Time's Joe Klein Adores Obama's Calm -- And Asks Nothing That Would Ruin It

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Time’s Joe Klein interviewed Barack Obama again for the November 3 print edition, and hailed his utter lack of drama and his steadiness. Left unasked: isn’t it easier to appear calm and steady when your interviewer doesn’t want to upset your no-drama image? Klein went on an extended exploration of how Obama showed great respect for Gen. David Petraeus, but made no mention (and as far as a reader can tell, hurled no question) about his supporters at MoveOn.org taking out an ad skewering the general as "General Betray Us." Likewise, he praised Obama’s deftness in handling the "black-nationalist sermons" of his minister Jeremiah Wright, but never seemed to press the candidate on any of the contradictions in his I can’t dissociate myself/oh yes, I can routine last spring.

In an article helpfully titled "Why Barack Obama is Winning," Klein began by describing Obama as a superior commander-in-chief to President Bush already:

General David Petraeus deployed overwhelming force when he briefed Barack Obama and two other Senators in Baghdad last July. He knew Obama favored a 16-month timetable for the withdrawal of most U.S. troops from Iraq, and he wanted to make the strongest possible case against it. And so, after he had presented an array of maps and charts and PowerPoint slides describing the current situation on the ground in great detail, Petraeus closed with a vigorous plea for "maximum flexibility" going forward.

Obama had a choice at that moment. He could thank Petraeus for the briefing and promise to take his views "under advisement." Or he could tell Petraeus what he really thought, a potentially contentious course of action — especially with a general not used to being confronted. Obama chose to speak his mind. "You know, if I were in your shoes, I would be making the exact same argument," he began. "Your job is to succeed in Iraq on as favorable terms as we can get. But my job as a potential Commander in Chief is to view your counsel and interests through the prism of our overall national security." Obama talked about the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, the financial costs of the occupation of Iraq, the stress it was putting on the military.

A "spirited" conversation ensued, one person who was in the room told me. "It wasn't a perfunctory recitation of talking points. They were arguing their respective positions, in a respectful way." The other two Senators — Chuck Hagel and Jack Reed — told Petraeus they agreed with Obama. According to both Obama and Petraeus, the meeting — which lasted twice as long as the usual congressional briefing — ended agreeably. Petraeus said he understood that Obama's perspective was, necessarily, going to be more strategic. Obama said that the timetable obviously would have to be flexible. But the Senator from Illinois had laid down his marker: if elected President, he would be in charge. Unlike George W. Bush, who had given Petraeus complete authority over the war — an unprecedented abdication of presidential responsibility (and unlike John McCain, whose hero worship of Petraeus bordered on the unseemly) — Obama would insist on a rigorous chain of command.

That’s a sentence full of the audacity of hope that no one remembers that Obama was backed by the unseemly "Betray Us" ad buyers, not to mention the discounts offered by Obama supporters at The New York Times. Klein wants us to see his Obama as a giant looming over the puny Republican ring-kissers.

Klein is more supinely pro-Obama when it came to Wright, quoting absolutely nothing from his hateful heap of sermons, neither America-deserved-9/11, nor U.S. of K.K.K.A., or nor the U.S. Government Invented AIDS Virus to Kill Blacks. Obama is allowed to declare that this was a teaching moment for America, not a reaching moment for Obama, when the spin couldn’t take the stink off his 20-year association with a vicious preacher of hate and racial bitterness:

He seemed to be thinking in my presence, rather than just reciting talking points, and it took him some time to think through my question about gut decisions. He said the first really big one was how to react when incendiary videos of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's black-nationalist sermons surfaced last spring. "The decision to make it big as opposed to make it small," Obama said of the landmark speech on race relations he delivered in Philadelphia. "My gut was telling me that this was a teachable moment and that if I tried to do the usual political damage control instead of talking to the American people like ... they were adults and could understand the complexities of race, I would be not only doing damage to the campaign but missing an important opportunity for leadership."

The speech was followed by a more traditional form of damage control when Wright showed up in Washington still spewing racial nonsense: Obama cut him loose. And while Obama has followed a fairly traditional political path in this campaign, his strongest — and most telling — moments have been those when he followed his natural no-drama instincts.

