Vanity Fair Projects Limbaugh Audience Will Crumble -- Based on Air America Exec's Expertise?

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If you want to argue that Rush Limbaugh the radio sensation will soon crumble and fail, that he's headed for a "last hurrah," would you sign up as your expert....an Air America executive? That’s what media critic Michael Wolff did in a Vanity Fair article on Limbaugh, "the man who ate the GOP." Rush has power now, but soon he won’t:

Arguably no message apparatus like it exists in the nation, except, perhaps, at the White House (or in Oprah—whose position with American women is curiously analogous to Rush’s position with American conservatives). It is concentrated and extraordinary power.

Except that this power ought to be ending. It ought to all be on the wane. It is not just the Obama victory and the magnitude of his approval ratings. It is not just that the gravity of the economic crisis, with historic unemployment rates, means it’s a lot harder to get people excited about Reagan-and-Rush-esque hands-off government.

It is, rather, a crueler demographic point. The dirty little secret of conservative talk radio is that the average age of listeners is 67 and rising, according to [former Air America guru Jon] Sinton—the Fox News audience, likewise, is in its mid-60s: "What sort of continuing power do you have as your audience strokes out?"

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You can begin to make plausibly large statements about the end of—or at least a crisis in—conservative media. "There are fewer advertisers, fewer listeners, shrinking networks, shallower penetration," says Sinton. "A lowering tide lowers all ships."

What’s more, it’s the Internet that is the fast-growing and arguably more powerful political medium—and it is the province of the young and liberal. The only sensible market view of conservative talk is that it will contract and be reduced, in the coming years, to a much more rarefied format.

If Sinton were such an expert, wouldn't he still be "growing" Air America past Limbaugh's audience? Barack Obama telling Republicans not to listen to that Rush junk put a crimp in liberal expectations, as even Wolff admitted:

And yet, by the end of Rush Limbaugh’s fractious month of calculated outrage, his audience was back up to 20 million.

Wolff lamented how his E-mail server was downed by a Limbaugh wave: "Shortly after the war in Iraq began, when I was reporting from CentCom headquarters in Qatar, I asked an intemperate question of one of the military briefers in the daily televised news conference and, dissed by Rush for my lack of patriotism, got the full effect: more than 20,000 e-mails in 48 hours, shutting down my mail server."

But Wolff still ended on the theme of wishful thinking, that no one under retirement age listens to Limbaugh. It sounds like a good reason to mint new dittoheads among the young:

A kinder, gentler Republican consensus would be much worse for the Rush brand and business model than even an F.D.R.-type era of Democratic dominance.

Rush is so much more lively, scary, jaw-dropping, and fabulous when he’s on the attack. Add to this that he might actually be crazy—the big fear of the moderates—that it isn’t showmanship but a train wreck that we’re all watching, one in which he takes everyone with him. "How far will he go? You don’t know what might come out of his mouth. What if he truly goes to war against the leadership? He could, you know, if he wanted to just split the party. Walk out with the hard-core conservatives. He could and he knows it," said my moderate-Republican interlocutor.

At least he can until the demographic reality catches up with him. "It’s a last hurrah," says Sinton, "because it isn’t and has never been first and foremost about politics. It’s always been about radio. And that endgame is written."

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Well,

Vanity Fair, Air America, Time, Newsweek and the NYT would be experts on the crumbling of an audience, now wouldn't they? 

the rag-mags that love to have an Obama on the cover

and love to write the most derrogatory articles possible on any conservative...can anyone remember the significant differences between the McCain and Obama interviews????  'Nuff said! 

LOSERS ALL!!!!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Limbaugh failure

People like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck , Mark Levin, and the like will go off the air when they go against the views of the average American.  Air America failed because their line was pure B.S. and the American people refused to listen to it.  That's the way Capitalism and FREEDOM OF CHOICE work.   Oh, wait a minute, we have a Marxist majority in congress as well as a Marxist president (small p on purpose).  They will probably just ingnore the 1st amendment (just like they ignore the rest of the Constitution) and make free speach illegal.....

Just remember:

Everyone wants to be politically correct.

This concept was first introduced to the world by a great humanitarian who wanted everyone to get along....

