Here's a celebrity fundraiser that didn't make headlines. Actress Cynthia Nixon, best known for her role as the red-headed Miranda on the smutty HBO series Sex and the City, made an odd fundraising pitch timed for Mother's Day. It was an e-mail for Abortion Incorporated: the Planned Parenthood Federation of America. She boldly claimed that motherhood and Planned Parenthood were an obvious match:
I am Cynthia Nixon. I am an actor, an activist, a mom, a daughter. But today, I am writing to you about motherhood, on behalf of Planned Parenthood and the many people they serve.
The truth is, in my book, there is no organization that supports motherhood more than Planned Parenthood..That's why I'm honoring the moms I know with a gift to Planned Parenthood today.
It's not easy to be a mother these days. Believe me, I know I'm lucky — I've had help and support — including the amazing, strong woman who blazed her own path to raise me as an independent, bold woman.
That's what Planned Parenthood is all about, too — providing the reproductive health care, education, and advocacy that help women everywhere to be healthy and to thrive. And right now — with more and more women seeking care from Planned Parenthood affiliate health centers — we need to do all we can to support them.
To me, it just makes sense: honor the courageous mothers who are raising kids, often in difficult situations these days, with a gift to the courageous organization that helps so many women.
As Mother's Day approaches, I am so grateful for the opportunity to make a difference and hope you'll join me.
This Mother's Day, you can make your gift in honor of someone you love. And the fine folks at Planned Parenthood will send that special person a special card saying you've chosen to make a gift to Planned Parenthood Federation of America in her or his name.
You'll be making a gift to millions of mothers — and to a generation of daughters and sons. What a profound way to mark this day.
The pitch says nothing about the millions of daughters and sons who have been liquidated in Planned Parenthood facilities.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.




















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Nixon
May 14, 2009 - 21:03 ET by Gothampc"You'll be making a gift to millions of mothers — and to a generation of daughters and sons."
Wow, that's really messed up.
But I wouldn't take Cynthia Nixon's advice for anything. She went from being in a relationship with a man to being in a relationship with a woman and she's only one space alien abduction away from being Anne Heche.
"You'll be making a gift to
May 14, 2009 - 21:30 ET by motherbelt"You'll be making a gift to millions of mothers — and to a generation of daughters and sons."
Uh, what daughters and sons?
I guess Ms. Nixon never heard of the "Roe Effect."
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
If you didn't plan her, kill her
May 15, 2009 - 00:37 ET by KC MulvilleThe guiding philosophy of Planned Parenthood is that if you didn't plan her, kill her. Now there's a warm message we can all embrace, isn't it?
By the way: hat tip to James Taranto of the Wall Street Journal, who (I think) first discussed the Roe Effect.
reply
May 15, 2009 - 07:10 ET by Mike76May 15, 2009 - 01:37 ET by KC Mulville
"The guiding philosophy of Planned Parenthood is that if you didn't plan her, kill her. Now there's a warm message we can all embrace, isn't it?"
Yeah, it's real warm. In nature, mothers fight to the death to save their offspring. But liberal so-called "women" and so-called "men" think it's a good idea to kill their children. It goes to show you how profoundly sick they are.
She's talking about the
May 15, 2009 - 06:25 ET by misterbee241She's talking about the generation of daughters and sons who are lost to abortion.
"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."
Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941
gag
May 14, 2009 - 21:15 ET by charlietexasI just puked in my mouth...is she serious??? I say "abortions for everyone"!!!! thats what she should of been saying.
have ya seen the "guy" she with? wow
I think planned parenthood gets enough of our tax payer money, I'm not giving any more.
actors really shouldn't reproduce.
mom
If Cynthia Nixon wants to
May 14, 2009 - 21:19 ET by fitzfongIf Cynthia Nixon wants to piss the money she got from that shallow, frivolous HBO Jimmy Choo commercial on Planned Parenthood (the world's greatest euphemism), that's her business. The problem is that she and people of her ilk are not satisfied with private donations from like-minded individuals...they insist that we have more of our money confiscated to prop up this glorified abortion factory.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
It's not a baby
May 14, 2009 - 21:20 ET by sevenIf they keep repeating that it is not a baby, then they are not mothers.
Real loving and caring moms/mothers do not kill the unborn.
40% of the children born in America do not have their daddy married to their momma. The bible refers to bastards. What has changed?
Hebrews 12:8
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
What has changed? Just
May 15, 2009 - 11:52 ET by CamelopardalisWhat has changed? Just watch TV. Is there anything cooler than being a single woman and giving birth to a 'bastard'? (those poor babies)
This Mother's Day, you can
May 14, 2009 - 21:33 ET by MidAmericaThis Mother's Day, you can make your gift in honor of someone you love. And the fine folks at Planned Parenthood will send that special person a special card saying you've chosen to make a gift to Planned Parenthood Federation of America in her or his name.
Why yes! Send your mom a beautiful card announcing that her grandchild was cut up into little bits and dropped into a plastic bucket!! And then thank her for making you such a strong person. She'll be so proud.
The Crazy Part
May 14, 2009 - 21:35 ET by OneCleverCookieis that she thinks she is the sharpest knife in the drawer.
It's sad when the inmates run the asylum.
11 Out Of 10 On The Bizarro Meter
May 14, 2009 - 21:48 ET by stratmanYep. Nothing says "Mom" like an abortion.
"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength." - 1984 by George Orwell.
What's next?
May 14, 2009 - 22:17 ET by motherbeltGift certificates for the local abortion mill?
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
MB: That is already being
May 15, 2009 - 00:55 ET by stratmanMB:
That is already being done. They have even been marketed as "stocking stuffers" for Christmas.
Warms the cockles of your heart, don't it?
I should have known they
May 15, 2009 - 07:20 ET by motherbeltI should have known they already thought of that....nothing is beyond a group of people who market Christmas cards that say "Choice on Earth"
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
This is what I find most objectionable:
May 14, 2009 - 22:47 ET by BlondeThat's what Planned Parenthood is all about, too — providing the reproductive health care, education, and advocacy that help women everywhere to be healthy and to thrive.
That euphamism.....reproductive health care!
Let's call it what it is, shall we? Dead babies. Ex-mom's.
Disgusting liberal political correctness.
I hope he fails, too.
I'm still waiting for
May 15, 2009 - 07:21 ET by motherbeltI'm still waiting for someone to explain how abortion is a "reproductive health" issue."
Women need abortions in order to have reproductive health????
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Nothing says "Mom" like an
May 14, 2009 - 22:58 ET by JerNothing says "Mom" like an abortion.
