Is there any political caricature more threadbare than casting the Republican Party as "the Confederacy?" CNN analyst Gloria Borger tossed that one on Thursday, with all its pejorative assumptions about hidden or not-so-hidden racial animus, noting New England states had no House Republicans.
Perhaps that's because a CNN panel was discussing RNC Chairman Michael Steele's promise to bring some hip-hop to the GOP, causing Steve Hayes to make hip-hop Hatch jokes:
WOLF BLITZER: What do you think about that, Steve?
STEPHEN HAYES, Weekly Standard: Well, when I heard him make that appeal to the hip-hop generation, I had this flash of Orrin Hatch on the Senate floor wearing the Flavor Flav clock around his neck. (LAUGHTER)
HAYES: It was really not an attractive picture. Look, I actually think he's right. I mean, it's good to reach out. And the thing that heartened me most in his comments that you just read was that, you know, the Republican Party needs to be a conservative party, it needs to stand on its principles. But, yes, absolutely they should find as many ways as possible to reach out and to sell the message in a different way -- to have different messengers and to be as appealing as they can to a broad section of the country.
BLITZER: As attractive as Michael Steele, Gloria, might be, to some, this might sounds like mission impossible.
GLORIA BORGER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, you know, it's very difficult, because right now, quite frankly, the Republican Party looks more like the Confederacy, Wolf, than anything else. I mean they have no Republican representatives in the House, for example, from the half dozen New England states. And they're trying -- you know, I give Michael Steele credit here. But there has to be a message beyond we voted 100 percent against the stimulus package and we're against President Obama.
This is a strange analysis as there are many House Republicans from Union states of the Midwest, and many more from the West -- not to mention that the Republican Party was founded on anti-slavery principles, while the solid segregationist south was a Democratic enclave. Borger needs to get a new cartoon. Steele's election alone suggest she needs a new template.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.
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Segregants=Future Democrats
February 21, 2009 - 18:03 ET by NortoThey will do anything rather than accept the fact that it was not Republicans who kept integration at bay until '64.
Norto, let's face it...
February 21, 2009 - 18:44 ET by Mother...Blacks 'self-segregate' now. Black mags, college, caucus et al.
Wrap your head around that 'un eh?
Mother... Yep. Yet we
February 21, 2009 - 18:56 ET by bigtimerMother...
Yep.
Yet we hear nothing of that.
The silence is deafening.
The silence is deafening because...
February 21, 2009 - 19:18 ET by Mother...Blacks are supposed to work the "victim" role to the umpteenth degree and to be painted as just as racist or worse would discredit their whole mantra of "poor, poor pitiful me." Some of the most racist people I've ever known are Blacks and Mexicans and they hate each other with equal venom.
Look at Africa? Black on black tribal crime is rampant and whattyaknow? Black on black crime is rampant here in the USA too. Hmm.
Blacks commit most of the crime and yet they are 'victims' if portrayed as part of the criminal element of society. Screw Bill Cosby's message of doing things on your own and working yourself up out of poverty and oppression...no, let's go straight to Whitey's jugular and get a Marxist/Socialist/Pinko loser in an empty suit into the prez role who will drain the 401k's of the hard-working productive citizens to give a hand-out to the sloth losers of society.
Because? God only knows...those who pay NO taxes deserve a tax break.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*ouch* I think I just busted a brain vein I'm so peeved.
Bingo. Self segregation,
February 22, 2009 - 00:08 ET by GregEBingo. Self segregation, and on top of that, if whites even tried to have a white magazine, college, caucus, etc, it would be demonized. I don't back any of that, I think it would be dumb, just as I think black this and black that is also dumb. Right to do it? Absolutely a right to do it. But there's a double standard, and you see it anytime the white version of something otherwise "black" is attempted. All are dumb, but all are free to do it..........well, not all actually are.
And as usual I have to qualify it, its not all blacks, its a majority. Many blacks also see those things as dumb.
Borger needs to get a new
February 21, 2009 - 18:07 ET by motherbeltBorger needs to get a new cartoon. Steele's election alone suggest she needs a new template.
Tim, Republicans are racist, Borger "knows" that....they only elected Steele to hide the fact that they are racist.....
They will never get a new template. Why should they? This one has served them well for so long....the fact that it's a figment of the imagination notwithstanding.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Seeing what you want to see
February 21, 2009 - 19:04 ET by KC MulvilleYes, I know that string of associations is illogical, but the media peddles these associations every day. Borger is an example. Foer her, the lack of northeast Republican senators proves that the GOP can't hack it in the "sophisticated" northeast. The GOP is therefore stuck in the "racist" South. It wasn't that long ago that liberals were confined to limited corridors along the coasts, and the vast majority of people lived in "flyover" country. These generalization had the same facts, and used the same illogical associations, but partisans peddled them to suit their own purposes.
I'm becoming ever more convinced that pundits don't reflect, they only react. The media doesn't give them time to reflect, so they rely on first impressions and pop off. They have all the intellectual usefulness of magpies squawking on the branches.
Perpetuating The Myth
February 21, 2009 - 18:11 ET by NortoDid I forget to mention?
I have told the story of my frat bro', Ron Brown many times, but in '60 at Middlebury, a bunch of white boys from mostly New England, unanimously initiated Brown(Clinton's Commerce guy) to a wasp frat along with Barry White, a Jew, and we were summarily dropped from the national of SPE.