Joseph Stalin

With

Limbaugh's crumbling audiences this means the fairness doctrine is not needed. Just sit and watch them crumble, like they are doing at Time and Newsweak, right ...

Awwwwwwww

Limbaugh's audience isn't going any where.
Limbaugh's here to stay.
Get used to it

Both Wolff and Sinton are

Both Wolff and Sinton are full of bull...it is so obvious they don't listen to his show whatsoever or they would know the varying ages of his callers.

Rush has to be roaring with laughter with this garbage.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Wolff is such a weird little

Wolff is such a weird little man....

Yawn.  Wishful

Yawn.  Wishful thinking.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

Mr Wolff.....

In your dreams.

Fewer advertisers????

Every time I listen to Rush I end up grumbling about the number of commercials!!

"What sort of continuing power do you have as your audience strokes
out?"

Awwwww.... liberals are so sensitive!!!

Is that the best you can do.. wait for Rush's audience to die off?

How long do you think that will take?

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

My God, it's like these

My God, it's like these libtarded morons are completely unaware that this country has ever been through a recession before.

Rush led a huge fall 2006

Rush
led a huge fall 2006 talk radio ratings surge that saw his audience
double in Boston for the key 25-54 adult demographic target group.

-Radio Equalizer

 

The Arbitron summer book also shows that
Limbaugh's audience is 1.5 times greater than the combined audience of
all three liberal talkers in the top 10 market grouping with
Adults 25-54 - and more than 1.5 times greater in the top 25 market
grouping.

The latest Arbitron numbers contradict
widespread media predictions that liberal radio hosts would eventually
begin to eat into Limbaugh's 20 million listener audience base, who
hear him on over 600 stations.

- Arbitron 

And this is from 2006. They've been saying for years his audience is dwindling. And wrongly so. Me thinks this guy is full of crapola when he cites a demographic of 67+ for Rush's audience. Wishing don't make it so.

"Reagan-and-Rush-esque

"Reagan-and-Rush-esque hands-off government" 

In other words, personal and economic freedom.  I think the American people still prefer that, by a wide margin, when asked honestly.

Emotion v. facts

While conservative radio can get a bit shrill at times, I listen to it occassionally and find thoughtful commentary and a fist full of facts v. liberal radio which tends to be emotional, factless and, well, I guess sorta evangelical.  I find the same thing in print.  I read WSJ daily, the Economist weekly (well, probably every day during the week -- it's pretty dense and tend to re-read stories) and visit the NYT about once a week -- which is quite enough, thank you very much).  For some reason, the NYT seems like the same litany every day.  What happened to Bill Kristol on the op-ed page?  My guess:  they caved to the hysterical elite readers' response.  I'm not a particular fan of Kristol, but I always find him informative.  It seems that information is anathema to MSM.  I'm utterly baffled.  Whatever happened to (quoting Fox) fair and balanced reportage and commentary? 

 

As for most of us preferring personal and economic freedom, why don't our congress critters hear us?  Why does MSM ignore the 'tea parties'?  Why do I have so many questions?  I do often feel like the Great Ignored Majority.

 

anneftx

Anne, a very

good point about the reporting and commentary.  Brian Williams does an ad for the NBC Nightly Obama News that ends with words to the effect, things are happening and it's our job to make sense of it.  No, Brian, actually, your job is to report the news as it happens, with no bias, and let the audience make sense of it.  That's what news is, telling us what is going on and letting us make up our minds on how it affects us, and how good, or poorly, the people who are supposed to handle a situation are doing that. 

Gotta give these liberals and leftists credit. . .

They'll say or do anything, based on the narrow-mindedness that enslaves them and the complete lack of reality in which they seem to live and, regrettably, thrive.

ya thinK

Do you think that El Rushbo is sitting at EIB south fretting over this? Heh. 

Yeah, he's sobbing....

Yeah, he's sobbing....all the way to the bank!!

They might say "Wow, that sucks!"  But at least they'll say "Wow!"  -Duff Goldman, the Ace of Cakes

Historical unemployment? Really? Data says otherwise.

