Pseudo-conservative Kathleen Parker’s ongoing method of getting her columns published in the Washington Post – bashing conservatives – took another sleazy turn on Sunday, with Parker asserting in the Post that conservatives who accuse the media of a liberal bias are "non-journalists" who stoking "ignorance," like Rush Limbaugh (not to mention groups like the Media Research Center.)
The biggest challenge facing America's struggling newspaper industry may not be the high cost of newsprint or lost ad revenue, but ignorance stoked by drive-by punditry.
Yes, Dittoheads, you heard it right.
Drive-by pundits, to spin off of Rush Limbaugh's "drive-by media," are non-journalists who have been demonizing the media for the past 20 years or so and who blame the current news crisis on bias.
That would seem to be a direct slap at MRC, who could be accused by a liberal of "demonizing the media for the past 20 years or so" (founded in 1987). Could there be a better way for Parker to bow and scrape before her syndicators at the Washington Post Company than to decry that American newspapers are the lifeblood of democracy, and they’re being unfairly maligned by ignorant and unprofessional hooligans?
Frankly, the idea that "drive-by pundits" who decry liberal bias are "non-journalists" is simply not true in many cases. Start with Bernard Goldberg, a long-time veteran of CBS. (I’m not a "non-journalist." I’m a journalist who writes about journalism. Just because the Washington Post wouldn’t hire me doesn’t mean I’m not a journalist.)
Then, there’s simply the flawed logic that a "non-journalist" can’t criticize the journalist. If a plumber came into your home to a fix a leak and instead flooded the place, could the plumber argue "non-plumbers" have too much "ignorance" to complain?
She makes a lame feint to the idea that "there is some room for media criticism" and yes, some newspapers are liberal, but the charges of conservative media critics are comical:
Constant criticism of the "elite media" is comical to most reporters, whose paychecks wouldn't cover Limbaugh's annual dry cleaning bill. The truly elite media are the people most Americans have never heard of -- the daily-grind reporters who turn out for city council and school board meetings. Or the investigative teams who chase leads for months to expose abuse or corruption.
These are the champions of the industry, not the food-fighters on TV or the grenade throwers on radio. Or the bloggers (with a few exceptions), who may be excellent critics and fact-checkers, but who rely on newspapers to provide their material.
As others have noted, the Internet can't quickly enough fill the void created by lost newspapers. In time, some markets simply won't have a town crier -- and then who will go to all those meetings where news is made? What will people not know? In such a vacuum, gossip rules the mob.
That is simply a cartoon, a mudslinging campaign commercial script that could be paid for by the American Society of Newspaper Editors. Clearly, the average talk-radio host doesn't make Limbaugh money, just like the average newspaper reporter doesn't make Katie Couric money. You don't dismiss the overwhelming evidence of liberal media bias by trying to distract people by talking salaries, that somehow, newspaper reporters are heroes because they helped install Obama while they made a five-figure salary.
The column is titled "Frayed Thread in a Free Society." Parker’s not a conservative. Because a conservative would argue the opposite: that liberal newspapers are a threat to a free society, not conservative media critics. Liberal newspapers are the ones who wanted to make America safe for terrorist suspects. Liberal newspapers are the ones whose coverage of Iraq screamed that they wanted America to fail. Liberal newspapers are fully behind turning America into just another European-style no-growth socialist republic.
If Parker wants to fly her liberal flag and claim that only the "ignorant" believe in consistent liberal bias, then why doesn't she actually address the evidence, instead of just throwing bombs?
Kathleen Parker should look in the mirror and see just who is the "drive-by pundit."
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong
March 15, 2009 - 08:30 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsSomething else also contributes to my disdain for the MSM: sheer incompetence. One example here: my father was walking along a beach in a resort town. He was approached by a TV reporter and asked some questions about a local ordinance being pushed. No need for specifics here. When they featured a blurb with him on the news they spelled his name wrong (he had spelled correctly it for them), stated he was a resident when he had pointed out he was a visitor, and said he was in favor of the ordinance when he had stated he knew nothing about it.
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Remember, journalism school
March 15, 2009 - 12:34 ET by CaligulaRemember, journalism school (j-school in their speak) is what I like to call grade 13. Because that is just about the caliber one is going to get out of the majority of j-school attendees. It's not just that they don't care what we think (or think of them), they simply don't HAVE to care what we think (or think of them).
So, my expectations for a
March 15, 2009 - 08:34 ET by ThisnThatSo, my expectations for a liberal newspaper to simply report the facts -- rather than hide the truth -- shows that I'm too ignorant to understand????
Great logical thinking on display there -- NOT.
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The challenge is to follow a consistent plan despite inconsistent prices - Sarah Palin, State of the State of Alaska speech
There is a big percentage
March 15, 2009 - 14:41 ET by kgThere is a big percentage of liberals who refuse to read/watch the dinosaur media because of their lies and bias. This media had better wake up before they are all on unemployment and stop blaming people who go elsewhere to get accurate news.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Truth about MSM
March 15, 2009 - 08:55 ET by Retired GeekMSM on Truth
John Swinton spoke truth for the Century.
John Swinton, former chief of staff, New York Times, when called upon to give a toast before the New York Press Club (1953) said this:
"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know it would never appear in print.
I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out in the streets looking for another job. If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before 24 hours my occupation would be gone.
The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread.
You know it and I know it, so what folly is this toasting an independent press. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings, we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes"
Kathleen Parker is Ashamed of 'Common Folks'
March 15, 2009 - 08:58 ET by Retired GeekEmail I sent to Kathleen Parker
__________________________
Pardon me ma'am, your 'Elitism is Showing'.
Elitism is a state of mind NOT privilege and wealth. Many wealthy people are not elitists and many elitists are not wealthy.
Kathleen, I have read most if not all of your columns posted here at Town Hall. One thing comes through loud and clear - you are embarrassed by your fellow South Carolinians - you think that your rightful place is sipping a Latte in New York City, along with others who 'Know' they are gifted individuals.
Your 'real' problems with Sarah Palin are threefold - religion, her role as wife and mother and her 'commoness' in intellect.
I could imagine these quotes coming from you instead of H.L. Mencken:
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"Thus such a thing as a truly enlightened Christian is hard to imagine. Either he is enlightened or he is Christian, and the louder he protests that he is the former the more apparent it becomes that he is really the latter."
"No one in this world, so far as I know ... has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."
Finally a quote from Kathleen Parker:
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"In 2003, when Howard Dean lamented that the South had to stop obsessing about on race, guns, God and gays, he wasn't necessarily wrong."
We 'common folk' are truly sorry we embarrass you, maybe you can keep enlightening us.
Sarah Palin embodies the things you detest most.
Kathleen Parker, you just don't get life, do you?
Media Wh*re!
March 15, 2009 - 10:02 ET by Wildcatter1980I am sorry to say that Ms. Parker has become a media wh*re. She is obviously more interested in seeing her words in print than she is in maintaining any sense of integrity and decency.
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In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price. - Ronald Reagan from his first inaugural address
Parker!
March 15, 2009 - 11:11 ET by blazermaniacThe main reason that the newspaper industry is dying, is because of its liberal beliefs. The person that Miss Parker is calling a "ditto head" is doing better than ever. And so is conservative talk radio. Kathleen Parker needs to disappear from TV, because no one gives a damn what she says. Same for the Obama administration.
I didn't realize she was on TV...
March 15, 2009 - 12:55 ET by jawebster1of course, I only watch Fox. She must appear on MSNBC where I'm sure she is a big hit. Jim Webster
Indeed...