Ouch! I think you may have just hit upon an effective pro-life ad theme for the GOP to start running next Mother's Day.
Jer
More SNL Or Mad TV Skit Than GOP
May 15, 2009 - 01:52 ET by stratmanThe GOP doesn't know its arse from its elbow at this time. Besides, Meghan McCain wouldn't approve.
This advertising campaign is skeevy. The text is astonishingly creepy. How deep did the woman reflect on the words before she said them? That's what I was trying to capture in my satire.
BTW, over in Sweden, you can abort your baby if you don't like the sex of the child. Since abortion on demand is already legal in Sweden, why would this bother them - isn't it a natural progression of the original intent that having a baby is more trouble than desired? It's perfectly acceptable in China. And no one gives a hoot at Planned Parenthood whatever your reasoning.
Now we have not only a fetus designated as a non-person to assuage the emotions and intellect in preparation for an abortion, but also a fetus as a commodity subject to buyer's whimsy and remorse, so to speak.
Time to modify the Lemon Laws for this brave new world.
What's beneath contempt
May 14, 2009 - 22:02 ET by bigtimerWhat's beneath contempt about all of this is we... the tax-payers... are forced to fund this group.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Planned Parenthood is to
May 14, 2009 - 22:15 ET by GrannyGrump42Planned Parenthood is to motherhood as Orkin is to termites.
What I wonder is how many drugs you have to do before you are so addlepated that you can actually say something as fatuous as "there is no organization that supports motherhood more than Planned Parenthood" without every logic and irony circuit in your brain blowing out and leaving you in need of 24-hour nursing care.
Depravity has a way of
May 14, 2009 - 22:28 ET by mattmDepravity has a way of warping the mind.
mattm... Yep....and it
May 14, 2009 - 23:02 ET by bigtimermattm...
Yep....and it seems to be the norm now in this country.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Next Up: Childrens Advocate, Larry Flynt
May 14, 2009 - 22:29 ET by PooveyNext Up: Childrens Advocate, Larry Flynt
The really sad thing is, if
May 14, 2009 - 22:35 ET by LumenNationThe really sad thing is, if more people were able to take advantage of PP's birth control and education programs, it would probably cut even their need for abortion counseling in half.
(Ok, that's not a statistic, just a hyperbolic guess lol)
Except for the fact, which
May 14, 2009 - 22:50 ET by mattmExcept for the fact, which is money in the bank for PP, that as birth control and education programs have increased since Roe v. Wade, so have the number of unplanned pregnancies and abortions and even STDs... It may not be cause and effect, but it's close.
Are you saying PP makes
May 14, 2009 - 23:16 ET by LumenNationAre you saying PP makes money from abortions? I'm pretty sure they';re non profit. Do you have some reason to believe they make money from abortions?
No, of course not. All
May 14, 2009 - 23:48 ET by mattmNo, of course not. All those people who work for PP have other jobs and don't make a dime off of it...and all the doctors who perform the abortions do it for free, and the condom manufacturers don't make a dime off of their association with PP when they give out "free" condoms - or birth control pills or whatever - there's no advertising incentive there whatsoever. It's all pure benevolence.
But you said it's "money in
May 15, 2009 - 07:22 ET by LumenNationBut you said it's "money in the bank for PP". What I'm saying is that PP is a non-profit. The people who WORK for PP get paid whether they recommend abortion, recommend adoption.
You implied that abortions
May 15, 2009 - 08:56 ET by mattmYou implied that abortions would probably be reduced if more people took advantage of PP's birth control and education programs. I pointed out a fact that contradicts your point. The money part was merely a side comment.
Besides, they can technically call themselves a non-profit and still rake in millions. They don't have stockholders and they don't report "profits" but they damn sure make a helluva lot of money - 1/3 of it off of taxpayers.
But, I don't mind conceding on the money issue - my main point was that the claim that birth control and education programs will reduce the number of abortions has already been proven false.
"the claim that birth
May 15, 2009 - 09:06 ET by LumenNation"the claim that birth control and education programs will reduce the number of abortions has already been proven false"
Tell that to the folks of Northern Europe. Plenty of available BC, education from grade school, and a pregnancy/abortion rate WAY below the U.S.
"...a pregnancy/abortion
May 15, 2009 - 09:44 ET by mattm"...a pregnancy/abortion rate WAY below the U.S."
Comparisons between the U.S. and Northern Europe have nothing to do with anything.
The point is sex education and availability of contraception have not reduced the frequency and number of unplanned pregnancy and abortions.
And there is a good case to be made that these efforts have actually increased those numbers.
Non profit my fanny
May 16, 2009 - 13:26 ET by general companyThey make boat loads and get subsidized by us.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Are you saying PP makes
May 15, 2009 - 08:52 ET by Dan The Man 2Are you saying PP makes money from abortions? I'm pretty sure they';re non profit. Do you have some reason to believe they make money from abortions?
Yes they make money off of their abortion mills, the yprofit from killing babies. That is their main business. Just because it says non-profit does not mean they dont make money. Start taking some classes on business and look closer at PP and its subsiduaries.
That's just absurd. And
May 15, 2009 - 09:08 ET by LumenNationThat's just absurd. And believe me, if they were trying to make money, there is a LOT more money to be made from adoption than from abortion.
Planned Parenthood is not
May 15, 2009 - 10:06 ET by fitzfongPlanned Parenthood is not designed to "make money". It doesn't exist to produce market-relevant services and address natural market demand. In other words, PP has nothing to do with economic growth, so your question about PP "making money from abortions" is absurd and PP's status as a non-profit is actually a non-sequitur.
Planned Parenthood must operate as a non-profit because there is no widespread natural market demand for its "services". If there was a natural market demand for PP's "services", it could operate as a private, for-profit entity...and the natural demand for its services would create a volume customer base that would encourage market competitors and keep the costs down. However, there is no natural market demand for Planned Parenthood...meaning that the cost for its "services" is beyond the means of its clientele...without government subsidies to offset most of the out-of-pocket cost. In a natural economic market, Planned Parenthood would not exist because there wouldn't be enough patient demand to generate the revenue to keep it open...so they lobby the government for greater and greater amounts of money to artificially lower procedure prices and create an unnatural demand based on the lower out-of-pocket cost to the patient. As a non-profit entity, PP relies on some voluntary donations, but mostly involuntary taxpayer subsidies to create the artificial market demand to stay open.