It is not just that the gravity of the economic crisis, with historic
unemployment rates, means it’s a lot harder to get people excited about
Reagan-and-Rush-esque hands-off government.

More of the never-ending "this is the worst it's been since the great depression" b.s. from the Obama PR firm known as the MSM.

Historic
unemployment rate? 
Not as bad as it was in the early 80s, or even the mid 70s.  And Reagan's hands-off, lower taxes approach worked quite well, thank you:

Data and graph of unemployment rate by year:

http://data.bls.gov/...

(Change the value for "from" at the top of the screen to 1970.  Puts things in perspective).

The media continues to reguritate these Obama talking points and no one calls them on it.

Hilarity Ensues

"And yet, by the end of Rush Limbaugh’s fractious month of calculated outrage, his audience was back up to 20 million."

Hlarious! The month of 'calculated outrage' was not from Rush, it was from the Chicago attack machine currently occupying the White House. We know from Politico that the attack on Rush had been planned for months and only needed to be triggered by Capo Rahm. They are the reason his ratings surged!

didn't the

msm say last year that rush was not relevant anymore and had lost his influence> if so, why the concern.

Whistling past the graveyard....

Even if they're correct, perhaps these guys should consider that the 60+ segment of the population is getting bigger all the time, and they more reliably vote.  Wrong group of people to be writing off there, dude.

And Lord knows us dumb conservative types don't know nothin' bout that there Internet thing.

10 years from now

Let us say 10 years from now Rush decides to retire after 30 years of broadcast excellence , the leftist cry will be "see we told you he was over"

Exactly jed...you're right

Exactly jed...you're right on the money.

That or if God forbid... he died unexpectedly....of course that would make their day.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

bt - I am SOOOO glad to hear he is serious about losing

some of that weight!  He is such an inspiration to us during these dark days of living with an administration hell-bent on destroying America!  Some days I am soooo down and his message is ALWAYS that we will prevail!  I sure hope he's right!  And I want to be listening to him for the next 20 years!!!!

Socialism is not to way to go...but 'the one' won't even listen to Vladmir Putin who warned him against it!  Guess Obama want us to sink as deeply as the USSR did before another RR can come to bring us back to that 'shining city on the hill'

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Air America definitely NOT Pirates....

If, as the lefties said on TV, the pirates have a 'good business model' (meaning that people should EMULATE them???), what does that say about Air America?

If it weren't for the liberal gazillionaires like Soros, Turner et. al who are funneling millions of dollars into this disaster of a media organization, keeping it alive like a braindead patient on life support, it would have vanished in ignominy within months of it's ill-begotten creation - the unloved bastard child spawned from the DNA of every america-hater in the country.

But like Lucas' 'prequel trilogy', they keep trying to force us into accepting it - much like your mother used to make you invite the smelly hunchback kid to your birthday parties so he could drink all the Fanta and determinedly wet himself....

Rush's demise has been predicted before.

I don't know where this clown gets his numbers for the "average age" of Rush's audience....but if it's the same place he got the old age of Fox News's average audience, he's blowing smoke.

 Fox News destroys the other networks in the key demo (25-54....the younger viewers). 

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/the_scoreboard_thursday_april_9_113813.asp 

The ratings I linked to are from April 9, but they hold basically true every other day.  Fox News beats the left-wing MSNBC by 3-1 in the key, young viewers demo.  Thus, that flies in the face of Michael "Lex Luthor" Wolff's expose.

"women and minorities hardest hit"

Good evening Missouri

When my age is factored in the average goes up ten years.

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

rush is right

haven't they learned by now? How do I say this? Rush is not dependent on how others think of him or respond to him. He has structured his organization such that it doesn't matter how many  people don't like what he has to say. He will carry on no matter what. Of course, someday he will retire, but not because of throwing in the towel to the liberal mob haters. He wants Obama to fail. Some didn't like him saying that. Where is he now? Doing what he always does, and always will do: Commenting on things as he sees them. What percent of the adult population is 20 million? A lot, I would think. I have listened since 1990. I didn't know I was a conservative until I heard him explain what it meant, and what a bunch of buffoons the liberals are.

ahaha!

ahahah! oh that's a good one.  Tell me another.

