CNN's Political Ticker blog didn't bury the lead on Wednesday afternoon:
Rep. Alcee Hastings told an audience of Jewish Democrats Wednesday that they should be wary of Republican VP nominee Sarah Palin because “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”
So not only is Palin a racist and anti-Semite, so is anyone who totes a gun? But CNN's headline was ridiculously bland: "Florida congressman points to Palin to rally Jews to Obama."
CNN's Martina Stewart added that the crowd at the National Jewish Democratic Council roared at this mudslingling line, that "the room erupted in laughter and applause." Another congressman, Jewish Rep. Steven Cohen, announced Jesus was a Democrat:
Cohen, who recently remarked that Jesus Christ was a community organizer, took his comments about the founder of the Christian faith further Wednesday. “A lot of what Jesus talks about is wonderful,” Cohen said. “Talks about helping people and lifting them up and caring about people who are sick and all those things. He’s a great Democrat.”
At least ABCNews.com carried a more direct headline on its Political Radar blog: "Florida Congressman: Palin 'Don't Care Too Much What They Do With Jews and Blacks'." They reported:
Asked what the congressman meant, Hastings spokesman David Goldenberg told ABC News that he was trying to argue that Palin is an "extremely conservative woman who is out of touch with mainstream America."
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The Good News
September 25, 2008 - 06:30 ET by Gat New YorkJews are not voting for Obama like Democrats in the past. There has been a major outreach program and frankly having a bigot like Hastings making comments like this will drive even more Jews to McCain.
Other than that his comments showhis ignorance of Alaska. For an impeached judge, Hastings is not a mora authortiy on any issue.
>>>Jews are not voting for
September 25, 2008 - 06:37 ET by seanrobins>>>Jews are not voting for Obama like Democrats in the past. There has been a major outreach program and frankly having a bigot like Hastings making comments like this will drive even more Jews to McCain.
I only wish this were true.
If Israel receives the support it needs (which I believe it will) to continue its daily struggle for existence, it will be NO THANKS to the great majority of liberal American Jews.
To Liberal American Jews: Mahmud Ahmadinjad is coming for you next. Just remember.
sean robins
blog.seanrobins.com
Question?
September 25, 2008 - 06:38 ET by PA ConservativeThis is a question I've had for some time and I am hoping someone can explain it to me. Why would most Jewish persons vote Democrat in the first place? Israel has had no greater supporter than GWB. Based on that alone, shouldn't Jews being running toward the Republican party? Obama doesn't understand or acknowledge the threat Iran poses to Israel. Anyone care to explain this voting pattern to me?
It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.
It's a matter of MATURITY!
Robert Anton
I would if I could, but I'm
September 25, 2008 - 06:43 ET by motherbeltI would if I could, but I'm just as confused as you are.
In a similar vein, 75% of blacks are in favor of school choice for parents, but still vote for Democrats, who vehemently oppose it.
Not only that, blacks,
September 25, 2008 - 08:58 ET by SeashellNot only that, blacks, especially in the South are very religious, don't agree in gay marriage or abortion, or want to pay high taxes yet vote for democrats every time (I think out of reverence to JFK and MLK)
My personal belief is that
September 25, 2008 - 06:56 ET by Gat New YorkMy personal belief is that with the passing of time and distance from the Holocaust most Jews have lost sight of their religion and heritage (Israel). I think Democrats have done a very good job over the years of reinforcing how their party has always been the home to Jewish people.
Conversely, Republicans until recently have done a miserable job of outreach to Jews. Long before GWB there was Richard Nixon who is the single most important President to the survival of Israel, yet most Jews don’t know that. That was followed by the only anti-Semitic President in modern history who was personally responsible for the ascension of Khomeini and the worst enemy Israel still faces.
I believe that many Jews have forgotten or don’t know about Obama’s 20 year history with Wright and Trinity Church. There is also a percentage of Jews (ie Wexler) who have long ago place the big “D” ahead of an sense of religion.
There is a Siena Poll that has shown that the majority of Jews in New York are voting for McCain and that would be extraordinary.
Persecution Complex
September 25, 2008 - 08:26 ET by retroconIMHO:
Many of the Jews in Israel have fought to end their long history of persecution. They support the USofA and our conservative leaders.
Many of the Jews inside of the USofA prefer to feel persecuted. Hence, they make good Democrats.
I don't think that Jesus
September 25, 2008 - 06:31 ET by FranksamI don't think that Jesus was the 'founder' of the faith, but rather the basis. Other humans founded Christianity, and Jesus has been (mis)used to advance many various political agendas throughout the last two thousand years.
Who would Jesus vote for? He'd destroy the temple.
