AP Describes Black Minister's Mockery of Whites as Not Right As 'Note of Racial Caution'

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The Associated Press noticed liberal Rev. Joseph Lowery's prayer raised eyebrows when he prayed for that day in the hazy future when "white will embrace what is right." That divisive note drew this headline: "Lowery gives sole inaugural note of racial caution." The entire dispatch was brief:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Amid the outpouring of inaugural joy over the racial progress represented by President Barack Obama, there was a single, humorous mention of work still to be done.

After the first black president had been sworn in, Rev. Joseph Lowery' ended his benediction with a rhyme familiar to black churchgoers:

"We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get in back, when brown can stick around..."

There was laughter from the enormous crowd. The 87-year-old civil rights pioneer continued:

"When yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man; and when white will embrace what is right. That all those who do justice and love mercy say Amen."

The crowd thundered, "Amen!"


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'Note of racial

'Note of racial caution?'

How about racist b*tchslap? 

same old stuff

Walter Williams granted me amnesty for the role white folks had for slavery etc.. Lowry must have been talking about other white folks.

white is right

Who was it who freed the blacks?  Whites.

Tough for them to accept!

Who was it that sold blacks into slavery?  Blacks.

I need say no more. 

 

..and what color of skin

..and what color of skin were the majority that elected O into office....

Why....the leftist lemming whites...who don't seem to do right.

Apparently in your world

Apparently in your world whites were blameless for slavery! Well done!

How far back are you

How far back are you willing to go to afix blame?

In the Islamic middle ages slave ships attacked Ireland and dragged the prisoners back to Morrocco - should we demand Morrocans pay reparations?

Slavery in Africa lasted all the way into the 1950's in some instances and there are reports of it still ongoing in tribal situations in Congo, Sudan, Nigeria etc.  Should we demand reparations from them for them?

The term White Slavery existed all the way from the Elizabethan to Victorian era.  Should we demand reparations?

Sexual Slavery is still ongoing in lands as diverse from Mexico to Thailand with peculiar offshoots going to the Philippines and who knows where else.  Should we demand homage from them as well?

Short answer?  In the past people did bad things to each other. You didn't (I am guessing) nor did I (I know) so why must I pay penance for it?

 

I'm not "fixing blame". I'm

I'm not "fixing blame". I'm saying that you all are BEING RIDICULOUS picking this man's speech apart like that considering who it was that gave it! I agree with all of your historical points, none of which has anything to do with what I was saying or what Lowry was doing. 

Acts......like a jerk

"I'm not 'fixing blame'". "Only the scalded cat screams"
Contradicting yourself there. If you're not fixing blame, APOLOGISE for your screaming cat comment.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Nonsense. He indicated

Nonsense.

He indicated that White people must adjust their behavior to "Get right" which indicates it is not the status quo.  THis is clearly not the case and frankly insulting to an entire group/

What if the other minister who started the inauguration had said "Hey, black guys, get off your posteriors and get to work providing for your children!"

Would that have been insulting to Black men?

Acts....like he is historically clueless

I suppose Whitey went poking around in the jungle capturing the noble savages?

They bought them. From Arab slave traders. Who bought them. From the black tribe who captured them. Tribal warfare. READ A BOOK.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

So BUYING  a slave,

So BUYING  a slave, absolves one of the hell you'll get to for owning slaves, is that your point? And yes "whitey" did indeed go "poking around the jungle". Perhaps you should "read a book" or google "slave raiders" or something. 

→ Acts

These slaves you owned.  Do you still keep in touch with them?

You see, I don't know anything about owning slaves.  My family never owned any.

But I can see why you feel ashamed, if you did/do own slaves.  I don't think it's legal.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran

The 'hell' you'll get?

You gonna tell me Abraham is in hell?
King David?
Show me chapter and verse for your claim.

We are the only society to set it's slaves free. Go trash a country that condones slavery.

Stop flaunting your ignorance. It's very unattractive.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

ChooseLife: Indeed, we

ChooseLife:

Indeed, we were the only nation to fight a horrendous war to free slaves.

ANd, by Acts 2-38 theory, nearly everyone on the continent of africa would likewise be liable for the slave trade.  I wonder if he/she is also demanding the same of africans as the supposed majority in america?

BD

Of course not. That would actually make sense.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Just another racist on the

Just another racist on the loose that the MSM will never accept as racist?

Hell, he could have pulled out a gun and shot the closest white person on the podium while screaming "Die Honkey, Die" and the press would claim he was "just posting a note of racial caution."

I found his comment to be HIGHLY insulting.

Just another racist on the

Just another racist on the loose that the MSM will never accept as racist?

Hell, he could have pulled out a gun and shot the closest white person on the podium while screaming "Die Honkey, Die" and the press would claim he was "just posting a note of racial caution."

I found his comment to be HIGHLY insulting.

Hey if Lowry

Hey if Lowry was 2nd choice for this Racial Benediction.  Who do you think Husseins 1st choice was?  Oh yeah that great lover of America Rev. (Goddam) America Wright.  This VICTIM was no better.  Ann Coulter is right.  They always have to come at you from the VICTIM point of view, meanwhile they take away any claims to real equalityor accountability.  Equality is the media being in the bag for this guy, Diversity in the workplace and Affirmative Action.  And only whites are racists.

"Don't let the bastards grind you down."

Red

Dear Rev Lowery

Go to hell. Who are you to make that kind of assumption about me and mine? You, sir, are a racist of the worst kind, the Jeremiah Wright kind. I thought we were into the post-racial era of race relations now that the Obamunist has been coronated? Apparently not, or you are just another race hustler, trying to keep your gig going. 

libs aren't racist

It is impossible for a lefty to be racist, can't we understand that yet?

Dude if he wasn't talking

Dude if he wasn't talking about you and you're this evolved person who is not part of the problem, if indeed there was ever actually a problem, why are you complaining. 

Did you know that if you threw boiling water on a group of cats only the scalded one screams? 

Well,

Du-u-u-d-e, neither he nor you know me, so you don't know what I think, what I do, or how I feel.  So, if I find his comments offensive, that's me, OK?  If you don't, for what ever reason, that's you.  That's fine, I have no problem with that, so when if comes to my take on this, I didn't ask for your insight, such as it is.  And he was talking about whites, in general.  I thought the coronation was supposed to get us to this wonderful, post-racial place.  Guess not, right?

Acts.......like a frigging fool

Unlike cats, HUMANS have the ability to articulate their displeasure at being falsely accused.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

But if you're not a racist,

But if you're not a racist, how were you falsely accused? I wasn't offended because I'm not a racist. And the fact that I am not a racist doesn't prohibit me from seeing that for most of our history MOST of our race,  has been! Not everyone, certainly there were individual whites who were responsible for FREEING the slaves, not just Lincoln! Abolitionists and many others, however these people with whom I claim lineage, were the MINORITY of white people at the time! You should hear Lowry credit the whites that fought alongside himself and King. But just as clearly the majority of the white race has been until relatively recently, racist, imperialistic, truce breakers, liars and thieves! Or did you forget the millions who died at their hands?  We, rightly,  call Hitler a monster for killing and subjugating millions of Jews. Well what does that make the majority of a race of people who subjugated another race! Who shared tales with glee on how the negro had tails and therefore were not human? Morally blameless for their actions of the repercussions of their actions? In what world? Most of the people you "revere" from the past are burning in Hell for their mistreatment of their fellow man.