I live in a college town in

I live in a college town in California.  I know LOTS of college-aged Republican's that love Rush Limbaugh.  I DON'T know ANY young college-aged girls that think twice about that old fossil Oprah.  Therefore, I think this Air Amerika guy is F.O.S.  Rush's ratings will only grow.

Delusion 101

"Except that this power ought to be ending. It ought to all be on the
wane
. It is not just the Obama victory and the magnitude of his
approval ratings
. It is not just that the gravity of the economic
crisis, with historic unemployment rates, means it’s a lot harder to
get people excited about Reagan-and-Rush-esque hands-off government
."

As I said before, that must be some really high-grade Peruvian Marching Powder that they have at VF. And I'm sure the Sweet Leaf is the most primo they've ever inhaled and exhaled. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if that board room at VF was choked with blunt exhaust.Only the most high of the media elites have access to the best vices available on Earth. And as for vices, I wouldn't rule out the availability of prostitutes...oh, wait, they are f***ing prostitutes.

 

2010: A GOP Hill

WTF?

Michael Wolff, Jon Sinton, what planet to these creatures come from?

Vanity Fair and its

Vanity Fair and its columnists would be better off worrying about the dwindling readership of print journalism rather than making lame predictions about the demise of an unprecedently successful media giant whose appeal continues to be extraordinarily robust.

Jer

So What is This???

So, exactly what is this "Vanity Fair"? It is some sort of publication? I mean, does it have pages and stuff with words that people can like read and look at pretty pictures?

For some strange reason I don't think I've ever even noticed it in the magazine section at the store. I wonder, is it like a ladies magazine? I know I don't look in the ladies section. Makes me kinda uncomfortable with all them scantlity dressed girls on the covers. Makes me feel dirty.

Honestly, are they kidding themselves. Talk radio isn't as dead as magazines. Tell me Vanity Fair increased it's subscribers over the past year. Tell me that it's somehow relevant to anything going on in the world today. Tell me it's somehow so much better than every other Liberal rag out there that everyone in the whole damn country just need to run out and buy it for its relevance. Tell me it has insiteful content that is a must read.

Oh, you mean it's none of those things. So why does anyone read it? Oh, it has pretty pictures to look at. That must be why so many of us Rush out and turn up the radio each and every day.

Vanity Fair got sued by Roman Polanski and he won. Turns out that VF made up the story. They have a paid circulation of 1.4 million and a claimed total audience of 6.1 million with 80%  of them female.

Yeah, this is a rag I'm going to subscribe to so I know when Rush is going off the air. 

Ladies Mag?

Yes, it does come across as a ladies magazine. It's pretty much the only thing that the place that cuts my hair has, so I look at them every eight weeks. I often have thought -should I be reading this? What if someone that I know sees me? Psst -slick seen reading Vanity Fair! It's a very hefty mag, but at least 75% of it is full-page ads for women's clothing and jewelry and perfumes. It's full of those scratch and sniff deals too. I wonder if they could just give it away and live off the ads.

Whom do you think reads Vanity Fair?

Ridiculous analysis like that of Wolff and Sinton is not intended to be objective journalism for a broad audience.  It is intended as cheerleading and faux-talking points for those liberals who may be questioning the behavior of their own President and legislators. 

Bills that are rushed through without reading them?  Money handed over to banks without written strings attached?  A Democratic-run Treasury Department which refuses to answer the queries of the Democratically-led TARP oversight board?  Obama's broken promises regarding withdrawal from Iraq and transparency?  Certainly, this behavior disappoints the purist of bleeding hearts.

This stuff was intended to reassure the libs that conservatism and Rush Limbaugh are endangered species, moderate-Republicans are abandoning the Right and splitting the GOP, and any resistence to Obama-ism is insignificantly small and only damaging an economic recovery.

 

Okay

Yeah, okay, I guess we should take the prediction of the guy that thought Air America was a good business venture.

I think not.

Lots more coming

"The dirty little secret of conservative talk radio is that the average age of listeners is 67 and rising, according to [former Air America guru Jon] Sinton—the Fox News audience, likewise, is in its mid-60s: "What sort of continuing power do you have as your audience strokes out?"