March 15, 2009 - 15:40 ET by Wildcatter1980...unless I am mistaken, Ms Parker may not have been on TV before she started trashing Sarah Palin. (If she was on TV, it was only rarely.) Any wonder then, she now prostitutes herself!
Wah Wah Wah
March 15, 2009 - 08:59 ET by circusstormAs the MSM scurry's to hold the crumbling walls of thier Kremlins' together, we NEOCON's can sit back and savor the fruits of our victory... Next up? The Universitys...
One of her many problems
March 15, 2009 - 09:08 ET by Deskpilotis that she doesn't grasp the concept of the "Drive-By Media," therefore, she can't make the correct comparison to the "Drive-by Pundit." The concept of the "Drive-By Media," has been well explained by the Maja-Rushie himself.
My interpretation goes something like this:
The media, in it's innate desire to splash the news with attention grabbing headlines and sound bites, never gives you the full story. There is no, and has never been, an analysis of the facts surrounding a story. They can never link s series of events together, and see a pattern develop. They constsntly live in the here and now +/- 30 minutes.
Here's a perfect example: (Bold emphasis mine)
HEADLINE "Buffett's Berkshire stripped of 'AAA' credit rating"
SUB Headline: "The downgrade is another setback to Buffett coming a day after the billionaire lost his position as the world's richest man to Microsoft."
STRIPPED is a powerful statement when all Fitch did was downgrade, by small increment, Buffets' rating in the system.
Another key element that the Drive-By Media uses is only using longer sound bites from those on their side of of an issue, while an opposing voice is lucky to get half a sentence cut into the package, and it's usually taken out of context.
Editing is a powerful tool in the Drive-By's arenal. Witness the broadcast to the uneditted version of Charlie Gibsons interview with Sarah Palin. A hatchet job if ever there was one. Only one message here from Charlie and ABC: Character Assisnation of any Obama competition. Right from Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. Anything less that a full magazine unloaded on Palin would have been viewed by the rest of the media as Charlie going soft.
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read it in English, You're welcome - Deskpilot, AM(H)1 (AW), USN (Ret)
Sorry, dp, but if Berkshire
March 15, 2009 - 09:31 ET by motherbeltSorry, dp, but if Berkshire Hathaway was downgraded from AAA to AA, it was indeed "stripped" of its AAA rating. (to divest of honors- Merriam-Webster online).
AAA is an honor, isn't it, reserved for the best?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
ratings
March 15, 2009 - 09:37 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsAAA is NOT an honor, it is a RATING. There are strict guidlines for financial ratings.
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The point deskpilot was
March 15, 2009 - 09:49 ET by motherbeltThe point deskpilot was making was that the rating was not "stripped" it was downgraded.
Isn't it an honor to have the highest rating? I'll bet Berkshire Hathaway considered it so.
It's a difference without a distinction. It's not worth arguing about all day. If you and/or deskpilot disagree, we will agree to disagree on the semantics of it.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Libs like her obsess about
March 15, 2009 - 09:12 ET by rbosqueLibs like her obsess about race, statism as a solution to everything, and the "evils" of capitalism even though it is far and away the BEST economic system in the world. She and the rest of the sheltered and out of touch "elite" need a reality check by living in a third-world country for awhile. Maybe her views about what it is about being an ordinary American will be changed.
Newspapers are a huge
March 15, 2009 - 09:19 ET by MidAmericaNewspapers are a huge carbon footprint operation. If obama gets his Cap and Trade carbon fraud scheme instituted, newspapers will all be gone. Every last one of them.
CAP & ENSLAVE...
March 16, 2009 - 22:59 ET by danybhoyNewspapers are on life support now, they will be gone in a few years in America. It is the rest of the people who build anything, you know, productive people. The greens will eat the blue collar, industrial union types. You are a union guy who works in heavy industry, & you vote for straight ticket Dems, you are voting yourself out of a job. The "environmentalist" eco-marxists are ruthless & don't care how many union jobs we lose, since they know who big labor supports, it does'nt matter.
"The Fairness Doctrine = Jim Crow laws for Conservatives". Jim Quinn from "Quinn & Rose"
trip
March 15, 2009 - 09:22 ET by owlpelletsKathleen needs to take a trip to the land of Iowahawk.
Don't blame me....I voted for Palin...
Geesh...
March 15, 2009 - 09:25 ET byForget about the content of this post -- do you even proofread these things before you post them? Typos, sentences that make no sense... There's a REASON why people like you can't get work at a real news organization, and it ain't 'cus yer too conservative.
What do they say about people who live in glass houses?
March 15, 2009 - 12:03 ET by WingletDriverYour second sentence is a fragment with no apparent reason for using an ellipsis. You also omitted the space before the ellipsis and the ones between the points. If your ellipsis was supposed to separate two sentences, there should be 4 points -- 3 for the ellipsis and a period. After the last point or period, you should have two spaces, not one.
I'm no grammarian, but please spare us the ill-written sanctimony.
Ohh puhLEAZE!
March 15, 2009 - 13:22 ET byI'm writing in a conversational tone, making no claim to be a "journalist". The Chicago Manual doesn't apply.
Half-baked Pi
March 15, 2009 - 13:26 ET by Free StinkerActually, you're acting like a tool.
Just sayin'
I have to act like a tool...
March 15, 2009 - 13:38 ET byIt's the only way I can fit in with all the real tools posting on this page.
sounds like you're
March 15, 2009 - 13:42 ET by botgsounds like you're disgruntled because your other NB account was blocked
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
Botg - I think you hit the
March 15, 2009 - 13:42 ET by Free StinkerBotg - I think you hit the nail on the head!
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
well Free
March 15, 2009 - 13:47 ET by botgi must give kudos to CL3X for her post below about the 40 weeks, first post
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
botg
March 15, 2009 - 13:51 ET by Free StinkerIndeed!
Chose does top notch work!
~Acts..like a tool
March 15, 2009 - 13:47 ET by choselife3xLooks alive and kicking to me. Checked his bio page.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
CL
March 15, 2009 - 13:49 ET by botgthis one is nothing like Acts
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
~Nope
March 15, 2009 - 13:53 ET by choselife3xJust an amusing confluence of word choice and timing.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Nah...
March 15, 2009 - 13:48 ET byOnly thing blocked is my brains. Cheesy "journalism" does that, ya know.
the lobotomy no
March 15, 2009 - 13:54 ET by botgthe lobotomy no doubt?
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
Now THAT's interesting!
March 15, 2009 - 13:56 ET byMy original post did not say "brains". It said "bowels". (Thus the cheese/blockage reference.) Does management take offense at the word "bowels"? Do they change content?
Half-baked Pi
March 15, 2009 - 13:58 ET by Free StinkerYou made what is referred to as a "Freudian slip".
HAH!
March 15, 2009 - 13:59 ET byTouche!
you sure there is a
March 15, 2009 - 14:00 ET by botgyou sure there is a difference?
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
Eh...
March 15, 2009 - 14:07 ET byFree Stinker TOTALLY beat you to it. C'mon, try to pay attention.
~Sorry Dull Tool
March 15, 2009 - 13:58 ET by choselife3xBrain is spelled b-r-a-i-n, not b-o-w-e-l-s.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
~Rusty tool
March 15, 2009 - 13:43 ET by choselife3xYou could use a turn in the sand blaster and some work with a file. Dull tool. Very dull tool.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
~Troll Alert
March 15, 2009 - 13:35 ET by choselife3xMember for 40 weeks and this is his first post. No run of the mill Loobie, folks.
Troll.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
I'm so flattered...