In effect, the "education", "literature" and birth control distributed by Planned Parenthood (notice I said distributed by, not provided by...taxpayers provide it) are shadow businesses designed to create the false impression that PP exists for reasons beyond abortion...it's a bit like the mafia getting into the olive oil and real estate businesses to mask their involvement in drug trafficking and stolen goods fencing. Planned Parenthood isn't around to make money from abortions, it's around to take money for abortions.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
I agree with prety much
May 15, 2009 - 13:17 ET by LumenNationI agree with prety much everything you say up to here:
In effect, the "education", "literature" and birth control distributed
by Planned Parenthood (notice I said distributed by, not provided
by...taxpayers provide it) are shadow businesses designed to create the
false impression that PP exists for reasons beyond abortion.
Just what do you base that claim on? Have you ever been inside a PP office? Have you looked at their literature? You seem to think they're some sort of evil cabal that sits around thinking up ways to abort more babies. I'm pretty sure PP was in business before abortion was even legal in the U.S. (not positive, I'll have to check that) and they went into business to help with family planning, as a way to allow women to have more control over their lives by having more control over their reproduction. And first and foremost in those efforts is education about birth control.
You're out of excuses
May 15, 2009 - 13:29 ET by dvdaughtry...allow women to have more control over their lives by having more control over their reproduction.
EVERY woman has complete control over their reproduction--they can stay out of the bed.
And first and foremost in those efforts is education about birth control.
Abstinence should be the first, formost and only effort, for the reason stated directly above.
Bottom line: you'll never have to worry about a kid, if you don't/won't get laid.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
EVERY woman has complete
May 15, 2009 - 13:40 ET by LumenNationEVERY woman has complete control over their reproduction--they can stay out of the bed.
Spoken like a real man.
Abstinence should be the first, formost and only effort, for the reason stated directly above.
Technically true, but since it goes against one of the most basic traits of human nature, it ain't never gonna happen.
Bottom line: you'll never have to worry about a kid, if you don't/won't get laid.
Again, totally against human nature.
Against human nature So
May 15, 2009 - 14:44 ET by dvdaughtryAgainst human nature
So because it is tough, we shouldn't attempt the best method? It's not impossible.
Spoken like a true wimp.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
Just curious, how old are
May 15, 2009 - 14:52 ET by LumenNationJust curious, how old are you? I mean roughly -- over 60? Under 30?
Whats that matter? You
May 15, 2009 - 15:19 ET by dvdaughtryWhats that matter?
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
It's just that I find your
May 15, 2009 - 16:16 ET by LumenNationIt's just that I find your attitude -- "Just keep your legs closed" -- to be pervasive in people over, say, 60, who have totally forgotten what a potent driving force sex can be when you're young.
So I'm guessing you're an old fart who hasn't had sex in like 30 years.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Hmmm....No response. Over
May 15, 2009 - 21:11 ET by LumenNationHmmm....No response.
Over 60 it is!
Lume
May 15, 2009 - 22:45 ET by dvdaughtrySorry I could not answer on your time. I deliver pizza's on the weekends.
Anyway, I see that you are pretty new. Try reading the bios.
Glad you can join our humble assembly. I hope you like it here.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
No prob. We ordered pizza
May 15, 2009 - 22:59 ET by LumenNationNo prob. We ordered pizza tonight -- maybe it was you! :-)
Doubt it
May 15, 2009 - 23:22 ET by dvdaughtryEveryone I delivered to tonight were intelligent, honest, and polite.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
All Liberals, huh?
May 16, 2009 - 12:39 ET by LumenNationAll Liberals, huh?
I doubt it
May 16, 2009 - 13:22 ET by general companyliberals are rarly polite.
language alert
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Riiiiggght... And I've
May 16, 2009 - 17:31 ET by LumenNationRiiiiggght...
And I've seen here on NB how "polite" the right wing is lol
dvdaughtry
May 15, 2009 - 23:08 ET by botglumins been here a while ---- just under different names that got banned
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
???
May 15, 2009 - 23:10 ET by LumenNation???
I'm not claiming that it's
May 15, 2009 - 14:15 ET by fitzfongI'm not claiming that it's an evil cabal thinking up ways to abort more babies, I'm saying that it's an unnecessary taxpayer liability using "education", "literature" and birth control distribution as weak justifications for its continued existence as a publicly subsidized entity.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Well most such services
May 15, 2009 - 14:54 ET by LumenNationWell most such services would not exist if not for government funding, sure. But come on man, your clear implication was that it was all a front to allow them to perform more abortions. That's what I took issue with.
Are you trying to suggest
May 15, 2009 - 15:03 ET by fitzfongAre you trying to suggest that Planned Parenthood could not distribute birth control, literature and "education" without also providing abortions?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Not at all! In fact I'm
May 15, 2009 - 16:19 ET by LumenNationNot at all! In fact I'm pretty sure they did for years, before abortion became legal.
And they've done such a
May 15, 2009 - 16:37 ET by fitzfongAnd they've done such a fine job "educating" and distributing birth control that unwanted pregnancies and STD rates have declined since abortion was made legal?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
So you're saying that the
May 15, 2009 - 17:13 ET by LumenNationSo you're saying that the reason why we have so much out-of-wedlock sex and pregnancies today is because of the "failure" of PP?
Yes. When government
May 15, 2009 - 20:52 ET by fitzfongYes. When government assumes the role of universal safety net, it effectively excuses its intended beneficiaries from considering the potential consequences of their individual actions. When people can take the social safety net for granted, there is no disincentive for them to act irresponsibly (double negative intentional)...and they will usually act accordingly. As long as the taxpayer is forced to underwrite the "efforts" of Planned Parenthood, out-of-wedlock sex, unwanted pregnancies and STDs will not decline. Planned Parenthood is, and always will be, a failure.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Sell your BS theories to the
May 15, 2009 - 21:10 ET by LumenNationSell your BS theories to the Swedes, and the Norwegians, and the Danes, and the Swiss, and the Germans, and...
Spoken like a typical lib
May 15, 2009 - 21:21 ET by fitzfongSpoken like a typical lib troll...when you reach a rhetorical dead end, you resort to straw men and ad hominem. Fair enough. There are more than enough liberals on this site worth engaging in debate...and then there's you.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Nonsense. There was no straw
May 15, 2009 - 21:25 ET by LumenNationNonsense. There was no straw man there, and there was no ad hominum attack. I was simply stating that if you present that argument to the millions of people in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Germany and elsewhere, they will happily tell you just how wrong you are.
Really?
May 15, 2009 - 21:34 ET by general companyAre they your standard bearer? Because my standards are much higher
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Didn't say they were my
May 15, 2009 - 22:30 ET by LumenNationDidn't say they were my "standard bearer", just that they have experience with the sort of sex ed you disparage. And their results prove you wrong.