That sounds promising. The first of the Baby Boomer Bulge is just hitting their '60s. Looks like there is an ever increaseing audience coming swiftly down the pike. To replace all of stroke victims.

I have been a faithful listener to Rush...

for years and I'm not about to stop now.  Oh and by the way, I never read Vanity Fair, nor do I have any desire to and may I be so presumptious as to say:  I speak for millions, if not tens of millions!  Sounds to me like this Liberal critic wants to get his server shut down again.  Jim Webster

Well I don't know about YOU

Well I don't know about YOU but Vanity Fair has sure converted me to their way of thinking.

Now's the time for me to stop listening to Rush and abandon the SS Limbaugh with all hands on deck as it heads for that Liberal Iceberg.

That way I'll be able to say all snooty like, well I STOPPED listening years ago. Thus proving my bona fides as a free thinker. Because there's nothing like agreeing exactly with liberals to prove you think for yourself.

Clearly Rush is doomed because the readership of Vanity Fair listens to Limbaugh to a man and woman! They were his core audience lo these twenty years.

Imagine the devestating effect when they realize that Vanity Fair NO LONGER SUPPORTS RUSH LIMBAUGH!

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Could be right

I hate to say it, but in a round about way this Air Head America clown could be correct about Rush being on his way out. The reason is not the stuff he is saying, but the simple fact that everything good about this country is in danger under the Communist Regime now holding the White House.

How can we explain the fact 4 scum bags are allowed to hold a United States Ship Captain hostage while Comrade President 0's andministration does NOTHING? 

Like the tee-shirt says "Welcome Back Carter". Our enemies have absolutely no fear of this administration or the Democommunist Party!

TV is the dying media, not radio.

There will be plenty of younger conservative talkers to take over Rush’s place when he retires.

The not so dirty little secret that Jon Sinton and others should worry about is the demographics for TV viewing. The vast majority of TV viewers are over 55. For people over 55, the Boomers, TV was the new electronic marvel in the home when they were growing up, a hard habit to break. Guess people under 55 are busy with their computers, etc, and not TV.

TV could have a big problem when the over baby boomers "stroke" out as Mr. Sinton so sensitively puts it. Maybe TV needs more conservative talk shows and show some morality in its other programming to survive.

Heh.  This analysis is

Heh.  This analysis is hillarious.  I can't stop laughing--the source, the rag, everything about it... screams out for pity!

Liberalism is a convenient lie.

Yes it is, Andrew

I am still shaking my head, too.

These leftists just love to make things up and repeat them ad nauseum.

Well gosh, I listened to Rush on Friday, he had three callers who tickled him pink, a 12 year old from L.A. (who couldn't stand all of the Obama love at her school), a 14 year old from the same neighborhood, and a 15 year old.  Earlier in the week he had a college student who was doing a paper on Rush.  All of these were fascinating calls.

So this canard of Rush's demographic is blatantly rediculous.

Rush's show will end when it no longer amuses him to do it.  Not a moment before.  And there are plenty of young conservatives to take over the golden mike, too (I really like Mark Steyn as a sub)...and plenty of young listeners too.

 

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

b - Agree with your Mark Steyn comment! Also with

the oft-stated comment by elrushbo that he has no intention of leaving the golden mic until he can no longer speak!  Thank heavens for that!  Love that man! 

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

A Promising Future

"How far will he [Rush] go? You don’t know what might come out of his mouth. What if he truly goes to war against the leadership? He could, you know, if he wanted to just split the party. Walk out with the hard-core conservatives. He could and he knows it."

This is the most promising and hopeful thing I've heard from a liberal. Imagine returning to the values of our Forefathers. Could it get any better?

sixty seven YO audience

What Michael Wolff fails to acknowledge is that while Rush's audience may on average hover at at around the 67 year old level, many of them started out as idealistic liberals who by common sense came to see the endless string of flaws in leftist ideology. Yes, youth tends to lean to the liberal side of the spectrum, but many of us get wiser as we age.

The so-called Twenty-Somethings

I don't know what the average age of Limbaugh's audience actually is (67 seems a bit high), but I do think that the Left over estimates its appeal to young adults.  Many, like my son, are thoroughly disenchanted with both parties and looking for alternatives.  They work hard for their money, and question why Big Government largess needs to take more from them to give to people who don't work hard.  A number I've spoken to are surprisingly very libertartian. 