Ron came to Maine with us for a Bates fball contest(Gumbel's school), and hardly a ripple was caused. That all occurred 4 years before Congress acted, but we never hesitated knowing the consequences.
Not to mention the various
February 21, 2009 - 18:23 ET by ApacheNot to mention the various Indian tribes that joined and fought with the confederacy. Then you also have the rather large element of the Union who didn't want to free the slaves exactly, they just wanted to save the work for whites. They wanted to ship slaves back to Africa and have whites take the jobs, which would require much greater pay. The south was the economic powerhouse of the time and this would bring them on par with the north. The War Between the States wasn't fought over slavery. It was just one element and mostly an economic element, as both the Union and the Confederacy were comprised of people who were products of their time. The soldiers in the Confederacy were not the rich plantation owners nor were they fighting so rich people could keep slaves. Slavery would have ended either way. The groups in the south that formed to end slavery for humanitarian reasons were sorting out ways of offering compensation to the plantation owners while the Abolitionists in the north could care less about the economic impact to the south which fueled a lot of friction. In short, Gloria is clueless.
Apache, Thank you!
February 22, 2009 - 13:43 ET by doug1950Just finished a book "The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Civil War" by H.W. Crocker III where he lays out from the earliest beginnings of the troubles between the North and South and it goes back decades before the War of Northern Aggression and the original root causes were States rights. Slavery was only a minor undlying issue and if left to their own it would have died out and many of the leading Southerner including Robert E. Lee and many of the other generals who fought on the side of the South. We have a tendancy to think of the U.S. as one but the people of that time thought completely differently. Yes, we were a "Union" but the folks back then thought of their home States as basically a country unto itself. The NE states were doing everything they cold to undermine the Southern States, economically and politically. The South just got tired of it and in accordance with the Constitution decided to remove themselves. Huge mistakes were made and the thing could have been over almost before it started with little loss of life.
The book is a great read and the irony I saw immediately is, nothing has changed. You have one segment of our society who wants to make all others submit to them and their political way of thinking. The South did have slaves but so did Washington D.C. and the North had child labor (often forced) in the factories and mills. Additionally, many of the problems that exist today in the Federal Gov't came about with Abe Lincoln's mettling and overstepping the office of Potus that still exists today. I bet few ever knew he had over 13,000 political prisoners locked up during the war. Those who disagreed with him and some of his actions.
→ Gloria Borger
February 21, 2009 - 18:27 ET by Cool ArrowAnd Gloria Borger knows what about being black, Republican, or the Confederacy?
More pandering from the left. Steele doesn't fit the Clyburn victim model so there's only one way to describe him.
Hey, did you see this cartoon
February 21, 2009 - 21:02 ET by legacyrepublicanHey Cool Arrow,
I think you inspired this cartoon with your tag line about the limbo.
→ Maybe so
February 22, 2009 - 20:32 ET by Cool ArrowI don't know how long I've been running my tagline. It came to me the first time I heard Bammy say "raising the bar".
Good cartoon. Maybe he'll pick up on my next one.
Gloria is RIGHT!
February 21, 2009 - 18:39 ET by SpaceManSpiffGloria is correct, but she doesn't even know it. We conservatives have much more in common with the Confederacy than the Democrats. Like the Confederates, we oppose a central government that we feel has grown too strong, too controlling, and too restrictive.
Of course, what she thinks is that we're racists and we want to tear the country apart. NOT!
Excellent observation, SpaceManSpiff!
February 21, 2009 - 23:45 ET by dborschjr68I'm sure you and I will take fire from this, and I'm sure others might think we are treading upon dangerous ground, but historically speaking, the Republicans/Conservatives do have a lot in common with the Confederacy.
Granted, we need to clarify this, and let others know that the Civil War was not originally about slavery, but State's Rights over Federal Rights, or, less government control of us as citizens.
Yes, yes, detractors will scream and whine about slavery and how the Confederacy was full of ignorant racists and such and so forth, blah blah blah, but let history clear the air and show that it wasn't about slavery as much as folks would like to think. It was about the fight against BIG government.
Please, anyone who is reading this who has the slightsest sense of historical accuracy, do not think I am endorsing slavery or any such asinine thing. That would be ridiculous. I'm simply agreeing with SMS here, as I believe he hit it on the head.
Now let the tar and feathering begin...
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets." Me.
Well, golly gee...I'll be
February 21, 2009 - 23:50 ET by bigtimerWell, golly gee...I'll be tarred and feathered with you.
You're not alone.
History has been so distorted
February 22, 2009 - 00:06 ET by cocodrieHistory has been so distorted that Srates Rights has been totally removed from the Republic. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton have become our foundind fathers with Muddy Waters Ross making our new flag.
May God have mercy on us.
Jesus Loves You
Amen coco...Amen.
February 22, 2009 - 00:14 ET by bigtimerAmen coco...Amen.
No tar and feathers here
February 22, 2009 - 05:59 ET by thebutlerdiditWe may be disgusting rednecks, Ms. Borger, but we are not narrow-minded elitists like you. Frankly, I love to be out in the country and see someone flying the Confederate Flag along with the Am. Flag. As for Steele's hip-hop comment, I think it was taken slightly out of context. He was being very tongue-in-cheek. So, is this what we have to look forward to? Because Steele is black they are going to parse his every word and action? Wouldn't it be nice if they did that for that Obama guy, too?