 While you want to stick it in some "everybody was doing it" corner and absolve them of guilt I assure you Jesus won't. And how "hatched in hell" is that argument anyway? "Slavery can't be judged by today's morality because it was the law of the land".  So the sin is absolved because of the widespread nature of the sin? HuH? I mean there was clearly competing morality available on the subject or the abolitionists couldn't have existed.  Oh, and the reason I can assure you of how He feels,  is because He said it in His word! That is how we know the "mind of Christ". 

Acts.......like he can't think his way out of paper sack

"if you're not a racist, how are you falsely accused"
Doesn't even make sense.
Are you saying I can only be 'falsely accused' if I AM one?!
Either you phrased that sentence wrong, or you're a complete moron.
Let me know which, then I'll rip the rest of your inane drivel to shreds.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

i gotta "acts" you acts

 where does it say that slavery is a sin?  i am not advocating....just want people to back up what they say.  i think the NT actually directs those who are slaves to be the best slave they can ( my paraphrase ) as that is the best testimony they may give.  and it directs slave owners to treat their slaves well.....it does not say not to own them, not even not to buy any more if you have some.  curious where you get all your sin references from...seems likely in your own guilty conscience.

 

"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason"  Ben Franklin

Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left

When an entire culture

When an entire culture views you as racist BASED SOLELY ON THE FACT OF YOUR RACE, then you have a right to get upset. 

I have students all the time accuse me of and calling me a racist just so I'll back down and let them behave however they want.  They change their tune when I don't back down and show them how they are the ones being racist.  I hold all of my students to the same standard. If they get out of line, they can expect consequences.  So I'll be damned if some crotchity "preacher" says something like that to the entire world and the lord and savior obama just smiles about it.  Don't you just sit there and tell us we have to take it and like it.  Yes there were white slaveowners early in our country's history.  But if you want reperations, go find a slaveowner TODAY and get it from them.  I've never owned slaves, I've never treated anyone as a slave.  I've never even treated someone different because of their race.  Therefore, why am I being held responsible?  I do not owe ANYONE of ANY RACE prefferential treatment.  

And before you start whining that I wouldn't know what it's like to suffer racial injustice, take comfort in the fact that you are full of crap.  I spent 9 years as a kid in Albuquerque getting beat up because I was one of the few white kids in my classes.  I also teach in a urban school district.  I get called all sorts of wonderful things.  Cracker, white-boy, gringo, etc.  And it's not only the students that say awful things about white people.  

Would it be fair to suggest

that the black churches are teaching their children to hate whites just like HAMAS teaches their children to hate Jews?

empowered by being a permanent victim

He's 87, did anyone point out to him that we (well, not all of us) just put a black man in the White House?

Before someone yells racist...I wanted Condi to run.

------------------------------------- 

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

And I would have voted for

And I would have voted for Michael Steel in a heartbeat.  Or Bobby Jindal.

This incessant racism is so tiresome whether from young or middle aged bone-heads or the geriatrics like this old moron.  It is so OLD!

Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."

I don't

know, it might be raaaaacist to suggest that blacks are hating whites.  Very true, and spot on, but raaaaaacist?  With Rev's like J. Wright, and Lowery, they sure aren't teaching their people to get along with whites.  I guess black lib theology really means, if they gots it, and you wants it, go takes it.

katiejane

This is Lowery's common schtick. He is from Ga, and as Dave and I have both said, he always talks like this. And yes, a LOT of the black churches have Pastors that preach this stuff, and worse. Why do you think that so many black people weren't offended by what Rev. Wright said??? I was surprised, because I truly thought he would have it toned way down for today. Did you all see Obama nodding when he said all of this?? He knew what Lowery was like, so take it how you think it was meant.

 

 

Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke

No Katiejane it WOULDN'T. It

No Katiejane it WOULDN'T. It would be as racist a stereotyping as that for which you seek redress. You know about what, one black church? And that would be Rev Wrights, because you sure don't know what Lowery has been preaching. And you certainly would be a fool to judge the majority of black churches by either Lowery's theology OR Wrights! Since in most black churches, particularly those of the Pentecostal Apostolic, variety, neither Rev Wright OR Joseph Lowery are even considered SAVED,  much less, considered actual pastors of Christ.  That said, in it's most aggressive interpretation how does asking whites to "embrace what is right", amount to "hating" whites? Are you silly enough to think that over the balance of his life whites have been "embracing what is right" and he just missed it?

The fact that unequal treatment for blacks was still codified into law as recently as 1965 although slavery was abolished a HUNDRED YEARS PRIOR, in 1865 ought to tell you that most whites haven't been "embracing what is right"! Duh.

Just because you and the esteemed Newsbusters family are and probably always have been "enlightened" in that area, is no reason to put your head in the sand about the rest of the country!

Were the DEMOCRATS who swore with an oath that they would never vote for a black man, "embracing what is right"? Were the Democrats who stopped Carl McCalls candidacy because black didn't sell in upstate N.Y., "embracing what is right"? Were the democrats who made living legend John Lewis give up his quest for the chairmanship of the DNC in favor of feckless IDIOT Howard Dean, "embracing what is right"?

Changing hearts and minds takes a long time and as the majority race in this country Whites just have to take our lumps, for the past as the country changes. Not everyone is as quick to forgive your transgressions as you are, if I can localize the analogy. I am not by any means implying that you are or have been part of this problem!  I mean, if we have been so "embracing of what is right" many of the racist problems in this country obviously would not have occurred. BUT rather than lash out at a man who was abused in ways that you could neither understand, nor probably survive with sanity, why dontcha relax? Take a chill pill and let the liberals have their day. Do what I do. TURN THE T.V OFF. Even though it is an historic day, I fear the satanic changes that a rabid baby killing sodomy loving liberal will bring, so I am not happy. But rather than be "BITTER", take a breath because  accusing people whose lives have been dedicated to getting someone's foot off their neck, of the opposite, because of your hurt feelings is, well, childish.  

Lowery was preaching skin

Lowery was preaching skin color racism, pure and simple.  You can't fight racial discrimination by using racial discrimination.

44 years ago

You state that "...unequal treatment for blacks was still codified into law as recently as 1965..." as proof that white racism is still prevalent in society?

Give me a break. That was 44 years ago; almost a lifetime (and two generations).

I have seen much more racism from the blacks than from the whites.......

 

Yeah it was sooooo long ago.

Yeah it was sooooo long ago. ummm a generation is more than thirty years SJ. And as for this unbelievable bit of garbage..."I have seen much more racism from the blacks than from the whites.......

 "

There are none so blind as those who will not see. 

 

A generation is 20 years.

A generation is 20 years. In my family no one of my generation has performed racist acts.

Nor my parents.

Nor my Grandparents.

Can I stop doing penance now?

Acts........sanctimonious

None so blind? Talking about yourself there, pal.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

You know about what, one

You know about what, one black church?