March 15, 2009 - 13:53 ET bythat you cared enough to look! Actually, I had no idea I'd registered here so long ago. Or that I'd never posted. Obviously I don't come here that often lol
Obviously I don't come
March 15, 2009 - 13:59 ET by BlazerObviously I don't come here that often lol
Hopefully this is a passing fad for you then.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Oh no...
March 15, 2009 - 19:04 ET byI plan to be a regular
Eat lot's of fiber if you
March 15, 2009 - 19:13 ET by BlazerI plan to be a regular
Eat lot's of fiber if you plan to be regular. Liberal Kool-Aid will back you up so far you'll start crapping out of the wrong end.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
AHHA!
March 15, 2009 - 19:37 ET byOh... haha... oh my... I wrote "a regular"... and you played on "regular"... oh god, that's so funny... HAhahahahHAAHHA....
Ahh...
eh.
Yeah!
March 15, 2009 - 14:01 ET by WingletDriverI'll ask again, what's that saying about people who live in glass houses?
Ummm...
March 15, 2009 - 14:06 ET by...they should shower with their clothes on?
Ok, it's been fun, but I gotta run. Latazzz...
~Don't forget to take
March 15, 2009 - 14:09 ET by choselife3xThe tattered remains of your dignity and self-respect.
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
Lol, cl3x ! I think you
March 15, 2009 - 14:12 ET by BlazerLol, cl3x ! I think you just destroyed the last of it right there.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
~We don't tolerate littering here
March 15, 2009 - 15:08 ET by choselife3xTrolls must clean up after themselves. ;-)
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
Eh?!?!
March 15, 2009 - 19:05 ET byTHAT "destroyed" me?! PuhLEAZE!!! My Grandma hurls harsher words than that! And she LOVES me!
~Jeez, dude
March 15, 2009 - 19:19 ET by choselife3xSorry about your Grandma.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
THAT "destroyed"
March 15, 2009 - 19:25 ET by BlazerTHAT "destroyed" me?! PuhLEAZE!!! My Grandma hurls harsher words than that! And she LOVES me!
Well she must since she provides the basement and all the Cheeto's you can eat.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Dude...
March 15, 2009 - 19:40 ET byCheetos are so 70's. It's all about the organic cheesy-poofs. I know all y'all are old, but geez, try to keep up.
Wha?
March 15, 2009 - 09:30 ET by dervishSo criticism of (obvious) bias in major-market media -- there's your "elite," sugar -- is going to put the "town crier" out of business? Give me a break. That's like claiming that raising questions about steroid use in the MLB is going to be the death of Little League.
Ms. Parker has worked in the Little League of journalism, and doesn't want to have to go back.
Says it all ...
March 15, 2009 - 09:31 ET by KHalpern" Kathleen Parker should look in the mirror and see just who is the "drive-by pundit." "
My sentiments exactly.
A "drive-by pundit" who, in
March 15, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Chris NormanA "drive-by pundit" who, in this case, apparently ran over a nail and wrote a flat tire...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Liberalism 101... It's not
March 15, 2009 - 09:34 ET by JerryLiberalism 101... It's not our fault for having liberal bias, it's your fault for complaining about our liberal bias.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
How is one supposed to
March 15, 2009 - 09:44 ET by Jack BauerHow is one supposed to respond to an article that makes no sense.
I hope she's not related to Dorothy Parker -- who at leats had the benefit of wit.
Some advice Kathleen
March 15, 2009 - 09:50 ET by acumenIf you find yourself in a hole, quit digging. - Will Rogers
"The Sims" is
March 15, 2009 - 10:00 ET by motherbelt"The Sims" is apparently
popular with women who can create a virtual doppelganger and live
happily in the suburbs. For millions of guys, WoW is a role-playing
game that combines fantasy with mythology. One can't help noting that
males and females acting out fantasies are drawn to roles frowned upon
in real life: suburban homemaking and warrior-hero play.
Parker apparently doesn't even know much about The Sims. In the game, both partners are usually given jobs, the better to accumulate money to buy more and better goodies. They are generally DINK's (double income, no kids.) If a player does introduce children into the mix, the kid is not parented past the baby stage. Once in school, if the kid comes home from school and the parents are at work, he/she just lumbers around the house unsupervised, playing games, watching TV, and eating snacks.
Hardly the "frowned upon" traditional suburban existence that Parker thinks women are fantasizing about. It's more like a feminist's ideal of marriage and family.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
It's About Time
March 15, 2009 - 10:01 ET by flyingmonkey20 years or so, Kathleen!!!
If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain
It appears to me that this has been going on for a long, long time. Too long!!! The Kansas City (Falling) Star has just announced another layoff of 150 people and I couldn't be happier. The "Purveyors of Liberal Propaganda" are finally getting their just desserts. I'm just sorry it took so long.
Buying a newspaper is like paying somebody to lie to you. Boycott your local liberal newspaper.
K. Parker, you ignorant slut -
March 15, 2009 - 10:01 ET by mytwocentsAs Will Rogers said, "Is isn't what you don't know that hurts you. It's what you do know that ain't so."
I am SO tired of these tougue-waggers.
Busted! Ok guys. It was nice while it lasted.
March 15, 2009 - 10:53 ET by JWFYou shut down the servers. I will get the lights.
Who is gonna rename the website to www.theKathleenParkerLoveProject.com ?
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Denial? Naw...
March 15, 2009 - 11:06 ET by Bill W.Simple. These left-wing pundits don't know that they don't know. They are all living in Flatland.
Yesterday's LA Times (read it online) had two supposed "news" stories
that were actually opinions pieces on the demise of talk radio in the
state.
Our lovable Sacramento Bee ran Parker's column today. I read the first couple of paragraphs (we ONLY take the Sunday edition for the ads) and quit. The Bee continually "editorializes" on the front page. They are either ignorant or they know exactly what they're doing. You pick. 48% of their readership vote Republican. Do they care? Nope. Then they wonder why their circulation and readership are plunging.
And, on. And, on.
Parker's window of
March 15, 2009 - 11:42 ET by Chris NormanParker's window of usefulness as a "conservative" critic of conservatives for her new liberal masters is closing rapidly. She reminds me of Arianna Huffington - when she began her transformation from "conservative" to rabid liberal. Once Parker's usefulness as a fifth columnist is through, she will emerge as just another generic liberal writer.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Agree, Chris - Just as we watched the msm leave their
March 16, 2009 - 21:08 ET by Cape Conservativefavorite maverick to fend for himself, KP's usefulness to the liberals is diminishing with each passing day.
As for me, after her attack jobs on Sarah Palin AND HER FAMILY, I have NEVER read another word from her...and never will!
It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams
Has anyone ever seen the
March 15, 2009 - 11:49 ET by TEHas anyone ever seen the "conservatives" (i.e., non-conservatives) that Chris Matthews promotes on his Sunday program? I haven't seen his show in a year or two, but Matthews is so stupid he would have militant, anti-conservative, Obama worshipping political activists like Kathleen Parker, David Brooks, Andrew Sullivan and Michael Smerconish on his program, and Matthews would actually portray such militant, anti-conservative, Obama loving political activists as "conservatives" who were evidently placed on Matthews' panel to provide "balance" to the three or four leftists that Matthews would also have on his panel. That guy is one stupid fool, but thinks he's half-bright.
Parker the last true Conservative!
March 15, 2009 - 11:53 ET by SterlingOh, I just simply love Ms. Parker’s well written articles. Is she not the last of the old school conservatives in the MSM? Drive by Pundits- what a witty little phrase but used to such devastating effects; yes it seems that she hit the nail squarely on the head.