So what's your "higher" standard bearer? Sarah Palin's kid? lol
Funny guy
May 15, 2009 - 23:09 ET by general companySpoken just like a kos-bot.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Whether or not you agreed
May 15, 2009 - 21:38 ET by fitzfongWhether or not you agreed with the points I made in answer to your question, you failed to specifically address what you disagreed with and why. Instead you made a lazy, substance-free attack at my credibility. Sounds ad hominem to me. And I suppose you can produce each and every one of the millions of Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, Finns and Germans you claim will happily tell me how wrong I am? And I suppose each and every one of them will give the same response? No? Hello, straw man.
By the way, the reason I live in the United States is because I appreciate the liberties this nation once offered. If I wanted to be governed by European socialists, I would have had the decency to move to Western Europe...not try to bring Euro socialism here.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Hallaluya
May 15, 2009 - 21:58 ET by general companyI would have had the decency to move to Western Europe...not try to bring Euro socialism here.
And Amen,,,,,And with the stealfromus bill we could give everyone of them a good start over there.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
"Spoken like a typical lib
May 15, 2009 - 22:35 ET by LumenNation"Spoken like a typical lib troll...when you reach a rhetorical dead end,
you resort to straw men and ad hominem. Fair enough. There are more
than enough liberals on this site worth engaging in debate...and then
there's you."
I'm sorry, just what "point" were you making there?
And BTW, I'm pretty sure their sexual education policies have nothing to do with whatever "Euro Socialist" policies they engage. They're just common sense. Kids want to have sex, it's a basic human drive. If you want them to have fewer babies, and fewer abortions, you need to educate them.
Or you can just put your head in the ground and deny reality.
Ask Bristol Palin how well abstinence education works lol
I'm sorry, just what
May 16, 2009 - 00:55 ET by fitzfongI'm sorry, just what "point" were you making there?
Nice attempt at misdirection. You know full well that the points in question were related to the paragraph in bold below. That you would attempt to pervert the discussion by attaching the comment to a different paragraph further illustrates your desperation.
Yes. When government assumes the role of universal safety net, it effectively excuses its intended beneficiaries from considering the potential consequences of their individual actions. When people can take the social safety net for granted, there is no disincentive for them to act irresponsibly (double negative intentional)...and they will usually act accordingly. As long as the taxpayer is forced to underwrite the "efforts" of Planned Parenthood, out-of-wedlock sex, unwanted pregnancies and STDs will not decline. Planned Parenthood is, and always will be, a failure.
You have inferior reasoning abilities, so, when inevitably painted into a rhetorical corner, you lash out with some incoherent straw man non sequitur about Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Germany and act as if you've somehow ended the argument. Wait a minute, that has a familiar ring to it...the debate is over, the science is settled...no wonder you pledge such devotion to Prince Albert the Divinty School dropout!
If you want them to have fewer babies, and fewer abortions, you need to educate them...Or you can just put your head in the ground and deny reality...Ask Bristol Palin how well abstinence education works lol
It is not the responsibility, nor is it the right of the government to be "educating" children about sex. It is the responsibility of the parents to determine when and how their own children are taught about sex. What makes you think that the government, which is not even competent enough to handle the responsiblities it's explicitly charged with (schools, courts, DMV, etc.) is somehow equipped to handle sexual education...a responsibility it clearly is not charged with? The public schools can't even be trusted to teach Math and English properly, yet they still feel entitled to tackle subjects that are beyond their expertise and clearly none of their business.
As to why you believe the tired Bristol Palin cliche carries any substantive significance or supports your "argument", only you can tell. As far as I can see, she got pregnant, gave birth and is raising the child with the support of her family. Bristol Palin will have ample opportunity to make something productive of her life while raising a healthy child in a loving family. How tragic.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Ah yes, such a wonderful mission that PP was founded on.
May 15, 2009 - 14:56 ET by RESTLESS 1Read about your hero here. Disgusting woman, but right in line with liberal ideals.
http://www.dianedew.... Don't know why I can't link this, but you can past into your browser.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Yeah, I've read the right
May 15, 2009 - 14:56 ET by LumenNationYeah, I've read the right wing lies about her, the quotes taken out of context. You didn't provide a link, though.
Apparently it finally took.
May 15, 2009 - 14:57 ET by RESTLESS 1Apparently it finally took.
You might want to take you fingers out of you ears and the uncover your eyes.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Here's some more on this disgustin POS
May 15, 2009 - 15:01 ET by RESTLESS 1"Sanger espoused the thinking of eugenicists -- similar to Darwin's "survival of the fittest" -- but related the concept to human society, saying the genetic makeup of the poor, and minorities, for example, was inferior." Pivot of Civilization, by Margaret Sanger, 1922, p. 80
"On mandatory sterilization of the poor:
One of Sanger's greatest influences, sexologist/eugenicist Dr. Havelock Ellis (with whom she had an affair, leading to her divorce from her first husband), urged mandatory sterilization of the poor as a prerequisite to receiving any public aid." The Problem of Race Regeneration, by Havelock Ellis, p. 65, in Margaret Sanger: Father of Modern Society, p. 18. Ellis believed that any sex was acceptable, as long as it hurt no one. The Sage of Sex, A Life of Havelock Ellis, by Arthur Calder-Marshall, p. 88
But just keep with the chant: "I can't hear you, I can't hear you, I can't..."
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
As for Dr. Ellis -- he is
May 15, 2009 - 16:28 ET by LumenNationAs for Dr. Ellis -- he is not the subject of this discussion. Don't know anything about him, don't care.
As for Sanger:
"As early as 1914 Margaret Sanger was promoting abortion, not for white middle-class women, but against 'inferior races' black people, poor people, Slavs, Latins, and Hebrews were 'human weeds."
This allegation about Margaret Sanger appears
in an anonymous flyer, "Facts About Planned Parenthood," that is
circulated by anti-family planning activists. Margaret Sanger, who
passionately believed in a woman's right to control her body, never
"promoted" abortion because it was illegal and dangerous throughout her
lifetime. She urged women to use contraceptives so that they would not
be at risk for the dangers of illegal, back-alley abortion. Sanger
never described any ethnic community as an 'inferior race' or as 'human
weeds.' In her lifetime, Sanger won the respect of international
figures of all races, including the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.;
Mahatma Gandhi; Shidzue Kato, the foremost family planning advocate in
Japan; and Lady Dhanvanthi Rama Rau of India, all of whom were
sensitive to issues of race.