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Glorias in Love
February 22, 2009 - 13:31 ET by rpeeler42Don't be so mean to Gloria, after all, she just wants an opportunity to earn her Presidential kneepads.
Okay. I usually let you
February 22, 2009 - 13:20 ET byOkay. I usually let you race deniers have your fun without interruption. But something THIS STUPID has to be addressed.
"Granted, we need to clarify this, and let others know that the Civil War was not originally about slavery, but State's Rights over Federal Rights, or, less government control of us as citizens."
Satan must have whispered that to you but it seems you were dumb enough to believe it. The civil war was "ORIGINALLY NOT ABOUT SLAVERY BUT ABOUT STATES RIGHTS"? States rights to do WHAT? Own slaves! You unbelievable moron.
~Hello there, Acts.....like a tool
February 22, 2009 - 13:27 ET by choselife3xButler is offline right now, but I'll be happy to stand in for her. Who were you calling a moron, dipsh!t?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Why don't you mind your
February 22, 2009 - 13:42 ET byWhy don't you mind your freakin' business lady? You are one of the dumbest idiots ON this blog! So for you to take up someone else's cause is REALLY laughable. You can't read your own danged bible and you blame me for instructing you properly. You hound me from post to post though I NEVER address you initially, having concluded that my pearls and YOU have no relation. I "kicked the dust" off my sandals concerning YOU a long time ago. LEAVE ME THE FREAK ALONE!
You don't like what I post that much is clear. But have you ever seen me reply to something that you have written that doesn't involve an attack against me? No, that's because outside of your attacks you have never said anything I had the slightest interest in. I assume the converse is true. So why don't you get the hell off my back, MIND YOUR FREAKING BUSINESS and leave me the heck alone?
I tried to instruct you out of the goodness of my heart, actually I was trying to teach others, you just happened to be the numbnutZ that kept BUTTING IN and knowing NOTHING. Here's your exit card CHoose to Be Stupid, when you see my name, SCROLL DOWN, take a walk, take a breath and go elsewhere. Your intrusions into EVERY blasted conversation I have with someone else is annoying. But don't think you get the best of me. I've already won. Because each and every thing I have ever instructed you in biblically, is one hundred percent accurate. So, I don't even have to tell you again. I no longer have to cast my pearls before you, so GO AWAY. Leave me alone. Live in your unregenerated state until you die. But ONE DAY the things that I wrote to you concerning your lack of proper baptim (acts 2:38) and your lack of the holy ghost (acts 2:4) will be brought to your remembrance by the Lord of Hosts. Good luck at that point.
Acts . . . like an ignoramus
February 22, 2009 - 13:45 ET by Free StinkerActs . . . like an ignoramus
It is laughable for you to question any one else's smarts when you just claimed (yesterday IIRC) that Governor Sarah Palin does not understand the Constitutional role of the V.P.
As seen in the link, she got it right.
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
Okay dude your mothers the
February 22, 2009 - 13:52 ET byOkay dude your mothers the "ignoramus" not me.
THis is what Sarah Palin said......It's easy to hide behind lies when the truth is not before you.
PALIN: That’s something that Piper would ask me! … [T]hey’re in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
The Vice President "presides" over the senate in a CEREMONIAL ROLE that only gives him one vote in the event of a tie. He CANNOT "get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes". He does not control when or how legislation gets to the floor or into committee nor can he prevent the same from occurring. The V.P, outside of his one vote in the event of a TIE cannot tell one senator what to do, so being "in charge" is not accurate.
Acts . . . like a coward too
February 22, 2009 - 14:01 ET by Free StinkerActs . . . like a coward too
Okay dude your mothers the "ignoramus" not me.
Wow! You're too afraid to attack me directly now?
The V.P, outside of his one vote in the event of a TIE cannot tell one
senator what to do, so being "in charge" is not accurate.
Only if you think words don't have any meaning. Just because historically, most V.P.'s chose not to sit in the Senate chamber while in session, doesn't mean that is not their Constitutional role to be President of the Senate.
Now, when you can tell us how many tie-breaking votes John Adams cast
in the 1st Congress, come back and display some new ignorance.
Until then, keep on being abusive and cowardly. You seem to enjoy it.
"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media." -- Lowell Ponte
PRIDE PRIDE PRIDE
February 22, 2009 - 13:50 ET by cocodriePRIDE PRIDE PRIDE
Jesus Loves You
~Sorry, Acts....like a tool
February 22, 2009 - 13:53 ET by choselife3xThose aren't pearls, those are marbles. I suggest you gather them back up, as you clearly don't have any to spare.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Choselife3X
February 22, 2009 - 15:46 ET by CobraManChoselife3X,
It seems that Acts -like a fool has some, ah, issues with women. I wonder if, by constantly demeaning women, he's displaying a bit of denial for his homosexual tendencies? Hay, Acts, maybe it's time for you to come out of the closet.
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of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
~Cobra
February 22, 2009 - 20:38 ET by choselife3xI think you may be on to something there.....
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
What a hypocrite!
February 22, 2009 - 14:11 ET by CobraMan"So why don't you get the hell off my back, MIND YOUR FREAKING BUSINESS and leave me the heck alone?"