"No Bias, No Bull"
September 25, 2008 - 06:33 ET by sawing battaIs this really a straight down the middle description?
If the similarly slimy comments were made about Biden, would you report the same way??
do you really think no bias, no bull is true?
adding a tagline doesnt make it so....
Alcee Hastings: “anybody
September 25, 2008 - 06:34 ET by seanrobinsAlcee Hastings: “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”
Barack Obama: "that's not the Alcee Hastings I knew."
sean robins
blog.seanrobins.com
An impeached bigoted judge
September 25, 2008 - 06:57 ET by Gat New YorkAn impeached bigoted judge is not the moral authority on anything.
Pole dancers?
September 25, 2008 - 06:38 ET by Mica the Magnificent“anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”
Ah, yes. Those pole dancing, stripping moose. Yummm! Where do you place the sawbuck?
“A lot of what Jesus
September 25, 2008 - 06:53 ET by motherbelt“A lot of what Jesus talks about is wonderful,” Cohen said. “Talks
about helping people and lifting them up and caring about people who
are sick and all those things. He’s a great Democrat.”
Uh, no, Mr. Cohen. Jesus talked about us doing those things for each other.
Democrats talk about government doing those things by taking money from the citizens.
As for Hastings' comment, that is a vile piece of slander. And there's Hillary Clinton standing there smiling.
So,anybody who hunts is someone who wouldn't care what he/she did to blacks and Jews?
And a conservative is someone who wouldn't care what he/she did to blacks and Jews?
HOW in the name of all that's good and holy, do they GET AWAY with spewing this garbage!!!!
I'm sorry, I have to hurry and duct tape my head before it explodes!!
How is the unmitigated. . .
September 25, 2008 - 13:53 ET by WingletDriversupport for sucking the brains out of babies "caring for people"?
How is requiring mortgage companies to float bad loans, then having tax payers foot the bill "caring for people"?
How is teaching lewd sex ed to 5-year-olds "caring for people"?
This may be off topic, but
September 25, 2008 - 14:28 ET by mandrakeThis may be off topic, but I'm just wondering. You mentioned hunting in your post. My dad taught me how to hunt...if fact he gave me a rifle one birthday. But what I've never be able to figure out, is why someone needs an automatic weapon like an M16 for hunting? Hardly seems sporting.
»→ Good question mandrake
September 25, 2008 - 14:33 ET by Cool ArrowUnless your understanding of the Second Amendment hinges on hunting. No relation.
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" - Joe Biden 6/12/87
Ok, so my post was in jest.
September 25, 2008 - 19:37 ET by mandrakeOk, so my post was in jest. So, some believe the phrase "the right to bare arms" include M16's which were not invented at the time the consitution was written.
Now, how far does this reasoning go? Does it include land mines,tanks or nuclear missiles?
"Arms" as in all weapons, not in specific ones
September 25, 2008 - 22:09 ET by CobraMan"Now, how far does this reasoning go?"
It goes all the way, there are no limitations defined within the Constitution.
The Constitution doesn't define what constitutes "arms." The term relates to any potential tool that is used as a weapon (That's what a weapon is, a tool used in combat or defense). This includes everything from rocks and sticks to machine guns and nuclear weapons, and even weapons that have yet to be invented. I believe this was done intentionally in order to account for any advancement in future armaments and technology.
"So, some believe the phrase "the right to bare arms" include M16's
which were not invented at the time the consitution was written."
The founding fathers were not stupid, they knew that progress will occur and new technologies will be invented in the future, including new types of weapons. They also knew that a nation is dependent upon its citizen for protection from external, and internal, threats. This is why the Second Amendment was included, to allow the citizens to make, keep, and use the tools necessary to defend themselves from any possible threat.
In regards what defines appropriate armament, it’s up to our elected representatives to make that determination and to make laws respecting which tool can be used as a weapon of defense per the Constitution and which one can not, just as the founding fathers envisioned.
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
So by the terms of the
September 25, 2008 - 22:33 ET by mandrakeSo by the terms of the second amendment it's consistutional for a private citizen to possess a nuclear weapon?
So then why not a citizen of another country?..let's say Iran or Korea?
Constitution only covers US Territory
September 25, 2008 - 23:06 ET by CobraMan"So by the terms of the second amendment it's consistutional for a private citizen to possess a nuclear weapon?"
In accordance to the Constitution, there are no prohibitions in which weapons are allowed, so I'd have to say yes. Congress, on the other hand, can determine that a nuclear weapon is NOT something people should be building (or buying) and storing in their homes or on thier property. Just like how, even thought gasoline is legal to possess and use, Congress has determined that the production and storage of large amounts gasoline is NOT something you should be able to do in your home or on your property.