Well, actually we know about more than that. Please refer to "Shootout at Miracle Valley" in which a black seperatist group left the Obama portion of the south side of Chicago and moved to Miracle Valley Arizona with the goal of creating aracially pure faith healing group to be seperate from "Whitey."

Naturally, the nature of the group was onlysummed up as Faith healing Evangelicals - the fact they were racists nutjobs who terrorized their mostly hispanic neighbors was totally ignored by the MSM.

There are also other groups. 

"embrace what is right", amount to "hating" whites?

It is amazingly condescending since in context of his comments regaridng other races it is the only one perjorative.  It indicates that Whites NEED to embrace what is right in comparison to the other groups.

What if he had said that:

Blacks need to get jobs

Hispanics need to follow emigration laws.

Chinese need to be lazier.

Indians need to apologize for all the massacres they participated in and pay reparations from gaming profits.

Would that then be racist?

The fact that unequal treatment for blacks was still codified into law as recently as 1965 although slavery was abolished a HUNDRED YEARS PRIOR, in 1865 ought to tell you that most whites haven't been "embracing what is right"!

Since I was born in '63, I have ALWAYS done what is right.  Should I be punished?  Should I have to wear a letter on my chest indicating I come from a racial group that it is fair to abuse?

Just because you and the esteemed Newsbusters family are and probably always have been "enlightened" in that area, is no reason to put your head in the sand about the rest of the country!

So, we can also assume bad things of other racial groups based on what SOME do>

Okay, since blacks have a higher prison population...

See how that STINGS.

Were the DEMOCRATS who swore with an oath that they would never vote for a black man, "embracing what is right"? Were the Democrats who stopped Carl McCalls candidacy because black didn't sell in upstate N.Y., "embracing what is right"? Were the democrats who made living legend John Lewis give up his quest for the chairmanship of the DNC in favor of feckless IDIOT Howard Dean, "embracing what is right"?

Since Obama obvously benefitted from his racial characteristics in this past election (something like 11% said they would NOT vote for him because he was a blackman, 14% said they would vote for him Because he was a black man.

Since this particular act of affirmative action benefits one racial group over the others.  ISN't that an example of "not embracing what is right?

 

"It is amazingly

"It is amazingly condescending since in context of his comments regaridng other races it is the only one perjorative.  It indicates that Whites NEED to embrace what is right in comparison to the other groups."

But you giving examples of a black separatist group to liken them to a civil rights pioneer, who risked his life for equality when others fainted for fear, is not "amazingly condescending," to say the least?  

  Stop pretending it didn't happen or like that other genius, that it was a "whole" forty four years ago and all's been well since then!

"Since I was born in '63, I have ALWAYS done what is right.  Should I be punished?  Should I have to wear a letter on my chest indicating I come from a racial group that it is fair to abuse?"

Again, if he's not talking about you why are you the one upset? Clearly most people on earth were not born since 1963, especially those that run the world or it's governments. By the way, you were still born in time to be the BENEFICIARY of a horrendous social system called Jim Crow and "separate but unequal", being born 2 yrs before blacks had rights to speak of. While that would absolve you of wrongdoing the same could not be said for you father and those previous who reaped the benefit of "ill-gotten" prosperity! Prosperity that was gained through the yoke of another! So put that in your pipe and smoke it. It's real easy to be in a race and say " Hey why don't y'all catch up", when you've had a head start and stopped the others from running! 

"So, we can also assume bad things of other racial groups based on what SOME do>

Okay, since blacks have a higher prison population...

See how that STINGS."

 NO it doesn't "sting", what it does is reveal the flaw in your thinking. Yes, it is improper to impart negative qualities or characteristics to a group based on what a minority of that group does or feels. That is what whites have been doing to blacks for their entire history! But it is COMMON SENSE to impart negative characteristics or qualities to a MAJORITY OF A GROUP of people that have enslaved you, killed your ancestors, stolen your language and currently is busy denying that any of that should affect a person!  

Blacks were mistreated by the MAJORITY of the white race, not some sect in a corner, see how silly your "sting" looks now? You can't judge the actions of the oppressed and the oppressor by the same measuring stick, they aren't the same. While it makes no sense for a white person to impart negatives to blacks based on the nightly news, for most of this nations history it would have been absolutely STUPID for blacks not to judge the majority of whites in a negative way, based on the treatment they received at the hands of that majority! Your sort likes to blame the rape victim for wearing a mini-skirt.

Just a proforma note. 

Just a proforma note.  It is easier to track your comments if you differentiate between your words and words you refer to.  Perhaps by bolding them and Italics if possible.

But you giving examples of a black separatist group to liken them to a civil rights pioneer, who risked his life for equality when others fainted for fear, is not "amazingly condescending," to say the least?

You claimed it is a sole case, I proved it is not.  Done.

Stop pretending it didn't happen or like that other genius, that it was a "whole" forty four years ago and all's been well since then!

I did not do it.  Must I still do penance in Acts 2-38 world.

Again, if he's not talking about you why are you the one upset?

Cool.  I get to abuse various minorities and then say "Hey, Acts 2-38 said I was not talking about YOU!  Hahahahahahah!

Clearly most people on earth were not born since 1963,

Actually, demographically they ARE.

especially those that run the world or it's governments.

That is me, I work in the government.  How do Ivictimize blacks in my job?

By the way, you were still born in time to be the BENEFICIARY of a horrendous social system called Jim Crow and "separate but unequal", being born 2 yrs before blacks had rights to speak of.

Since I grew up on the US, Canada Border with a minority populatin my community of about ZIP, how did I contribute to Jim Crow?  Why should the good reverned call for me to change my ways?

While that would absolve you of wrongdoing the same could not be said for you father and those previous who reaped the benefit of "ill-gotten" prosperity!

What I'll Gotten prosperity?  There were virtually zero minorities in the community DAD grew up in and fewer where Granddad grew up in. 

Since there were no blacks around to victimize, how did the victimization occur?

Prosperity that was gained through the yoke of another!

What YOKING did me, my dad, My Grandad, and my great grandad (Oh, lets really go to town, my great-great Grandad back in the homecountry) do to gain these ill gotten gains.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Dont smoke.

It's real easy to be in a race and say " Hey why don't y'all catch up", when you've had a head start and stopped the others from running! 

What head start did I have?  Dad? grand dad?  G-G Grand Dad?

NO it doesn't "sting", what it does is reveal the flaw in your thinking. Yes, it is improper to impart negative qualities or characteristics to a group based on what a minority of that group does or feels.

Since it is improper to do it to the minority, it is thus logical to assume it is improper to do the same to the majority.

fair is fair.

But it is COMMON SENSE to impart negative characteristics or qualities to a MAJORITY OF A GROUP of people that have enslaved you, killed your ancestors, stolen your language and currently is busy denying that any of that should affect a person!  

Tsk tsk- Since it is improper to do it to the minority, it is thus logical to assume it is improper to do the same to the majority.

I guess it is only a valuable tool if you can use it in YOUR ricebowl....Right Acts 2-38?

Blacks were mistreated by the MAJORITY of the white race, not some sect in a corner, see how silly your "sting" looks now?