Ms. Parker does bring up a very interesting point- that being that all of these blogs rely upon the print media for the topic of the day. When was the last time that Drudge or this great website had an original piece? Yes, the internet needs the print media- without the old guard there would be no investigative stories that expose the graft and corruption within the halls of power- here’s to you gum shoes everywhere.
"When was the last time
March 15, 2009 - 11:58 ET by Chris Norman"When was the last time that Drudge or this great website had an original piece?"
Why in the hell, would this website, that was designed to comment on bias in the media (including newspapers) have any reason to write "an original piece" - based on what? THAT"S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS SITE.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Chris
March 15, 2009 - 12:07 ET by SterlingIf Liberal Bias was such a rampant epidemic as this site claims it is- then it would be so easy to have an investigative piece about it. IE: The Dan Rather National Guard Hit piece that the Old Media uncovered. Once again the Old Media did the leg work to expose one of their own- why did this site not break this story?
You Just Don't Get It, do you?
March 15, 2009 - 12:22 ET by Chris NormanThe MRC - parent to this site - with Brent Bozell & Tim Graham - write exposes and books about the subject. However, this site was intentionally designed to post real examples of media bias for comment. If the thousands of examples of blatant bias are not enough to convince you, then I can only conclude you are not a reasonable person and are instead, just a liberal bias denier, unworthy for a reasonable person to engage with.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Who uncovered the fradulant memos?
March 15, 2009 - 12:25 ET by CobraMan"IE: The Dan Rather National Guard Hit piece that the Old Media uncovered"
WHO uncovered that? It sure wasn't the OLD media. Those memo's were exposed as frauds the same day they were submitted. It was the New Media that exposed those memos as frauds. It was Free Republic who exposed them.
"September 8, 2004 - Within 18 minutes of the end of the TANG report, posts from "Buckhead" appear on FreeRepublic.com, saying he thinks something is phony. Within a few hours, Buckhead is putting forth forensic analyses of fonts and proportional spacing, claiming the memos are forged and actually word-processed."
That's from your friends at the daily Kos.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Sterling, Maybe I'm
March 15, 2009 - 12:26 ET by hydrodynDMSterling,
Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but wasn't it websites like Little Green Footballs and Powerline that spearheaded the Rathergate story?
Also, your point about how websites like this depend on the MSM is, well, sort of stupid.
By your argument, firefighters and police officers should be viewed in an unfavorable light since, hell, they rely on the existence of accidents and crimes to do their job. Gee, why don't they come up with something original, or something?
And by the way, I'm pretty sure Mr. Bozell does post original pieces here on a pretty regular basis.
Nice try
March 15, 2009 - 12:35 ET by SterlingLittle Green Footballs- ha ha ha; that is a household name! I am sure so many people read about Rather there-well maybe 2 people the author and his mommy.
Someone sure know about them
March 15, 2009 - 12:40 ET by CobraManHere's the current stats for LGF:
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It sure looks like SOMEONE is aware of LGF, right?
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Sterling, Really? That's
March 15, 2009 - 12:42 ET by hydrodynDMSterling,
Really? That's all you have for a response? Derision?
You might actually want to look up how things transpired regarding the Rathergate before you make any more comments on this topic.
Because, honestly dude - you're coming across as a total moron.
LGF
March 15, 2009 - 14:14 ET by katainkentRatherGate - the comments are as much an interesting read as the article.
and Drudge
March 15, 2009 - 14:19 ET by botgdidn't he break something about some floozie named Monica?
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
that would be a yes.
March 15, 2009 - 14:26 ET by katainkentthat would be a yes.
Once again the Old Media did
March 15, 2009 - 12:29 ET by BlazerOnce again the Old Media did the leg work to expose one of their own- why did this site not break this story?
Are you freakin' serious? That story was busted wide open by
Charles Johnston of LGF, and a few other blogger's on the right who did
the research the msm refused to do. Once it got enough traction, the
old media had no choice but to report on it.
Like the old media you just gave kudo's to, maybe you should do some research before you decide to run with something.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Holy crap! Out of all the
March 15, 2009 - 15:12 ET by bretzysdudeHoly crap! Out of all the trolls that we have had, you are even more idiotic than guttermouth, and that's saying a lot! You need to understand what this web site is and what it does. And if you don't, GET OUT OF HERE!!!
nothing to see here
March 15, 2009 - 12:07 ET by botgjust the basic trolling of the troll
i mean really people is there anything in hermies post worth a response? it is all designed to get a rise and to get you arguing 'no the sky isn't pink' why bother? let this one return to the kosworld
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
botg, Oh, there will
March 15, 2009 - 12:24 ET by Chris Normanbotg,
Oh, there will always be at least one sucker here to take the troll's bait. Today I was Designated Sucker.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
The power of the Print Press
March 15, 2009 - 12:30 ET by SterlingWell how typical, you sir cannot argue the facts that make you feel so uncomfortable: ergo I am a troll from the daily kos- how original. I have always argued the facts and never attacked anyone with personal insults; yet each time I post, I am treated to a barrage of insults from you tolerant folks. The question remains open why did this great website not break the Dan Rather Story? Is it because the lack of journalist on the ground to cover these stories?
~Yeah
March 15, 2009 - 12:34 ET by choselife3xbecause the lack of journalist on the ground to cover these stories?
You mean like the in-depth work they did on Obama?
Hope and Change= Despair and Socialism
"I have always argued the
March 15, 2009 - 12:35 ET by hydrodynDM"I have always argued the facts..."
Says the guy who just claimed that it was the MSM that did the legwork on the Rathergate story.
The question remains open
March 15, 2009 - 12:36 ET by BlazerThe question remains open why did this great website not break the Dan
Rather Story? Is it because the lack of journalist on the ground to
cover these stories?
Hey, no need to beclown yourself any further.
We get it allready..........your a clown.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
lol lol lol hermie
March 15, 2009 - 12:40 ET by botglol lol lol
Parker the last true conservative --- lol
uncomfortable? --- lol
have you not seen the screencap? 'exposing liberal media bias' by definition this is a reactive site. -- lol
next you'll want to know why the Yankees didn't draft a quarterback .. .. ....
lol
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
Respond to the facts I gave you, hypocrite.
March 15, 2009 - 12:45 ET by CobraManYou insult someone for not using facts to debate you but refuse to respond to the facts I used to debate you. What a little hypocrite!
Oh, btw, NewsBusters didn't EXIST in 2004. Is that fact good enough for you?
"In August of 2005, with the assistance of Matthew Sheffield of Dialog New Media, the MRC launched the NewsBusters blog to provide immediate exposure of liberal media bias, insightful analysis, constructive criticism and timely corrections to news media reporting."
That' s from the About page, I suggest you check it out.
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Sterling, I'm waiting...
March 15, 2009 - 13:39 ET by CobraMan"The question remains open why did this great website not break the Dan Rather Story? "
Sterling, I've given you facts (like you wanted) to argue against your nonsensical statement (NewsBusters didn't EXIST in 2004). Are you willing to argue against this fact, concede that you were ignorant of this fact due to your lack of research (something you apperently abhor), or are you simply going to hide from us now?
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For the whiny Sterling
March 16, 2009 - 15:36 ET by UnsaneI have always argued the facts and never attacked anyone with personal insults; yet each time I post, I am treated to a barrage of insults from you tolerant folks. Yeah. You NEVER EVER resort to stereotypical, hateful descriptions of conservatives. Remember your saying that conservatives only like Sarah Palin "because they need a mommy figure"? THAT'S just for starters.