What a hypocrite! You attack others for their religious beliefs, demean and insult them when they disagree with you, and then complain when they say something YOU don't like! Do unto others as you would have then do unto you, you ignorant hypocrite!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Counter-productive name-calling
February 23, 2009 - 07:24 ET by JohnSawyerActs:
Your franticness and name-calling is counter-productive. I know it's easy to get excessively worked up, but you're working against yourself with that approach, even if some others tend to use it. The Bible has something to say about excessive self-righteousness, and I don't think Jesus would have won anyone over by calling them "numbnuts". It's OK to get properly worked up, but you're overdoing it. You should just make your points and not get personal. Don't buy into that downward spiral.
act
February 22, 2009 - 13:48 ET by doug1950I do not know how you can call yourself a Christian when you toss the name Moron and idiot around so much and so often. I have told you before, you remind me of a Pharisee more and more. Your understanding of the history appears to be somewhat limited to what you learned in school. Do you really think ALL those men who fought and died on the Side of the South were slave owners or ever had the idea they would own slaves. Less and 1% of the Southerner owned slaves and many of those who did, did not have vast quanities of slaves as Hollywood would have you believe. You need to go examine yourself, get back to us when you become perfect.
The problem is because you
February 22, 2009 - 14:00 ET byThe problem is because you don't even know what a Christian IS. Since you more than likely have never met an actual one. If the person you met isn't BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AND FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT evidenced by speaking in tongues as the Spirit gave utterance, they weren't Christian in the first place. And from your reaction and the reactions of others to these, as Paul called them, ELEMENTARY PRINCIPLES of the doctrine, the odds are high that you don't know any real ones.
JESUS called people "brood of vipers" called their mommas " cockatrices" and WHIPPED people like you who have no understanding of the plainly printed Word.
Getting "back to you when I become perfect" would imply that you, a poorly baptized unregenerated alleged christian with NO ALLEGIANCE to the word of God, is somehow something I need to aspire to. Hardly. Do you even know what "unregenerated" MEANS? If not hit me up with a private message and i will show you. Despite my harsh tone at being called an Ignoramus by someone who my CHILDREN know more than, concerning Christ, I am still willing to instruct.
Paging the "mod" squad
February 22, 2009 - 14:02 ET by QueenMumGive it up, Acts. Not everyone believes in your particular Biblical view. Get used to it. And if you're just visiting in order to convert the "unbelievers", don't be surprised if you wear out your welcome with the head "vipers".
Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of the tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men. - Ayn Rand
It's not "my particular
February 22, 2009 - 14:30 ET byIt's not "my particular biblical view" it's the "biblical view" of the Apostles. Pauls said that if you do not HAVE the HOLY GHOST you do NOT BELONG TO JESUS ( romans 8:9) Jesus said that if you are NOT BORN AGAIN, you can neither SEE nor ENTER into the kingdom of God. The APOSTLES didn't believe ANYONE to be "saved" who did not receive the Holy Ghost the same way that they did and this is how they got it! ( acts 2:4)
If you don't believe that you need the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues and that you need to be baptized in the Name Of Jesus Christ you are not Christian, you just think you are. If you think that "believing" in Christ is all you need to do then you are twisting scriptues till they cry because Jesus said that WHEN your "belief" reaches an acceptable level he will CONFIRM His word with "signs following" (mark 16:15-20)
You cannot be saved MERELY by "believing" because you have to "repent", without repentance no man shall see God!
2 Corinthians 7:10
Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.
Since you have to ALREADY "believe" in order TO repent in the first place and that only LEADS to salvation it is not in fact, salvation. That comes AFTER you repent because after you repent you will receive the Holy Ghost as Peter said so well in Acts 2:38.
There is a way that seemeth right unto a man but the end thereof are the ways of death.
There is a clear record of what does and does NOT constitute salvation in the bible. This is found in the book of Acts which chronicles the foundation of the church. The reason that the methods of the false chuches, i.e "JUST BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND YOU ARE SAVED NO EVIDENCE NECESSARY" is NOT sanctioned by God is because the devil believes ALSO. In regards to "just believe" the apostle James MOCKED this simplistic notion,
James 2:19
19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
The bible declares that the Holy Ghost IS the proof that Jesus will do all that He promised. Eph 1:13-15. It declares unlike false churches that you receive the Holy Ghost AFTER you believe, not WHEN you believe, which is key. This is why Paul asked the disciples that he met IF THEY HAD RECEIVED THE HOLY GHOST SINCE THEY BELIEVED. Most false churches couldn't even answer this question since they have NO CLUE as to WHEN or even IF they received it. But do not be deceived. The Holy Ghost is given FOR THE PURPOSE OF BEING PROOF, it's your fault if you follow those who say that there IS no proof that you have "the proof". Man that's cracked in the head!
The "deposit" the "guarantee" have no proof? Only Satan could come up with that.
2 Corinthians 1:21-23 (New International Version)
21Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, 22set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.
Your "deposit", your "guarantee" comes without proof? That's just sad, dude and not bible at ALL.
And you know thia, how?
February 22, 2009 - 15:06 ET by CobraMan"It's not "my particular biblical view" it's the "biblical view" of the Apostles."
