Journalists -- starting with Time's Amy Sullivan, the former Tom Daschle aide -- strenously tried to suggest Barack Obama would not be a politician of the libertine left, and could even make a bold play for Bible-quoting evangelical voters. But as the Obama administration kicks into gear, it's getting obvious that the libertine-left side is winning. Reporters just won't call them that. See two recent AP stories.
Devlin Barrett reported that Attorney General Eric Holder is dialing back attempts to raid marijuana distributors where states have medical-marijuana exceptions to their drug laws. Barrett didn't find or identify anyone or anything with a liberal ideology in the story, and never quoted an opponent of marijuana legalization. Pleased libertines were presented in neutral tones:
Kris Hermes, a spokesman for national medical marijuana advocacy group Americans for Safe Access, said he welcomed Holder's perspective. "It signals a new direction and a more reasonable and sensible direction on medical marijuana policy," he said.
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The New York Times pulled that, too. No labels, no anti-drug spokesman, only quotes for pleased libertines: Graham Boyd of the ACLU and Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance.
The same pattern at AP came in a Matthew Lee story on the Obama administration endorsing a U.N. crusade in favor of homosexuality. Bush was presented as ideological, but reversing Bush is somehow neutral. No one in the story was a "liberal," and no conservative was quoted in rebuttal. Pleased libertines were given the neutral (even positive) appellation of human rights groups or gay rights groups:
The Obama administration on Wednesday formally endorsed a U.N. declaration calling for the worldwide decriminalization of homosexuality, a measure that former President George W. Bush had refused to sign.
The move was the administration's latest in reversing Bush-era decisions that have been heavily criticized by human rights and other groups. The United States was the only western nation not to sign onto the declaration when it came up at the U.N. General Assembly in December....
Gay rights and other groups had criticized the Bush administration when it refused to sign the declaration when it was presented at the United Nations on Dec. 19.
Lee attempted to explain that the Bush adminsitration objected because they were concerned that endorsing the U.N. crusade might "commit the federal government on matters that fall under state jurisdiction. In some states, landlords and private employers are allowed to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation; on the federal level, gays are not allowed to serve openly in the military."
The last paragraph came the closest to a critic's opinion, but it would have been far better to let a critic speak:
Some Islamic countries said at the time that protecting sexual orientation could lead to "the social normalization and possibly the legalization of deplorable acts" such as pedophilia and incest. The declaration was also opposed by the Vatican.
The Caucus blog at the New York Times website also aped the AP approach on this subject.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.
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Photo image borrowed from
March 19, 2009 - 14:10 ET by Tim GrahamPhoto image borrowed from the blog Queers United.
I bet
March 19, 2009 - 14:14 ET by 10ksnookerThe Mexican imports crowd will be happy.
"Attorney General Eric
March 19, 2009 - 14:28 ET by Evoke"Attorney General Eric Holder is dialing back attempts to raid marijuana
distributors where states have medical-marijuana exceptions to their
drug laws."
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day...
What Liberal? No Liberals here.
March 19, 2009 - 14:55 ET by Franklins_LockeOf course, they are white washing this stuff. How could they call him what he is? This is just typical of MSM to not mention details with Libs and mentioning everything about a Conservatives. This is why they have lost credibility and no one listens to tell anymore.
http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/
Dos that mean we've gone
March 19, 2009 - 15:11 ET by Jack BauerDos that mean we've gone from Hope and Change to
TOKE & INHALE
Back off this issue
March 19, 2009 - 15:20 ET by red eye repubThis is not a Conservative vs Liberal issue. It's a Totalitarian vs Libertarian issue. So my suggestion would be to back off of this issue, unless you're ok with alienating you're Libertarian readers. In which case, please, by all means, get on your soapbox and let the fearmongering begin.
It wouldn't be the first time
March 19, 2009 - 15:33 ET by mvfreemanExcept for one person, all the people I know who smoke marijuana consider themselves conservative.
A good buddy of mine will toke when we sit at his house watching Glenn Beck or other conservative shows, or he rails against democrats while we watch the news.
He cant stand Pelosi and company and I can assure you he didn't vote for "O".
Hypocrisy much?
March 19, 2009 - 15:45 ET by Mr XThis is one of the reasons I cannot fully embrace "conservatism", they are all for small government and liberty UNLESS it is something they (usually the bible people) don't like.
Hypocrisy anyone?
It won't feel much like 'liberty'...
March 19, 2009 - 16:26 ET by Mother...once the government starts taxing your 'MaryJane' and 'butt secks'.
i have no problem with sales tax.
March 19, 2009 - 16:45 ET by mvfreemanThe cost would still be cheaper, since you would effectively be cutting out the middle man, who is charging what he is because of the risk of incarceration.
Also would help to cut out the criminal element since they tend to deal in things that are "illegal".
How many bootleggers do you hear about these days?
Sales tax on something...
March 19, 2009 - 18:19 ET by Mother...you can grow in your own home is hard to 'regulate'.
If people want their MaryJane let 'em have it but Big Bro will want to make something off of it just like alcohol and cigs and the red tape from the mentally 'tarded Gov that ensues will be a nightmare and more tax dollars spent on B.S. regulations.
When my dildos and lube get taxed by how much I use 'em I'm going to revolt fer sure.
*giggle*
HAHAHAHA!!!
March 19, 2009 - 19:08 ET by mvfreemanT*M*I*
Seriously though, if people can go down to the local tobacco shop to buy their weed they wouldn't have to go through the trouble of growing it in their back yard.
Hell, how many people grow all their consumable vegetables? It's too much work and takes too much space.
mvfreeman
March 19, 2009 - 20:09 ET by MotherMy husband has plenty of stoner friends. Believe me...they grow their own.
-And stop laffin' at my dildo collection. I'm mighty proud of it actually. *wink*
Two groups I want on my side!
March 19, 2009 - 15:50 ET by Mr X"Some Islamic countries said at the time that protecting sexual
orientation could lead to "the social normalization and possibly the
legalization of deplorable acts" such as pedophilia and incest. The
declaration was also opposed by the Vatican."
Two great supporters of Nazism. One current, one past.
Distraction
March 19, 2009 - 15:55 ET by FranksamThis is a small thing compared to the larger damage that The Big O is inflicting upon us. Even rednecks and cowboys smoke weed these days, and it's not going away anytime soon.
~Annnnnnnd....here come the pot heads
March 19, 2009 - 15:56 ET by choselife3xThat high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Psst...
March 19, 2009 - 16:01 ET by mvfreemanNot everyone who supports decriminalization is a pot head.
;)
But . . .
March 19, 2009 - 16:21 ET by Captain Kirock. . . we all know that most of them are dope smokers.
On this site?
March 19, 2009 - 16:35 ET by mvfreemanI wish I could recall the name of the regular poster who argues passionately against current marijuana laws.