To see you whine about how these mean, evil Rightists are picking on poor, defenseless little Sterling is just simply laughable.
You have never argued facts on this site, not once, from what I have seen.
The question remains open why did this great website not break the Dan Rather Story? Is it because the lack of journalist on the ground to cover these stories? This truly great website was not launched until August 2005. The nonexistent cannot cover news stories. Can we blame CNN for not covering, for example, Nixon's resignation for office?
Why is the print press facing such an ugly demise? One, simple, tiny, little word.
Content.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I'm beginning to get a tiny
March 15, 2009 - 13:25 ET by motherbeltI'm beginning to get a tiny flicker in the back of my brain that wonders if Sterling isn't just the latest incarnation of Leon, AKA Hater, AKA the Gunslinger, etc.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
mb, funny how Mr. I just
March 15, 2009 - 13:29 ET by Blazermb, funny how Mr. I just want to argue the fact's, strangely went m.i.a all of a sudden when the fact's started gettin' argued, ain't it. : )
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Possibly a Poser looking for attention?
March 15, 2009 - 13:31 ET by CobraManI'm beginning to think that Sterling is a Liberal Poser who makes nonsensical posts in order to generate attention. I don't think Sterling actually believes what he is posting, he just craves the attention his trolling brings to him
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Regardless of what or who he is, he's succeeded . . .
March 15, 2009 - 13:34 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . . in generating attention.
Great news
March 15, 2009 - 12:17 ET by zachlindThis is great news, Kathleen Parker complaining about “us”, “non-journalists”. This is progress. I’ve been pounding on Ms Parker for over four months with messages to her and her publishers with no response. This post by Tim Graham tells me us “non-journalists” are making a difference. If she’s worried about the financial health of newspapers then she’s worried about her future, and that's good. According to a couple of Texas newspaper columnists Ms. Parker and the infamous Peggy Noonan have taken the term groupie to a new level with their infatuation over the new president. In these columns these two are often referred to as the “Obama Promotion Twins”.
Non-journalists? That's rich. . . .
March 15, 2009 - 13:32 ET by CKA in Red State USAHaving been a newspaper reporter once and still involved in journalism, it's truly puke-inducing to see how she, of such bias and ignorance, would resort to such childishness.
Typical response, though, from someone with such apparent thin skin and questionable talent.
And from someone so thoroughly washed in the intellectual, mental and spiritual bankruptcy of Barack Hussein Obama.
Oh, and about the failure of newspapers?
Perhaps if they would get off their biased high horses and actually report the news, serve their readers and stop trying to be the news, maybe, just maybe, they might stand a chance.
But, then, given how they have aided the Demockacrats/Dementocrats and their allies in teachers' unions and so-called "higher education" in dumbing down America, I'd say they're just reaping the harvest they sowed a long time ago.
They'e embarrassments to real journalists everywhere.
Furthermore...
March 15, 2009 - 13:52 ET by Bill W.I graduated with a degree in Journalism in 1970. I can honestly say that the content, quality, and style of today's accepted, mainstream (you pick the medium) "journalists" pale in comparison to the "non-journalists" Parker derides.
Again, they don't know that they don't know.
And, Sterling. You can disagree if you want to and for whatever reason you choose. It's just your opinion, not a fact. Bias in the media is most definitely to the Left. Have a nice day.
Sterling
March 15, 2009 - 12:28 ET by flyingmonkeyThe Dan Rather hoax was exposed shortly after it aired by a fellow named Johnson on his website - Little Green Footballs. The MSM had no choice but to go along.
Hell, even Bill Clinton admitted his affair when the DNA results came back. Proof is proof!!!
Proof ain't proof to liberals and leftists. You should know that
March 15, 2009 - 14:03 ET by CKA in Red State USAThey're small-mindedness doesn't allow the light of truth to penetrate either their ignorance or biases.
Keep your damn opinions
March 15, 2009 - 12:29 ET by slickwillie2001Parker is clearly an idiot. She submits that the alternative media is killing newspapers, but the primary driver of hits on newspaper stories IS the alternative media. When a blog, or a news posting site like Drudge, or a forum like this one link to an article, that drives traffic to the source. Do you know what a link on Drudge can do to your traffic volume?
Here's my idea for a newspaper, -get rid of your damn opinions. Sell me a newspaper that is pure news reporting by pure news reporters with the bias ruthlessly rooted out. NO OPINION. News, especially local news, has value, whereas opinions are a dime a dozen. I don't value the opinion of my barber any less than those highly paid columnists at al New York Times. Get them out and the paper will balance itself, and drastically cut costs.
Parker is a fake and fraud,
March 15, 2009 - 12:36 ET by msh1973Parker is a fake and fraud, she is no longer interested in the truth. Most newspapers aren't even worth the paper they are printed on. I stopped reading our local paper a long time ago.
One question...
March 15, 2009 - 12:46 ET by jawebster1who is responsible for labeling this woman a Conservative? She is no more Conservative than my cat. I know Conservatives, Conservatives are friends of mine and Ms. Parker, you ain't no Conservative! Jim Webster
Another Theory: Could Ms.
March 15, 2009 - 12:54 ET by Chris NormanAnother Theory:
Could Ms. Parker have been offended by the bashing she's been taking by real conservatives on these blogs - especially this one - for her selling out for liberal acceptance? Could that help to explain her lashing out at us, writing a completely otherwise nonsensical column?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
You may be completely on target. She's done it before. . .
March 15, 2009 - 14:01 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . .with her screeds on Sarah Palin and those who she represented (e.g., Joe the Plumber, etc.), as well that post-election blaming Christians for the Republicans' loss last November as well as being the millstone around the party's future.
Good observation about Parker.
Thanks. There's got to be a
March 15, 2009 - 14:23 ET by Chris NormanThanks. There's got to be a reason she would write such drivel - even for her. A lot of times, it's just lashing out in desperation for retaliation. She did her reputation no favors with this totally non-thought out junk.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Thanks
March 15, 2009 - 13:00 ET by Kat Outta the BagWhy, thank you Ms. Parker for not giving me credit for thinking for myself. I don't listen to Rush -- I don't even know what station he's on in my area -- and yet I'm disgusted with newspapers who feel the need to put their own spin on every story they deem worthy of my reading. Now, how did that happen?
Save me...save me from tomorrow. I don't want to sail with this ship of fools.
~World Party
With apologies to Dorothy
March 15, 2009 - 13:01 ET by Jack BauerWith apologies to Dorothy Parker (no relation)
With apologies to Jack
March 15, 2009 - 13:09 ET by Chris NormanWith apologies to Jack Bauer
Conservatives seldom give passes
to Faux Cons who are really just asses*
*the Democrat kind :)
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Chris -- ha ha. Did Dorothy
March 15, 2009 - 13:35 ET by Jack BauerChris -- ha ha. Did Dorothy say anything else? They're the two I know!
Jack,
March 15, 2009 - 13:47 ET by Chris NormanThere are two good ones I know off the top of my head:
Reviewing an early Katherine Hepburn performance, Ms. Parker wrote: "She ran the gamut of emotions from A to B".
And when a rival and her arrived at a door at the same time, her rival stepped aside and said, "Age before beauty", to which Ms. Parker responded, "Pearls before the swine" and went inside...
I love the book, "The Portable Curmudgeon". :)
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Desperation At The Bottom
March 15, 2009 - 13:10 ET by rammingspeedI agree that Kathleen Parker is desperate to please the liberal controllers of the newspaper media. Her livelihood depends on it, and now that the political left is in control, she can be wiped out like the rest of those who anger them.