And you know this, how? At what seminary did you study the Scriptures. In what denomination are you ordained? Just what IS your expertise in the Scriptures?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
I see our self-appointed savior is back
February 22, 2009 - 14:06 ET by CobraManHay , Acts, what denomination are you ordained in?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
~Denomination
February 22, 2009 - 14:19 ET by choselife3xCrazy Coots of Holier Than Thouism.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Chose
February 22, 2009 - 14:23 ET by Free StinkerMy guess on what English translation of The Bible they read?
The Per.
The Per Version. ;-)
~Free
February 22, 2009 - 14:28 ET by choselife3xROFL!
I think Acts...like a tool slipped on his marbles and knocked himself out.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Prove me wrong then oh,
February 22, 2009 - 14:31 ET byProve me wrong then oh, bible scholar.
~Acts....like a tool
February 22, 2009 - 14:39 ET by choselife3xDemons speak in tongues, too.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
What denomination?
February 22, 2009 - 14:46 ET by CobraManYou didn't answer my question. What denomination are you ORDAINED in?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Beware Conceit
February 22, 2009 - 15:27 ET by CobraMan"Prove me wrong then oh, bible scholar."
"Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? There is more hope of a fool than of him."
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Act ually
February 22, 2009 - 14:58 ET by doug1950I do know what a Christian is and its the Biblical definition not the one you use. It says you shall know them by their "fruits" and the fruit of the Spirit (Gal 5:22) is love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. Now, do you honestly think you are demonstrating the Fruit of the Spirit. You are probably the most angry, bitter, self righteous hypocrite I have ever seen trying to pass yourself off as the measure of what a believer or a disciple of Christ. Like I said, you are a PHARISEE. You can speak in tongues but without LOVE you are nothing but a noisy symbal. Jesus warned his followers about the leaven of the Pharisees, which he was referring to their "self-rightousness". Sweep up around your own door before you go judging others's walk.
Well stated, Doug
February 22, 2009 - 15:01 ET by CobraManThat was very well stated, and quite eloquent.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Cobraman
February 22, 2009 - 15:27 ET by doug1950Thank you.
You're welcome
February 22, 2009 - 15:29 ET by CobraManYou're welcome
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Acts
February 22, 2009 - 20:27 ET by sherylsimsThe first fruit of the Spirit is LOVE. I think you need to go back and try again. The only thing I notice from most of your posts is a distinct LACK of LOVE. Obviously the baptism thing didn't "take" and you need to try it again.
Oh. Sorry. I didn't see that someone else already covered that point.
Sheryl
February 22, 2009 - 20:40 ET by doug1950No, No, no need to apologize. Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses. You are indeed exactly right and you just comfirmed it.
You are a fool!
February 22, 2009 - 14:17 ET by CobraManYou ARE a fool! You have absolutely NO understanding of the Civil War and why that war was fought. I bet you didn't even know that slavery was already being phased out in the South BEFORE the Civil War began (slave owners couldn't compete against mechanization) and that there were Black Confederate Solders who fought alongside the "slave owners" because they believe in States rights and wanted to LIMIT the power of the federal government.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Did you know?
February 22, 2009 - 14:30 ET by CobraManSpeaking of Black Confederate Solders, did you know that the official policy of the Union Army was to kill all Black Confederate Solders and to take NONE as prisoners so that the idea that Slavery wasn't the issue of the Civil War would spread amongst the Union citizens?
Having Black Confederates as prisoners of war would have made people question the position that the war was to FREE those men, correct? Instead of taking Black Confederates as prisoners, like they did for the White Confederates, those Black men were KILLED when they surrendered, even if they were injured and no longer posed a military threat.
How does that fit into your false notion that the Civil War was fought to free the Black Man?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Because some slave , beaten
February 22, 2009 - 14:34 ET byBecause some slave , beaten down by life chose to fight with his former master only shows how depraved that former master was. It's called Stockholm syndrome. Chicken George from roots didn't want to leave once freed, so that's pretty silly to bring up. If you want to believe that only three whites owned slaves and you can't understand what the fuss was about that's your stupidity and your right. If you want to believe the racist historians who re-wrote their lies you will find them to be in the minority of historians.
But I really don't care about slavery or the civil war or sarah palin. I care about the clearly revealed word of God and what that does or does not constitute.
Leaving now, back later.
Yea, Right
February 22, 2009 - 14:41 ET by CobraManYea,, right, beat a man and then give him a gun. Put him and other beaten men together and give them a unit. Put that unit on a battlefield were they fight against the men who were trying to 'free' them. Then expect those beaten, enslaved men to give up their lives for the people who beat and enslaved them. That makes a lot of sense, NOT!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
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You're on the wrong website
February 22, 2009 - 14:47 ET by CobraMan"I care about the clearly revealed word of God and what that does or does not constitute"
Then I suggest you go to a religous website. This is NOT your platform to preach to the ungodly.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
You dont; even undserstand that!
February 22, 2009 - 14:56 ET by CobraMan"It's called Stockholm syndrome."
You don't even understand that! The Stockholm syndrome only lasts as long as you are held captive with no chance for escape, no chance for freedom. Once you even have a CHANCE for freedom, that syndrome disappears and is replaced with loathing for those who held you captive.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities
of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Acts 2_38...
February 22, 2009 - 16:54 ET by dborschjr68My name is Donald Borsch Jr, and I am the man you quoted in your initial scathing post, referring to me and those who think like me as "race deniers". I felt it appropriate to properly introduce myself, as you have sought to throw down some form of gauntlet at my feet.