That said, let me ask you this -- even if your quote WERE true:
Henry Ford was a noted antisemite and Nazi sympathizer. So you'll never buy a Ford, right? Because after all, the company was started by a Nazi sympathisizer. So obviously all the employees today are Nazis, right?
Or how about Volkswagon? That company was actually started by the Nazis! So you'll never buy a VW, right?
Do you see how absurd your argument is?
Don't believe Fords or
May 15, 2009 - 18:03 ET by RESTLESS 1Don't believe Fords or Volkswagens were created for the sole purpose of exterminating the "inferior" races. PP was.
As for ellis, sanger was with him. Believed as he believed, provided "special" services to prove it. So, yes, it's about sanger.
And since you didn't read the link above:
On blacks,
immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless
breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."
Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people
On sterilization & racial purification:
Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial
"purification," couples should be rewarded who chose
sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret
Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.
On the right of married couples to bear children:
Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child,
she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review,
April 1932
On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of
thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov.
1921 (p. 2)
On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial
minorities:
"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the
chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May
1919, p. 12
On religious convictions regarding sex outside of marriage:
"This book aims to answer the needs expressed in thousands on thousands of letters to me in
the solution of marriage problems... Knowledge of sex truths frankly
and plainly presented cannot possibly injure healthy, normal, young
minds. Concealment, suppression, futile attempts to veil the unveilable
- these work injury, as they seldom succeed and only render those who
indulge in them ridiculous. For myself, I have full confidence in the
cleanliness, the open-mindedness, the promise of the younger
generation." Margaret Sanger, Happiness in Marriage (Bretano's, New York,
1927)
On the extermination of blacks:
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro
population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more
rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social
History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
On respecting the rights of the mentally ill:
In her "Plan for Peace," Sanger outlined her strategy for
eradication of those she deemed "feebleminded." Among the
steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions;
compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth
Control Review, April 1932, p. 107
On adultery:
A woman's physical satisfaction was more important than any marriage
vow, Sanger believed. Birth Control in America, p. 11
On marital sex:
"The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the
social order," Sanger said. (p. 23) [Quite the opposite of God's
view on the matter: "Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed
undefiled; but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."
(Hebrews 13:4)
On abortion:
"Criminal' abortions arise from a perverted sex relationship under
the stress of economic necessity, and their greatest frequency is among
married women." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May
1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the YMCA and YWCA:
"...brothels of the Spirit and morgues of Freedom!"), The
Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the Catholic Church's view of contraception:
"...enforce SUBJUGATION by TURNING WOMAN INTO A MERE
INCUBATOR." The Woman
Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On motherhood:
"I cannot refrain from saying
that women must come to recognize there is some
function of womanhood
other than being a child-bearing machine." What Every Girl Should
Know, by Margaret Sanger (Max Maisel, Publisher, 1915) [Jesus said: "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep... for your
children. For, behold, the days are coming, in which they shall
say, Blessed (happy) are the barren, and the wombs that never bare,
and the breasts which never gave suck." (Luke 23:24)]
Let me make it easy for you.
(edited for content)
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Don't believe Fords or
May 15, 2009 - 21:07 ET by LumenNationDon't believe Fords or Volkswagens were created for the sole purpose of exterminating the "inferior" races. PP was.
What an ignorant, juvenile statement. "Yes! Let's figure out how to kill all the negro babies faster!"
As for ellis, sanger was with him. Believed as he believed, provided
"special" services to prove it. So, yes, it's about sanger.
No, that's about Ellis. Sanger is about Sanger.
And since you didn't read the link above:
I DID, in fact, read the link. And I provided you the full contrext of the "quote" you took out of context. Here's more, for the ones I could find:
On blacks,
immigrants and indigents:
"...human weeds,' 'reckless
breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."
"As early as 1914 Margaret Sanger was promoting abortion, not for white middle-class women, but against 'inferior races' black people, poor people, Slavs, Latins, and Hebrews were 'human weeds."
This allegation about Margaret Sanger appears
in an anonymous flyer, "Facts About Planned Parenthood," that is
circulated by anti-family planning activists. Margaret Sanger, who
passionately believed in a woman's right to control her body, never
"promoted" abortion because it was illegal and dangerous throughout her
lifetime. She urged women to use contraceptives so that they would not
be at risk for the dangers of illegal, back-alley abortion. Sanger
never described any ethnic community as an 'inferior race' or as 'human
weeds.' In her lifetime, Sanger won the respect of international
figures of all races, including the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.;
Mahatma Gandhi; Shidzue Kato, the foremost family planning advocate in
Japan; and Lady Dhanvanthi Rama Rau of India, all of whom were
sensitive to issues of race.
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov.
1921 (p. 2)
"To create a race of thoroughbreds . . . " This remark, again attributed originally to
Sanger, was made by Dr. Edward A. Kempf.
On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial
minorities:
"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the
chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May
1919, p. 12
"More children from the fit, less from the unfit, that is the chief issue in birth control." A quotation falsely attributed to Margaret
Sanger, this statement was made by the editors of American Medicine in
a review of an article by Sanger. The editorial from which this
appeared, as well as Sanger's article, "Why Not Birth Control Clinics
in America?" (1919b), were reprinted side-by-side in the May 1919 Birth
Control Review.
On the extermination of blacks:
"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
"We do not want word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population." Sanger was aware of African-American
concerns, passionately argued by Marcus Garvey in the 1920s, that birth
control was a threat to the survival of the black race. This statement,
which acknowledges those fears, is taken from a letter to Clarence J.
Gamble, M.D., a champion of the birth control movement. In that letter,
Sanger describes her strategy to allay such apprehensions. A larger
portion of the letter makes Sanger's meaning clear:
"It seems to me from my experience . . . in North Carolina, Georgia,
Tennessee, and Texas, that while the colored Negroes have great respect
for white doctors, they can get closer to their own members and more or
less lay their cards on the table. . . . They do not do this with the
white people, and if we can train the Negro doctor at the clinic, he
can go among them with enthusiasm and with knowledge, which, I believe,
will have far-reaching results. . . . His work, in my opinion, should
be entirely with the Negro profession and the nurses, hospital, social
workers, as well as the County's white doctors. His success will depend
upon his personality and his training by us.
The minister's work is also important, and also he should be trained,
perhaps by the Federation, as to our ideals and the goal that we hope
to reach. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the
Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out
that idea if it ever occurs" (1939).