He personally has never touched the stuff and never would, but believes its not governments job to decide what's good for you and what's not.
Not to mention all the wasted prison space.
~PopularTech
March 19, 2009 - 16:55 ET by choselife3xAffectionately known as 'UnPopularTech'.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
nope
March 19, 2009 - 17:03 ET by mvfreemanPop argues vehemently against any sort of decriminalization.
Looks like I'll have to hit the archives when I get home.
~Read your first one wrong
March 19, 2009 - 17:07 ET by choselife3xThought you meant the poster virulently against marijuana itself.
I don't think the one you're thinking of has been around for a while, but I've heard the others refer to him. Maybe sarcasmo?
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
finally found it
March 19, 2009 - 18:21 ET by mvfreemanhttp://newsbusters.o...
It was RD Helm.
There was another thread where he got into it with Poptech, but I didnt look to see what page it was on.
No MVF
March 19, 2009 - 18:10 ET by Captain KirockNobody is going to jail for small amounts of weed. That's a red-herring.
This is 2009, not 1959.
LOL
March 19, 2009 - 18:55 ET by mvfreemanI reread all of my posts and didnt see where I said people went to jail for small amounts, or even implied it.
I suppose it comes down to what you call a small amount.
Let me tell you what happened to my brother back in the late '80's.
He hooked up somebody that he didn't really know with an ounce or two of weed, it was through a "friend". Some time later the police call and claimed my brother was involved in an accident. He said you must have the wrong guy.They tell him he has to come down to the station to sort it out.
Next thing you know they arrest him for selling. The guy he sold to got busted and he rolled over on my brother.
My brother was looking at a year in the county jail. In fact when the judge read his sentence, that is what he first said, but then corrected himself. My brothers lawyer plead a deal for a fine, community service and deferred adjudication.
Two ounces of weed is not a small amount to some people, but to regular smokers it certainly isnt a large amount. Especially if you want to have some for the duration and not have to buy a quarter every few days.
Just like some people will buy just a six pack for an occasional beer and some will buy a couple of cases to put in the guy 'fridge out in the garage.
So drug dealers do not belong in jail?
March 19, 2009 - 20:32 ET by Captain KirockOne of your arguments for legalizing weed was to stop wasting money on prison space. My point was that casual users are not doing any time for possession, unless the amount is large which indicates they are dealing. The law makes a distinction between casual users and dealers. Casual users go to grug diversion programs and pay fines. Dealers go to prison.
Don't you think drug dealers are criminals and belong in prison?
Hehe
March 19, 2009 - 21:03 ET by mvfreemanIf there weren't any drug dealers then there wouldn't be any casual users.
Not everyone is growing the stuff in their attic.
You seem to be going with the stereotypical image of the "drug dealer".
When I was in my early twenties I sold weed out of my apartment.
I wasn't on the street and didnt sell to anyone I didnt know. I had no guns, bimbos or large wads of cash laying around. I would usually have no more than half a pound in my possession. If you came to buy you would have to hang out as if you were visiting. There was no "traffic", just regular visitors.
I also worked in a clinical laboratory and no one would have ever guessed I was selling pot.
Right, and some of your money went to gangsters
March 19, 2009 - 21:03 ET by Captain KirockThat's my point. Unless you are growing your own, some of the money is going to organized crime.
Well I am, and proud of it
March 19, 2009 - 16:40 ET by red eye repubMr. X is spot on. While i usually agree with them, social conservatives can be as totalitarian as liberals. If Republicans want to grow and regain power, stressing individual rights and Federalism is the way to go. Getting in front of this medical marijuana issue would be a great way to enlighten young people and blacks about conservative values. So they dont fall into the Liberal trap that Republicans are only the party of rich, white, racists.
But would it alienate the South?
Alienate?
March 19, 2009 - 17:01 ET by mvfreemanAre you kidding?
EVERY racial and economic group has its share of tokers down here.
As some one else mentioned, the white cowboys smoke, probably more than inner city blacks, since they can actually afford it.
I think you misunderstood me
March 19, 2009 - 17:21 ET by red eye repubMy point is that we would risk alienating the Religious Right (think Huckabee's crowd), which we need in order to have any chance at winning a presidential election.
It would alienate most of the GOP
March 19, 2009 - 18:17 ET by Captain KirockIn addition to alienating the religious right, legalizing weed also alienates the law & order base. If something is illegal, don't do it and don't condone it. I think it's safe to say that most of the GOP fall into this category.
That's a good reason to keep weed illegal. There are a lot of people who will not smoke it simply because it is against the law.
~And then there are the people
March 19, 2009 - 18:25 ET by choselife3xWho don't smoke it because they think it's stupid.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
Good point chose
March 19, 2009 - 18:37 ET by mvfreemanTake alcohol as an example. It's legal but there are lots of people who don't drink for the same reason.
But if its legal then it
March 19, 2009 - 18:36 ET by mvfreemanBut if its legal then it should not alienate the law and order types (myself included). No one would be breaking any laws.
There seems to be a stereotype that any one who smokes pot is somehow part of a vast underground criminal element.
Every single one of the people I know who smoke live in nice houses, have regular jobs, and are otherwise law abiding citizens.
Concerning your friends use..
March 19, 2009 - 19:04 ET by RightsBelieverAmericas is defintely the consumer nation of the world, we use or buy EVERYTHING that someone makes or can market. Drugs, not only pharmaceuticals but illicit drugs make billions. The marketing technique for the marketer is simple, crime. Drugs and other crimes go almost hand in hand..why you ask? The druggies want the dope, they'll steal anything nailed down or left unwatched for just a few minutes. Almost all the violent crime I've dealth with was drug related; only a few (that I can count on one hand)were crimes of passion. As soon as our drug unit got indictments on all the players they were investigating, users and dealers, we had WEEKS where no theft reports were filed. The ones who were taking and the ones receiving those goods were jailed. Sorry, doesn't take a rocket scientist to see nothing good came of the drug scene. As for The Prez saying they'd not prosecute the until a state law was violated or prosecuted is bogus, is a customs crime not federal? Is a IRS regulation not federal? Let's call it what it is..Bulls###.
Obama lied; the economy died.
Tony Blankley
I'm not arguing the legal technicalities of O's new policy
March 19, 2009 - 19:40 ET by mvfreemanIt seems you are referring to the lowest of economic classes and their drug use. Prices are high because of prohibition so they resort to stealing. I'm sure there are plenty of the same group who also steal to get beer and cigarettes.
I dont get what you mean by saying the marketing technique is crime. Everyone I know who partakes does it for the buzz. And they can afford to buy their party favors without resorting to stealing.
I'm glad to hear theft reports were down. But what about the people who smoke that didnt commit any crimes? The home owners, professionals and working class people who you don't know about precisely because they are not breaking any laws other than marijuana laws.
There is also a huge difference between drug use and abuse, of which sadly, poorer people seem to be more susceptible.
