08:44 ET by rwesleyWould someone please let the media know that they need to correct themselves across the board? This was not a "graduation speech" or "commencement speech" as nearly all of them are portraying it.
This was Obama using a PR chance to bully his message to a captive audience and have the media following, in tow. How many other colleges just happened to have this particular subject of abortion as their topic for speakers? I've graduated from Kindergarten, High School, Marine Boot Camp, and College and never had this topic come up, even as a side note, in those events.
They're called bishops
May 18, 2009 - 08:50 ET by KC MulvilleOf course, the protesters are espousing the same point of view as the bishops, who issued a guideline (if not an absolute slam dunk ban) against honoring someone whose perspective directly contradicts the church.
I wouldn't have protested (and didn't, come to think of it). Frankly, I joined several protest marches in DC, years ago, and was so turned off by the farce of protesting that I vowed never again. So I'm in the same position as Timothy Dolan, the new archbishop of New York - I disapprove of Notre Dame's honorary degree, but that's all. I disapprove; I don't threaten to take any action, or stomp my feet, or siege the ND campus. I just disagree.
Imagine a World
May 18, 2009 - 08:51 ET by Retired GeekImagine a World, where an 'Individual' can own private property that will NOT be taken from them.
Imagine a World, where an 'Individual' can work to provide for their own family and NOT have the results of their hard work and 'Good' decisions, stolen from them and given to those who refuse to do the same.
Imagine a World, where Individuals are NOT 'Punished' for working hard and those who refuse to 'Work Hard' are rewarded.
Imagine a World, where everyone has equal 'Rights and Protections' under the U. S. Constitution and Bill of Rights - instead of 'Special Rights' and 'Protections' for some, but NOT others.
Imagine a World, where a man and a woman can join together as 'One' and fulfill the design of the Creator to procreate, without being attacked, vilified and declared abnormal.
Imagine a World, where children are taught in Schools skills that will help them 'Survive' in a hostile world, instead of learning how to place a 'Condom on a Zucchni'.
Imagine a World, where an Individual is 'Judged by their Character', instead of being heralded for their 'Lack of Character'.
Imagine a World, where defenseless little babies who have survived an abortion and are separated from their"mothers" and struggling to live, are given aid instead of being set aside to die of thirst or starvation in excruciating pain alone and crying in terror - because the most powerful man in the World - Barack Obama - believes that when a woman 'Contracts' for a dead baby - they deserve a dead baby.
"The real scandal is the
May 18, 2009 - 09:24 ET by Eugenia"The real scandal is the spectacle of ostensibly Catholic mobs camping
out at Notre Dame for the specific purpose of disrupting the
commencement address of the nation's first African American president.
This ugly spectacle is an embarrassment to all Catholics. The face that
Catholicism shows to our new president should be one marked with the
sign of peace, not distorted in the snarl of hatred."
To this betrayer of her faith, and thus our Lord:
1) The REAL SCANDAL is the indifference of Ms. McGuire towards the unborn;
2) Here it is again: You can't say anything against this president because he's African American. (Shhhh. Our black leader is speaking. Smile. Yes, Mr. President. Whatever you say sir. Oh, no, no, I don't disagree, you're our first black president, whatever you say. We're white and we voted for you! Woo-hoo! That shows we're so open-minded and tolerant, you know);
3) Was this moron asleep the last 8 years and not seeing all the hatred spewed at President Bush and all the haters that disrupted anything he did ANYWHERE?? Even at his home in Texas? Get out.
These jokers are ridiculous in their hypocrisy, stupidity and sycophancy.
Wake up Catholics !!
May 18, 2009 - 09:24 ET by Southern voterFor us that live in a Diocease where the Bishop throws the issue of aborton in with all other social issues as opposed to making the protection of the unborn the most important ...we need to each speak with our pocketbooks...I would rather send my offerings/money to the ProLife organizations in my area that help these young women who choose life carry their baby to term or set up opportunities for adoption ...as opposed to giving to these liberal agendas....there are already ProLife groups that do today what Obama proposed in his speech ...however they are very under funded ...depending on contributions to exist ....