So, as asked before, I must pay penance for the acts generations ago?

You can't judge the actions of the oppressed and the oppressor by the same measuring stick, they aren't the same.

Nonsense.  Are you saying that if I as a majority based person were to murder a minority, the crime would be less than if a minority killed me?

Nonsense plain and simple.

While it makes no sense for a white person to impart negatives to blacks based on the nightly news, for most of this nations history it would have been absolutely STUPID for blacks not to judge the majority of whites in a negative way, based on the treatment they received at the hands of that majority!

So, the majority can not learn from the news and apply lessons, but the minority can?

Tsk-tsk. Not logical in any form.

Your sort likes to blame the rape victim for wearing a mini-skirt.

Nonsense.  My type likes to ask why I am theoretically being punished for a theoretical crime of rape my Great Great Grandfather might have commited IF he were in the country in time which he was not.

By the way, do Pakistani's, Afghani's, and Indonesians also have to worry about this?  Do they have to worry about being labled as a color and then have a subjective group claim filed against them?

BD - GREAT 'note' ;-) Thanks!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Hey thanks for the writing

Hey thanks for the writing tip BD, the whole things kinda new to me. 

You claimed it is a sole case, I proved it is not.  Done.

I did not claim it as a sole case, I was being sarcastic when I asked the person how many black churches they knew and defined it as "one". The point was that of the TENS of THOUSANDS of black churches if you had a problem with a HUNDRED of them, you still wouldn't have enough data on the subject.  

Cool.  I get to abuse various minorities and then say "Hey, Acts 2-38 said I was not talking about YOU!  Hahahahahahah!

If you think it will help. Lol. Your answer again reveals the flaws in your thinking. You want equal treatment of "verbage" by the majority in relation to the MINORITY! But that only works in a world where they haven't been getting their asses kicked for four hundred years!  Not a realistic goal.

Actually, demographically they ARE.

Okay, my bad, you got me on that one!

That is me, I work in the government.  How do Ivictimize blacks in my job?

I wasn't accusing you of victimizing anyone! I was making an erroneous point about the population age of government employees in general, which you rightly corrected.

Since I grew up on the US, Canada Border with a minority populatin my community of about ZIP, how did I contribute to Jim Crow?  Why should the good reverned call for me to change my ways?

Obviously had you said that at first I wouldn't have responded to it. You mentioned an AGE. period. That said when I said "you" I was talking about the general "you" in all of us. Obviously I don't know you or your individual circumstance.

What I'll Gotten prosperity?  There were virtually zero minorities in the community DAD grew up in and fewer where Granddad grew up in. 

Since there were no blacks around to victimize, how did the victimization occur?

The entire economic structure of North America is based on the ill gotten gain of forced labor, through slavery. That and the chinese coolies that built the rail system with the slaves. In more ways than I can chronicle here, the legacy fortunes almost all have their origins in infamy. Even further back than the Kennedy's Rockefellers, et, al. There is an apportionment of land argument which has a lot of merit since the sea ports were where the conqueror chose to set up shop. Thereby taking the best parts of the land for themselves. This is as it ever is with conquerors so I'm not tossing a rock here, just explaining where the argument comes from. If you were in an advanced anthropologic/socio-economic biology study, they'd show you a map with the various "high value" areas highlighted. Sea Ports with easy commerce, oil, gold, coal, lumber, whatever, all of these spoils were in the hands of the oppressor and the gain from them is what was "ill-gotten". Or did you forget that they were stolen? That was the point. 

What head start did I have?  Dad? grand dad?  G-G Grand Dad?

Yes, precisely! Your individual circumstance not withstanding of course! "you" in a general sense. Most whites have been the beneficiary of either slavery or of the separate but unequal treatment of African Americans. Even if it was only in benefitting from forced or slave labor, as it relates to areas of the country as opposed to "you" the individual!

Tsk tsk- Since it is improper to do it to the minority, it is thus logical to assume it is improper to do the same to the majority.

I guess it is only a valuable tool if you can use it in YOUR ricebowl....Right Acts 2-38?

 I'm sorry but that just doesn't make any sense. Should the battered wife be regarded with the same degree of suspicion as her abusive husband? Are their crimes equal?  That's absolutely mind boggling that you would say that. Something improper to do to one is therefore improper for all? Where, in communist Russia? Say, you're in a room with five people and they kick the living crap out of you, take your money, kill your friends. And then you go away on a trip and come back. Then you're placed in a room with the five children of the people that KICKED THE CRAP OUT OF YOU. Are you telling me they'd get the benefit of the doubt with you? Especially when they curiously spend a lot of time trying to justify the actions of the people who kicked the crap out of you? Especially when even though THEY didn't kick you, they keep telling you to SHUT UP ABOUT BEING KICKED? These are the people you're supposed to assume have your best interest at heart? Dude. Repent. 

 

Nonsense.  Are you saying that if I as a majority based person were to murder a minority, the crime would be less than if a minority killed me?

 Is it "opposite day" or something? Why is it that you are reaching the exact opposite conclusion of all my points?   Clearly I wasn't talking about Murdering ANYBODY. I was talking about SPEECH. I was talking about the fact that a racist who looks at the news and concludes that all blacks are thugs, reached the conclusion he had in mind in the first place! Because all blacks are clearly NOT thugs! Whereas a man who suffered under discrimination at the hands of the DEMOCRATIC government of the UNITED STATES would be well within the "BOUNDS OF REASON" to conclude that most white people who participated in, furthered, or enjoyed the benefits of his oppression without complaint, were BAD PEOPLE. In one case the white person develops a hatred because of "potential" rape, murder, whatever at the hands of an IMAGINARY black thug. In the other case, it is the black person himself or his friends and relatives who have been abused, discriminated against, lynched, stoned, firehosed, and bitten by attack dogs controlled BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. This person would have a right to conclude that most of the country was full of hell bound hypocrites who were surely going to reap what they have sown for treating him this way. BTW because of the position of the "majority", if a member of the "majority" kills a member of the "minority" there very well might be a different adjudication, than if it were the other way around. It's called a hate crime. Which I disagree with in principle but understand in theory.

 

I did not claim it as a

I did not claim it as a sole case, I was being sarcastic when I asked the person how many black churches they knew and defined it as "one". The point was that of the TENS of THOUSANDS of black churches if you had a problem with a HUNDRED of them, you still wouldn't have enough data on the subject.  

It is obvious that the strain is loose in the community.  You can say it is not, but it is.

....But that only works in a world where they haven't been getting their asses kicked for four hundred years!  Not a realistic goal.

So, by the logic you present, the Isreali's are king daddies on the mountain since they have been abused for 2012 years as an abused minority.  Is this correct and if not why not?

Obviously had you said that at first I wouldn't have responded to it. You mentioned an AGE. period. That said when I said "you" I was talking about the general "you" in all of us. Obviously I don't know you or your individual circumstance.

So the good reverend should perform a mea culpa, right?  And oh by the way I mention ed my past elsewhere.

The entire economic structure of North America is based on the ill gotten gain of forced labor, through slavery.

THis is total nonsense.

How was the economy of Minnesota, Dakota Territory, New England, Califonia, Oregon, Washington state etc based on ill gotten gains of slavery.