You apparently deal with the people who are the dregs of society. Poverty and addiction causes some people to act irrationaly.
~Irrational behavior
March 19, 2009 - 19:45 ET by choselife3xLeads to poverty.
I don't think people are more likely to to be addicts because they're poor, I think they're more likely to be poor because they're addicts.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
defintiely debatable
March 19, 2009 - 19:57 ET by mvfreemanBut I need to get some more beer.
~My first job
March 19, 2009 - 20:07 ET by choselife3xWas at a high-end greenhouse/nursery. One of my co-workers admitted to spending over 20% of her weekly paycheck on pot.
People with a true substance addiction will let the rest of their life fall into shambles to feed it.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
They are feeding organized crime
March 19, 2009 - 20:58 ET by Captain KirockUnless they are growing their own, some of their money is going to organized crime.
Sure it is.
March 19, 2009 - 21:07 ET by mvfreemanWhich is why if it were legal organized crime would lose their profit motive.
As I said earlier, how many bootleggers do you hear about?
Now you're making me laugh
March 19, 2009 - 21:18 ET by Captain KirockYou really think that the instant weed is legalized, all the criminal enterprises that control its distribution are just going to say "Ok, that's it, close up shop. We're done here."
No way. They are going to try to keep their business going anyway they can. As we have seen in Mexico and in this country, no act of barbarity is beyond their reach.
No, something tells me that even if weed is legalized, the gangsters who currently control its production and distribution will continue to do so.
Why would they?
March 19, 2009 - 21:37 ET by mvfreemanLegally grown weed would be better, cheaper, and easier to get.
And you wouldn't have to deal with any unscrupulous drug dealers!!
Ya just go to the store.
And I didnt say it would instantly die out. But it would only be a matter of time.
Addendum:
Think back to the end of prohibition. Why would people go to an unlicensed and illegal speakeasy to buy over priced imports or home made rot-gut when all they had to do was go to the liquor store?
No choice
March 20, 2009 - 18:59 ET by Captain KirockCan you name one significant business in this country that would start selling and marketing weed if it was legal? I can't think of one. Weed carries a certain social stigma that alcohol does not.
Even if one wanted to start doing it, why would they want to tangle with the gangsters who currently control it and who would certainly be looking to keep their business/monopoly going strong?
Also, your analogy to alcohol doesn't work. Most bootleggers bought booze that was legally manufactured in Canada and the Caribean and merely smuggled it into the US. With the repeal of Prohibition, these legitimate foreign businesses could easily start selling booze in most of the US. Also, the US alcohol industry that had been on hiatus making root beer and soda (e.g. Anheuser-Busch) quickly switched back to selling booze.
Legalize it
March 19, 2009 - 16:50 ET by mrbillSorry folks you lose us on the drug thingy. Legalize them all, let me raise it on my farm. Then tax it. Take the ILLEGAL part out and the cartels dry up instantly. I talked with one of my old time Kansas farmer and he laughed and said if you give him 2 years he would grow enough the price would be so low he would need a government subsidy.
You will say drugs cause problems. yes they can, but they do currently and they are illegal. So the fact that they are illegal has not stopped the problem. Lets let them in the open and sell them at the liquor store or somewhere they can be controlled and taxed. Use the tax for treatment and other issues.
Although your favorite government will likely not use it for treatment any more than they did with their evil Cigarette money. They used it to spend and get into a bigger hole.
It's completely reasonable
March 19, 2009 - 18:07 ET by mostlymoderateIt's completely reasonable for people to want to get completely "stoned" while Obama is our "President". Add to that the daily worship by the mainstream-media and some other drugs might be essential too. Therefore, I think pot-smoking should probably be allowed on a temporary basis until 2012.
P.S. I agree with the poster above: this is not a liberal vs. conservative issue and it also has nothing to do with the bible or "dopers".
Partisan Media
March 19, 2009 - 18:42 ET by deerjerkydaveI usually call the liberal media the propagandist media since they are so partisan in their coverage. Conservatives and Republicans are ALWAYS labeled, but liberals and Democrats are called "rights groups" or "advocacy groups" or "union of concerned something-or-other."
Maybe the more palatable term would be to call them the "partisan media." Get's the job done without sounding so harsh.
Legalize it fo' sho'!
March 19, 2009 - 18:44 ET by SRPwrdWhat more would the pols want? A stoned to hell voting base that doesn't want to get off their asses to do anything?
Every single person I know who smokes pot all of the time is a genius, pure and simple, yet none of them go to college and only a select few actually graduate from normal high school. They also bounce around jobs like a ping pong ball. I have no problem being around them, but I have no intention of being like them.
While I may deplore gov't intervention in most things, this is not one of them.
"two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century" - PreBO
what a ridiculous assertion
March 19, 2009 - 20:03 ET by red eye repubI am (literally) a rocket scientist. And i love the stuff. And my white collar buddies enjoy it too. So why don't we cancel out your anecdotal evidence with mine, shall we?
It's people like you who prevent me from being able to order foie gras at a french restaurant because you feel bad for the ducks.
And while i'm at it, i want ignorant people to keep their asses on the couch during voting day. Why would i want someone else screwing up my vote? Everytime i read some story about how high voter turnout is, i throw up a little bit in my mouth. Because that just means we have that many more dunces participating in the process. The lower the turnout, the better. Let the people who pay attention and really care make the decisions. The leftovers can watch American Idol and then everyone is happy.
SRPwrd, I'll have to back
March 19, 2009 - 20:11 ET by hydrodynDMSRPwrd,
I'll have to back up "red eye" here. About a third of the guys I want to grad school with smoked pot on a pretty regular basis, and they ended up with PhD's in a scientific field.
Additionally, a couple of those pot smokers thought legalizing pot would be a very bad idea.
hydro
March 19, 2009 - 20:54 ET by RD KingHad another surveyor when I was young who studied and trained with another smoker after hours and told me how it expanded their brains and helped with the math problems and how clear it made everything. All was fine until a few months later I would go behind him on projects and find property corners as much as 5 to 10 feet out of place, one would have been a mistake but all of the corners to the property placed wrong are a little bigger mistake. Later I was informed that smoking pot for this crew was not out of the ordinary at just about any time of the day. That solved the mystery as to how boundary corners were set in the wrong location. Always made me wonder though what a dentist or doctor would do to you if they had that mind expanding way of thinking about pot smoking.
RD King, Yea, I've heard
March 19, 2009 - 21:00 ET by hydrodynDMRD King,
Yea, I've heard some guys say the same thing about smoking pot and doing science or math problems. But as I mentioned, those guys from grad school did what they had to do to get their degrees, same as me. So what can I say?
My point was that not all pot smokers are total idiots or total losers.
All Pot Users are Dumb as Bricks
March 19, 2009 - 22:12 ET by PopularTechSo what they have a degree. You only need Ds to pass and in some liberal college classes showing up and participating in class discussions will get you a passing grade.