"So then why not a citizen of another country?..let's say Iran or Korea?"
Don't act stupid, it's unbecoming. You know as well as I that the Constitution only applies to the governments and individuals that reside within the territories of the United States of America. The rights and limitations contained with the Constitution do NOT extend to the citizens of a foreign country.
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
You mean this Alcee Hastings
September 25, 2008 - 06:50 ET by well99Eighteen years ago, Democratic Rep. John Conyers came to believe that Alcee Hastings, at the time a federal judge in Florida, was guilty of impeachable offenses. Hastings stood accused of conspiring to take bribes, and, although it is little remembered today, Conyers served as the chairman of the House Judiciary subcommittee that investigated Hastings and unanimously recommended his impeachment. After the House voted 413 to 3 to impeach Hastings, Conyers went on to serve as one of the House impeachment managers who successfully argued before the Senate that Hastings should be convicted and removed from office."
Gee I dont think I would listen to him.Unless I need to bribe someone.
Wasn't there an invetigation
September 25, 2008 - 07:13 ET by ricklailWasn't there an investigation about how much he was paying one of his staff who also served as his mistress? I seem to remember something along those lines.
If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!
rick
September 25, 2008 - 07:28 ET by well99Here is a link on the bribery.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjhiODMwNDA0ZGEwMGI3ZGExOGFjYmIzNzQzZjhjYjc=
»→ Hastings embarrassingly stupid
September 25, 2008 - 06:54 ET by Cool ArrowHastings, and these Jewish Democrats who applaud him are embarrassingly stupid.
And still there are those whose kin were incinerated yet they trust in Government.
"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden
»→ Hastings
September 25, 2008 - 06:59 ET by Cool ArrowNow that he can't take bribes for a living Hastings gets paid to pander.
I can't believe any group of Jewish people would pay him to blow smoke up their collective arse.
"Don't taze me bro" - Joe Biden
After Hurricane Katrina the
September 25, 2008 - 07:19 ET by cocodrieAfter Hurricane Katrina the black police chief of Orleans Parish [county] sent what few police that remained to confiscate citizens' guns. Out here in Jefferson Parish our chinese sheriff encouraged citizens to use our guns to protect ourselves. So much for race related bigotry. You know, Alcee Hastings isn't so bad when compared to other democrats.
Irony
September 25, 2008 - 08:27 ET by retroconHitler took away the Jews guns before rounding them up...
More Irony
September 25, 2008 - 08:29 ET by retroconEarly gun control laws specifically attempted to keep guns away from blacks, to prevent them from protecting themselves.
And Jesus would not have been a democrat...
September 25, 2008 - 08:36 ET by retroconHe believed in personal responsibility, for yourself and for your fellow man.
He did NOT believe that people should turn to their government for help, or expect help from them!!!
The libs should think about what they're saying... libs like big government, look what the big government did to Jesus.
She got it bass ackwards.
September 25, 2008 - 08:46 ET by JWFIt is I, the nonhunter that does not care too much.
It is called individualism. You have to take care of yourself because no one with or without firearms will care all that much about you.
Individualism is opposite of the collective that socialists and democrats and borg love so much.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
If only Asslee had said, I
September 25, 2008 - 10:11 ET by PA ConservativeIf only Asslee had said, I am 5 of 9, resistance is futile. Maybe then the crowd would have reacted appropriately.
It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.
It's a matter of Maturity
Robert Anton
Par for the course
September 25, 2008 - 09:38 ET by 911isbusy"...the crowd at the National Jewish Democratic Council roared at this mudslingling line, that "the room erupted in laughter and applause..."
This is par for the course for Democrats these days. They are motivated more now by hatred than they are by any traditional Democratic platform.
Those who have not swords can still die upon them.
Let's examine this a bit closer...
September 25, 2008 - 12:14 ET by JohnM“anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks.”
Is there an undercurrent in the thinking behind this statement, that puts Jews and blacks on par with moose that were hunted?
Never mind how stupid an assertion that is, it boggles my mind that no one is upset that it was even put forward.
Where's the outrage over those implications, from BOTH sides?
I am totally disgusted that Hastings is getting away with this racial divisiveness, disparagement, and scaremongering.
He should be held to account, and thrown out of the arena!
Oh wait! There would need to be an objective media for that to happen...
Killer Moose?
September 25, 2008 - 22:21 ET by CobraMan"anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks."
Just what could a moose DO to a black or Jew, especially after that moose has been shot and skinned?
On a more serious note, you would think that both blacks and Jews would APPRECIATE that some people know how to use guns. After all, it was guns and the people who used them who saved both the blacks and the Jews in North Africa and Europe during WWII.
Obama: My job is above my pay grade