Here it is: I do not care about your name-calling. I support your right to free speech, absolutely and without reservation. This web site has been the arena for a great many disagreements, true, and what a wonderful arena it is!
I do, however, take issue with your saying that, "Satan must have whispered that to you but it seems you were dumb enough to believe it." How dare you seek to make this a personal attack on my faith in my King and Master, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. By your childish and completely out-of-line accusation, you are implying that I am being mislead by the enemy. You have tried to make this a personal thing, and you don't know the first thing about me or Who it is I worship.
I don't mind you calling me an, "unbelievable moron". Sticks and stones...whatever. But no man or woman, this side of Heaven, will demean my relationship with Jesus by such audacious insinuations. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying such things. You are embarassing the faith with your pharisitical words and attitudes.
I will ask my King to forgive you, and I shall stand in intercession for you. You attacked a fellow believer with extreme prejudice, and this is an affrontage to my Father. Read these next words very very carefully: I have no wish to turn this into some kind of debate ot any such thing with you. This is a web site for clear, concise, and analytical comments upon the news events of our times. I have no idea who you really are, where you live, etc, etc, and I do not wish to know those things. I have read your ongoing war of words with others on this site, and it saddens me that it happens at all. In me you shall not find such a willing target.
To my other NewsBusters, let it be known that I will not pursue this discussion with Acts 2_38 any further. Thanks and God bless us all.
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets." Me.
dbor... Amen
February 22, 2009 - 17:14 ET by bigtimerdbor...
Amen
Robert Byrd
February 21, 2009 - 18:45 ET by zoro7957......................is of what political party?
Gloria seems a little pissed.
February 21, 2009 - 18:50 ET by supercon"But there has to be a message beyond we voted 100 percent against the stimulus package and we're against President Obama."
That's right Gloria.You guys own the stimulus.It's all yours sweetheart.
If what she said above is the Republican message then I guess that means the Democrats message is " We'll jam this package down your throat whether you like it or not"
Because with a name like Obama... you know it has to be good.
Politically, "they" own it,
February 22, 2009 - 00:57 ET by GregEPolitically, "they" own it, but in reality "we" own it. $787 billion, forced on us by Obama and the Democrat Congress. And thinking about it, in even more reality..........."we" and "they" (they in this line being our kids our kids' kids) own it, forced on us by Obama and the Democrat Congress. In less than 3 weeks, they've successfully sentenced 3 generations of people to increased taxes and national debts as far as the eye can see.
It was already enough under Bush and was against it, but as I have said to anyone complaining about Bush and the Republican Congress spending......."If you think Democrats will reign in spending, you are completely naive and dillusional, as they will do more of it, not less."
But they still don't get it!
February 22, 2009 - 03:44 ET by thebutlerdiditOr else they are being duplicitous. Being against the stimulus, or any of duh1's policies doesn't mean that anyone is "against" Obama. It is the same crap they tried to pull with the Rush deal, when he said he hoped Obama failed with his Socialist plans for the country.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Didn't Democrats win
February 21, 2009 - 19:24 ET by exLibDidn't Democrats win sweeping victories in the House, Senate and Yes, the White House on a platform of what?
We are not GW Bush. Anything Bush does we oppose.
Culture of Corruption, Pay-go, Get out of Wars, Fiscal "Responsibility", Accountability, Don't Give an Interview on Fox until after the Primaries.
How's that working so far....
Here in the Free State of Kansas
February 21, 2009 - 19:27 ET by ArminiusWe have two GOP U.S. senators and three GOP U.S. representatives (out of a total of four). The GOP has healthy majorities in both the state house and senate.
This state was started by abolitionists. Would Borger argue that we Kansans look like the Confederacy?
→ Not hardly Arminius
February 21, 2009 - 19:32 ET by Cool ArrowShe'd stand shoulder with Governor Sebaceous and Tiller the Killer, protecting a woman's right to see the baby's head before killing it.
What a bunch of
February 21, 2009 - 19:48 ET by Clear thinkerWhat a bunch of nimrods!
Another BIG Lie
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
This is the problem with
February 21, 2009 - 19:58 ET by fitzfongThis is the problem with identity politics: media and political strategists are so stuck on appealing to specific market segments based on the lowest common denominator...pop culture. Instead of trying to appeal to the intelligence of individuals who happen to be minorities by making more compelling ideological arguments, both parties end up pandering to groups of minorities like a bunch of corrupt college boosters trying to land a star player (whoring themselves out and promising all manner of handouts for their signatures). And since Democrats are better at pandering, they always land the big recruit. When Republicans employ the pop culture approach to attract market segments, they always appear stiff and uncomfortable (because it's so obviously dishonest)...and they just reinforce negative stereotypes. Whenever I hear Republicans suggesting that the Party needs to "reach out", it reminds me of pet owners who have to give their cats medicine by mixing it into their food...it's deceptive and largely ineffective (apparently medicine makes cat food taste worse...cat food doesn't make medicine taste better). And as far as the journalistic fraud that is CNN is concerned, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. It's about time the Republican Party said "screw the identity politics, let's beat them by better explaining our superior ideas".
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
fitz... I could not agree
February 21, 2009 - 20:07 ET by bigtimerfitz...
I could not agree more with any of your sentiments in your post.