THe economy of the south was highly regionalized and did not interrelate with the rest of the US to a high degree as today we would see it.  Nor did the south have financials to support anti-bellem.

It would be more reasonable to say that he economyof the south and slavery fed off of the rest of the country.

Slavery has been identified as an inefficient economic structure - and it failed the stress of war. 

Guess what, socialism ala Obama will also fail, but that is another story entirely.

That and the chinese coolies that built the rail system with the slaves.

Only the rail company that built the stretch of rail from Claifornia to Promontory point Utah used Chinese.  They were also paid well in comparison to available wages in their home countries.

Slaves were only largely used for rail structures in the south where slavery was legal and has been pointedout in history, the south rail network significantly lagged behind the rest of the country.

In more ways than I can chronicle here, the legacy fortunes almost all have their origins in infamy.

Generalized nonsense.  For instance, how did a shipping merchant out of salem Mass who did the clipper trade to Singapore use slavery to create ill gotten gains.

How about farmers in the Dakota Territories?

If you were in an advanced anthropologic/socio-economic biology study, they'd show you a map with the various "high value" areas highlighted. Sea Ports with easy commerce, oil, gold, coal, lumber, whatever, all of these spoils were in the hands of the oppressor

So use of land for the purpose of building ports is inherently oppressive?  WHat is the logic for this statement?

Sounds like twaddle.

 Or did you forget that they were stolen?

Make a case that the purchasing of Manhatten island and the subsequent establishment of New York is the result of thievery.

Yes, precisely! Your individual circumstance not withstanding of course! "you" in a general sense. Most whites have been the beneficiary of either slavery or of the separate but unequal treatment of African Americans. Even if it was only in benefitting from forced or slave labor, as it relates to areas of the country as opposed to "you" the individual!

So you now desire to establish Group rights versus individual rights?  Silly.

I'm sorry but that just doesn't make any sense. Should the battered wife be regarded with the same degree of suspicion as her abusive husband? Are their crimes equal?

Non-applicable theorem.  As we have established, individuals laive today are not responsible for the supposed crimes of their ancestors.

Are you telling me they'd get the benefit of the doubt with you?

Yes.  They are individuals.  or is ther eno point in which the indivdual outweighs the group?

That is counter to the US history of championing individual versus group rights.

Dude. Repent.

I shall not as I am not guilty.  Nor my father, nor any of my ancestors.

You are allowed to repent for assuming my family had any connection to supposed crimes as discussed.

 Is it "opposite day" or something? Why is it that you are reaching the exact opposite conclusion of all my points?   Clearly I wasn't talking about Murdering ANYBODY.

By extension your theory regarding minority to majority crime was disproven using the example of a crime of murder.  Any crime is equally applicable.

I was talking about the fact that a racist who looks at the news and concludes that all blacks are thugs, reached the conclusion he had in mind in the first place!

Sorta like your conclusion that White persons today are responsible for the past?  Ooooops.

Because all blacks are clearly NOT thugs!

But white peaople are all to blame for the past sin of slavery?

In the other case, it is the black person himself or his friends and relatives who have been abused, discriminated against, lynched, stoned, firehosed, and bitten by attack dogs controlled BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

And this applies to ME how as a group segregated white person?

This person would have a right to conclude that most of the country was full of hell bound hypocrites who were surely going to reap what they have sown for treating him this way.

Likewise a white person who is harmed by a black person is likewise allowed to ascribe to a group the actions of the past?

So we should be allowed to pre-judge the children of black felons in prison and hold them accountable for the parents crimes?  Nonsense.

Katie, I have been saying

Katie, I have been saying that for over 20yrs. I grew up in a black majority town as a kid and I learned from other black kids that that is exactly what happens.I would go to the black neighborhoods and some would openly talk to me about the things they learned about white people were from their church.That's why this race crap stays alive.

The more things change...

...the more they stay the same.

Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration

http://www.despair.com/government.html

Okay, I get it- this is

Okay, I get it- this is most certainly a HUGE day for Black-Americans. While those who can attest to actual measures used to hold them down is dwindling, [I realize that attempts are made every day to supress any number of voices: black, women, Muslim, Jew, Christian, and even white- my point here is that there was a time when prejudice toward Blacks was very open and very dangerous. Today, because of affirmative action policies, political correctness, and "white guilt" among others, a whole host of people are being left behind, oppressed, or suppressed- some of which by their own making.] certainly there is pride in the fact that one of their own has ascended to a place and standing most never dreampt possible. 

However, to measure or celebrate the man because of the color of his skin needs to end today. Surely Black-Americans, or more correctly, Americans of mixed race, can now forever take pride and fully rejoice that the country has, by every measure, moved beyond the stereotypes and the hatred. But to base his success or failure on anything other than his policies and the results of their implimentation, or the decisions he makes relative to National Security or other world events, does himself, and his racial brothers and sisters an even greater injustice. If they truly want to move on, discussion in the context of race needs to fade quickly. 

Very good point:

"If they truly want to move on, discussion in the context of race needs to fade quickly."

And to generalize it: "If ANYONE truly wants to move on, discussion in the context of VICTIMIZATION needs to fade quickly." 

As a white person, I try to

As a white person, I try to do what's right in every situation in my life. And for someone who thinks people are offended way too easily these days, I must jump on the bandwagon and say that I am offended by this joker's prayer and lack of decorum. I did notice that Obama's smile lessened a little when he heard the insult.

→ Lowery's Speech

And yes, it was a speech, not a prayer.

As a Christian, Lowery knows he skipped the One Ingredient that would have qualified it as a prayer.

I was willing to chuckle off his comments about Red, Yellow, Brown, Black, and White.  He's an old man, from a struggle won.  His was a Reggie White moment we can keep in context, or we can make it a laughable exercise in self-righteousness.

I was more impressed with Obama's comments implying that racism is over in America.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran

Well according to Rev.

Well according to Rev. Lowry, it's not over.

He's still praying for the day when white will do what's right.

Apparently we haven't yet.

I mentioned before that one of our local "black leaders" here said that we have come a long way from MLK to Barack Obama, but it isn't over yet.

It will NEVER be over, for the race baiters.

→ It's over

And it may take a while for those who profit from the division to own up to it.

But it's over.  I can point to the White House and prove it.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran

To see the caution

Just change white to black.

Post Racial America

Who on here believes that today's rhetoric was post racial?

The left is obsessed with race.

I'm glad Rev. Lowery cleared that issue up for me. Now, I know where I stand.

I do take one point of pride away from today's coronation. Americans fought and died to free a nation from a tyrant named Hussein, but we have elected and innaugurated a man named Hussein as our president.

I believe it says a lot about the people of this nation.

Then, we get a dipstick like Lowery up there reciting a racial prayer.

Here is the Proof - Racism

Racial caution, indeed! It is folks like Lowery, Jackson, Sharpton, ad infinitum, who are hell-bent on ensuring that the perception of racism (especially that perceived about whites) is kept alive and well. All this man has to do is look at crime statistics, as categorized along racial lines, to see that on a per capita basis, "white doing what is right" is not the larger problem. I would advise Mr. Lowery to first get the mote out of his own eye before looking at me.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

"I would advise Mr. Lowery

"I would advise Mr. Lowery to first get the mote out of his own eye before looking at me."