On respecting the rights of the mentally ill:
In her "Plan for Peace," Sanger outlined her strategy for
eradication of those she deemed "feebleminded." Among the
steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107
Although Sanger uniformly repudiated the
racist exploitation of eugenics principles, she agreed with the
"progressives" of her day who favored "incentives for the voluntary
hospitalization and/or sterilization of people with untreatable,
disabling, hereditary conditions" the adoption and enforcement of
stringent regulations to prevent the immigration of the diseased and
"feebleminded" into the U.S. "placing so-called illiterates, paupers,
unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, and dope-fiends on farms and
open spaces as long as necessary for the strengthening and development
of moral conduct."
Planned Parenthood Federation of America finds these views objectionable and outmoded.
* * *
Those are the MISquotes I could find proper attribution for on a quick search. Considering that so many of the quotes you attribute to her are lies, I'd say it's a safe guess that the rest of them are too, or are taken so out of context as to totally twist their meaning.
Face it, the right wing so aabhors Sanger and what she's brought to help women of tyhe world, that they will make up any lie to demean her.
You've bought into the lies.
Dude
May 15, 2009 - 22:45 ET by RESTLESS 1She was pro-eugenics. She shared this idealogy with kessler. They are intertwined, in more ways than one. Your cut and paste from PP aside.
You have stated that PP is not making money from abortions. This is patently false. They had revenues of over a billion dollars in '06 or '07, and are now probably making even more.
300 million of those dollars from taxpayers. The fact that they are non-profit doesn't mean someone isn't making a butt load of money.
Now, if as you say, PP makes more from the birth control and family planning element of their business, then why not stop performing abortions altogether? Abortion is currently legal in all fifty states, so if there is a market for it, someone will provide it. It is the low cost abortions that PP offers that take away any incentive for birth control. Why can't PP put there money where there mouth is, and stop providing abortions? And why all the secrecy about them. Why do they try to keep parents in the dark? Why? Not because they fear what parents might do to the kids, but that their source of revenue will dry up.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Why should they stop
May 15, 2009 - 22:57 ET by LumenNationWhy should they stop referring for abortions? Abortion is legal.
As for your figures -- their "revenues" do not make them a profit-earning organization. They have a huge staff, thousands of employees who are paid for their work.
Someone's making a "buttload of money"? Sources please. Otherwise STFU.
right and all the lawyers
May 15, 2009 - 23:29 ET by botgand all the administrators
and all the 'doctors'
and all the workers
make a tidy profit --- there's just not a profit for shareholders
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
No argument with that,
May 16, 2009 - 14:03 ET by LumenNationNo argument with that, unless you're against people earning a living. You're not some kinda commie pinko socialist homo, are ya?
Kidding aside, I made the point before on this thread that if they were in it for the money, there's a LOT more money to be made arranging and "performing" adoptions than abortions.
Really?
May 16, 2009 - 15:43 ET by Kelly72Evidence of that? Sources? Examination of revenues vs. expenditures in each case? Analysis of time, resources, etc. that are involved per client?
Here you go
May 16, 2009 - 16:21 ET by general companyAbortions make fortunes
Now where are yours?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Mine?
May 16, 2009 - 16:36 ET by Kelly72I appreciate the links, but I'm not sure what you are asking me...
I adopted my daughter.
May 16, 2009 - 17:17 ET by LumenNationI adopted my daughter. Trust me, it cost a HELL of a lot more than a $1,000 abortion.
Witch one was worth it?
May 16, 2009 - 17:25 ET by general companyA bit more the 1k,
Maybe if we had far less abortions, adoptions would not cost so much
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Sorry, I don't understand
May 16, 2009 - 17:35 ET by LumenNationSorry, I don't understand your question.
"Witch [sic] one was worth it?"
Which one of what? Was worth what?
Well,
May 16, 2009 - 17:35 ET by Kelly72Congratulations. However, that's not even close to an answer to the point. That's not an examination of revenue and expenditure per case from the perspective of the service provider. That's not an analysis of time, resources, etc. per client for the agency involved.
Oh christ Google "average
May 16, 2009 - 17:40 ET by LumenNationOh christ
Google "average abortion costs"
Then google "average adoption costs"
Then go f*%k yourself
Hm.
May 16, 2009 - 17:49 ET by Kelly72Nastiness will not convince me of anything.
Again, the issue is not whether an adoption costs more than an abortion. The issue is the matter of profitability to the agency... which requires complete analysis of both revenue (from all sources including govt.) and expenditures (of all kinds) involved in each case.
He has no intention of admiting that
May 16, 2009 - 18:16 ET by general companyThe truth has been slapping him around for the last 2 days. Killing children simply justifies the means with these folks
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Hey Stupid
May 16, 2009 - 18:45 ET by RESTLESS 1Ever heard of a profit margin?
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Nice, Lume!
May 16, 2009 - 22:49 ET by dvdaughtryThen go f*%k yourself
Ah...the politeness on display!
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
You obviously have no idea
May 16, 2009 - 16:54 ET by RESTLESS 1What you are talking about. Either prove they could make more by providing adoptions or shut the f#ck up. Stop the fellatio of your boyfriend long enough to think about what you are posting.
You don't like the way I'm replying to you? Tough shit. I'll only be told to STFU so many times before responding in kind. Now pull the penis out of your ass so you put your head there again.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Google "Average abortion
May 16, 2009 - 17:20 ET by LumenNationGoogle "Average abortion costs"
Then google "Average adoption costs"
Then STFU.
Dipshit
May 16, 2009 - 17:46 ET by RESTLESS 1Number of abortions vs. number of adoptions are clearly one sided. You are a fool if you think the money from abortions is less than from adoptions. PP makes is up in volume pinhead.
Now, SHUT THE F#CK UP. You're dismissed.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
That's about the stupidest
May 16, 2009 - 17:54 ET by LumenNationThat's about the stupidest thing you've said since I've been on this site.
One adoption brings in as much money as 20 abortions -- roughly $20k vs $1k.
If you're trying to make money, which are YOU going to promote?
And I'M the pinhead? lol
RESTLESS ONE , the BLACK HOLE OF LIGHT SUCKING LOGIC
May 16, 2009 - 18:03 ET by upcountrywaterJust ain't worth it.
He operates on LIES.
Lucifermoron is center of his own universe.
F**k em and the welfare check he rode in on.
Yes it costs more to raise a child, than it does to MURDER it.
Reagan VS 0bama
UCW,
May 16, 2009 - 21:51 ET by RESTLESS 1I saw this comment earlier. I want to thank you, as well the NB'er who PM'd me, for calming me down. Much more, and a banning would have been my fate.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless...I'll readily
May 15, 2009 - 23:14 ET by JerRestless...