The big myth is that they are not stupid. Pot use causes brain damage.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
PopularTech, OK, let me
March 19, 2009 - 22:20 ET by hydrodynDMPopularTech,
OK, let me clarify - they got PhD's in physics.
How's that?
And since I knew these guys personally, whereas you've never met them, I think I'm in a better position to judge their intelligence. And no, they aint stupid.
You're generalizations are making me questions your level of sobriety.
Just Shows how easy it is to get a Ph.D.
March 19, 2009 - 22:29 ET by PopularTechIf they smoked pot, yes they are stupid. Either that or easily brainwashed. Weak-minded idiots come in all sizes.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
PopularTech, Wow. Yea,
March 19, 2009 - 22:36 ET by hydrodynDMPopularTech,
Wow.
Yea, you're right. Getting a PhD in science is pretty easy.
It's nowhere near as difficult as, say, compiling lists of links and then posting them so often as to become a joke on a website where you where once respected.
Oh wait. That seems pretty easy to do as well.
Having no brain and smoking pot is easy to
March 19, 2009 - 23:00 ET by PopularTechIf you have a weak mind and no will power you can do many dumb things.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
"If you have a weak mind
March 20, 2009 - 00:29 ET by Scuba Dude"If you have a weak mind and no will power you can do many dumb things."
Such as posting links instead of actually thinking and putting forth an original thought.
Anyone can find links to support their position. It takes talent and brains to actually spell it out.
Hence the "posts" that Pop inflicts on us shows a lack of thought and originality, much like a person who has dropped a lot of acid.
"The wrOng ONE was elected"
You are unable to determine my position?
March 20, 2009 - 00:35 ET by PopularTechI find that hard to believe.
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Touche, hDM!
March 19, 2009 - 22:38 ET by BlondeExcellent!
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde, Thank you, thank
March 19, 2009 - 22:48 ET by hydrodynDMBlonde,
Thank you, thank you.
And with that, I am out of here.
Try the fillet and please remember to tip your waitresses.
(Exit stage left)
K, Boo Boo.
March 19, 2009 - 22:50 ET by BlondeNight.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde sticks up for smoking pot
March 19, 2009 - 23:01 ET by PopularTechWhy am I not surprised
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Like your buddy Wayne Allyn
March 19, 2009 - 23:05 ET by Free StinkerLike your buddy Wayne Allyn Root ?
Bugger Off, Pop!
March 19, 2009 - 23:06 ET by BlondeAs usual, you have misconstrued everything.
Go back to your hole, fool.
Stay away from me you sick puppy.
I hope he fails, too.
So you endorse smoking Pot?
March 19, 2009 - 23:09 ET by PopularTechNow it all makes sense.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
Put down the joint, dude.
March 19, 2009 - 23:13 ET by BlondeFabio....you are even DUMBER than you look!!!!!
I hope he fails, too.
You are not denying it
March 19, 2009 - 23:14 ET by PopularTechInteresting...
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Leaping Illogic
March 19, 2009 - 23:17 ET by BlondeQuit oiling your pecs, Fabio.
Jim Carrey's calling....Dumberer and Dumberest!
And you are est!
I hope he fails, too.
It's Dumb and Dumber
March 19, 2009 - 23:22 ET by PopularTechROFLMAO! OMG!! ROFLMAO!!!
Dumb and Dumber indeed!
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
Too soon old, too late smart
March 19, 2009 - 23:24 ET by BlondeYep......
You are soooooo out of it, Fabio.
Keep oiling up those pecs tho, fella. Your thrashing around here is rather amusing to us all.
Est!
I hope he fails, too.
Enough fantasizing about me
March 19, 2009 - 23:56 ET by PopularTechBlonde my ladies are around.
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Dream on, Buckwheat!
March 19, 2009 - 23:59 ET by BlondeI hope he fails, too.
"Quit oiling your
March 19, 2009 - 23:26 ET by R D Helm"Quit oiling your pec..."
Oh, nevermind. :-^)
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Disturbing
March 19, 2009 - 23:59 ET by PopularTechComing out day for you?
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says you.
March 20, 2009 - 00:01 ET by BlondeWhat kind of creepy asshole has a picture of Fabio as an avatar?
Ohhh.....riiight....that would be you, PopT.
Now...quickly....go erase it.
Lalalalalalla....we've all seen what you've done.
Night, creepy.
I hope he fails, too.
Why are you always looking at my profile?
March 20, 2009 - 00:12 ET by PopularTechHmmmmm?
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To use one of your three responses (modified)...
March 21, 2009 - 12:09 ET by Unsane...so that she and others can ROFLOAR...
ROFLMAO!!!
ROFLMAO!!!
ROFLMAO!!!
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
PopWreck,
March 19, 2009 - 23:14 ET by R D HelmHow does someone burning through a j in the privacy of their own domicile affect you in any way?
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
How do dumb people affect me?
March 19, 2009 - 23:15 ET by PopularTechObama got elected.
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Yeah, and you Palin haters were a big reason for that, too.
March 19, 2009 - 23:17 ET by R D Helm-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Palin smokes pot, thus I cannot support her
March 19, 2009 - 23:21 ET by PopularTechI do not support dumb people.
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PoppedWreckage,
March 19, 2009 - 23:24 ET by R D HelmDo you expect anyone here to believe that you never smoked a j, or took a bong hit, EVER?
Puhleeeeeeeeeeeeze.
I bet you are next going to tell us you never had a date with Sally Palm and her five sisters, too, right?
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
I'll bet you $10 Billion Dollars
March 19, 2009 - 23:26 ET by PopularTechEver, I am not some weak minded Palin supporter.
Please your epic embarrassment awaits your weak mind.
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
You are right, PoppedWreck,
March 19, 2009 - 23:30 ET by R D HelmYou are a weak indirect Organizer supporter.
And I am not buying for a second that you never tried pot at least once.
Nobody is that sheltered.
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Your pot use explains many things
March 19, 2009 - 23:34 ET by PopularTechIncluding your schizophrenia. Actually drug use illegal and legal (prozac) explains many, many things about what is so screwed up in this country.
You are not buying what? Reality? No kidding you smoked pot! It has nothing to do with being sheltered it has to do with will power. Weak minds like yours ALWAYS fold, succumb to peer-pressure. I went to college in Newark NJ, I've seen it ALL and never did ANYTHING. What is sad is you really believe because you have a weak mind everyone else does. ROFLMAO!!! You are sad.
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said the man off his
March 19, 2009 - 23:34 ET by botgsaid the man off his meds
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
I don't take "meds"
March 19, 2009 - 23:35 ET by PopularTechMaybe you do, I can understand, weak minded people cannot deal with reality.
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ha ha ha ha
March 19, 2009 - 23:41 ET by candanceThis from the guy who compares himself to fabio and says he got put on probation because other people were mean to him.