You think he was talking about YOU? You think your puny insignificant life was on the radar screen when this man was giving a speech to millions? Man, there's an old saying that if the SHOE DON'T FIT, stop trying to wear it! Most of the racism Lowery, Jackson etc, have legitimately faced has been from DEMOCRATS in the first friggin' place! Why would you people on this blog be getting so danged touchy? Is this the RDI ( racism denial institute) or something? Blacks were treated HORRIBLY in this country by the MAJORITY OF WHITES for the MAJORITY of their time here! The civil rights act was passed in 1964  and the voting rights act in 1965 that's in MY LIFETIME and I'm only 46! And that did little to stop institutional racism which is only now beginning to turn around.  You people act like this has been some equal society and it's only the blacks that couldn't see it! There are actually some of you who are sick and tired of all this junk about the "first black president" and wish it would all go away! Just because you don't give a rip about it doesn't mean that no one else does. The question, for which I suspect the answer is equally disturbing, is, "why don't you"? Why aren't you proud of this chapter in our nations history? Why do you pick this proud occasion to snipe from the rafters like a, wait for it......BITTER CLINGER! LOL. 

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

And taking acts 16:31 out of context only deepens the reservoir of false doctrine that pervades the land. What YOU mean when you use the word "believe" and what Jesus meant when HE used it are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. Here is what JESUS meant when He used the word "BELIEVE". 

MARK 16:16-20

 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

 17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

 18They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

 19So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

 20And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

In order to even BE a Christian these signs must follow your faith. Now, if "Signs" follow "belief", that means that most of our churches and most of our so-called Christians in this country, really DON'T believe. Most of the signs on this list are actually DISPARAGED in the buildings that most of us call churches. Most of the so called Christians in this country look down on TONGUE TALKING, some even teach that it is EVIL ( jehovah's witnesses, seventh day adventists, mormons, etc), but  it is the sign of the Holy GHost being poured out! (Acts 2:1-33) Without the Holy Ghost indwelling in your body you don't even  belong to Jesus Christ, no matter how much you pray, or "be good". (Romans 8:9)

Most of our churches fall into the "just say the sinners prayer" category which ain't savin' NOBODY! Without the SIGN (Acts 2:4) an individual really doesn't "believe", they just think they do! Their "belief" like their worship, is in vain, (Matt 15:8,9). Sadly, most of our churches don't even accept the concept that it is possible to worship Christ in vain, even though He said it was! 

To "believe" in Christ, you must "rely" on Christ for an answer to your prayer for salvation! Most don't do this.They try to raise their hands and "sign on" like joining a club or frat, but that ain't it honey!  When Christ speaks through your mouth in languages that you never learned, then YOU will know that your repentance has been granted and that He has taken up residence inside of you. Until then....not so much. 

See the parable of the sower and the seed in Matt 13 to understand that according to Jesus very few of the people who hear his word will be saved by it! Only twenty five percent of so called Christians are going to make it according to Jesus. One out of Four. 

I'm not jumping on your statement just expanding it. The word "believe" was one of the principal areas in which satan has perverted it's meaning from activity to passivity and thereby, tricked the people out of their porridge! 

Matthew 7:13-14

13"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

How's it going Keith?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

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Acts, the first black president stuff should go away because Barack Obama IS NOT BLACK!

"Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong."
Calvin Coolidge

You think he was talking

You think he was talking about YOU? You think your puny insignificant life was on the radar screen when this man was giving a speech to millions?

So, since we are just one of many, I should not get upset by this comment?

COOOOOOOLLLLLL....  That give me carte blanche to make similar comments about various racial groups and say "if the shoe don't fit".

Acts, you should have quit

Acts, you should have quit when you were way behind.  But you crapped in your own mess kit. 

Have you never been in proximity to any blacks for any extended period of time?  Partner, they don't like whites.  Pretty simple really.  Oh, we get along because the government forces everyone to get along on the job.  But, in reality, when it comes down to nut cuttin' we don't get along.  I didn't make the world Acts, you didn't, it's just the way it is.

Blacks understand this, and it's ok by me.  I don't have an iota of guilt about anything, and I'm Southern by nearly 250 years.  I get along fine with the blacks I do know.  Honorable men all.  But we all understand it's not the same.

I was raised to believe, and my black friends agree, Boston is way more racist then Birmingham, by a long shot.   So what it really boils down to, is guilt ridden white Yankees don't feel comfortable around black Americans.  They're (the blacks) ok with that, except those hypocritical Yankees won't admit it, and continue to feel superior to anyone from the South.  And for the love of God Acts, what any Yankee has anything to feel superior about is beyond me. 

So continue with your white flight (invented by yankees) and we'll just continue getting along with our black neighbors as we have for 300 years.

In the end though, Lowery is a racist.  Even if you won't admit it, he will.  But I'm ok with that too as long as he is.  Unlike most Yankees, at least we know where he and I stand.  

You just blew yourself out of the water

"Your puny, insignificant life"
ARE our lives puny and insignificant, according to Scripture? Hmmmmmmm. I seem to remember quite a few verses that indicate the opposite. Do you need me to cite them for you?

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Charity

Someone needs to get themselves a puppy! Charity far exceeds all the confidence you place in "signs". When I spoke of "me", I was speaking collectively of whites in general. It is the side of liberalism that tells us the country needs to be "color blind" yet it is the liberal side that seems to always be focusing on color. Why did Mr. Lowery even have to mention color. Because he's color blind? Nay, because his perception of his own power is maintained by perpetuating racism. Let it go!

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31

I posted a snippet of this

I posted a snippet of this earlier in the OT. My point was the fact that he was praying this and it probably got no further than his voice carried.  

Ricky Joe the Plumber 

Lowry a racist

May this racist burn in hell if he doesn't turn his eyes toward God and repent.   It is people like him, Wright, Jackson, Sharpton and Pfleger, that keep racism alive.  These are not men of God, they are men that want to be worshipped as gods for their words.  Just more proof that Obama's choices are radical and out of touch with mainstream America. 

Maybe

Maybe Lowry would like to redirect his "DO RIGHT" comments to the 90% or more of black children being born out of wedlock OR to homes absent a father. When he gets that plank out of his eye, maybe then he can address, with a little more credibility, the speck of dust in my eye.

Maybe Lowry would like to redirect his "DO RIGHT" comments to the thousands of black on black crimes and murders today. Then bring your comments to me with a little more credibility.

If a white person had addressed a crowd with words like this, he would be hounded for life as a racist. 

cvg - and if a white person had uttered those words

the mainstream media would still be SCREAMING about it!  We'd be hearing/seeing it repeatedly 24/7 for weeks on end! 

Does anyone else remember how native americans have sued schools for using the words "red man" for their teams??  Yet this man felt no restraint in using them.

I found ALL of his words in his little ending rhyme very offensive - and, Acts, the shoe does NOT fit here, but the fact this man felt free to speak in such a demeaning manner does not offer Americans (or anyone else in the world who was listening) much hope for a brighter tomorrow.  What more has to be done before the racial overtones cease???