Also, she was a faux conservative all along, and her true colors are coming out now that she's obviously afraid for her future.
The phonies are squeezed out like a boil, the ooze and pus is an ugly sight. Kathleen Parker, you are an ugly sight.
Faux conservative is a politespeak for liar. She's also a . . .
March 15, 2009 - 13:22 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . .a coward, it would appear.
Nothing new among her tribe in the advocacy/adversary media, though, is it?
from a non dittohead
March 15, 2009 - 13:13 ET by katainkentI hope all the biased mainstream newspapers, radio stations and publications fail.
Hey, stop calling Parker a "pseudo-conservative." She's a ...
March 15, 2009 - 13:20 ET by CKA in Red State USA. . .liberal/leftist wearing some very worn-out conservative trappings.
As she hated and was/remains jealous of Sarah Palin, as she was and remains hateful of God and Christians, she hates Rush and those who might listen to him.
Why the hatred?
It's a natural response from those, when confronted with truth or something bigger than themselves, recoil in horror and then blame those with whom they disagree.
Parker has NO credibility left with conservatives.
His comment was deleted
March 15, 2009 - 14:04 ET by CobraManSterling's comment was deleted, so I'll respond to it here:
"Was the MRC around in 2004?"
Sure, move the goalposts when you can't score. Typical of a loser. Your question about "this website" referred to NewsBusters, not the MRC. The MRC has its OWN website, as you well know.
"the old media the time to look up allegations and present them in a credible way"
You're wrong, the FACT is that the "Old Media" simply repeated the research that others in the New Media completed LONG before the story "broke" in the press. They even quoted the research done by others in the New Media! You just can't admit this.
So far your batting .000. Care to try for a negative number?
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Censorship?
March 15, 2009 - 14:07 ET by SterlingDoes it not make you wonder why my comment was deleted? It seems that someone wants to keep me quiet.
Tell the truth
March 15, 2009 - 14:09 ET by CobraManTell the truth, don't insult people, stick to the topic, and then maybe you won't get your posts deleted.
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Where was the lies or insults?
March 15, 2009 - 14:12 ET by SterlingHere is my post you judge:
Was the MRC around in 2004? Well according to Mr. Graham it has been around for 20 years… is not Newsbusters and off shoot of MRC? Where was this great think tank at during the Rather fiasco?
As to arguing the facts well here is the facts… the old media the time to look up allegations and present them in a credible way. FreeRepublic is full with a bunch of wingnuts who consistently get their stories wrong. Did not you all deride those wretched Kossacks for printing rumors about Mrs. Palin and argue that MSNBC was taking their stories from this site. The argument that I remember was that the journalistic integrity of MSNBC was suspect because they did not do their diligence in investigating the story authored by a bunch of wingnuts. Now who is being the little hypocrite?
As I have stated before without the old media websites like these will have nothing to talk about. MRC and Newsbusters need these outlets in order to survive. When the old media dies- so will sites like this.
moving the posts
March 15, 2009 - 14:15 ET by botgendlessly there Hermie, you've already been answered, time to move on dude
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
As I have stated before
March 15, 2009 - 14:19 ET by BlazerAs I have stated before without the old media websites like these will have nothing to talk about.
And that's when we'll break out the victory cigar's and cognac.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
You don't argue, you deride
March 15, 2009 - 14:19 ET by CobraManYo don't argue, you deride. You call website "wingnuts." That not arguing a fact, is it? There's a difference between arguing facts and using derision in order to silence the opposition.
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Answers to questions
March 16, 2009 - 15:41 ET by UnsaneThe MRC was founded in 1987; NB was started up in August 2005. (You would think that, with your addiction to "the facts", you would know how to find "the facts". But clearly you do not.)
Unfortunately for you, if you want the MRC to go away, the solution isn't "the old media goes away". The solution is that either the media becomes objective OR the media declares their biases up-front much like The Economist does in each edition. THen, and only then, would the MRC have a reason to fold. Til then...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Tarnished Sterling
March 15, 2009 - 14:12 ET by Free StinkerIf we were to follow Sterling's logic (such as it is), Saturn was building cars back in 1930 because GM was in business back then.
I am deeply troubled by this censorship
March 15, 2009 - 14:15 ET by SterlingCall me what you want- but at least I never try to censor my detractors.
aw did hermie get to stand
March 15, 2009 - 14:18 ET by botgaw did hermie get to stand in the corner?
censorship? --- please you were regurgitating the same bull from earlier
you weren't censored you were warned
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
It seems that you folks are as bad as the Obamists on google
March 15, 2009 - 14:25 ET by SterlingWell anyways I think that I am done here for awhile. Obviously, you right-wingers cannot express your arguments without deleting rational arguments. I merely pointed out the hypocrisy. I challenge anyone to find any post authored by me that attacked anyone. I have been threatened with being shot, I have been bullied, and I have been called gay, stupid, and a coward. It seems that the only angry people that I have encountered are the ones on the far right. Too bad- I did enjoy the lively debate. Perhaps when some become more tolerant of others political philosophy I will return. Enjoy living in your little bubbles, friends. Until we meet again; Ta Ta
Well anyways I think that I
March 15, 2009 - 14:28 ET by Free StinkerWell anyways I think that I am done here for awhile.
While I hope that is true, I bet you're just getting out hopes up until you can come back with more talking points.
lol
March 15, 2009 - 14:32 ET by botglike NB has excluded an entire topic of discussion
generally your posts beg for derision as there is no point in dealing with the the foolishness of the assertions (why doesn't NB do investigative journalism--note the purpose of the site to expose liberal media bias) as i mentioned earlier do you ask the Yankees why they don't play football
sheesh
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
You need to present a RATIONAL agrument
March 15, 2009 - 14:41 ET by CobraManSter, you need to present a RATIONAL argument. You didn't do this by claiming that sites like Free Republic doesn't offer competent , researched, and credible information. The fact is that site lik Free republic and NewsBusters can, and has, disseminate credible information worldwide, something that was only available to the Old Media.
The Old Media's monopoly on the mass dissemination of information is over. I suggest you learn to deal with it.
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Well anyways I think that
March 15, 2009 - 14:48 ET by BlazerWell anyways I think that I am done here for awhile. Obviously, you right-wingers cannot express your arguments without deleting rational arguments.
Yea that's rich there moonbat. Have an opposing opinion on any leftist blog and you won't get jumped on you'll get banned outright.
Free speech to the tolerant left is free liberal speech and no more, so don't try and come here with your holier than thou crap,we ain't buyin' it.
You wan't to take the passive agressive approach fine, but I seriously doubt you take that same approach when shouting down wingnut's on your favorite socialist regressive blog's, when the number's are more in your favor and someones got a quick finger on the ban button, so no lefty's tissue paper feeling's end up getting hurt when one of us takes a pee in your Kool-Aid.
Oh yea, don't let door hit ya', where the good Lord split ya'.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Banning yourself now?
March 15, 2009 - 14:47 ET by CobraMan"Well anyways I think that I am done here for awhile."
Ster, are you banning yourself now? Talk about self-censorship! I wonder if you'll go to your favorite left-wing site and complain about how you've been banned at NewsBusters? I would hazard a guess that you will.
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The US Supreme Court
ciao
March 15, 2009 - 14:49 ET by katainkentNo, you insult them
March 15, 2009 - 14:23 ET by CobraMan"but at least I never try to censor my detractors"
No, you just insult them in order to avoid debate.