And this also from the guy who voted for the only political party in the country that is openly pro-marijuana.
I cahn't beleeve I'm such a beeg heepocrit.
Confused
March 19, 2009 - 23:46 ET by PopularTechI got put on probation for being on the wrong side of the collectivist issues. When you are on the other side you can only receive insults.
The political party that is anti-drug war not pro-drugs.
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Excuses, excuses
March 19, 2009 - 23:49 ET by BlondeSo you were the bitch boy in the slam, eh?
LOL.
I hope he fails, too.
oh no poppies, poppies,
March 19, 2009 - 23:49 ET by botgoh no poppies, poppies, poppies the libers are very pro drug, meth included.
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
sorry pop
March 19, 2009 - 23:51 ET by candanceRail against pot here all you want, but if your guys had won, the libertarian party would be loosening the laws on pot right now. They were the candidates openly running on a platform of legalizing pot.
So um let's see, vote for a woman who smoked pot 20 years ago, or vote for a party full of legal pot activists.
Your words say you despise pot but your vote doesn't. That makes you a hypocrit.
Still Confused
March 19, 2009 - 23:56 ET by PopularTechThe party is not full of them, there is just a very vocal group and every pot user calls themselves libertarian when the time is right but not because they believe in the principles of Libertarianism but because they want to get high.
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oh yeah, like it's not part
March 19, 2009 - 23:58 ET by botgoh yeah, like it's not part of their platform or anything.............. oh wait! SNAP!!
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
Doing drugs is part of their platform?
March 20, 2009 - 00:04 ET by PopularTechOr is the getting rid of the war on drugs? You seem confused.
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More adolescense
March 21, 2009 - 12:14 ET by UnsanePoppy, insist ALL YOU WANT, but the Libertarians want the war on drugs gone so that they can GET HIGH LEGALLY.
If they ever abandon that plank, the support they enjoy on college campi across the country will instantly vanish. The local head shops will all take down their Ron Paul for President signs and their Bob Barr for President signs. There IS a reason for this. It has absolutely nothing to do with finance and everything to do with some college students lusting after the bong.
Do not come back here whining about how wrong I am; while you have yet to see a college campus as you still need to graduate from middle school, I have been on several college campi. I know this to be true from direct personal experience.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
oh really?
March 20, 2009 - 00:03 ET by candanceThen why is it I went to the party website and found an official platform on drugs in about thirty seconds? They make it clear that one of their priorities is to end prohibition.
You're not a libertarian.
Still confused
March 20, 2009 - 00:07 ET by PopularTechSupporting ending the war on drugs and legalizing it does not endorse use. It is a position of individual liberty.
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listen very closely pop
March 20, 2009 - 00:13 ET by candanceThe point of this article was that Obama is loosening the laws on pot. People came on here to talk about ending the war on drugs and you jumped in with a diatribe about how stupid it was. Had this article said "Team Barr Pleases Pot Smokers" which is what would have happened had your guy won, you'd be on here whining about possible effects of your own administration.
So....you think drugs are stupid and should remain illegal, but you voted for the party who wants to end that.
I'm done with you. Now you're playing dumb to cover your hide and misrepresenting the libertarian party on purpose.
You sir are a stupid jerk. And you can go whine to the admins about that if you like.
I simply said doing drugs was stupid
March 20, 2009 - 00:28 ET by PopularTechI made no argument about legality. You are seriously confused.
Why are you so mad for making assumptions?
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well duh!! how could you
March 19, 2009 - 23:41 ET by botgwell duh!! how could you be off your needed meds if you were taking them??
about all this 'weak-minded people' biz, are you planning on building an aryan super race of strong minded people like you?
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
No need
March 19, 2009 - 23:54 ET by PopularTechStrong minded people exist all aroung you, just because you are not one of them there is no need for alarm.
Again I don't take any medications.
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i hear 'strong minded' is
March 19, 2009 - 23:57 ET by botgi hear 'strong minded' is the 09 code for compulsive
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
Nope
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wow, this rapier wit is too
March 20, 2009 - 00:08 ET by botgwow, this rapier wit is too much
we'll call it a draw
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
PoopedWreckage,
March 19, 2009 - 23:39 ET by R D HelmRunning stop signs and exceeding the speed limit are illegal, too.
Are you going to tell us all that you have never done either of those before?
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
I've never run a stop sign
March 19, 2009 - 23:51 ET by PopularTechBut I have been pulled over for speeding, I do have a very fast car.
You have serious issues if you compare speeding to drug use.
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You have a very fast car?
March 20, 2009 - 07:26 ET by KarmaCool. How fast were you going? Like 175 in a 135 zone? Did the accelerator malfunction or was your strong mind overpowered by a weak minded automobile? Why would you even post such a thing?
Healthcare...Food...Education...Housing... - What sprouted as free for some is maturing into a free-for-all.
Because he has a huge
March 20, 2009 - 07:40 ET by general companyWhy would you even post such a thing?
Ego,
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
~Me, me, me, me.....
March 21, 2009 - 12:32 ET by choselife3xNever tried it. Had several opportunities, but I have a strong distaste for any reality-altering substances. Got tipsy once to see how much it took.
That high-pitched scream you hear is the troll under my heel.
so just to prove it, you
March 19, 2009 - 23:26 ET by botgso just to prove it, you helped Obama into the whitehouse
must be the shrooms
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
Obama is a drug addict too
March 19, 2009 - 23:28 ET by PopularTechI didn't vote for him, the left-wing pot heads did.
Shrooms? I don't even eat regular mushrooms, can't stand them.
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your attacks on Palin
March 19, 2009 - 23:32 ET by botgyour attacks on Palin helped B-HO, therefore:
you helped B-HO
intended or not, and you're just too friggin stupid to understand that
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
Nope
March 19, 2009 - 23:36 ET by PopularTechYour guilt nonsense only works on weak minds. You are talking to the wrong person. I voted Libertarian and will never vote socialist nor will I vote for the pot head Sarah Palin.
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Says Fabio
March 19, 2009 - 23:40 ET by BlondeI hope he fails, too.
I agree P.T. Your vetting
March 19, 2009 - 23:37 ET by BlazerI agree P.T. Your vetting process would no doubt insure that even the second coming of Jesus H. Jumping Jack Christ would'nt pass your litmus test as a conservative
. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Not doing drugs is not much to ask
March 19, 2009 - 23:37 ET by PopularTechRomney never did drugs. Case in point.
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Pooped-out-Wreckage
March 19, 2009 - 23:44 ET by R D Helm"Romney never did drugs."
And I am sure you have irrefutable proof of this, right?
How many links will it be this time?
537?
Just how stupid do you think we are?
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Yes not everyone smokes pot like you
March 19, 2009 - 23:58 ET by PopularTechI realize it is very hard for weak minds such as yourself to come to this conclusions but not everyone does drugs. You will just have to live with the fact that some of us have stronger minds than you.