In my humble opinion, black ministers who take this line of so-called 'preaching' are WRONG!  They should be CELEBRATING the fact that a man of color is now president of the United States.  My belief  is that they are afraid...VERY afraid...of how they can continue to preach their messages of hate for white people and victimhood for blacks.  Instead they should be encouraging their congregations to follow in this man's footsteps and ACHIEVE - NOT be VICTIMS any longer!!!

It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue. ~ Sam Adams

Wow. So now he's  racist

Wow. So now he's  racist and must burn in HELL because he said that whites need to do the right thing???!! Are you NUTZ? If white people are "doing the right thing" then by all accounts they just freakin' started! Blacks have been here since Columbus, the civil rights act was in 1964, you do the math. And if you think that the years 1965-75 were "equal" for blacks, then I've got a bridge to sell you, it's in Brooklyn, close to all major shopping. 

Now, I have no doubt that Lowery will probably have problems with the Lord down the road, but this is because of his improper teaching and understanding of salvation, not his opinion of us white folks! But man, you are kind of harsh there 'ol buddy. Those who have been abused should just shut up and take it and be glad that the abuse is over, huh?

Most people with your attitude sound like ABUSIVE HUSBANDS who wish the wife they've been slamming upside the fridge for thirty years would just stop talking about it now that he's in therapy! 

Your wrong Acts...blacks

Your wrong Acts...blacks did not sale on the Mayflower. And if you want to see the results of self rule, take a look a Liberia. Where the freeded slaves that wished to return to their homeland were given there own country. Thats worked out real well, uh? It is not the white man that has kept the black man down. It is the black mans own entitlement attitude. If you dont belive me, take a look at the goverment hand out rolls. Those who wish to better themselves, most always do.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Or Haiti

That bastion of self-rule and classless society.

Unfortunately, they're all dirt poor.

 

So, I am simply a cog in my

So, I am simply a cog in my racial group under your theory?

So, I must pay for my Great Grandfathers errors.

OOOOOOOOpppppppssss...  My Great Grandfather did not emmigrate until 1880 and lived in locations where Swedes were considered the minority by the Norwegians. GrandDad travelled, but nor far, and Dad lived in a fairly homogenous town without minorities to abuse.

Acts????   Do I still have to pay penance!????  Just need to know.

Ha BD!

I should have recognized that "Oly & Lena vent to da market, ya know" about you.

Okay, BDson.  (Ja....my great grandparents changed their names before going off to war....but you know all about that).

My ex's grandfather came here at 14 before WWI....settled in Albert City (liked the name...anyplace named after the King was fine with him)....I can still hear that sweet old man..."Oh Dahvid, eets so goood to seeee ya".

 

Well, we were one of the few

Well, we were one of the few real minority up there.  We were from Great Britain in a sea of Scandahoovians.

Interesting

The history of that area of Europe is fascinating.

But you still have the Swedish thing going on...oh, Ja, I guess I do too!

 

Acts....like a TOOL

You're lecturing the childhood friends of the grandchildren of the wifebeater about the evils of wifebeating.

Answer my previous posts, or stop flapping your gums about subjects which display your woeful ignorance.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

Joseph Lowery is a throwback to an earlier time-the year 1963.

He appears sadly incapable of moving beyond that year in his mind's calendar. Its as if the history of the last 45 years passed him by, unnoticed by him.

It appears the Democrat Party is similarly afflicted.

 

-Dave

“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -While there is still time.

Oh, Lord in heaven, I humbly ask ... WHEN WILL BLACKS STOP ...

... WHINING!

AMEN!          M

AMEN!       

 

Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years.  The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."

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NEVER

"Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong."
Calvin Coolidge

When will they STOP making commercials where the doofus is ...

... ALWAYS the white guy.  I'm sick of it!  Only here in America can we have THE TYRANNY OF THE MINORITY!

I like the ADT commercials...

...where the robber/door basher is always a white guy and the family is always white. Seems to me they are taking this PC BS a little far. Don't black people commit crimes or are unable to afford Alarm systems? Sheesh!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

ADT Commercials

MM - I'm glad someone else noticed that.

My father....

....was doing right to black students at the University of Minnesota when he let them slide on paying for the typewriters he rented out 50 years ago when they were still called Negroes.

So STFU "Reverend".

How nice: WHITES ARE EVIL. ASIANS ARE UPTIGHT...

..and those brown Hispanics, at 15.1% of the population and growing, aren't allowed to stick around.

Way to escort the country into the "post-racial" era, idiot.  Put everybody into nice little boxes, based exclusively on their skin color.

Absolutely sickening.  Change a few of the associations and it's straight out of a Klan meeting.  And it gets a thunderous "Amen" from the Obama worshipers.

 

 

No Rev

This is just pandering to the populace using a series of racial insults and I feel insulted! It was absolutely uncalled for!

The crowd thundered "Huh?"

This enormously stupid harangue from a "religious" thug who invoked the name of G-d and vomited racism upon any who would dare threaten the new Messiahship.

In looking at this pharisaic fool and the drooling Obamatrons, the words of Nietzsche come to mind:

 

Alas, how ill the word "virtue" sounds in their mouths! And when they say: "I am just", it sounds always like "I am revenged!"

They want to scratch out the eyes of their enemies with their virtue; and they raise themselves only in order to lower others.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Better "Poem:" I turn on

Better "Poem:"

I turn on the tube and what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me"
They point their crooked little
fingers at everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat

Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

great tune

Anyone who has not heard Get Over It is missing a great rockin tune with a conservative message. Turn up your speakers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3ORwO5xDUE

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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

Andante, Get over it is a

Andante,

Get over it is a great song, but it was penned by Don Henley - one of the biggest liberal asshats in the music business.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

Don Henley

I always wondered how he came up with the lyrics to a song that could have been the Conservative National Anthem. It still gets five stars in my "work-out" iPod library.

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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

Rush Played It

The first time I ever heard this great song was when Rush played it.  The only reason I bought "Hell Freezes Over".  I bet Henley was pulling his hair out when he learned that Rush promoted it. 

Wanna have some fun?  Go into an Apple store and get into a conversation with the techie.  Then tell them about how Rush loves Apple.  Most of them don't even know that, some don't know who Rush is.  What a world.

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

Where do I fall in?

Where do I fall in? I'm half asian and half white.

Well, apparently according

Well, apparently according to the good Reverend and Mr Acts you are an uptight victimizer.  Best of both worlds don't ya know.

treborblue

by treborblue Where do I fall in?January 20, 2009 - 17:25 ET by treborblue Where do I fall in? I'm half asian and half white. I'm half asian and half white.

 

Hey Tiger, how's the knee coming?

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"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson

That makes you a

That makes you a Whasian!

God Help Us!

 

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Hope and Change,

Hope and Change, Honks...deal with it.

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Racism

People need to chill out. Of course it's not racist. You must have been told numerous "black people can't be racist" and you know they certainly wouldn't lie to you.

Well, at least Lowry didnt

Well, at least Lowry didnt commit the cardinal sin of closing his prayer in Jesus' name.  Just about anything else is acceptable.