You're not troubled by censorship, you're troubled that you're not allowed to censor THIS site and others like it.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
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Unless you're a fetus.
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cobra
March 15, 2009 - 14:26 ET by botghe so much sounds like an obnoxious 13 year old once Mom gets fed up with the BS
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
From Sterling:
March 15, 2009 - 14:46 ET by Kat Outta the Bag"Call me what you want- but at least I never try to censor my detractors."
So you're not an advocate of the Fairness Doctrine like some liberals are?
Save me...save me from tomorrow. I don't want to sail with this ship of fools.
~World Party
maybe the site wants to
March 15, 2009 - 14:13 ET by botgmaybe the site wants to stay on topic and not get trolled with baseless BS?
maybe you need to think about what you are really doing. maybe you blame the cops when you get a speeding ticket?
Shakespeare is pretentious crap ---- poptech
Buy our lies, dammit! The
March 15, 2009 - 15:35 ET by wiwfBuy our lies, dammit!
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
Ya' know Kathleen, at
March 15, 2009 - 15:42 ET by BlazerYa' know Kathleen, at least The Titanic didn't creak and groan as much as you guy's are when it was on it's way to the bottom.
Go down with some dignity, dammit.
and stay down.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
No mystery here. Kathleen
March 15, 2009 - 18:08 ET by fitzfongNo mystery here. Kathleen Parker, like Meghan McCain (not to mention David Frum, David Brooks and Ross Douthat), is an empty-headed bimbo who's far more opportunistic than intelligent. It's pure calculation. The only way to advance her professional profile is to position herself as a "conservative"...effectively, she's "conservative" because she says she is...the definition of conservativism is a moving target to suit her ambitions. As a "conservative", she can claim to represent conservatives against more traditional (i.e., legitimate) conservatives for the benefit of liberals. She'll occasionally get invited to run the predictable talk show circuit to get praised by ignorant riff-raff like Chris Matthews, Jon Stewart and Bill Maher. It's the Scott McClellan approach: whore yourself out to get noticed. But as Scott McClellan learned (and McLame's daughter and Kathleen Parker will eventually learn)...
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
That quote by Winston Churchill...
March 16, 2009 - 19:48 ET by jawebster1explains why his bust was returned to the UK by the Obama administration. They can't stand the truth! Maybe the UK should send us a bust of Neville Chamberlain. I'm sure Obama will find an honored place for it, right next to one of his own. (I own a bust of Ronald Reagan!) Jim Webster
Self-immolation remains one of newspapers' great strengths...
March 15, 2009 - 18:44 ET by ThalpySelf-immolation remains one of newspapers' great strengths, so Dittoheads are not required. Even a certifiable airhead like Kathleen Parker should know that. But then, she doesn't know that you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows; she thinks you need journalism major.
Rather pathetic sight these
March 15, 2009 - 19:20 ET by RR GOPRather pathetic sight these journalists attacking what they can't control. I think that what we see on sites like this and the success of Conservative radio and Fox News is more of a symptom of their demise, but also certainly a cause.
If they didn't stand with the far Left to a man (and woman) they wouldn't be in the fix they are now.
They are getting what they deserve and stuff like this certainly isn't going to help them.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
MSM gamble and LOSE
March 15, 2009 - 20:22 ET by TN Momthe Internet can't quickly enough fill the void created by lost newspapers.
Oh yeah? I get ALL my news from the internet; without the liberal bias. I get 'tommorow's headlines' within minutes, instead of waiting until, tommorrow.
The reason I went looking for an alternate news source was due to the heavy, cram-down-my-throat bias. The MSM took a gamble with their left-based bias. They lost.
→ Me too mom
March 15, 2009 - 20:29 ET by Cool ArrowI got sick of TV news because my city didn't have FOX news until 2000.
The NET was my source of info of necessity.
Obama is succeeding and it hurts
If it weren't for talk radio
March 15, 2009 - 21:53 ET by Rowaneand the internet the drive-by mediots would have it all to themselves, so of course they are fighting against them. They have done everything within their power, so far, to obfuscate the truth and make the news fit their ultra libtard opinions.
God Bless talk radio and the net for doing the job that the media is supposed to do.
CONservative Kathleen Parker
March 16, 2009 - 13:41 ET by AMR1960Hahahaha...What do these Liberals do? Draw straws...? Ok, so it's Kathleen Parker's turn to play at being 'conservative'. Oh my! These crypto Marxists & their comic antics. Will they ever stop thinking they fool anyone but themselves, flying these false flags?
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Long Live...THE REPUBLIC !
Gee, I can't wait until
March 16, 2009 - 18:32 ET by Clear thinkerGee, I can't wait until it's Michael Moore's turn to be a conservative.
Dump The GOP Before Libertarians Take It
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Dont insult us by calling this dyke a conservative
March 16, 2009 - 18:28 ET by Lord ErondLiberal wh*re
"To sin by silence when we should protest, makes cowards of men" -Ella Wheeler Wilcox
She's not bad looking...
March 16, 2009 - 19:33 ET by jawebster1too bad she's not a Conservative. Jim Webster
Conservative superiority? If you had any idea....
March 16, 2009 - 21:11 ET by MycosWhat drive me crazy about this debate over the relative merits of conservatism Vs liberals, is why there's any debate on the subject ---- at all! Because when we look at the research for insight into who is who and which personality shows traits that are hurting the culture and country, we see things like this report on an Oklahoma government website. "Conservatism is not the doctrine of the intellectual elite or of the more intelligent segments of the population, but the reverse. By every
measure available to us, conservative beliefs are found most frequently
among the uninformed, the poorly educated, and the less intelligent". (McClosky, H. Conservatism and Personality
<http://www.doc.state.ok.us/offenders/ocjrc/95/950725C.HTM>)
And if that wasn't enough, they add "It appears that conservatism has pathological dimensions manifested in violence and distorted psycho-sexual development"(Boshier,1983). This
is supported by a study conducted by Quincey in which there was a direct correlation between authoritarianism and sexually aggressive behavior. An investigation done by Muehlenhard revealed that rape justification and aggression toward subordinate individuals was much higher in traditional conservative
personality than not"
Now do you see the MSM telling us all that? No. But they could be. And you better believe that if Limbaugh and yourself had seen anything even remotely as damaging as this stuff, it would be all we heard about for days. But the reason the "liberal" media doesn't play this up is because they know that conservatives make up a significant portion of the buying public. IOW they cater to you just as they cater to everyone with the price of a paper in their pocket. But what is happening is simply that you can't handle it when the mdia says something you don't like. You react like children...which is actually much of the problem, your not being socially mature as others for reasons either to do with your upbringings or genetics. Somehow, the times that newscasters say bad things about liberals or Democrats, the source goes right over your head. But anything said nasty about conservatives has you seeing conspiracies and plots against you. And that is why conservatives are so very, very dangerous.
Don't belive me? Well!.... Let's skip over to Maryland U where DHS has empaneled a group of the worlds best social scientists to look at and determine where the next terrorist attack is likely to come from based on a populations political/ideological views. And from their reports it becomes immediately obvious that conservatives are the focal point of their research as well.
"Basic social, cognitive, and motivational differences may also explain why extreme right-wing movements are typically obsessed with purity, cleanliness, hygiene, structure, and order and why religious fundamentalism is so attractive to right-wing parties and followers in just about every nation stretching from North America to the Middle East." Osama Bin Laden is a RW conservative.