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Romney ? I like the guy
March 19, 2009 - 23:46 ET by BlazerRomney ? I like the guy too, but if your lookin' for a 2012 caped crusader, it aint him.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Hey, P.T., Blazer has
March 19, 2009 - 23:08 ET by BlazerHey, P.T., Blazer has smoked lawt's of pot in his day. Although I do not condone it, or practice it any longer , please tell us how your not surprised, or this is all Sarah Palin's fault.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Palintologists smoke pot?
March 19, 2009 - 23:11 ET by PopularTechThat explains it all!
Palin Smoked Pot!
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poppie
March 19, 2009 - 23:14 ET by botgyou get into the mushrooms again?
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
I don't support Palin, I do not do drugs
March 19, 2009 - 23:16 ET by PopularTechShe does.
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no you supported Obama and
March 19, 2009 - 23:29 ET by botgno you supported Obama and only act like you're on shroomers
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
Does Pot do this to you?
March 19, 2009 - 23:39 ET by PopularTechI don't support the drug addict Obama. But it is clear to me now what drugs do to people as I have stated this before and yet you just post lies.
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as i explained earlier your
March 20, 2009 - 00:11 ET by botgas i explained earlier your attacks on Palin helped Obama therefore:
YOU HELPED OBAMA
a third grader could understand that!!
what next are you going to bleed on me?
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
You are not in third grade?
March 20, 2009 - 00:16 ET by PopularTechI had no idea.
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why heck no, i moved on
March 20, 2009 - 00:29 ET by botgwhy heck no, i moved on years ago, we don't all get held there like you did. So that explains your confusion........
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
You still do not make any sense
March 20, 2009 - 00:38 ET by PopularTechYou seem confused and alone.
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Thats just plain dumb
March 19, 2009 - 21:12 ET by mvfreemanWorking under the influence of anything intoxicating is something I would not tolerate, and no one here is remotely advocating it.
I'm saying do it on your own time and dime.
RD, I almost had to buy a couple hundred feet of curb...
March 19, 2009 - 23:15 ET by R D Helm...and a couple of drainage structures (about $15K) because one of my party chiefs thought he could smoke weed and do construction staking at the same time.
Funny thing, when I processed his files, I could tell you exactly what time he fired up the first j of the day.
Especially if he was collecting topo line work.
LOL-Looked like a spider web.
I didn't care what they did off the clock, but I didn't want them smoking on the job.
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
The Anti Marijuana Resource
March 19, 2009 - 22:15 ET by PopularTechPot users are weak minded idiots who are genetically inferior to the rest of society. The sad part is they are in such denial they do not even know.
Marijuana - The Real Facts (Video) (1hr)
Addiction:
Animals Exposed To Marijuana's Active Component Will Self-Administer The Drug (NIH-National Institute On Drug Abuse)
Marijuana Withdrawal As Bad As Withdrawal From Cigarettes (Drug and Alcohol Dependence Journal)
Marijuana Withdrawal Reported By Teens Seeking Treatment (Drug and Alcohol Dependence Journal)
Smoking, Drinking, Drugs: The Younger They Start, The Harder It Is To Quit (Health Education & Behavior Journal)
Gateway Drug:
Cannabis linked to use of amphetamines (Addiction Journal)
Brain Studies Tie Marijuana to Other Drugs (Science/AAAS)
Early cannabis abuse 'leads to heroin addiction' (Mount Sinai School of Medicine)
Early marijuana use increases risk of drug and alcohol problems later in life (Washington University School of Medicine)
Illicit Drug Use Starts With Cannabis (University of Otago, New Zealand)
Marijuana use linked to hallucinogen use (Johns Hopkins University Bloomberg School of Public Health)
National Study Shows "Gateway" Drugs Lead to Cocaine Use (Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse)
Negative Health Effects:
Brain Damage - Cannabis Could Increase Risks Of Psychotic Illness By 40 Percent (The Lancet Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis Increases Risk Of Psychosis (British Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis increases risk of depression and schizophrenia (British Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis Triggers Transient Schizophrenia-like Symptoms (Neuropsychopharmacology Journal)
Brain Damage - Cannabis use 'dulls the brain' (Journal of the American Medical Association)
Brain Damage - Concerns over mental health risk of smoking cannabis (British Journal of Psychiatry)
Brain Damage - Early Cannabis Use Increases Risk of Schizophrenia (University of Otago, New Zealand)
Brain Damage - Frequent Marijuana Use May Affect Brain Function (NeuroReport Journal)
Brain Damage - Heavy Cannabis Use May Lead to Psychotic Symptoms (University of Otago, New Zealand)
Brain Damage - Heavy Marijuana use has a detrimental impact on intelligence (Canadian Medical Association Journal)
Brain Damage - Heavy Marijuana Use May Damage Developing Brain In Teens, Young Adults (Children's Hospital of Philadelphia)
Brain Damage - How Smoking Marijuana Damages The Fetal Brain (Science Journal)
Brain Damage - Long-term Cannabis Users May Have Structural Brain Abnormalities (Archives of General Psychiatry Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana And Alcohol Taken Together Induced Widespread Nerve Cell Death In Brains Of Young Rats (Annals of Neurology Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Damages Brain (King's College, UK)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Is Linked to Brain Damage (The Lancet Medical Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Use Affects Blood Flow In Brain Even After Abstinence (Neurology Journal)
Brain Damage - Marijuana use in pregnancy damages kids' learning (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences)
Brain Damage - Marijuana Use Takes Toll On Adolescent Brain Function (American Academy of Pediatrics)
Brain Damage - Memory, speed of thinking get worse over time with marijuana use (American Academy of Neurology)
Brain Damage - More Evidence Of Cannabis-induced Psychosis (BMC Psychiatry Journal)
Brain Damage - Scans reveal brain damage from cannabis is like schizophrenia (Albert Einstein College of Medicine)
Brain Damage - Schizophrenia Linked To Dysfunction In Molecular Brain Pathway Activated By Marijuana (Archives of General Psychiatry Journal)
Brain Damage - Skunk smokers 18 times more likely to be psychotic (Royal College of Psychiatrists)
Brain Damage - Smoking Marijuana Impairs Cognitive Function In MS Patients (Neurology Journal)
Brain Damage - Starting marijuana use during teens may result in cognitive impairment later in life (NIH/National Institute on Drug Abuse)
Brain Damage - Teen Drug Use Associated With Psychiatric Disorders Later In Life (NIH/National Institute On Drug Abuse)
Brain Damage - Teen Marijuana Use Worsens Depression, Leads To More Serious Mental Illness (Office of National Drug Control Policy)