If I hear 'we have to reach out' one more time too, I am going to explode.
When are they ever going to learn?!
I have been hearing this phony BS forever now that gets us nowhere no matter what you attempt to do...get on with a fight for this country you simpletons!
Before it is too late...if it isn't already!
Hear, hear!
February 21, 2009 - 23:47 ET by dborschjr68Bravo, fitzfong, bravo!
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets." Me.
If we reach out, they will
February 21, 2009 - 20:23 ET by mostlymoderateIf we reach out, they will continue to bite our hands.
No, the party that looked
February 21, 2009 - 20:34 ET by nadadhimmiNo, the party that looked like the Confederacy was, and is, the Democrats. They were called Copperheads back then and the Democrats were traitors to the constitution then as now. The Copperheads tried to undermine Lincoln at every turn, aided the Rebels and supported slavery to the end. Bull Conner in the schoolhouse door was upholding a long tradition of Dem racial discrimination. If you ask 100 blacks today what was the party of Lincoln, probably 95 would say Dem, because of educational revisionism by the teachers unions. Remember, Dem and Dum are only one letter off.
If the Obamanistas keep going the way the are...
February 21, 2009 - 20:39 ET by R D Helm...it won't just be the republicans that will look like Confederates, but entire states.
From what I have been hearing and reading, New Hampshire may well be the first state to tell Obama's emerging Imperial Federal Government to go pound sand.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
NH
February 21, 2009 - 21:02 ET by bigtimerDo tell...
Now that would be refreshing, more than that, for me, surprising.
You have a link Dave?
This is the first I have heard of this.
If true...I may get just a wee bit of a glimmer of hope...well, beside what Santelli did this week.
bt,
February 21, 2009 - 21:59 ET by R D Helmhttp://patdollard.com/2009/02/new-hampshire-fires-first-shot-of-civil-war-resolution-immediately-voids-several-federal-laws-threatens-counterstrike-against-breach-of-peace/
(h/t: http://giovanniworld...)
Interesting read.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Thanks Dave. Shall check
February 21, 2009 - 22:09 ET by bigtimerThanks Dave.
Shall check it out.
Read it Dav...from one of my
February 21, 2009 - 22:18 ET by bigtimerRead it Dav...from one of my favorite sites too, that obviously I haven't been to lately...I hope this is ratified, this was dated the fourth, so I will also try to remember to stay track of this, may other states follow....soon!
RD
February 22, 2009 - 17:26 ET by doug1950Thanks for the link.
Read the stark similarites to this one: It's a little older but profound.
http://www.civil-war...
Ahhh, New Hampshire...
February 21, 2009 - 23:50 ET by dborschjr68I am so in love with NH right now. Can you imagine if this works? Can you imagine the precedent it will be setting? I shall be watching this unfold with great interest.
"Liberate tutume ex inferis, liberal puppets." Me.
Repubs don't need hip hop
February 21, 2009 - 21:09 ET by jefflebowskiSteele should concentrate on bringing conservatives back to the Republican party instead of worrying about the skin color of those he seeks to bring in. I am not impressed with Steele so far.
Angry White Dude
http://angrywhitedud...
Jeff, I posted upthread about this
February 22, 2009 - 06:09 ET by thebutlerdiditfrom what I understand, Steele was kind of being tongue-in-cheek, and just riffing off the top of his head with this. It seems to be getting misconstrued that he actually wants to bring in hip-hop type attitudes. No worries, mate. He was just saying we want all to feel welcome. Perhaps he came across a little like a nerdy dad when he said it, but he is trying to be different. I have hope he will do well. At least he is trying to move the party. As well as Mike Duncan raised money for the Party, he took it back further in the dark ages than it was. He really perpetuated the old, white man, who is tech illitierate, and happy to be so. I met him once, briefly, and he is a perfect stereotype. Plus, I will give Steele the credit for getting out there and speaking. Duncan, and Mehlman before him, were like the invisible men. That is not going to help anything. I am willing to give Steele a chance, and try and help him. I have already noticed a difference when they have called from the RNC. They keep asking me tons of questions, what my ideas are, what I like or don't like, etc. That usually doesn't happen. It's usually, how much money are you giving this month? Oh, you have a question? I will write it down for some vague someone. And you could tell they didn't give a big old rat's a$$. Keep your fingers crossed..
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Liberalsim is a mental, intellectual and spiritual disease . . .
February 21, 2009 - 21:33 ET by CKA in Red State USACollectively and intellectually, these small-minded, mean-spirited, ignorant-of-history, arrogant dimwits cannot produce better dialogue.
They resort to mockery because they lack the intellectual horsepower to actuallys say something relevent or appropriate.
IF they knew any history, they would know of the slavemastery of the Democrats, PRIOR to the Civil War and since--as well as how the Dixiecrats and Democrats, generally, filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
And they might even know that during the Civil War, blacks even fought for the Confederacy.
And they would not make horses' patoots of themselves.
But, then, how can they not, given their dullness of wit?
BTW: Calling what they did "threadbare" does not begin to capture what Borger said. But HUTA does.
Let's see here...the
February 21, 2009 - 21:46 ET by RR GOPLet's see here...the Confederacy's Secretary of State for a while was a Jew (Judah P. Benjamin), one of their generals was an Indian (Stand Watie), they had several Roman Catholic generals, examination of state pension records have shown historians that there were thousands of black men that served in the Confederate Army, and the Confederate Memorial statue at Arlington shows without any doubt an African-American in uniform along with Confederate soldiers (oh, and that statue was made by a Jew).