And speaking of American conservatives specifically, we get this: “We now take it for granted that political conservatives tend to be for law and order but not gun control, against welfare but generous to corporations, protective of cultural traditions but antagonistic toward contemporary art and music, and wary of government but eager to weaken the separation of church and state. They are committed to freedom and individualism but perennially opposed to extending rights and liberties to disadvantaged minorities and others who blur traditional boundaries. There is no obvious political thread that runs through these diverse positions and no logical principle that renders them all consistent."
So...what are we supposed to be arguing anymore? Apparently everyone from the penal system to Homeland Security is aware of the shortcoming (to put it mildly) of conservatism. And it's not an ideological difference. It's not just a different way of looking at things...no better, no worse than all the others. It is - in fact - a leading indicator of a aggressive, simple-minded louts who mean to make the rest of the world behave as stupidly and aggressively as they do....or else! That's not an opinion. That's the fact of the matter. So the argument is over. Now quit lying to yourselves about reality so you feel better about yourselves, and GROW UP!
Until we quit electing such misfits to public office that will serve as a signal that mankind is still in it's puberty and has a lot of growing up to do if we are to ever think of ourselves as a wise and noble species.
~Wow
March 16, 2009 - 21:16 ET by choselife3xSell crazy someplace else, dude. We're all stocked up here.
Hope and Change=
Despair and Socialism
Let me get this
March 16, 2009 - 21:49 ET by MycosLet me get this straight.... Someone who equates hope and change with despair and socialism, thinks I'm nuts.
I rest my case.
Btw. I included the links, but your noble free-speech advocate of webmaster seems to be clipping links. All of which shows exactly how you how you come to believe things thast are so far away from the reality of the situation that your oddness makes you dangerously violent. Look up at the posts and remember what is known about the psycho-sexual disturbance found in the RWA (conservative) personality. You see nothing of the sort like thewse responses here on liberal blogs. I'm about the most aggressive you'll likely ever run across.
One more try! (should be two links following this) http://www.doc.state.ok.us/offenders/ocjrc/95/950725C.HTM
http://www.wam.umd.e...
~Mycos
March 17, 2009 - 09:17 ET by choselife3xYou're so whacked you couldn't get a RULER straight. And the only thing 'resting' here is your cerebral cortex. As a matter of fact, it's flatlining. You should do something about that.
Mycos=Kook
Epic Utter Utter Utter Utter Devastating Fail. Massive Fail.
March 17, 2009 - 09:12 ET by JWFHe comes here to sell his sock puppet psycho babble on how conservatives have anger issues cuz mommy wiped their peepee's when they were three so they STRIKE OUT IN ANGER at the poor poor poor poor poor poor poor poor misunderstood meeky meekmeekmeek giving and giving and giving until their hearts just give out liberals.
Yet the sock puppet perfessor can't manage to use the button located on the upper right corner of the mouse.
your noble free-speech advocate of webmaster seems to be clipping links
Yea. Mommy prolly rubbed his peepee a little too hard during the washy bathy time and now he has ISSUES.
PLEASE MOMMIES OF AMERICA. BE KIND AND STOP CREATING ALL TEH CONSERVATIVES INADVERTANTLY AND ALL.
Oh god, I am going to cry again. It is what I do. I am a liberal and I FEEEEEEEEEEL, oh and I come up with psycho sexual babble to make me feel elite.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Wow look at me. I came up with all this stuff and I did not even have a study or tenure or nuthin. Newsbusters needs to pay me more.
Mycos, I'm so sorry you are Suffering so much...READ-UP
March 16, 2009 - 21:37 ET by upcountrywaterhere is some reading for you
"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals
relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our
freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book,
"The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness."
"Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal
responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government
meet their needs from cradle to grave."
Are Liberals Out of Their Minds? Why do modern liberals think and act
as they do? The radical left's politics and its destructive effects on
our basic freedoms have provoked many to speculate on what makes these
people tick. "The Liberal Mind" answers these questions. This book is
the first systematic analysis of the political madness that now
threatens to destroy the West's greatest achievement: the American
dream of civilized liberty.
GET A JOB!
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Opinions are not facts.
March 16, 2009 - 21:59 ET by MycosOpinions are not facts. Show me something from a peer-reviewed jourbal, and I'll read it. Until then all you have is other people like yourself trying to justify their beliefs by telling each other wehat they want to hear.
Here's something simple for you.
The Authoritarians <http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/>
Peer reviewed science from a leading authority who is quoted frequently by the counter-terrorism panel assembled by DHS (Maryland U link above)
Your original post was nothing but opinion.
March 16, 2009 - 23:01 ET by JWFIt is pretty much all you have. Don't lecture us about the difference between opinion and fact.
Peer reviewed journal? This is not science. It is politics.
You do not appear to be very serious here. You appear to be on a soapbox lecturing to the unwashed masses.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Somebody forgot to look up sock puppet.
March 16, 2009 - 23:19 ET by JWFHey Perfessor,
No matter how many times you put links in comments telling people to read your book, you will be ignored like all sock puppets.
You are a left wing loon and no one is reading your book, sock puppet.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Mycos...In-House Canuckastani
March 17, 2009 - 00:17 ET by AMR1960You just got to love some of these Liberal Canucks...They spend endless hours directing critique at the USA, compelled by a national dysfunctional jealousy.
Not only will tell us what's wrong with our politics...Mycos & his ilk never fail to point out the reasons we got ourselves into the mess...& reminding us how fortunate we in the US should be to have people like him, to keep an eye out for us all-Zzzzz...
___________________________
Long Live...THE REPUBLIC !
Funnier
March 19, 2009 - 11:00 ET by UnsaneEven funnier is a Canadian lecturing the United States on...anything. All I know is that Canadian Forces cannot project power without the United States, because the United States projects power every single day. Thus defending them and us.
Proof positive that ingratitude is alive and well.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Damn, that was one long non
March 16, 2009 - 21:41 ET by fitzfongDamn, that was one long non sequitur. Is that you, Fidel?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Oh perfessor! Yo Perfessor Sock Puppet! I have a thesis too
March 17, 2009 - 09:48 ET by JWFwww.jwfwantssometenure.com/mythesisonalltehliberals
I have a theory too based on 34 years of studies.
Why are all the homosexuals overwhelmingly pacifist to the point of having all teh readiness to surrender to our enemies.
They are overwhelmingly liberal and anti-war. Why is that?
It is because of all the wrong parts fitting. See?
Their entire worldview gets all screwed up because none of the parts fit.
You have one set that has outy parts that they try to put in exit only fittings.
You have another set that has no outy parts at all so they have to invent all the outy gadgets to use.
It really skews their world view so none of the defensive/offensive political parts fit as well.
Give me tenure and a high paying perfessorship now!
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
go back to airamerica
March 17, 2009 - 12:21 ET by katainkentwhere they might actually believe this cobbled together mess.
Lets look closer at these
March 25, 2009 - 16:14 ET by NL207Lets look closer at these pseudo intellectual references of yours.
McClosky, H
Boshier,1983 home page.
Quincey
Muehlenhard
An impressive collection of leftists. And we are expected to believe that any "research" they carry out will be free of their obvious and vitriolic personal biases against Conservative and Libertarian ideology?
I will explain to you why there is a debate, since you are unable to comprehend this on your own. All liberals, progressives, socialists, marxists, islamofascists and statists share one common thread, which is anathema to all true Conservatives: They believe the rights and powers of the collective are pre-eminent over the rights of the individual in all cases where these conflict. This is the definition of tyranny. Liberals and Progressives are tyrants who seek to impose the will of the collective upon the individual and are willing to use force to accomplish this aim. Conservatives and Libertarians reject tyranny.
This is why there is still a discussion.