Obama completely contradicting himself was somehow not political floundering. It was forceful damage control flowing from a natural no-drama instinct. You get that same sense of liberal calm undisturbed by helpful liberal reporters in this passage:

But one of the more remarkable spectacles of the 2008 election — unprecedented in my time as a journalist — was the unanimity among Democrats on matters of policy once the personality clash between Obama and Hillary Clinton was set aside. There was no squabbling between old and new Dems, progressives and moderates, over race or war or peace. This was a year for no-drama Democrats, which made Obama as comfortable a fit for them as McCain was awkward for the Republican base.

This does not acknowledge that reporters don’t tend to foster discord between Democrats, especially after a long primary season, but launches eagerly into egging on intranecine Republican squabbles.

Then Klein launched back into Petraeus, having Obama declare him non-ideological, and then imply he’s non-ideological as well:

Which is why the Petraeus moment is so interesting. Obama's gut reaction was to go against his normal palliative impulse and to challenge the general instead. "I felt it was necessary to make that point ... precisely because I respect Petraeus and [Ambassador Ryan] Crocker," Obama said, after he reluctantly acknowledged that my reporting of the meeting was correct. "Precisely because they've been doing a good job ... And I want them to understand that I'm taking their arguments seriously." Obama endorses Petraeus' new post, as the commanding general at Central Command, with responsibility for overseeing both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. "He's somebody who cares about facts and cares about the reality on the ground. I don't think he comes at this with an ideological predisposition. That's one of the reasons why I think he's been successful in moving the ball forward in Iraq. And I hope that he's applying that same perspective to what's happening in Afghanistan."

Klein must tell the reader that he’s been honored repeatedly by Obama interviews, and reminds the reader that he aggressively hectored the most liberal Senator from the left in the first interview:

Almost exactly two years ago, I had my first formal interview with Barack Obama — and he appeared on this magazine's cover for the first time. It wasn't an easy interview. His book The Audacity of Hope had just been published, but his policy proposals didn't seem very audacious. He actually grew a bit testy when I pushed him on the need for universal health insurance and a more aggressive global-warming policy — neither of which he supported. He has stayed with his less-than-universal health-care plan, and I still find it less than convincing. And his cap-and-trade program to control carbon emissions has taken a backseat to the economic crisis — although Obama insisted that he still favored such a plan, so long as consumers are cushioned with rebates when energy prices rise.

Klein wrapped up by declaring his solidarity with Obama’s adult leadership, something the current president doesn’t possess, by his lights:

His has been a remarkable campaign, as smoothly run as any I've seen in nine presidential cycles. Even more remarkable, Obama has made race — that perennial, gaping American wound — an afterthought. He has done this by introducing a quality to American politics that we haven't seen in quite some time: maturity. He is undoubtedly as ego-driven as everyone else seeking the highest office — perhaps more so, given his race, his name and his lack of experience. But he has not been childishly egomaniacal, in contrast to our recent baby-boomer Presidents — or petulant, in contrast to his opponent. He does not seem needy. He seems a grown-up, in a nation that badly needs some adult supervision.

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Please listen, Joe...

You're an embarrasment to journalists of all stripes.  The media has shown itself to be completely, endearingly, in the bag for Obama since day one.

Why has no one looked further into Biden's claims that Obama will be faced with an international challenge?

Why has no one looked into Obama's CLOSE association with Ayers, Wright, Rezko, and Raines?

Why have many of you refused to accept that the mortgage scandal was brought upon by Democrats, not Republicans?  Despite the facts?

I'll never look to you guys as "news" people with all the 'facts'.

You oughta be ashamed, Joe. 

Klein

I still don't understand the technique where Klein quotes Obama lecturing Petraeus, even though Klein wasn't in the room. Klein is getting his information (and that quote) from Obama and his staffers. Then he compliments his own reporting, saying that "Obama said, after he reluctantly acknowledged that my reporting of the meeting was correct." Well of course, since it was Obama who fed him the report in the first place. What a stooge!

Klein is willingly allowing Obama to play him like a violin, just as he allowed the Clintons to pull his strings. He's a complete prostitute.

Wow, there you have it..

Wow, there you have it.. The First Gospel of Obama by Apostle JoeK.

Of note, Obama will run the wars from here on out and make the strategic decisions. We know how that went down in Viet Nam and even as recent as Mogadishu.