So, what's their point?
Surely the Confederacy was dominated by WASPs, but so was the Union.
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Confederacy?
February 21, 2009 - 21:48 ET by pvoceWith all of this talk of "Confederacy" and north/south, I would think that there are people who are actually DESIREOUS of another Civil War...
Yikes! talk about being BLINDSIDED!
February 22, 2009 - 00:39 ET by AMR1960Oh MY!...
We never saw this one coming at us, did we ? How on earth can ANYONE, continue to support Conservatism, after this bombshell Revelation by Gloria Bolger?
She has truly done a great service to Michael Steele and The GOP...We'd all be lost without Progressives like her, showing us the way to redemption!
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Long Live...THE REPUBLIC !
AMR1960 excellent point.
February 22, 2009 - 04:40 ET by ConservativeRexAMR1960 excellent point. Progressives indeed. That is the gist of the whole matter. Progressives (I really don't think they can/should be called democrats any more) have hijacked the word "liberal".
In fact, historically speaking, Republicans today are more classically liberal then the democrats. Someone earlier cited the voting rights act of 1964, that is but one example. Classsic liberals have always wanted less government, less intrusivness in personel affairs. Progressives on the other hand demanded more government intereference in nearly everything. Woodrow Wilson, and to a lesser extent Theodore Roosevelt are the classic Progressives. Read just how viscious the Wilson administration was, Wilson was FDR's mentor and guess what current president is inspired by FDR?
Futhermore, Progressives can not govern unless they manufacture a "crisis". Wilson manufactured us into The Great War. Has anyone noticed a current president mentioning a crisis recently?
There is nothing new under the sun folks.
with all its pejorative
February 22, 2009 - 05:27 ET by Jack BauerAre people of color ALLOWED to live in New England. Except as nannies and hotel staff?
The GOP should pick a totally minority slate across New England states, and when they fail to get elected blame the inherent racism of white liberal Democrats.
Excellent idea, Jack!
February 22, 2009 - 06:13 ET by thebutlerdiditBTW, thanks for the gift, it arrived on Friday, not Thursday. I wasn't aware of what you discussed in your note. Cool. Keep me posted.
All a Democrat needs is the upper-story window of public attention and the chamber pot of rhetoric. How else to explain the rise of Joe Biden? P.J. O' Rourke
Good point. I don't
February 22, 2009 - 12:06 ET by RR GOPGood point. I don't remember seeing too many black folk up in New England. Remember the old saying concerning Whites' attitudes towards Blacks in this country:
In the South: "You can get as close as you want, but not too high."
In the North: "You can get as high as you want, but not too close."
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Race-baiting throughout the entire Dem primary and general
February 22, 2009 - 09:06 ET by krendler...election by the Obama campaign and surrogates in the media. Why would one expect it to stop once he got elected? If anything, the media's obsession with race and their non-stop, echo chamber chanting-point that the Republican party is racist has become even louder.
Uncle Sam's plantation
February 22, 2009 - 11:12 ET by nkviking75Hey, Gloria, black conservative Star Parker will be glad to tell you who really owns the plantation in this country, and it ain't the GOP. The Dems' power base depends on keeping blacks down.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Mmmm race baiting, how low
February 22, 2009 - 11:44 ET by wiwfMmmm race baiting, how low will they go?
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
nkviking
February 22, 2009 - 20:55 ET by TN MomThanks for the link...I love Star Parker:
Instead of solving economic problems, government welfare socialism created monstrous moral and spiritual problems. The kind of problems that are inevitable when individuals turn responsibility for their lives over to others.
The legacy of American socialism is our blighted inner cities, dysfunctional inner city schools, and broken black families-Star Parker
When will black people wake up and see what the Dems have done to them??
Republican Confederacy
February 22, 2009 - 13:01 ET by TigerSo this is the racial courage AG Holder was refering to? Who is the coward, Steele for speaking of attracking blacks based on priciple or Borger ridiculing those attempts with racial slurs?
The race pimps are really
February 22, 2009 - 18:49 ET by chessplayerThe race pimps are really crawling out of the woodwork now that we`re in the Obama "post-racial" era.
Coward Borger
February 22, 2009 - 20:45 ET by TN MomAG Eric Holder's remark about "being a Nation of Cowards" was directed at CNN's Gloria Borger. I sure hope she takes the hint and shuts the hell up!! It's getting very tiresome for us Non-Cowards!
It's kinda funny though when reporters at CNN spittle on about racism, when, in fact, we have a black president, and black Atty. General, black First lady, EEOC places to work, segregated schools, NAACP, ACLU...............
Race Card Again
February 23, 2009 - 07:10 ET by Mr. Terry"I mean they have no Republican representatives in the House, for example, from the half dozen New England states." As if she didn't know it, the New England states are generally LIBERAL, therefore there aren't so many representatives of a conservative bent from New England.
Wolfie was just setting Gloria Borger up to say what they agreed upon before the cameras were on - to make an untrue assertion as if it were fact.
Those darned, Nazi, slave runnin' Rebublican overseers! When will they ever change?
“Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally.” Abraham Lincoln R-Ill.