 

This Makes Two Decades

Liberals have been making this claim since Limbaugh made his splash 20 years ago. What they forget is that young liberals get b*tch slapped by life and mature into conservatives. They then listen to Limbaugh and follow other conservative outlets, and learn the truth.

Messrs. Wolff and Sinton couldn't be more wrong, or more thoughtless.

I'd also like to see Sinton's statistics: Where he got them from; who did the "studies" and/or polling; what questions were asked; you know, whittle him down to the crass bigot he is. That's the way the mainstream media has been exposed for its push polling, and whatnot.

If you believe the conservative movement is comprised of only

old timers such as myself, then you haven't talked to amazing 13-year old Jonathan Krohn who spoke at and wowed them at CPAC. Surprisingly, the leftist Huffington Post had a good article on him that began:

"The future of the conservative movement presented himself on Friday, and he was 13. Jonathan Krohn, the author of "Define Conservatism" and political prodigy voted "Atlanta's Most Talented Child" in 2006, was the talk of the Conservative Political Action Conference for a brief portion of the afternoon session."

Here is a link to 955 Youtube video clips of his speech at CPAC, as well as interviews.

Obviously Michael Wolff has not met 14-Year-Old Josh or 15-year-old Alyssa, or the multitude of Young Republicans on our college campuses.

The Conservative Movement is alive and well, in no small part thanks to Rush Limbaugh.

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“Understand something about liberalism.  They never stop until they get what they want, and when they get what they want, it's never enough.  That's why it's a constant thing to have to oppose them.  You can't join forces with them, you can't moderate them, you can't slow them down by joining them, you can't make them like you and have them change their agenda.  They have to be stopped.” ~ Rush Limbaugh

RF... Amen! Doubling down on

RF...

Amen!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Rush has gained listeners since Obama called him out

and it isn't just from old people. I'm not near 67 and am an avid listener. I think Sinton is full of it and jealous.

revised; see below

revised; see below

In a 2005 interview with

In a 2005 interview with Mark Jurkowitz of the Boston Globe, then-AAR bigwig Sinton predicted "in five years we'll be on 600 stations". Four years later it's maybe more like 60 and it's absent from many lib-intensive markets like Boston. (Sinton on AAR, then celebrating its first birthday: "''It's a smashing success. It turns out that, in the words of Sally Field, people like us, they really like us.")

http://www.boston.co...

Holla!

Rush will only get MORE popular as people come to their senses and realize that he's been dead-on this whole time. (and since 1988.)

Meow... Right you

Meow...

Right you are!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Rant on catfish....

The more the left rants the more people rush to Rush. Telling the truth is like speaking an unknown tongue to a democrat.

 Old, Retired and glad of it.

Wolf

is a reliable, rabid anti capitalist who always available to spew his kool aid induced hate to any that will listen 24/7.   He fits right in with other america hating propagandists we've seen throughout the Messiahs continuing election campaign, lots of feelings but no facts.

Must be something in the kool aid they drink?

No Representation in NorCal

2001

They thought Rush would go away in 2001 when Bush won his first term.  The idea was, if a Republican was in the White House, what would Rush have to talk about anymore?

Rush is still number one.  I personally prefer John Gibson in this time slot, but I will also admit that Rush is not going away any time soon.

predictions

Now it's 2009 and it looks like their prediction is coming true, just not about Rush. Obama is in office and the liberal media is going belly up. So, do you think it is because they have nothing to talk about or that they don't want to talk about the damage he has done?

Vanity Fair? More Like Vanity UnFair!

Give me a break.  Limbaugh has been around for over 20 years.  He will thrive with our new Socialist President in office.  Obama has made his stance on things very clear, and he is embarrassed of our country and wants us to be more like socialist Europe.  People who voted for this man are now realizing just what they are getting, and they are mad.  They've been had!

Probably not "news"

Think about it...the left has a constituency with a combined I.Q. of something approaching (but not quite reaching) triple digits.