I wished he would of

I wished he would of remained known as "Anonymous"...because that is all I think of him as...a know nothing talking point shill for the dem party, this critter is past pathetic...he has been long ago...he does anything to keep his name in the news...

Same category as Gergen if you know what I mean...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Something tells me Mr. Klein's rosy existence

Something tells me Mr. Klein's rosy existence in the land of OZ is about to be disturbed in a manner most rude.

:-)

-Dave

In order for wealth to be spread, it first must be seized.

I know this is futile but I

I know this is futile but I had to do this. I saw a link over on Hot Air that the NYT went and endorsed Bambi (suprise, suprise), just like we know that Time and Newsweek will soon be doing too. So I logged in my old account at the NYT when I was participating in there Forums on the 2000 election and the Bush Administration until they got rid of them. It was still working even though I stopped visiting after being sickened by their coverage of the election about 6 or 7 months ago. I felt I had to post a comment on the endorsement and post the article by Orson Scott Card to show how ethically corrupt they are. http://www.linearpub... I know it was a useless gesture since the comment will most likely never get past there moderators but I felt I had to do something.

So MUCH wrong with this Klien article . . where does one start ?

I will go with the Klien worship phrase . . ."Obama's gut reaction was to go against his normal pallative impulse and to challenge the General instead"
No wonder BHO took the adoring MSM crowd of talking heads on his Iraq trip. . . with Crap like this being blown in your face like so much Smoke from Pot smoking ex hippy journalists trying to make us believe BHO could stay in the same room with Petraeus without Obama looking like the "pull out now" Binary policy Idiot he IS.....
Geez. . .junk journalism . . WAY OFF the believability scale for sure....
Spare me from the Worship service !

Hmm, I guess I have to add

Hmm, I guess I have to add more. I wonder why JoeK didn't bother lingering on the story that Obama tried to interfere with our foreign policy in Iraq when he tried to get their gov't to delay any action to ratify their status of forces agreement with the US until a new administration was in. I guess being a meddler doesn't warrant coverage. Seems that story has been off and buried next to Jimmy Hoffa.

Speaking of non-relevant

Speaking of non-relevant people...I just now turned it to CNN and before it went to commercial Michael Moore was saying how smart the repubs were..blah blah blah...then he went on to say the repubs will try to TAKE this election again...

Instead of WIN this election.

I'm paraphrasing here...but you get the idea.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Leave Poor Joe Klein Alone

Joe Klein has a legitimate reason for behaving the way his does. I have heard from reliable sources that Joe Klein has been getting the same "thrill going up my leg" as Chris Matthews.

When you are an old liberal like Joe Klein (or Chris Matthews), and Viagra no longer seems to work, the pleasure of being able to get a "thrill going up your leg" from someone like Barry Hussein Obama is not to be taken lightly.

Before anyone takes offense, I'm not saying Klein or Matthews are gay, not that there's anything wrong with that, just because they get a "thrill up their leg" from Barry Hussein Obama. Whatever turns you on.

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Don't miss reading this excellent article by Orson Scott Card titled:Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?

But the Senator from

But the Senator from Illinois had laid down his marker: if elected President, he would be in charge. Unlike George W. Bush, who had given Petraeus complete authority over the war — an unprecedented abdication of presidential responsibility (and unlike John McCain, whose hero worship of Petraeus bordered on the unseemly) — Obama would insist on a rigorous chain of command.

Truly frightening.  And, you're going to tell me this little stuttering windbag butted noses with Petraeus and told him how the cow ate the cabbage? Fat chance.  Disgusting display of words from Klein about the support from President Bush and Senator McCain on behalf of a commanding general who happens to be winning the war.

I was in the army when Clinton was elected.  I was not happy about the prospect of serving under a President who protested war and in effect, dodged the draft when others were sacrificing their lives.  I can tell you right now that I wouldn't serve under Obama.  (That sounded so sickening.)

Even more remarkable, Obama has made race — that perennial, gaping American wound — an afterthought.

Oh please. After sitting in a pew listening to Wright's blather for 20 years, Obama's healed that gaping wound??  

But he has not been childishly egomaniacal...

Klein has now summed up his intelligence quotient.  He should be demoted to writing ingredients lists on gum wrappers.