I'll readily admit I'm no authority on the full range of socially provocative minutiae associated with Sanger's birth control views. But, as I noted last night to Dave farther down the thread, I watched what I'm guesstimating was an approximately 45 minute interview of Sanger conducted by Mike Wallace in 1957. Wallace, one of the most talented interviewers ever, was in top form. He was grilling her on (seemingly) every controversial statement that had ever been attributed to her.
However, there was nothing broached, for example, about racial eugenics, including the extrermination of "black weeds", etc. such as described in your earlier post. I'm not insisting she never said that, or any of the other comments you cite. Indeed, some appear very "Sanger-like". But, do you have an actual, credible link which verifies the remark I referenced?
Jer
If you haven't already,
May 15, 2009 - 23:18 ET by LumenNationIf you haven't already, please check my references to her "quotes".
She's been purposely taken out of context for decades in an obvious attempt to vilify her.
I already had Lumen, and
May 15, 2009 - 23:24 ET by JerI already had Lumen, and I'm not being critical, but, unless I overlooked some posts, neither you nor Restless provided accessible links. My hope was to be able to read the material myself.
Jer
Here's the link I
May 16, 2009 - 13:56 ET by LumenNationHere's the link I used:
http://www.ppacca.or...
But if you just google "margaret sanger misquotes" you'll find many more.
Much obliged.
May 16, 2009 - 14:05 ET by JerMuch obliged.
Jer
Jer,
May 16, 2009 - 16:59 ET by RESTLESS 1I must concede that the "human weeds" comment you refer to most likely was attributed to her falsely. She was a strict adherent to eugenincs as professed by kessler, hence the reference to him above. Big believers in killing babies that might be less than perfect. That she white washes her remarks to sound like she is for the greater good, all she really was was some kind of arbiter of what a perfect race or society is. MAYBE not racist, but certainly narcisistic (sp?) beyond the pale.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I accept your apology.
May 16, 2009 - 17:14 ET by LumenNationI accept your apology.
You People Are Just As Nuts As She Is...
May 14, 2009 - 22:45 ET by The7SticksWhat she said sounded pretty crazy as it did, that the perfect gift for Mother's Day is a gift certificate from Planned Parenthood. That I can understand. What I don't understand, however, is that the reaction to this is just as nutty. Who goes around reacting like this is a holocaust? That alone is offensive to a secular Jew like me because the Jews are human beings who are not encased in placental tissue with umbilical cords hanging from their belly button. I can understand the abhorrent nature of partial birth and late term abortions, but if this is the only way you can react to pro-abortion supporters, you are always going to lose. Just think about the morons who flew banners with pictures of aborted fetuses over Notre Dame University just because President Obama was tapped to give a commencement speech.Do you want to associate with nutcase like those? I simply try to avoid choosing a side to participate in because I usually keep my belief to myself. But if this your way to react to someone who's crazy by matching, if not superseding, their craziness, I can't support it.
ah no 7 sticks
May 14, 2009 - 22:49 ET by botgit is much better to associate with the people that murder the babies than the ones who show pictures of the carnage. We stand corrected and in awe of your wisdom and your loving caring heart for these children.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
7s... No ...we aren't
May 14, 2009 - 22:53 ET by bigtimer7s...
No ...we aren't always going to lose.
You are wrong ....time is on my side....
Unfortunately not on the babes being aborted in the meantime.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Just because a fetus is
May 14, 2009 - 23:36 ET by mattmJust because a fetus is encased in placental tissue etc., doesn't mean it isn't a human being. It has a unique DNA structure, fingerprints, brainwaves, a beating heart, breathing lungs, senses, emotions, and so on. The only difference between the unborn baby and you is that you can take care of yourself.
Hey 7, The only difference between the Holocost and Abortion
May 15, 2009 - 00:57 ET by PooveyHey 7, The only difference between the Holocost and Abortion, is the age of the victim.
Abortion is killing the unborn in the womb.
After Mengele escaped to
May 15, 2009 - 01:58 ET by ThermistoclesAfter Mengele escaped to South America, he continued to practice medicine, as an abortionist.
numbers
May 15, 2009 - 02:41 ET by m1xramWith over 50 million children murdered and one million slaughtered every year this seems like a holocaust. How many innocents must be murdered for you to qualify it as a holocaust? The children's right to life were violated and if they were guilty of a capitol crime that required a death sentence they were not given due process.
How is this done? Well, first there's the decision to discuss the situation, a plan is formed between adults and then a plan is carried out to kill someone who has done nothing wrong. Normally that would earn you a death sentence but in the U.S. it's legal.
The "a" word was not used as I find it offensive. It's really PCM, premeditated child murder.
Yahweh doesn't want us to sit on the fence. And on the issue of belief we find in Exodus 19:
Have you abandoned this Torah teaching?
No, you're as nuts as she is, Mr. Catholic Hater.
May 15, 2009 - 07:25 ET by Mike76No, you're as nuts as she is, Mr. Catholic Hater. One only needs to read your comments to see the truth of that. You truly are a vile bigot, 7sticks, and your hate and hypocrisy, especially your hatred of Catholics, shine through in every word you scribble.
Some of us have figured you out, hatemonger.
secular = bullsh*t
May 15, 2009 - 09:40 ET by SickofLibsHe needs to change his screen name to to 'Secular Jew', since he's got to include that in every post, like 'secular' is somehow superior.
I'm pretty sure my dog is secular, too.
§ Sick....Nooooo......
May 15, 2009 - 09:44 ET by TheSterI Need a new Name?
Any Ideas?
Hmmmmm....
Ster.
I dunno,
May 15, 2009 - 09:55 ET by SickofLibsOften overlooked Roman Emporer, §Sterrus Seculus Maximus?
Who goes around reacting
May 15, 2009 - 07:31 ET by motherbeltWho goes around reacting like this is a holocaust?
1.3 million abortions every year.
46 million since it was made legal.
That's just in the US.
If that's not a holocaust, please explain what is.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
secular = bullsh*t
May 15, 2009 - 09:56 ET by SickofLibsMB, don't waste your time: he's 'secular', and as such, is vastly superior to the rest of us.
Guess what - nowadays, you can be a religious bigot without even believing in religion. How more inclusional can you get?
§ CAT FIGHT!!!
May 15, 2009 - 10:05 ET by TheSterYou Kids Go for it!!
LOL!!
Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just
because some watery tart threw a sword at you!
--Ster.
Broken Sticks
May 15, 2009 - 10:07 ET by dvdaughtryHave you answered how it is possible to be a secular Jew yet?
I found this.
