James Carville appeared to plug his new book predicting 40 years of Democratic dominance on the Charlie Rose show on PBS Monday night. Since Carville supported Hillary Clinton in the last round of Democratic primaries, he ended up sounding noticeably less enthusiastic than Rose about President Obama’s power to change things. Rose calmly declared that Obama has given the country "Confidence, a sense of esteem, a sense of feeling young again...a sense of feeling that the democratic values the country believed in are intact." He also suggested "this is a centrist government" and Carville agreed.
But first, Carville knocked any "ism" words coming from right-wing talk show hosts:
CHARLIE ROSE: In terms of policy and your sense of the country, is he on the right track?
JAMES CARVILLE: I think he’s on a -- yes. I mean, look, Warren Buffett says he’s on the right track economically. So, I mean, it`s kind of odd, because you’re sitting there, you got Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity all getting -- Is this fascism, is this socialism, we gonna ruin it? And then you got Warren Buffett saying basically I agree with this guy. So I don`t know, if Warren Buffett...
ROSE: America’s leading capitalist –
CARVILLE: Right, so, look, and I don’t think that there’s a lot of dissent among, you know, people who know something about this, that these banks were really in trouble, that there was no demand in the economy, that they had to do something. Now, it does seem like an awful lot of money to me from where I sit, and how we bring this debt...
Rose then asked Carville about two leftists he met in the green room (who did not appear in the Monday show), and what Carville learned:
ROSE: You just sat here in the green room, I assumed, and listened to a conversation between two people who were looking at the president and America from the left.
CARVILLE: Right. Right.
ROSE: But they were basically arguing the president is not doing enough and that, you know, that sort of their -- that this is a centrist government which is saving Wall Street.
JAMES CARVILLE: Well, I guess it is a centrist government. People, again, people, some people claim it’s a socialist government and some people claim it’s a fascist government. But it does -- and it has, I mean, they didn’t let the banks go down. And the most elegant thing that President Bush ever said is this whole sucker could go down if we don`t do this. I think if the sucker goes down, the consequences are pretty enormous.
Rose tried to argue that we may quickly learn that all the worrying about Obama’s inexperience may look silly if he succeeds. Pay special attention to Rose suggesting Obama "owns the economy" now:
What does this do to the idea of experience? I mean, if this president, with his popularity, is on his way towards a successful presidency, if in fact he now owns the economy, if he can see us through a recovery and a successful presidency, does that say we`ve been wrong about the necessity of experience to the level that we expected?
Finally, as Rose declared Obama has changed politics, Carville expressed doubt that it’s changed all that much:
ROSE: How do you think Obama`s changed politics? The president has changed politics.
CARVILLE: I don't know -- I don`t know that he has. I think he's got people -- he's changed the way people look at the country. They'd become more optimistic about the country. You know, I don't -- the culture of Washington, I don't know if it’s very much changed. It seems to me to be pretty intractable. And you know, the Republicans don’t, you know, the sort of partisan Republicans don`t much like him. The Democrats love him. The people in the middle tend to like him pretty good. He's got -- for now, he’s got, you know, high approval ratings. But I think he has -- the one thing is, he`s changed the way the country looks at itself, and that`s a real magnificent achievement.
ROSE: Confidence, a sense of esteem, a sense of feeling young again...
CARVILLE: Right.
ROSE: ... a sense of feeling that the democratic values the country believed in are intact.
CARVILLE: Right. And people feel like he's something different and something new. And how different and new he is remains to be seen, but at least people feel that way.
When Democrats win the White House, PBS hosts are giddy at how the country feels young again and "democratic values" are intact.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.




















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I suppose Rose is right
May 8, 2009 - 22:23 ET by balboaI suppose Rose is right about "confidence, a sense of esteem," etc., but that's not gonna last. At some point Obama's going to have to produce tangible results that the average person can appreciate.
I somewhat agree
May 9, 2009 - 01:01 ET by KC MulvilleBut mostly with the last part - it isn't going to last unless he comes up with something.