It's not enough to say we are ProLife...what are we doing to help these women overcome the hurdles in order to choose life...how many of us work in our own locations with these groups to better understand what is needed ...
Where I live, a Catholic group from one of the churches in the area works with a Prolife organization to fund a program that provides monthly classes to young women and their partners to educate them on parenting,nutition, supportive life relationships,organization and time mgmt,cpr/first aid,breast feeding,labor and delivery....for each participant that completes the course they are given a new baby bed and mattress...this is a highly successful program ...
Remember...if aborton became ILLEGAL today ...there would have to be hundreds of organizations to help these young women keep their babies or place them for adoption...
In my opinion, this is the real debate.. the Catholic church should be in the forefront ...
Southern: Catholics aren't
May 18, 2009 - 09:43 ET by QueenMumSouthern: Catholics aren't the only ones who work to provide support services for women who are faced with unplanned pregnancies. The problem is not just with the churches. The problem is that the MsM is invested in supporting abortion. The worthwhile alternatives receive little if any attention.
Although I understand your point, there was plenty of support for unwed mothers and unplanned pregnancies before Roe v. Wade. And in fact, when abortion was not an acceptable alternative, the fear of an unintended pregnancy caused women to be more cautious about their own behavior.
GO CAVS!!!!!
Where's the equivalence
May 18, 2009 - 09:26 ET by slickwillie2001Note that these same liberals that tie themselves up in knots over a bit of water poured into the nose of a murdering terrorist have no problem with allowing an innocent child to be scalded with a saline solution and then sucked out of its mother's womb with a vacuum cleaner.
Where are those masters of moral equivalence on this? Why so quiet?
Isn't it ironic that the
May 18, 2009 - 09:36 ET by QueenMumIsn't it ironic that the liberals of the Sixties took flagrant joy in
protesting, but now that they're gray and in power, protesters are
distasteful?
Exactly, Tim. It's really quite amusing that the left doesn't seem to see the irony. I guess they hold the patent on peaceful (and not so peaceful) protest.
Here in small-town America a new Vietnam War Memorial was dedicated over the weekend. Thousands attended. And yet, the newspaper which serves both the local and nearest urban area chose to feature an article on the front page about a new surgical technique, complete with a color photo. The story about the memorial was relegated to the B Section. Yet the activities surrounding the tragedy at Kent State are always front page news, including interviews with a local attention-grabbing lib who's dedicated his life to making sure that people know he was there. Here's the article.
GO CAVS!!!!!
Every time I see this
May 18, 2009 - 09:55 ET by motherbeltEvery time I see this posting, I find something else idiotic that this woman says. Here's another:
organizations that have no official standing with the church, but who
are successful in gaining media coverage as if they were speaking for
Catholicism....They have established themselves as uber-guardians of a
belief system we can hardly recognize. Theirs is a narrow faith devoted
almost exclusively to one issue. They defend the rights of the unborn
but have no charity toward the living (emphasis mine)
The Catholic Church doesn't speak out about the sanctity of life?
She doesn't recognize the sanctity of life as a part of the belief system of Catholicism???
Good ever-loving grief!!!
They have no charity toward the living????
That is one of the standard canards of the pro-abortion crowd.
She has not an ounce of evidence, nor does she know of or care about the all organizations like Operation Birthright and Elizabeth Ministries that the Catholic Church runs to support women in crisis pregnancies and mothers of infants.
A lot of sound and fury....signifying nothing.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Running low on duct tape?
May 18, 2009 - 10:11 ET by KC MulvilleYeah, I know. I can't order the stuff fast enough.
Quick points, on abortion:
Hey, KC. Correct me if I'm
May 18, 2009 - 10:16 ET by QueenMumHey, KC. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Islam prohibit abortion?
GO CAVS!!!!!
Yes, as far as I know
May 18, 2009 - 10:28 ET by KC MulvilleThere was enough to cover in Catholicism, so I didn't have too much training in Islam!
Personally, I'm in favor of treating it strictly as a philosophical question.