Cancer - Marijuana ingredient promotes tumor growth, impairs anti-tumor defenses (NIH/National Institute on Drug Abuse)
Cancer - Marijuana May Raise Testicular Cancer Risk (Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center)
Cancer - Marijuana Use Associated with HPV-Positive Head and Neck Cancer (Journal of the National Cancer Institute)
Cancer - Smoking Marijuana May Increase Risk Of Head And Neck Cancers (Cancer Epidemiology Biomarker and Prevention Journal)
Gum Disease - Heavy Marijuana Use Linked To Gum Disease (Journal of the American Medical Association)
Heart Disease - Adolescent binging on marijuana linked to stroke (Saint Louis University)
Heart Disease - Marijuana use can trigger heart attack (Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center)
Heart Disease - Marijuana Use May Pose Health Threat To Baby Boomers (American Heart Association Circulation Journal)
Heart Disease - Possible Connection Between Marijuana Abuse And Stroke Or Heart Attacks (Molecular Psychiatry Journal)
Heart Disease - Regular Cannabis May Increase Risk Of Stroke In Young Users (British Medical Journal)
Infertility - Abusing Marijuana May Overload System, Inhibit Fertility (American Society for Cell Biology)
Infertility - Marijuana-Like Compounds May Alter Human Fertility (American Society of Cell Biology)
Infertility - Sperm From Marijuana Smokers Move Too Fast Too Early, Impairing Fertility (American Society of Reproductive Medicine)
Lung Disease - Impact On Lungs Of One Cannabis Joint Equal To Up To Five Cigarettes (British Medical Journal)
Lung Disease - Long-term Marijuana Smoking Leads To Respiratory Complaints (Archives of Internal Medicine Journal)
Lung Disease - Marijuana associated with same respiratory symptoms as tobacco (Yale School of Medicine)
Lung Disease - Marijuana Smoke Contains Higher Levels Of Certain Toxins Than Tobacco Smoke (ACS Chemical Research In Toxicology Journal)
Lung Disease - Marijuana Smokers Face Rapid Lung Destruction -- As Much As 20 Years Ahead Of Tobacco Smokers (Respirology Journal)
Lung Disease - Marijuana Worsens COPD Symptoms In Current Cigarette Smokers (American Thoracic Society)
Lung Disease - Research Confirms Adverse Effects of Cannabis on Respiratory Health (University of Otago, New Zealand)
Obesity - Machinery Of The 'Marijuana Munchies' (Neuron Journal)
Pregnancy Complication - Marijuana Use Causes Early Pregnancy Failure (Journal of Clinical Investigation)
Pregnancy Complication - Marijuana use could cause tubal pregnancies (Vanderbilt University Medical Center)
Viral Infection - Marijuana Component Opens The Door For Virus That Causes Kaposi's Sarcoma (Cancer Research Journal)
Viral Infection - Regular Marijuana Use Increases Risk Of Hepatitis C-related Liver Damage (AGA Clinical Gastroenterology and Hepatology Journal)
Myths:
Pain Relief - Oral Cannabis Ineffective In Treating Acute Pain (Journal of the American Society of Anesthesiologists)
Sociological:
African-American Girls Who Use Marijuana Engage In Riskier Sex, Have Higher STD Rate (School of Public Health, Emory University)
Cannabis Almost Doubles Risk Of Fatal Crashes (British Medical Journal)
Children who smoke cannabis are twice as likely to offend (Queen's University Belfast)
Driving under influence of cannabis more common and riskier than drink driving (University of Otago, New Zealand)
Early Exposure To Drugs, Alcohol Creates Lifetime Of Health Risk (Psychological Science Journal)
Emotional Intelligence And The Use Of Tobacco And Cannabis (UAB Department of General, Development and Educational Psychology)
Frequent Family Meals Might Reduce Teen Substance Use (Journal of Adolescent Health)
Glamorization Of Drugs In Rap Music Jumped Dramatically Over 2 Decades (Addiction Research & Theory Journal)
Malt Liquor Linked To Marijuana Use Among Young Adults (Psychology of Addictive Behaviors Journal)
One Of Every Three Popular Songs Contains References To Substance Use (American Public Health Association)
Pop Stars More Than Twice As Likely To Die An Early Death (British Medical Journal)
References To Explicit Substance Use Common In Popular Music (Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine Journal)
Religiosity Curbs Teen Marijuana Use By Half (Journal of Drug Issues)
Researchers Find Factors That Encourage Cannabis Use Among University Students (Journal of Applied Biobehavioral Research)
Rising Teen Marijuana Use Is Fueled By Change In Attitudes (American Journal of Public Health)
Teens who frequently go out with friends more likely to use marijuana (Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine)
United States Has Highest Level Of Illegal Cocaine And Cannabis Use (PLoS Medicine Journal)
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Yawn
March 19, 2009 - 22:23 ET by shawn228That might have been interesting the first time you posted these links, but its been easily a hundred times now right? Same with your anti Palin links, doesn't it bother you that you are using the same things over and over again?
He had my vote
If it helps one person not become brainwashed
March 19, 2009 - 22:31 ET by PopularTechThen it is worth it. What is tiring is the pot head propaganda that it is safe. Why do you wish to spread more brain damage?
What bothers me is your ignorance on the dangers of marijuana.
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Well Pot Tech either your the one with brain damage
March 19, 2009 - 22:43 ET by shawn228Or you hit the bong, because you think you look like Fabio
He had my vote
Scorecard
March 19, 2009 - 22:49 ET by Free StinkerShawn: 1
Fabio: 0
A close resemblance
March 19, 2009 - 23:02 ET by PopularTechBut yes I do not look exactly like Fabio.
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well Pop Tech
March 19, 2009 - 23:08 ET by shawn228You can start doing commercial
Fabios voice...I can't believe I am a spamming butthead.
He had my vote
But his hero, Wayne Allyn
March 19, 2009 - 23:10 ET by Free StinkerBut his hero, Wayne Allyn Root says this about Smoking Marijuana: "...I don't hold that against anybody ..."
wow shawn
March 19, 2009 - 23:13 ET by candanceI just choked on my water. That needed a user discretion warning!!
Don't be jealous
March 19, 2009 - 23:19 ET by PopularTechYou can achieve great things not smoking pot.
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Your right I am jealous
March 19, 2009 - 23:31 ET by shawn228I can just cut and paste a few links and never have to have an original thought again.
He had my vote
Shawn,
March 19, 2009 - 23:34 ET by R D HelmLOL-Don't you dare!
One PITA is enough around here.
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Too late Dave
March 19, 2009 - 23:55 ET by shawn228The copy and paste monster has a got ahold of me.
Why PT is a spamming butthead 1
Why PT is a spamming butthead 2
Why PT is a spamming butthead 3
Why PT is a spamming butthead 4
Why PT is a spamming butthead 5
Why PT is a spamming butthead 6
Why PT is a spamming butthead 7
He had my vote
Replies to posts
March 20, 2009 - 00:11 ET by PopularTechCheck again, that is not spam but replies to posts. I understand the confusion as you are not used to so much information being provided in a post. Reading is challenging for pot users.
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What are you a liberal?