Listen to the generals

Obama's problem is one of ego.  He will not listen to his advisers.  He's not listening to the generals who know more about strategy than he ever will so why will he listen to economic or foreign relation advisers?

Any idiot can be a great president just by bringing in good advisers and listening to them.

I see Obama being a disaster simply because he will not listen and he doesn't know as much as he thinks he does.

Who's Klein's source?

". . .one person who was in the room told me."  Who was in the room that would have talked to Klein?  It was obviously an Obama campaign lackey.  This is "objective" journalism to Time Magazine.  It is so bad that Klein doesn't even feel the need to hide his bias.

Obama's Calm before the storm

Whether Obama wins or not is not the issue.  the real issue is the Economy that has become worse not because the bail out isn't working, not because crude prices are down. the economic crises is happening because the world is exepecting Obama to win the election and bring in Socialism to the US and kill the free market economy. A system where no one will have small businesses and the Govt will own everything and give everybody what they want by spreading the wealth.

The US Drops out as an economic power the EU takes over where the US left off and the Pope gets everything just has they (illuminati) planned.

Obama is calm because he doesn't give a hoot about the US or its people.  if he doesn't win his followers will kill 100,000 in three days of violent riots throughout the US forcing Marshal law. Most will be white Obama supporters that were suckered in by his fare speeches and subtle movements to quickly get people off the truth onto a side issues of race and intolerance. He being the cheif racist and intolerant tyrant of them all.

Obama is calm because win or lose he will destroy the greatest Nation on earth for his own political/religious legacy of singlehandily taking down the enemy of BLTotalitarian socialist movement, Democracy.

Obama is calm because there is no one telling the truth including himself.

Beware of the Calm before the storm or in the eye of one.

Obama is calm because he

Obama is calm because he doesn't give a hoot about the US or its people. if he doesn't win his followers will kill 100,000 in three days of violent riots throughout the US forcing Marshal law - This is wandering dangerously into troll territory or at the very least padded room.  While it may be a possible senario it is very unlikely.  Most people are reasonable and the few that are not will be handled by the gendarmes.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Obama is calm because

I would have believed that most people are reasonable a year ago but from what we are seeing these last few months.  I am beginning to think we are the only sane reasonable people left.

I know my view seems a bit trollish. but 60% of Obama's followers are non-tax paying, freeloading, drug addicts, 30% are dupped brainwashed middle classed Morons who don't know any better, and the other 10% are the mainline media and theiir lackies, and so far they have all given me reason to look at the worse case senario in this Presidential race.

When people get this worked up over a person weird things can happen and happen fast and uncontrollably. I pray you are right Dan.  It would be best if your are.

my percentages are a bit skewed but youget the picture. 

class act those obama lovers

  "This is wandering dangerously into troll territory or at the very least padded room.  While it may be a possible senario it is very unlikely.  Most people are reasonable and the few that are not will be handled by the gendarmes." 

Tell that to the young woman who was robbed at an ATM and then mutilated because the mugger was angry because she is a McCain/Palin supporter (he saw the bumper sticker on her car).  Tell it to the people in Florida who are having their windows shot out because they have McCain signs in their front yard, or the people who have had their cars keyed because of McCain stickers, and the young girl who was bullied and chastised because she wore a McCain t-shirt to school.  Yeah troll territory my butt. This could become a reality.

 

 

Morons for Obama!

This guy is typical of the Obama Supporters!

If they had a brain they'd know better, but since they don't they can swallow the bullshit that Obama is spreading!

STOP OBAMA NOW!!!!!

joe klien obama ass kisser

So Joe was impressed by the way Obama "handled" the black nationalist preachings. Did he bother to ask if he accepted any of it as part of his political philosophy?  Has Joe even ever heard of James Cone,founder of black liberation theology and its Marxist social/economic worldview and how they are incorporated into the basic tenets and "theology" of BLT? No, you say. Joe was just impressed with the way Obama "handled" it.  Does Joe know, since being a teenager every significant relationship, outside of his family, that Obama has had has been with one type of Marxist or another?  Blinded by the light, I suppose.

Of course Obama excepted his

Of course Obama excepted his political Philosophy.  that is why he and his wife played the race card so eliqently and timely.  So much so all hi lackies are now playng if for him.  But he can't distance himself from everybody. at least not until he is in office.