What bothers me about Obama is that unlike the past few administrations, Obama hasn't brought in a new "army" of talent. Instead, he's been recycling old ones, or whoever was available. And when you step back, you see that all of the same players are still there. Obama is the only variable; but everyone else is still the same. Obama has temporarily obscured the fact that the same old players are playing the same game. OK, the guys who used to be on defense are now on offense, and vice versa ... but it's the same game!
Nothing has changed! It's like one of those Kremlin airbrushed photographs, only they superimposed Obama (photoshopped) on top of what was already there.
And what was already there ... was the problem.
it isn't going to last
May 9, 2009 - 06:16 ET by motherbeltit isn't going to last unless he comes up with something.
He has come up with something; he's going on another Adoration Tour. I guess he's just jonesing for a big crowd to appreciate his oratory. If you read the URL line at the WT site...it says egypt-picked-as-stage-for-obama-talk-to-muslims
All the world's a stage.
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
slobbering Charlie
May 8, 2009 - 22:54 ET by TN MomRose calmly declared that Obama has given the country "Confidence, a sense of esteem, a sense of feeling young again...a sense of feeling that the democratic values the country believed in are intact."
It's pretty bad when PBS host, Charlie Rose, out-slobbers Carville! Why even have a guest on? Charlie could just do a solo obama slobbering love affair....
On exactly what planet is Obama a "centrist?"
May 8, 2009 - 23:20 ET by R D HelmBecause it sure isn't this one.
-Dave
The statists aren't coming, they are already here.
That was my thought too, Dave....
May 9, 2009 - 05:27 ET by motherbeltThat should have had a "spew alert"
He's a centrist, his appointees are all centrist, his policies are centrist and pragmatic.....
They are just going to keep calling that tail a leg!
They might say "Wow, that sucks!" But at least they'll say "Wow!" -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes
Politics makes strange bedfellows
May 9, 2009 - 00:33 ET by ClericalGalCarville knocks Glenn Beck, whose books his wife, Mary Matalin, publishes under the Threshold Editions imprint at Simon and Schuster (she also published Mark Levin's book). As another talk show host, Dennis Prager, once asked rhetorically, "Can anyone explain this marriage?"
Carville Marriage?
May 9, 2009 - 01:14 ET by Forest for the TreesThat is one of those mysteries of life that will forever be unexplained and will never make sense to us, mere mortals.
Carville's gleeful crowing is pretty hard to take in blocks of more than 3 seconds or so; rather like a screech of nails on a chalkboard...
"Can anyone explain this
May 9, 2009 - 01:55 ET by Jer"Can anyone explain this marriage?"
Please, I hear that enough from my mother-in-law.
Jer
Centrist? James is lying
May 9, 2009 - 03:37 ET by Andrew H.Centrist? James is lying again. Rose doesn't know enough to know he's wrong.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
In the transcript Rose comes
May 9, 2009 - 07:52 ET by snaggletoothieIn the transcript Rose comes across sounding like a high school kid.
Rose to the left of Carville?
May 9, 2009 - 07:58 ET by redmikeIf only Charlie Rose realized that he found a brilliant method of interviewing political guests. Position yourself with your questions as being more extreme, whichever direction, than your guest. It allows your guest to feel comfortable saying what they really believe than being constantly on the defensive. People tend to make comments that they don't truly believe when they are in an adversarial mode.
If Rose could pull this off with a, ahem, "Capitalist", or a "Right-winger", I'd be truly impressed.
Unfortunately, I think Rose may just be another liberal dink.
Standard media talking point 101
May 9, 2009 - 11:59 ET by ReaverThis is a standard tactic. You will never hear either of these men say the word “liberal”. There are “centrists” and there are “far right-wing radicals” and nothing else.
If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers
They get a PR gold star
May 9, 2009 - 14:28 ET by ahusserFor calling themselves "progressives". Gotta hand it to the lefties they can package garbage and call it gourmet.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
Re progressive
May 9, 2009 - 15:29 ET by slickwillie2001If History was taught with any competence in our schools, 'progressive' would be just as desirable a label as 'fascist'.
Why it's all about
May 9, 2009 - 15:39 ET by bigtimerWhy it's all about 'feelings' don't ya know.
Typical leftists.
Centrist my arse!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
May 10, 2009 - 10:59 ET by gordonlol speak up there
May 10, 2009 - 11:01 ET by botggordon
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