You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
New Strategy Of Pro-Abortion Absolutists: Abortion Is Good
May 14, 2009 - 22:51 ET by Blue Collar ToddThere seems to be a marked change in the strategy of these abortion absolutists. Instead of arguing about the personhood of the unborn they are arguing for the goodness of abortion and claiming is even compatible with being pro-family and get this, pro-child. It is an twisted world we live in when such arguments are truly believed by those articulating them.
I care so much what Cynthia Nixon believes!
May 14, 2009 - 23:00 ET by jefflebowskiThank goodness Cynthia Nixon took time from her busy schedule being a overpaid, self-absorbed waste of space to pen this wonderful letter. Since it came from an actor, I didn't even take the time to read it. Why pollute my mind with stupidity from some moron actress...oops actor...forgot she is now a lebanese!
Angry White Dude
www.angrywhitedude.c...
...
May 14, 2009 - 23:02 ET by Eugenia"...there is no organization that supports motherhood more than Planned Parenthood.."
Satan is laughing from the pit of hell at this obscenity because this sad sack and others like her believe this criminal organization is in any way helpful to mothers. It's despicable. I challenge all prolife posters here to make a donation to your local prolife pregnancy center to those really doing good for women and their children.
My profuse apologies to Mr. Graham and all of NB...
May 14, 2009 - 23:02 ET by R D Helm...as I have now posted this link at least 25 times here at NB:
http://www.blackgeno...
Once again, and as always, I eagerly await our resident lefty troll community to come in here and defend this genocidal insanity.
To this point, I haven't encountered even one lefty willing to defend this.
Is it just possible that Cynthia Nixon is a racist?
-Dave
America has gone totally insane
Sorry, Dave...I was sorting my socks
May 15, 2009 - 00:47 ET by JerSorry, Dave...
I was sorting my socks and didn't hear the sound of the troll call. To be honest, I have heard the claim [regarding black genocide being a deliberate liberal policy] made a number of times here, but to the best of my recollection, I had never noticed the referenced link.
Well, all I had time for tonight was to listen to approximately 45 minutes of a Mike Wallace interview with the late Margaret Sanger, the historically leading advocate for birth control, who supposedly was a genocidal racist. Alas, there was not one word even remotely suggesting such was the case. [However, after listening to Wallace's remarkably persuasive shilling for Phillip Morris cigarettes, I make take up smoking after a thirty year hiatus. "There is no filter--nothing stands between you and the natural flavor of the tobacco." [The subliminal sexual connotation was inescapable.] Even Sanger said she was going to start smoking them. (Honest...I'm not kidding.)
But, there are other videos at the site, so I'll try to check them out as time permits. I will say that it stretches credulity the Democrats would wish to systematically liquidate its most reliable voting bloc.
Jer
Why Dave, PP simply cannot
May 15, 2009 - 07:44 ET by motherbeltWhy Dave, PP simply cannot be engaging in black genocide!!
After all, our black President supports them!!
You know, like "Angels and Demons" can't be anti-Catholic because an actor in it says he wouldn't do it if it was!
The newest variation of liberal logic.
And our new President says in front of Planned Parenthood It is time for a change of attitude in the Supreme Court. (emphasis added)
Nevermind laws, and rights, we need a change of attitude!!
Excuse me while I throw up.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Hard to be a Mother when you keep aborting your children
May 14, 2009 - 23:39 ET by bpjamAnd why does a lesbian need to worry about abortion? Is her girlfriend going to knock her up at an inconvenient time in her life?
Or is she just waiting around to get raped so she has a reason to get an abortion?
It's all very, very weird. And incredibly disturbing that a group who has nothing on their menu of services which actually creates 'Parenthood' has it in the title on their signs.
They should be called Planned Parentless.
pbjam
May 15, 2009 - 08:30 ET by okiehawk44I've often wondered how many of us were actually "planned" by our parents?
A pretty low number
May 15, 2009 - 08:48 ET by ckbennetttnI don't know exactly where the information came from, so pardon the anecdotal, but it seems as though more than 1/2 of all pregnancies are unplanned. My wife and I have four kids. I can tell you, 2 were planned and 2 weren't. Do I love any of them less? Absolutely not! They are my life's treasures. Aside from salvation, they are God's greatest blessing to me.
Obama: 'I screwed up'--We're going to be seeing this a lot.
As Mother's Day
May 15, 2009 - 00:43 ET by m1xramNormally, making that kind of a "difference" would get you locked up, but not in the U.S. They locked up the Beltway Sniper why not Planned Parenthodlums?
Planned Parenthood should be nervous.
May 15, 2009 - 07:46 ET by RESTLESS 1It these polls from Gallup are accurate.
"This liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
"I am writing to you about
May 15, 2009 - 09:58 ET by SickofLibs"I am writing to you about motherhood, on behalf of Planned Parenthood and the many people they SERVE."
Placenta Au Gratin, anyone?
Biggest claim to fame?
May 15, 2009 - 10:13 ET by Lord ErondShe's a dyke who starred in a popular HBO series created by a fag. If it wasn't for that, she'd be just another Hollywood hack looking for the next acting gig on her knees in the casting office.
"Let him who would move the world, first move himself." -Socrates
"We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains." -Li Po
If you ever watched the
May 15, 2009 - 10:34 ET by b4m4wyIf you ever watched the show, her 'character' was always angry. Guess she just projected what she felt like everyday.
Gotta feel sorry for her for that.
Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
Ronald Reagan
Which one was she in the
May 15, 2009 - 11:24 ET by RiharWhich one was she in the show? The kinda slutty one, the slutty one, or the really slutty one?
When a liberal speaks, the truth is busy elsewhere.
None of the above. She
May 15, 2009 - 11:38 ET by fitzfongNone of the above. She was the too repellent to have an opportunity to be slutty one.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
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May 15, 2009 - 15:26 ET by EugeniaLol!!!!
I've had help and support
May 15, 2009 - 13:28 ET by Chris NormanI've had help and support — including the amazing, strong woman who blazed her own path to raise me as an independent, bold woman. "
She's so shallow, she doesn't get the irony of her statement.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Why be surprised at this?
May 15, 2009 - 16:09 ET byWhy be surprised at this? Satan doesn't know that he is evil either.
What's next? Jewish
May 15, 2009 - 18:41 ET by RR GOPWhat's next? Jewish Nazis? African-American Klansmen?
The incongruity of abortion and motherhood can hardly be any less surreal.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
the anti mother's day gift
May 15, 2009 - 21:36 ET by katainkenthow foul to try and attach this to a holiday that celebrates the bond between a child and its mother.
(sigh, once again the board ate my comments)
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984