Therefore, "they" think anyone that doesn't walk the halls of Congress, or doesn't work in Hollywood is beneath them.  They pander to the lowest common denominator and are often suprised to find that they are accused of pulling "facts" out of nowhere, because they think Conservatives are stupid, too.

We need to start fighting as dirty as the other side does.  We have stood the moral high ground for so long, we have become targets for their snipers.

As a side note, I'm teaching my twelve-year-old (homeschooled) son how to understand when a leftist been shown facts.  Just listen for the voice to become loud and shrill, and wait to be called a name other than that given at birth.

 

 

FWH -- Charter member of the VWRC

We need to start fighting

We need to start fighting as dirty as the other side does.  We have
stood the moral high ground for so long, we have become targets for
their snipers.

The one thing that does separate us from them is that we have
stood the moral high ground.  If we lose that then we are no better than them.  We need to just get our message out.  I am reminded of the Bible passage.

Mathew 25:3Then he told them many things in parables, saying: "A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. 8Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop—a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.

And we should take this to heart and those who have ears shall hear and those who dont will also hear but what they want to. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

We need to start fighting as dirty

We need to start fighting as dirty as the other side does.  We have stood the moral high ground for so long, we have become targets for their snipers.

Problem is, Frank, that is precisely what the left believes also.

Jer

Hands Off Government?

"It is not just that the gravity of the economic crisis, with historic unemployment rates, means it’s a lot harder to get people excited about Reagan-and-Rush-esque hands-off government."

 This quote really bothered me. Does this gentleman not realize it was the government sticking its liberal thumbs into every aspect of American business that caused the current crisis?

Younger people who listen

Younger people who listen to Rush I believe are go-getter types that have dreams of opportunity, the chance to work and to excel and make a very comfortable living---and don't like the idea of giving away a huge chunk of what they earn before they can even spend it for those that don't want to work and to have their goals limited and controlled by the State.

My take on many of his listeners anyway.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

RR... My take

RR...

My take too.

Plus, I love to hear the high school and college kids call in and expound on the bias that goes on in their classrooms/teachers/professors.

There have been some wonderful, informative calls over the years regarding the leftist propaganda that they do to indoctrinate our young adults that do call in...

We know they are doing this from grade school on up for the govt. cradle to grade society...but to hear the young ones call in gives one so much hope for the future of this country especially if it is a down day politically speaking for this country.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

In college, I was a

In college, I was a 'hardcore science' major at an engineering college so I was spared the rantings of Communist Social Science Professors.  Now, I'm not saying that colleges shouldn't be bastions of Liberal thought, they should be, but by 'Liberal' I mean rational and free-thinking...not tied into any particular ideology.

The student should be exposed to many different views, not just one, and to be taught how to pick out fallacious 'baloney' arguments, and to research and put the pieces together for themselves.  NOT to be indoctrinated into Communism.

I'm a high school teacher, and a Conservative, but that does not mean that I bash gays or encourage my students to enlist in the military and go out there and kill 'gooks' and 'camel jockeys'. 

I don't bash 'pro choicers' but I do teach that an embryo is a genetically unique individual and is NOT part of the mother's body but rather is indirectly connected via the placenta.  When talking about eugenics, abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and other such hot topics, I always point out both views on the matter.

As for evolution, I also point out that there are those who believe in Creationism and Intelligent Design.  But, all one has to do is teach genetics (especially population genetics) and the groundwork for natural selection is already in place. 

I don't tell them what my religious nor what my political beliefs are, but only teach them what has been backed up and accepted by science...so, naturally that made teaching about the ozone layer myth and global warming rather difficult.  Actually, in those cases the kids had already been hammered by Lib teachers with that stuff before me, so all I had to do was to point out the rational behind how such things could happen.

So, I'm well aware of the Leftist brainwashing they get by many other teachers, the media and society in general and do my best not to do the same but coming from the Right.  Should though, wouldn't hurt for them to have some balance.  

All in all, no teacher is, nor should be, completely free from exposing their views to their students, but the student should not be penalized for accepting those views nor rewarded if they do.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

These people are paranoidand

These people are paranoid and desperate. We'll keep listening and watching whom we choose, we are REAL Americans.