March 19, 2009 - 23:42 ET by PopularTechOriginality has nothing to do with the scientific reasons why Pot is bad for you. I can waste my time posting irrelevant commentary too but it does not have the same effect.
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universal rejection from
March 19, 2009 - 23:45 ET by botguniversal rejection from both sides of the aisle?
"Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend,------------inside a dog it's too dark to read" ---Groucho
PoopDeck,
March 19, 2009 - 23:47 ET by R D Helm"I can waste my time posting irrelevant commentary"
LOL-NOW you are finally on to something that even vaguely resembles reality. :-)
But you might consider replacing "commentary" with the word "links."
-Dave
This coup has gone on long enough. The time to put it down is NOW.
Irrelevant Commentary
March 19, 2009 - 23:52 ET by PopularTechI was refering to your posts.
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So why is Wayne Allyn Root
March 19, 2009 - 22:44 ET by Free StinkerSo why is Wayne Allyn Root okay with other people smoking marijuana ?
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Do you smoke Pot?
March 19, 2009 - 23:05 ET by PopularTechThat would explain a lot.
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Poppy, Poppy, Poppy...
March 19, 2009 - 23:41 ET by UnsaneSo, since you hate drug use and potheads so much, how come you support the Libertarian party, and such politicians as Bob Barr and Wayne Allen Root?
By the way, save your lame-ass question about if I smoke pot. I cannot. I like holding a commission, thank you. (Poppy, a commission is....forget it.)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Different Argument
March 19, 2009 - 23:43 ET by PopularTechUsing vs Legalization are two different things.
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Deep
March 19, 2009 - 23:46 ET by BlondeVery deep.
Sheesh, Fabio.....even lamer than usual, for you.
I hope he fails, too.
Again
March 19, 2009 - 23:56 ET by UnsaneIf you so hate potheads and pot so much, why do you associate yourself with a party that supports its legalization and politicians such as Bob Barr and Wayne Allen Root?
And what is the point of legalizing pot if one does not want to USE it anyway?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
The Financial Argument makes sense
March 20, 2009 - 00:06 ET by PopularTechBob Barr is hardly a pot head.
- Anti-Drug Coordinator, Southeastern United States, U.S. Justice Department, 1986-1990
The financial argument to end the war on drugs makes sense, this does not mean that you support using them.
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Again...
March 20, 2009 - 00:17 ET by UnsaneIf you so hate potheads and drug usage, why do you support the Libertarian party, a party which supports drug legalization; as well as politicians such as Bob Barr and Wayne Allan Root?
Great. You can C&P a "resume". You still cannot answer basic, simple questions.
Again, what is the point of legalizing pot if one does not want to USE it anyway?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Not understanding
March 20, 2009 - 00:24 ET by PopularTechI don't hate potheads, I thing they are dumb as bricks and genetically inferior.
Government spending, regulations and taxes are so out of control that only the Libertarian party appears to understand this. Their position on drug legalization from a financial argument makes sense and is something I would consider if they first severly shrank the size of government and it's grip on the free market. None of this changes my position on the scientific reality that pot is bad for you and causes brain damage.
I personally wish drug users full access to as much drugs as they want so they can kill themselves off.
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So much idiocy and so little time
March 21, 2009 - 12:28 ET by UnsaneI don't hate potheads, I thing they are dumb as bricks and genetically inferior. Genetically inferior? Wow. Support eugenics much??? By the way, that entire sentence is a contradiction.
Government spending, regulations and taxes are so out of control that only the Libertarian party appears to understand this. Maybe. But as they so deeply ache for an America that is as completely and totally WHINY on the world stage as possible and their desire to induce societal ROT, I will never support them. Ever.
Their position on drug legalization from a financial argument makes sense and is something I would consider if they first severly shrank the size of government and it's grip on the free market. None of this changes my position on the scientific reality that pot is bad for you and causes brain damage. So, you hate drugs, and you think that if we stop enforcing laws against the use of drugs...the problem will just magically go away because after everyone reads Poppy's links (not his original ideas as he is bereft of them), no one will ever use drugs, and the world will live Happily Ever After. I love the utopian, hyper-idealistic world views of a Libertarian. Another reason why I keep my distance from them.
I personally wish drug users full access to as much drugs as they want so they can kill themselves off. Unfortunately, Poppy, they tend to drag lots and lots of people and resources down with them. Witness downtown Oslo, the Needle Park experiment in Zurich, and other places where drug use has been tolerated. Also, I tend to note that the regions of the world that severely frown upon drug use with legal mechanisms tend to be ther countries that are either major players on the world stage or aspirants. Those who decriminalize drugs tend to be those nations who have totally given up on themselves and their people, and set themselves on the Road to Nowhere, and join my "Going Nowhere" club.
For those reasons, I cannot make the final leap to supporting drug legalization.
And by the way, if you support ending the war on drugs, you support their use. Simple as that.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Damn dude
March 19, 2009 - 22:44 ET by mvfreemanWhat took you so long?
It's just not a real marijuana thread without your handy standby copy and paste links!!
:)
peace
It is not a Pot Thread without the science?
March 19, 2009 - 23:04 ET by PopularTechBetter to have the pot head nonsense about how we can run our cars on hemp. ROFLMAO!
Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution
wow shawn
March 19, 2009 - 23:07 ET by candanceYou actually looked at Pop's post? As soon as I see his name I roll my eyes and keep scrolling.
Sorry bout that hydro
March 19, 2009 - 22:53 ET by RD KingI was actually meaning to say that most of those I know from back then would agree, legalizing is not a good idea. The guy I knew in surveying was no idiot but he threw away his knowledge and talent for the profession and as far as I know doesn't work at anything today, that to me is the real shame.
Everything in
March 19, 2009 - 23:33 ET by RR GOPEverything in moderation.
I think it's pretty stupid to clog our legal system, arrest and book many otherwise law-abiding people because of pot of all things.
Wish the stuff would suffer a virus that wipes it out, but if adults want to smoke it then that should be their own choice.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
Here's my dream...
March 19, 2009 - 23:57 ET by MotherHear me out...
Tokers toke [you won't get your left leg in your right pant leg to vote anyhow so toke away]. -BUT, keep pot legal within reason [an ounce or under]. Otherwise taxpayers have to pay for the retarded regulation they will try to impinge on you stoners.
Gays? "Give a mouse a cookie logic".
First it's don't 'hate'...
Now it's 'marriage/adoption/school' et al.
Why do gays want to go after straight 'roles'?
Tax?
Listen up...
If pot helps you through some tough times. DEAL. There are worse drugs out there [legal prescripts] so have at 'er.
Gays? I have no prob with two grown people of the same sex diddling each other but why encroach on hetero sanctity? Make up "Garriage" or something. You suck stink holes and expect to have hetero rights? I don't sphinct so. Re-think that one, pinky lifters and flannel wearing combat booters.