Stay classy, libs. 

Here is What I know

As a black man born in the 60's in Montgomery, Alabama, I can say that there is considerable racism on both sides.  Unfortunately only the whites have been forced to deal with it.  We, black people, have been left off the hook. Until we are held accountable, black people will continue to be racist.  I feel that we will not be truly equal until we are held to the same standards as everyone else.  Obviously with a black man in the White House, we are still not considered equal.  If we were viewed as equal, there would be wholesale outrage about his comments in the media.  Judging by their silence, we still have a long way to go.

With that said,  I would like to defend God and black Christians. I have never attended a black church that preaches the type of hatred that Reverend Wright and Lowery subscribes to and I attend church nearly every Sunday.  As a matter of fact, most of the churches that I attend preach Jesus Christ and being born again.   

For people to assume that all black churches preach racial hatred are guilty of the same kind of racism that they are accusing Reverend Lowery.  You would have to assume that all black Christians are hypocrits and do not follow Christ.  Which is more believable?  That there are some black churches churches that preach racial hatred or that ALL black churches preach racial hatred?  During the Jim Crow days in the south, the KKK based their whole ideology on the bible.  Are we ti assume that all white people that attended church are alos guilty of the same racism?

So going forward, do not attribute the race baiting and hatred demonstrated by these EVIL preachers to all black Christians and churches.  To continue to do so would make you just as guilty of racism as they are.

On a final note.  How could white people have voted for a closet racist like Obama?  I wonder how they will feel in the future as Obama promotes black people like Reverend Lowry that hate them and hold them responsible for all of their problems.  Where are they now?  How do they feel about the speech (not prayer by the way).  Do they feel that he was right?  That is like me voting for David Duke or Bull Connor.  This reminds me of the black people that voted for George Wallace here in Alabama.  That was pure stupidity.  If the liberal white people would not have been duped by this race baiter, he never would have won office.   Now that he is in office, he slaps them in the face by allowing this race baiter to give the benediction.  Had we not vetted Reverend Wright earlier, he would have given the benediction.  If I was a white person, I would be mad at those liberal white people that were too stupid to see the obvious; that Obama is a racist and he will make white people pay.  Today was only the beginning.

Can you say reparations?  Stay tuned.

→ Thanks wagreen

But I don't see Obama as particularly racist.

He is the consummate politician, though.  I hope that means he promised everybody everything and can deliver very littleby wayof free rides.

I want to see proud Americans taking pride in their jobs and country.

Ask not what your country can do for you.  Ask what you can do for your country - Muslim, Khalil Gibran

Good post wagreen.  Yes,

Good post wagreen.  Yes, not all people of any certain color or religion act or behave a certain way.  Take any group and you can probably find 10% of that particular group who are extremists, and then poeple will stereotype the other 90% as the same as the bad 10%.  I grew up on military posts and one of the great things about military posts is that there were kids who were white, black, brown and yellow.  Some kids were from places like Puerto Rico, Panama, Guam, some were half Vietnamese, or half Korean.  You had to learn how to get along with kids that weren't the same as you, or else it would be difficult to have lots of friends, because there was so much diversity on military posts. 

Yep, I can say reparations. Sounds like "tax reistance."

As for how liberal whites could have voted for Obama?

GUILT and IGNORANCE and STUPIDITY.

But, then, how could so-called Christians vote for the abortion champion.

Thanks for bringing up how blacks have been let off the hook for the racisim that comes from them to whites.

They've not been held accoutnable for that, just as they have not been held accountable for the racism within their community.

Funny...

I saw Rev. Joseph Lowery's mockery of whites as a note of things to come from the Obama administration.

Obama was generous in his lies of hate- and race-baiting as he spoke to numerous crowds and spoke clearly his endless accusations that the Republicans in general, and John McCain specifically, would use race to pull down Obama and his campaign.

A complete fantasy that never even came close to being a reality, but Obama had to say these hate- filled and racist things nonetheless.

*shrug*

Not impressed by Obama's easy duplicity nor Rev. Joseph Lowery's not-so-well-hidden racism.

BondPlainBond: I have

BondPlainBond: I have thought about it and have concluded that based on the affirmative action policies of the press, Obamas own race baiting actions during the campaign there is but one quote in which to afix to a future Obama presidential monument.

"He's got a funny name...Did they tell you he was black...?"

Should be right under his bust in statuary hall in about 2040.

There is no appeasing the left

No matter what we do, no matter what we say, it will never be enough.  What I really don't understand is that the segregationalists were Democrats!!!  who brings race into the political arena? Democrats!  who ties behavior (good or bad) to race? DEMOCRATS.  I am sick and tired of this crap. People are people. Humans, period.

It would be nice if they judged you by your character not the color/ethnic/sex or whatever

After reading that prayer,

After reading that prayer, it leads credence to the Russian guy who was talking about the U.S. breaking up into many different parts in a few years. 

Rev. Lowery

Rev. Lowery wants to keep the race issue going. This is the only way that his kind keep themselves relevant.

The tide has now officially

The tide has now officially turned.  White people are being attacked by an angry black man on the steps of the Capitol and in front of the whole world.....The AP constantly uses race-baiting against white people.

My Civil Rights are being violated. 

Seems Obama just can't pull off that racial-harmony act...

Should any of use be surprised, given now that we have a president schooled in Black Liberation Theology, mentored by racial separatist, married to a whites-hating woman and how did not hesitate to play the race card, frequently, during the primaries and presidential campaign.

We're -- that is, we who are the majority and are Caucasian are-- now going to be subjected to four insufferable years, at least, of browbeating in one way or another by the racially separatist and angry tongues that race-baiter and race-card-player Obama unleashed in America.

Lowery was just the official beginnging.

And, of course, that any of us find what he said to be offensive or out of place are racist rednecks, honkies, whiteys, etc.

One thing, though: While Obama would like for us to forget it, he's cannot blot out his ancestry--and that still includes a white mother.

Nor can he blot out that his white grandparents helped raise him.

Slavery history

"...Europeans rarely entered the interior of Africa, due to fear of disease and moreover fierce African resistance. The slaves were brought to coastal outposts where they were traded for goods..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery#Pre-industrial_Europe 

 It's a pretty detailed article. I also suggest

Inhuman Bondage (David Brion Davis)

The Barbary Slaves (Stephen Clissold) 

Christians should have observed the "seven year law of a brother" of the old testament and certainly not have enslaved the children of slaves. And they should have never gotten in the business of buying slaves that they were not prepared to free in seven years. That is the root of our current challenges.

Whose the Racist?

sounded to me like Rev. Joe "joe the racist" Lowery is the biggest bigotted idiot on the face of Gods good earth. That is the sort of prayer I would have expected to hear from a 12 year old kid joking with his freinds.

What happened about praying that Obama and the rest of the leaders of our nation to have wisdom to make theright decisions, or seek God for council.  I didn't hear a whole lot that would make me think Lowery was even spiritual.  It made me think he was a giant bigot and a spiritual midget at the same time.

Lowery, if he is saved, will be held acoutable for every word he spoke.  if he is not saved oh well off to hell anyway.