"Personally, I'm in favor
May 18, 2009 - 11:11 ET by QueenMum"Personally, I'm in favor of treating it strictly as a philosophical question."
Exactly.
GO CAVS!!!!!
→ QM
May 18, 2009 - 13:22 ET by Cool ArrowCan he not wonder how does it differ from Dred Scott?
Both SCOTUS cases centered on the humanity of a class of people. Both decisions came down against said humanity.
"I was fighting a war in Iraq!" - Nancy Lugosi
Agreed
May 18, 2009 - 13:43 ET by KC MulvilleBut I can't launch on that whole issue now. Must ... get back ... to work ... ahhhhhh!
→ Too bad KC
May 18, 2009 - 13:57 ET by Cool ArrowI was at work yesterday wishing I could get more involved with the discussions. Today I'm off.
"I was fighting a war in Iraq!" - Nancy Lugosi
My other favorite idiocy is
May 18, 2009 - 11:23 ET by motherbeltMy other favorite idiocy is when they say: "can't we agree to limit abortions?"
Response: If there is nothing wrong about abortion, then why try to limit it?
Well, because it's a tragedy....why is it a tragedy? If it's not alive, why is it a tragedy?
It's the most difficult decision a woman has to make....again, if it's not a life, WHY?
If it's not a baby, and there's nothing wrong with it, and (gem of all liberal gems) it's LEGAL, then why do they care how many abortions are performed????
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Updated: I posted that at 11:45 and it is now 12:17 and Rush is right now making the same points I just made re: rarity of abortion.
GMTA, or Rush reads Newsbusters?????
...
May 18, 2009 - 11:51 ET by EugeniaMotherbelt, I just heard Rush say it, then read your post. Logical minds think alike. :)
One other thing, this business about abortion being a difficult, torturous decision for women that Obama perpetuated yesterday is for the most part a radical feminist-pushed scam. Most of the women getting abortions are college-aged or black. Many of them have multiple abortions. To them, abortion is -- whew! -- a way out and they don't think twice about it. So they don't think twice about their pre-abortion behavior either.
I think the difficulties come with mothers who want babies, but find themselves pregnant late in life or have deformed babies in the womb. Or those being pressured by boyfriends. I don't doubt for a moment they see their choices as difficult (although still wrong) but otherwise, for women, abortion is taking care of a problem.
→ Now that's funny!
May 18, 2009 - 14:02 ET by Cool ArrowAnd that's why Obama wants to push it into the philosophical realm.
Philosophically, there is no such thing as losing as long as the debate continues.
Philosophically, do facts even exist?
"I was fighting a war in Iraq!" - Nancy Lugosi
Here is a question ...
May 18, 2009 - 12:18 ET by SentryDanHere is a question for those who profess to be Christian: Do you believe that a baby is a gift from God?
If as a Christian, you believe this to be true, that a baby is a gift from God, then what right do you, as a Christian, have to destroy God's gift?
Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.
For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.
Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine
This is a civil rights issue
May 18, 2009 - 12:33 ET by libliebusterThe civil rights marcher in the 60's were mocked and attacked at first. Abortion has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with civil rights of a baby. Of course the liberal media denegrates and mocks the protestors. That's what liberals do. They are vicious bigots.
I live in South Bend and I drove by the Notre Dame campus. There were some that were arrested by choice but most of the protestors were civil and the signs they carried were mild compared to the signs I saw by the anti-Bush protestors when he came to town here.
What is this idiot...
May 18, 2009 - 13:10 ET by sam12663...talking about? Her comments are just ridiculous. "Catholic mobs"? "Religious vigilantism"? "Narrow faith"? "No charity toward the living"? The fact that this woman is in charge of Catholic school of higher learning is shameful. Her claim that we have set ourselves up as " uber-guardians of a belief system that we can hardly even recognize" shows just how phony this woman is. What has changed in reference to the life issue within the Church? The answer is nothing; what has changed is many 'Catholics' respect for doctrine. Also, why does she have to bring up the Presidents race? That has no bearing on this issue whatsoever; it is done strictly for effect.
President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!