Belzer would probably deny it, but he is probably more of a Hobbesian than ANYONE on the conservtive side of the aisle.

After all, a liberal accedes to power in the form of high taxation inorder to acheive the peace that Hobbes spoke of.  Self interest and its persuit is not a Hobbesian concept to my thinking as much as it is a desire to "Get Along" by surrender.

But that is just me.

Never left the secular socialist GUEST start in on you as a purposeful time-killing distraction...its a liberal favorite so YOU never get to drill down on their kookism...must have missed a good sleep to fall for that ploy...bet he learns from it though...his radio show personna would have cut the guest off fast...can't win them all I guess.

Doug Schexnayder, Ph.D. (theconservativecrawfish)

Listening to Belzer makes me wonder when he will burst into a rousing rendition of "The Philosophers Song" as sung by the faculty of the Philosphy Department of the University of Woolamalloo as depicted by Monty Python:

Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
Who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out-consume
Wilhelm Freidrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya'
'Bout the raising of the wrist.
SOCRATES, HIMSELF, WAS PERMANENTLY PISSED...
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away;
Half a crate of whiskey every day.
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
Hobbes was fond of his dram,
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: "I drink, therefore I am"
Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed!

This loser lost me (not that I was ever a fan) when my son, who entered the U of A at age 13, was serving in Iraq...how dare he knock my son OR ANY OTHER WHO SERVED by saying "You think everyone over there is a college graduate? They're 19 and 20-year-old kids who couldn't get a job", he said disparaging the troops, to Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R Fla) on Maher's show. In a condescending way, Belzer claimed he was much more informed than any US soldier because they don't read "twenty newspapers a day" like he apparently claims to do. "

He is right, my son dropped out of college...to serve in Iraq. And again, I guess he is right, my son does not have the time to read 20 newspapers because he is back in graduate school...this time to be a teacher of history and political science.

...their points of view are average America's points of view. This is despite the fact that they do not associate with let alone understand what average Americans believe.

I do give Belzer credit, though, for going on with Hannity.

--
In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem. From time to time we've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule, that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by, and of the people. Well, if no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else? All of us together, in and out of government, must bear the burden. The solutions we seek must be equitable, with no one group singled out to pay a higher price. - Ronald Reagan from his first inaugural address

Aren't HOBBITS short, hairy and brutally kind?

"I am NOT a tax crook!"
Thomas Milhous Daschle

Jack, you just weren't paying attention when liberals re-wrote the political dictionary.

Conservatives are Hobbesians; libertarianism means no government, Obama is a centrist, as are all his staff and cabinet, opposing the stimulus bill is racist, etc.

Get up to speed!! LOL

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson